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Title: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: reptar_bar on June 08, 2017, 09:22:59 PM
Strange how some dudes can put so much work into skating, know the right people in the industry, but still don't have it made like some other dudes who maybe film a park clip once a month.


Hardest:
Jack Olson - dudes been getting hammers with a good style forever now, eternal Real am.
Micky  Papa - I'm personally not a fan, but the dude is on next level shit and gets mad hate from his own country which must suck.
Forrest Edwards - I know he's on Hook-Ups now but come on, dude deserves a solid sponsor with a pro board
David Reyes - Forever AM
Yonnie Cruz - Cant get a board on Chocolate because they are too busy paying the Legacy team.
Trevor/Trent McClung - Trevor will always be outshined by Trent it seems. Somehow Taylor is pro and Trent isn't.
Scott Decenzo - Always outshined by Ryan, also forever AM curse it seems.


Easiest:
TK - don't get me wrong, dude has had a hard upbringing and what not but its crazy how he's still pro by lip sliding the 6 stair skatepark rails.
CK1 - gonna get hate for this one, but the dude is pretty much invisible and still gets so much hype as if he never disappeared.
Jeron Wilson - I know he's an OG, but damn.
Chris Roberts - Nine club is alright. but how he still has a board for Chocolate is pretty crazy.
Justin Eldridge - Maybe he's been hurt a while but i honestly don't know. This guy is pretty inactive in the skate world it seems.

Im def forgetting alot. these just came to mind quickly.
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on June 08, 2017, 10:42:33 PM
Strange how some dudes can put so much work into skating, know the right people in the industry, but still don't have it made like some other dudes who maybe film a park clip once a month.


Hardest:

Forrest Edwards - I know he's on Hook-Ups now but come on, dude deserves a solid sponsor with a pro board


Im def forgetting alot. these just came to mind quickly.

Yes, now I'm waiting for this guy to get a shoe sponsor, Emerica? Straye? Supra? State? Anyone?
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: Francis Xavier on June 08, 2017, 10:54:14 PM
Any pro that has a  "real" job  vs all the pros that wake up and do whatever. There used to be starving ams,but a lot of them get taken care of more than some pros with who they ride for.
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: iKobrakai on June 08, 2017, 11:30:25 PM
Easiest:

Mikey Taylor: I don't care about DC and Etnies, but what that kid did on Alien is beyond me (SEEK, I know, but come on). Burnout like Hernandez, except he got payed.

Hardest: Heath Kirchart: I'm pretty sure that he made less money than Taylor.



Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: miff on June 09, 2017, 12:30:01 AM
Mentioning Corey Kennedy is crazy. He had that Loud pack clip not 2-3 months ago...
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: Monty Burns on June 09, 2017, 01:47:19 AM
Back in the early days. Before some of you were even skated there was a skater called Job. Dude had a hard time cause some higher ups in the business gave him a really hard time. Dont remember why but they just did.  Not sure what happend to him
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: Daniel on June 09, 2017, 01:51:29 AM
Gino and PJ have it easy.
Pops seems to have it hard.
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: iKobrakai on June 09, 2017, 02:17:22 AM
Back in the early days. Before some of you were even skated there was a skater called Job. Dude had a hard time cause some higher ups in the business gave him a really hard time. Dont remember why but they just did.?  Not sure what happend to him

They took his Job!
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: lampshade on June 09, 2017, 03:23:54 AM
Gino and PJ have it easy.
Pops seems to have it hard.

Gino- "It's so easy." 

It seems like a lot of this shit has to do with who you hang with, who your sponsors are, and if your are deemed, "Cool" within the industry. 

I don't agree at all w/ CK1.  Probably one of the best on the planet.  Jeron and Gino are OG unfuckable with.  Jeron has a lot going on behind the scenes as well.  I know Eldridge had some nagging injuries.  That dude was supposed to be, "The next Koston."  He was so sick coming up. 
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: Monty Burns on June 09, 2017, 04:08:13 AM
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Back in the early days. Before some of you were even skated there was a skater called Job. Dude had a hard time cause some higher ups in the business gave him a really hard time. Dont remember why but they just did.?  Not sure what happend to him
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They took his Job!

Comic Rimshot! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CdVTCDdEwI#)
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: ungzilla on June 09, 2017, 04:36:14 AM
Janoski has it the easiest, that man is chillin

Bachinsky maybe has it the toughest, I'm imagining him in a cave foraging for squirrels and decks and whatnot
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: shit_for_brains on June 09, 2017, 05:49:00 AM
Justin Eldridge's amazing talent was wasted by his sponsors taking years and years to make videos. He was putting out quality shit for eS but they didn't promote any of their team at all. Ty Evans and Rick/Mike took how long to make Pretty Sweet? Then they didn't even use Eldridge's footage of which he had enough for a full part. They pissed him (and others) away. His injury didn't come until later.
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: uncle ducky do on June 09, 2017, 06:25:02 AM
Seems like Blondey McCoy has been handed a top tier skating career and I've only ever seen him do wallies and impossibles without the style of the dudes who made them cool again in the first place.    Also heard he comes from an extremely wealthy family, not there's anything wrong with that alone.
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: behavioralguide on June 09, 2017, 06:55:26 AM
^not wanting to direct the thread to 'whos family is rich' but, isnt CK1 well off?

Thats what I always thougt and I vaguley remember a quote along the lines of 'I dont HAVE to skate for money' which kinda made me think about going for nike as your sponsor
if the argument of securing your and your families future is not as urgent.

like, moneywise he could have stayed with lakai and supported them?

w/e

(this is a very superficial train of though ik but it occured to me)
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: dirtyweemidden on June 09, 2017, 07:44:19 AM
Braydon seems to have had it pretty rough, possibly through his own bad choices
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: JB on June 09, 2017, 08:37:28 AM
Fuckin Eric fuckin Fletcher fuckin has it the fucking hardest for fuckin sure
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: Makaveli on June 09, 2017, 08:42:09 AM
Braydon seems to have had it pretty rough, possibly through his own bad choices


Dude is full of himself. I don't know why. But he is.
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: reptar_bar on June 09, 2017, 08:50:11 AM
Justin Eldridge's amazing talent was wasted by his sponsors taking years and years to make videos. He was putting out quality shit for eS but they didn't promote any of their team at all. Ty Evans and Rick/Mike took how long to make Pretty Sweet? Then they didn't even use Eldridge's footage of which he had enough for a full part. They pissed him (and others) away. His injury didn't come until later.

good explanation. maybe he's still getting that cheque because they (crailtap) know they kinda blew it on his pro skating career. also I'm not saying cory kennedy isn't one of the best new age skaters alive, but in comparison to dudes of his caliber (Ishod, Shane, etc.), they are still going as hard as ever and he seems like he just parties and films when he needs to. i know he had a little bit of footage come out earlier this year but looking at how much he comes out with on average its pretty crazy
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: Gnarfunkell on June 09, 2017, 08:51:44 AM
Easiest:

Mikey Taylor: I don't care about DC and Etnies, but what that kid did on Alien is beyond me (SEEK, I know, but come on). Burnout like Hernandez, except he got payed.




He had a long, great part in Mindfield. Just saying...
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: shit_for_brains on June 09, 2017, 08:57:45 AM
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Justin Eldridge's amazing talent was wasted by his sponsors taking years and years to make videos. He was putting out quality shit for eS but they didn't promote any of their team at all. Ty Evans and Rick/Mike took how long to make Pretty Sweet? Then they didn't even use Eldridge's footage of which he had enough for a full part. They pissed him (and others) away. His injury didn't come until later.
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good explanation. maybe he's still getting that cheque because they (crailtap) know they kinda blew it on his pro skating career. also I'm not saying cory kennedy isn't one of the best new age skaters alive, but in comparison to dudes of his caliber (Ishod, Shane, etc.), they are still going as hard as ever and he seems like he just parties and films when he needs to. i know he had a little bit of footage come out earlier this year but looking at how much he comes out with on average its pretty crazy

I am also disappointed in CKs output. He's fucking amazing. AMAZING. He's a rare special talent and he seems to have trekked off into the forest to find himself or whatever, and we don't get to see his rare and special talent anymore so it might as well not exist at all.
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: dirty ol man on June 09, 2017, 09:03:06 AM
easiest, blonde. has a marketable mug/image, not bringing anything terribly inspiring from a skill level.
hardest, bachinsky. has an unmarketable mug -- and rips 10x's harder than blonde.
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: uncle ducky do on June 09, 2017, 09:23:54 AM
I honestly downplayed the career blondey mccoy has been handed.  He didn't just get top tier skater, he got the package deal usually reserved for aging legends like the gonz;  socialite, model, artist, skater.
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: Casey Jones on June 09, 2017, 11:07:31 AM
easiest: PJ Ladd. 3 clips in past 10 years. 0 photos. 0 sequences. maybe 1 demo?
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: Tracer on June 09, 2017, 11:19:31 AM
Easiest- Californians
Toughest- Everyone else

Basing this on park and spot density, weather, and the industry being 90% in Cali
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: Zimmer on June 09, 2017, 01:52:29 PM
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Gino and PJ have it easy.
Pops seems to have it hard.
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Gino- "It's so easy." 

It seems like a lot of this shit has to do with who you hang with, who your sponsors are, and if your are deemed, "Cool" within the industry. 

I don't agree at all w/ CK1.  Probably one of the best on the planet.  Jeron and Gino are OG unfuckable with.  Jeron has a lot going on behind the scenes as well.  I know Eldridge had some nagging injuries.  That dude was supposed to be, "The next Koston."  He was so sick coming up. 

This. Politics man, it's all politics!
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: MintySandwhich on June 09, 2017, 03:50:14 PM
Daniel Castillo
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: Esquivel on June 09, 2017, 04:15:51 PM
The one who has it the hardest is poor lil Schmatty
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: SodaJerk on June 09, 2017, 04:21:23 PM
As has been mentioned, Bachinski. Don't give a fuck if you like him or not he deserves better.
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: ManMelt on June 09, 2017, 04:42:38 PM
Strange how some dudes can put so much work into skating, know the right people in the industry, but still don't have it made like some other dudes who maybe film a park clip once a month.


Hardest:
Jack Olson - dudes been getting hammers with a good style forever now, eternal Real am.
Micky  Papa - I'm personally not a fan, but the dude is on next level shit and gets mad hate from his own country which must suck.
Forrest Edwards - I know he's on Hook-Ups now but come on, dude deserves a solid sponsor with a pro board
David Reyes - Forever AM
Yonnie Cruz - Cant get a board on Chocolate because they are too busy paying the Legacy team.
Trevor/Trent McClung - Trevor will always be outshined by Trent it seems. Somehow Taylor is pro and Trent isn't.
Scott Decenzo - Always outshined by Ryan, also forever AM curse it seems.


Easiest:
TK - don't get me wrong, dude has had a hard upbringing and what not but its crazy how he's still pro by lip sliding the 6 stair skatepark rails.
CK1 - gonna get hate for this one, but the dude is pretty much invisible and still gets so much hype as if he never disappeared.
Jeron Wilson - I know he's an OG, but damn.
Chris Roberts - Nine club is alright. but how he still has a board for Chocolate is pretty crazy.
Justin Eldridge - Maybe he's been hurt a while but i honestly don't know. This guy is pretty inactive in the skate world it seems.

Im def forgetting alot. these just came to mind quickly.
Definitely agree about TK. You couldn't have put it better, dude has made a career out of basic tricks on tiny rails.
CK1 is hands down one of the most talented dudes on a skateboard. Granted his pile-out schtick is getting old and he doesn't get too much coverage lately, but when he does film, it's top notch. His insane tranny skills came out of nowhere, his loud pack footage was nuts, and the last east coast tour he went on with Johnny Wilson's NYC crew, he absolutely killed it. Switch back tail down that handrail!
Yonnie Cruz does deserve a board and after the new Lakai vid drops he might get one. Crailtap is jam packed with super good ams at the moment.  Manchild, Simon B, and James Capps are all super sick. Plus I'm sure he makes more money skating am for Lakai and Chocolate than a lot of pros do riding for smaller companies.
Jeron needs to gracefully retire. He'll be set for life financially through his Diamond partnership with Nick T. He should just focus on that.
Chris Roberts is the man. I hope Nine Club just gets bigger and bigger and he'll be able to live off that.
Justin Eldridge had a ton of natural talent and seems like a really decent dude, but I think he has to come to terms with his career being over, and move on to the next chapter in life.

Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: blurst_of_times on June 10, 2017, 11:29:34 AM
easiest: PJ Ladd. 3 clips in past 10 years. 0 photos. 0 sequences. maybe 1 demo?

He had one sequence in Thrasher when True came out, doing a fakie inward heel fakie manual fakie tre out at Par-A-Lel, that famous manual spot in Barcelona.
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: planman on June 10, 2017, 11:50:18 AM
Massimo Cavedoni - dudes been getting hammers with a good style forever now, eternal Real am.
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: expired on June 10, 2017, 02:04:24 PM
easiest: sean pablo, very small bag of tricks but has colour ways on cons and is pro, the Fa/supreme connection has done him well
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: RoaryMcTwang on June 10, 2017, 07:16:26 PM
Overall easiest probably Daniel Castillo. Don't think CK1 belongs here, he skates a ton and puts out stuff even if its not the stuff the masses hope to see from him.

Hardest I have to go with the undeservedly unpopular Jordan Hoffart.  Has consistenly delivered some of the craziest bangers ever done for well over a decade plus but always had shitty sponsors and was usually either ignored or hated on.
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: Dr-Feelgood on June 11, 2017, 10:55:46 AM
Bams gotta be on the easiest list, any company would want to have his name a part of the brand just cause he sells product....or maybe sold, i guess things are different now but back in the day, he could probably release a 20 second part of him ollieing gutters and people would still be buying anything his connected to.
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: dirtyweemidden on June 11, 2017, 11:22:56 AM
Overall easiest probably Daniel Castillo. Don't think CK1 belongs here, he skates a ton and puts out stuff even if its not the stuff the masses hope to see from him.

Hardest I have to go with the undeservedly unpopular Jordan Hoffart.  Has consistenly delivered some of the craziest bangers ever done for well over a decade plus but always had shitty sponsors and was usually either ignored or hated on.

i have never understood the Hoffart hate, the dude absolutely kills it
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: Noble Experiment on June 11, 2017, 11:40:25 AM
Jordan Hoffart, Dave Bachinsky, Cody Mac, and Ryan Descenzo should all just say "fuck it" and start a board company together. They all kill it and the industry obviously doesn't want to and is probably never going to shine the proper spotlight on those guys, so they might as well just start up their own shit.... Ah who am I kidding, it'd probably go out of business in less than a year  :(
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: uncle ducky do on June 11, 2017, 12:26:05 PM
Jordan Hoffart, Dave Bachinsky, Cody Mac, and Ryan Descenzo should all just say "fuck it" and start a board company together. They all kill it and the industry obviously doesn't want to and is probably never going to shine the proper spotlight on those guys, so they might as well just start up their own shit.... Ah who am I kidding, it'd probably go out of business in less than a year  :(

With the right name and good art direction that would instantly be my favorite board company.
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: Pete on June 11, 2017, 12:36:18 PM
Easiest- anyone verbally sucking industry dick/ kids with "cool" pants
 Hardest- kids who don't fuck with the skateboard industry but deserve to be pro/ kids without cool pants
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Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: franquietits on June 11, 2017, 05:58:14 PM
Easiest = Not sure if veterans count, but I'll go with Kenny Anderson: Low impact style king -- doesn't have to do much (these days at least).

hardest = Moose: Very talented, I view him as a longer-limbed/gnarlier version of billy marks. Unfortunately, he's on the outs somehow.   
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: reptar_bar on June 11, 2017, 09:28:14 PM
Easiest = Not sure if veterans count, but I'll go with Kenny Anderson: Low impact style king -- doesn't have to do much (these days at least).

hardest = Moose: Very talented, I view him as a longer-limbed/gnarlier version of billy marks. Unfortunately, he's on the outs somehow.   

totally forgot about moose. good call.

someone mentioned Decenzo as well, but I'm willing to bet he's the highest paid skater on darkstar and prob up there for globe as well. dude also gets that red bull money.
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: louie the taurus on June 12, 2017, 05:48:55 AM
How is Yoshi Tanenbaum still not pro? Not even on Stereo?
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: franquietits on June 12, 2017, 06:11:24 AM
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Easiest = Not sure if veterans count, but I'll go with Kenny Anderson: Low impact style king -- doesn't have to do much (these days at least).

hardest = Moose: Very talented, I view him as a longer-limbed/gnarlier version of billy marks. Unfortunately, he's on the outs somehow.   
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totally forgot about moose. good call.

someone mentioned Decenzo as well, but I'm willing to bet he's the highest paid skater on darkstar and prob up there for globe as well. dude also gets that red bull money.

Oh yeah, forgot... moose is on mystery. I guess any skater with sponsors that are considered "uncool" & have poor brand status, would probably have it hard. Sometimes, depending on the merit of a skaters skill or style to come through for them, wouldn't matter in that case. Skating is just a microcosm for the struggle of acceptance. I think that's why some career skaters in retrospect say they wish they could have took more money from different brands, instead of honoring the "core" ideology. 
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: Swithflip on June 12, 2017, 09:54:37 AM
Easiest- anyone verbally sucking industry dick/ kids with "cool" pants
 Hardest- kids who don't fuck with the skateboard industry but deserve to be pro/ kids without cool pants
Free max b

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Pants and that ugly banies.
Title: Re: Skaters who have it the hardest / easiest
Post by: kook nukem on June 12, 2017, 02:49:26 PM
Came here to say Massimo has it hardest, but someone beat me to it. Easiest: Nyjah.