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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: VHS ERA on June 28, 2017, 04:29:21 PM
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So I'm only 29 but my body is old (RIP Prodigy). I've had multiple blown ACL & meniscus surgeries etc but tbh what holds me back the most is being super sore and stiff. I stand all day at work and outside of work I'm very active, I'm basically always on my feet. Some days when I try to start warming up and doing tricks I look like one of those fainting goats
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Some sore days I push through to have a I great sesh but sometimes I just gotta admit that my legs just don't have it in them to be popping tricks. I put Walgreens Memory foam inserts into the sneakers I wear to work which marginally minimizes how beat I am at the end of the day and I skate Adidas Suciu ADVs because that Adiprene insert is the best cushion I've felt in the modern era for sore feet and legs.
What do yall do to fight the soreness? I'm trying to not go gently into the dying of the light b. What can I do. Pls don't tell me I have to start doing yoga
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If you
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You could be one of these killer goats
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Pls don't tell me I have to start doing yoga
i'm 27 and i get the same soreness of legs at times, but doing stretches/yoga/however you wanna quantify it does help to a point, targeting the areas that hurt after a time is the best way to do it, you don't have to be doing handstands and inverted body bend shit
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If you
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You could be one of these killer goats
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Yo that goat is GOAT
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Pls don't tell me I have to start doing yoga
i'm 27 and i get the same soreness of legs at times, but doing stretches/yoga/however you wanna quantify it does help to a point, targeting the areas that hurt after a time is the best way to do it, you don't have to be doing handstands and inverted body bend shit
Yea I stretch for a sec before skating but I should probably do more. Idk my thighs and calfs say "be horizontal and do nothing on your days off" but my soul says go skate and I always go.
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Stay hydrated. Im 45 and I'll drink a ton of water the night before, even if I have to piss all night, Ill still drink water. After session I like arnica gel or Tiger Balm. It like hippy Icey-Hot. Epsom salt baths or are great too. You can wet a cloth and microwave it hot then sprinkle the epsom salt if it something you cant soak, like a shoulder. If your cramped up 15 mins in the session, Id just lurk with a cold beer and fire up the grill. Every crew needs a P-Stone.
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I'm 38 and have been skating consistently for 28 years. I SWEAR by epsom salt baths. Some people say it doesn't work for them but I usually take one the night before skating and then within a couple hours after. I'll still feel sore if I push myself too hard, but it really has helped.
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Stretch, do yoga, stay hydrated, maintain a good diet, using a foam roller helps quite a bit too. As far as shoes go, I would try to skate a solid cupsole that actually has a midsole, and then put in a set of slim footprint orthotics.
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do dynamic (moving, rotating, swinging ,etc) stretching before skating, regular stretching after. regular stretches when your muscles are "cold" can increase fatigue and stress.
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I would suggest reading yoga for dummies. Find a few poses that work the area you're sore in and do them throughout the day. Imagine the amount of time you've spent hurting your body skating and put that time into healing.
Lay flat on your back/stomach in grass or sand.
Get a muy Thai book and practice kicking/stretching
Try acupuncture/massage therapy if u can afford it
Run up and down hills
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I'm 29, my right ankle has been fucked for a few years now, clicks every time I walk and after skating it gets super stiff going a few inches up the side of my leg as well. My trick, other than stretching, is epson salt. Warm water and epson salt after and before you skate for 20 minutes has helped me worlds. My girlfriend try's to get me to do yoga but, ehh it just ain't for me.
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Ice bath with epsom and 60 gram protein shake after skating.
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Good looks everyone. I'm gonna get some Tiger Balm (someone already told me to get this so that's 2 for tiger balm), stretch better and maybe the foam roller. I'm seeing that some people roll on a tennis or softball too. Epsom salt sounds good but I've always been grossed out by the idea of taking a bath in the bathtub in my old ass apartment lol.
Working a double tomorrow and the goal is for my legs to not be fucked when I go skate Saturday
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the freedom of a day off is usually enough to get the legs going after working 6 days in a row if not I like to get high and draw instead. usually I stretch days where I don't skate and skate without stretching for some reason.
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If you
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You could be one of these killer goats
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This is great.
See good job man. Funny shit.
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Foam roller
Ibuprofen
Stretching
Emu topical cream
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. Epsom salt sounds good but I've always been grossed out by the idea of taking a bath in the bathtub in my old ass apartment lol.
Try to just soak a rag or towel in hot as fuck water and pour the salts in that, then wrap whatever is sore. I aint one to sit in a bath either. SHit, I wont even swim in the pool at my apartment complex cause I see them bratty ass kids in there, and I know they be pissing in there!
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. Epsom salt sounds good but I've always been grossed out by the idea of taking a bath in the bathtub in my old ass apartment lol.
Try to just soak a rag or towel in hot as fuck water and pour the salts in that, then wrap whatever is sore. I aint one to sit in a bath either. SHit, I wont even swim in the pool at my apartment complex cause I see them bratty ass kids in there, and I know they be pissing in there!
Exactly lol. Ima try this though.
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I get the best results from ice packs on my knees after skating. Both knees for 20 min then take a warm shower, then ice again for another 20 min. Occasionally an Epsom bath. Foam roller every day. And I only wear skate shoes when I'm skating, skate shoes all day kill my feet
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I'm 38 and have been skating consistently for 28 years. I SWEAR by epsom salt baths. Some people say it doesn't work for them but I usually take one the night before skating and then within a couple hours after. I'll still feel sore if I push myself too hard, but it really has helped.
In my 40s, been skating 3/4 of my life. I have boiling fucking hot Radox baths most days, and my personal best friend is Voltaren 50mg.
Otherwise I am fucked.
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I get the best results from ice packs on my knees after skating. Both knees for 20 min then take a warm shower, then ice again for another 20 min. Occasionally an Epsom bath. Foam roller every day. And I only wear skate shoes when I'm skating, skate shoes all day kill my feet
This. Also try to drink plenty of water as already said, and eat lots of bananas.
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I work on my feet 40 hours a week so my legs feel like they're too full of blood most of the time, I've been trying compression socks lately.
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I'm 33 and i can't take more than 2 sessions of 2hours of skating a week, more than that and my tendons feel stretched and about to break. Riding a bike (about 150km/week) helps a lot, i should probably do more stretching on off days.
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Proper warm-up and stretching, proper after sesh stretching and bikram yoga on days off. drink enough water prior, during and after.
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Stretch, do yoga, stay hydrated, maintain a good diet, using a foam roller helps quite a bit too. As far as shoes go, I would try to skate a solid cupsole that actually has a midsole, and then put in a set of slim footprint orthotics.
This.
Don't eat shit. Eat real food. And don't eat stuff that doesn't work for you. Be honest to yourself with the diet. Organic food might sound trendy but it's real food versus microwave shit. Food is your fuel and more. If your fuel is shit, that's how you operate. It's very simple but most people hate the fact that they need to do a major change. But if you don't change shit, you'll stay the same. Once again very simple.
Stretch/do yoga everyday. Morning and evening. Make time for it. Don't fall into that "I don't have the time" bullshit. You stare your phone/computer multiple hours a day but you don't have time for yourself? Buuuuullshit.
Most of us just need to work hard to be able to skate when older, accept it.
Plus if you do all about you average energy levels get higher and you'll enjoy your whole life a lot more.
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I'm pushing 36 trillion years old but the more I skate the less sore I am when I skate, and the easier it is to warm up... Some kind of positive feedback loop business. Once you stop making the very specific movements of skating as frequently, your body isn't going to want to do them as easily. In my not-at-all-scientific-opinion, anyways.
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Great thread.
Foam rolling can be great if done correctly but from my experience be weary. A lot of people target the wrong muscle groups which can end up doing more damage than good.
I'd suggest light dynamic stretching before and after skating. It also helps to start taking a natural anti-inflammatory regularly. I recommend either arnica or Terry Naturally's Cuarmin. You could also take any type of tumeric powder that has black pepper in it (probably the cheapest option). Make it a point to get a healthy snack after skating for a few hours. You have about a 30 minute window to get some sustenance in your system. This helps with recovery more than you can imagine.
At all costs try not to drink alcohol after a hard session. Alcohol is t-e-r-r-i-b-l-e for recovery. Stay hydrated.
Above all. Core and upper body aids a lot in your overall strength. Not saying you need to be lifting like some crossfit goon but consider adding some core/upper body exercises to your daily routine. Just use light weights at a higher repetition and add a dash of planks and you'll be golden. This mixed with with stretching takes only about 30 minutes of my nightly wind down.
Try to eat as clean as possible and get solid rest. I make it a point to be in bed by 10PM regularly which helps me get at least 8 hours of sleep a night. Really you don't gain anything by watching netflix til' 1AM nightly.
Happy shredding, pals!
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Everyone has some great points. I'll second all who said rolling (I consulted with a cert. trainer to make sure I wouldn't worsen it all), the tumeric idea is great (find a golden milk recipe and make it a nighttime ritual), dynamic stretching, bodyweight workouts, hydration and sleep... I also do the core 4 stretches in the mornings (stretch to win institute). Seems like a lot but I have found you can cut on some bullshit distractions and work on a better self.
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iboprufen gel is great if you have muscle ache
a foam roller ball is good too for the morning/sesh/night
also lying flat down on your back is better for taking breaks than sitting down with your back arched
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28 years old dentist over here; 18 years pushing
I try to stretch as much as I can; even when Im not skating
Gym used to help me a lot, weight training specifically; but since started working I rather spend my free time with my girl or my board. That definately changed the game; I get tired easily now.
I push, stretch, push, stretch and then skate for 1.5-2 hours max; I try to land as much as I can on that time; land or bail.
I use the ishod Dunks insoles; the best in the game (to me) and you can put them on any pair of shoes. Right now Im using the supra avex with those insoles inside; super-duper protected feet.
I think there?s no correct formula; I have some older friends that still skate as hard as kids, others are almost cripple. Try to be as healthy as you can, keep fit and hope the best.
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potassium, water, knowing what things you put into your body do what for you.
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I'm a lil bit of a gym rat too. I lift and eat pretty well most of the time so upper body is in shape. My life is pretty much stand at work, gym, skate, walk around everywhere cuz I'm in NYC. End of the day some days I wanna collapse after getting up my apartment stairs.
I do be skipping leg day though. because my legs already hurt to begin with. I know that's backwards.
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A muscle roller
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28 years old dentist over here; 18 years pushing
I try to stretch as much as I can; even when Im not skating
Gym used to help me a lot, weight training specifically; but since started working I rather spend my free time with my girl or my board. That definately changed the game; I get tired easily now.
I push, stretch, push, stretch and then skate for 1.5-2 hours max; I try to land as much as I can on that time; land or bail.
I use the ishod Dunks insoles; the best in the game (to me) and you can put them on any pair of shoes. Right now Im using the supra avex with those insoles inside; super-duper protected feet.
I think there?s no correct formula; I have some older friends that still skate as hard as kids, others are almost cripple. Try to be as healthy as you can, keep fit and hope the best.
You sayin I can buy Ishod Insoles on their own or I gotta buy Ishod Dunk shoes?
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There is some berries that Brazilians swear by.
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Acai ^
Everything mentioned already is great. Lot's of water, before during and after the sesh. Maybe just push around for a while to warm up.
If you're in a more liberal state, CBD topical cream after skating is great for knees/ankles.
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I have to crack both ankles and pop my knees in place in order to skate. 32 years old and 20 years of skating.
Omega 3s in your diet help prevent join pain and stiffness and turmeric as stated is good for inflammation,I'll have it as a tea,kind of the same way Jim Thiebaud does. Water is all I drink skating,and for the most part in general.
Before skating I'll do some stretches, but I push around first to warm up. One thing for sure that helps is this deep tissue oinment that has arnica and other stuff that works wonders from herbdoc.com. If I've been skating all day I rub that shit on once I'm home and chill. I used to soak my feet in salts til' I moved somewhere with a hot tub.
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28 years old dentist over here; 18 years pushing
I try to stretch as much as I can; even when Im not skating
Gym used to help me a lot, weight training specifically; but since started working I rather spend my free time with my girl or my board. That definately changed the game; I get tired easily now.
I push, stretch, push, stretch and then skate for 1.5-2 hours max; I try to land as much as I can on that time; land or bail.
I use the ishod Dunks insoles; the best in the game (to me) and you can put them on any pair of shoes. Right now Im using the supra avex with those insoles inside; super-duper protected feet.
I think there?s no correct formula; I have some older friends that still skate as hard as kids, others are almost cripple. Try to be as healthy as you can, keep fit and hope the best.
You sayin I can buy Ishod Insoles on their own or I gotta buy Ishod Dunk shoes?
I would be ideal to buy them apart; but in my case I discovered the insoles when I bought the dunks :P
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34 years old, 21 on the board, and the last year I've been skating for about 2 hours almost every morning (5-6 times a week).
Lots of good stuff here. I need to try topical stuff and anti inflammatories. Also, I am gonna add a +1 on the good clean nutrition and daily core exercises, and I do occasional yoga and try to get as much sleep as I can. I also got some of those footprint insoles and I highly, highly recommend them. I kept re-aggravating a heel bruise, and now it has healed on its own without having to take a break to heal. I am almost never too sore to skate anymore, so Im just gonna share my routine.
- When I get to the spot, and before I step on my skateboard I do this dynamic stretching routine:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BSSf8yZjclk/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BSSf8yZjclk/)
- Push around for about 5 minutes, do about 10 ollies and 10 nollies on flat, mostly try to take it as slow and small as possible warming up.
- Drink so much goddamn water (40-60 oz)
- As soon as possible after skating (usually right when I get home, but its better to do it sooner), I do this foam roller routine:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BSXaxq0DFRZ/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BSXaxq0DFRZ/)
- Muscle roll out my quads and anywhere I feel tired
Hope this helps!
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Great thread.
Foam rolling can be great if done correctly but from my experience be weary. A lot of people target the wrong muscle groups which can end up doing more damage than good.
I'd suggest light dynamic stretching before and after skating. It also helps to start taking a natural anti-inflammatory regularly. I recommend either arnica or Terry Naturally's Cuarmin. You could also take any type of tumeric powder that has black pepper in it (probably the cheapest option). Make it a point to get a healthy snack after skating for a few hours. You have about a 30 minute window to get some sustenance in your system. This helps with recovery more than you can imagine.
At all costs try not to drink alcohol after a hard session. Alcohol is t-e-r-r-i-b-l-e for recovery. Stay hydrated.
Above all. Core and upper body aids a lot in your overall strength. Not saying you need to be lifting like some crossfit goon but consider adding some core/upper body exercises to your daily routine. Just use light weights at a higher repetition and add a dash of planks and you'll be golden. This mixed with with stretching takes only about 30 minutes of my nightly wind down.
Try to eat as clean as possible and get solid rest. I make it a point to be in bed by 10PM regularly which helps me get at least 8 hours of sleep a night. Really you don't gain anything by watching netflix til' 1AM nightly.
Happy shredding, pals!
im out
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34 years old, 21 on the board, and the last year I've been skating for about 2 hours almost every morning (5-6 times a week).
Lots of good stuff here. I need to try topical stuff and anti inflammatories. Also, I am gonna add a +1 on the good clean nutrition and daily core exercises, and I do occasional yoga and try to get as much sleep as I can. I also got some of those footprint insoles and I highly, highly recommend them. I kept re-aggravating a heel bruise, and now it has healed on its own without having to take a break to heal. I am almost never too sore to skate anymore, so Im just gonna share my routine.
- When I get to the spot, and before I step on my skateboard I do this dynamic stretching routine:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BSSf8yZjclk/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BSSf8yZjclk/)
- Push around for about 5 minutes, do about 10 ollies and 10 nollies on flat, mostly try to take it as slow and small as possible warming up.
- Drink so much goddamn water (40-60 oz)
- As soon as possible after skating (usually right when I get home, but its better to do it sooner), I do this foam roller routine:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BSXaxq0DFRZ/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BSXaxq0DFRZ/)
- Muscle roll out my quads and anywhere I feel tired
Hope this helps!
Do this plus, if you have good health insurance, go to a podiatrist and get custom insoles made. They will change your posture, gate, etc. These have helped my knees, lower back, hips, etc.. The downside is unless you have good insurance they could set you back big $$$. Footprints are nice (better than any other skate specific insoles) but they aren't quite supportive enough as far as heel alignment is concerned and over a little time they do get a little packed out/shape changed.
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I have a grip of reusable ice packs. I strap them to my knees and left ankle every night with strips of cloth from an old t-shirt when I come in after I've showered.
also:
-hydrate. water, coconut water, seltzer water (and coffee) is usually all i drink.
-stretch fluently and often
-turmeric supplement. and general diet
-fp insoles. im using the kingfoam orthotic for my somewhat wide flat feet. i can't speak on really high impact, but it seems like they do really well to dampen all of the smaller impacts of just being upright and moving in any way provide constantly. that stuff adds up after a day/week/year/decade/s.
i remember when the ollie was the new fancy trick.
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I'm trying to switch it up on the back half of 2017 by eating better and exercising. I got a deck of cards and each suit represents a different body weight exercise and the number is the rep. Aces and face cards are 10s, jokers are 10 burpees. I don't like gyms or people at gyms so I'm working out like my dad who was in the joint. It's supposed to be done in 15 minutes but I'm not that gnar
I need some real meals that are healthy for lunch anyone have any ideas? Chicken and veggies are my go to for dinner regardless but sandwiches for lunch has got my mom calling me cheeks. They're her cheeks not my dads so I blame her.
Going back to the sore legs kinda. I get pedicures every 6 months of so. My ex took me once and it was legit, been going ever since. Skate feet get nasty and she was getting tired of seeing them. There's also this massage place, island foot spa, near me that's $20/hr that's legit too. I try to do both in the same day. Refreshes my whole shit.
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I've been juicing a lot lately. Turmeric and ginger with some lemons, apples and some greens. Game changer
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that shit really works.
Icepacks
and this:
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cbd oil works wonders
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I do this for a few minutes before and after skating. Not sure it really works but seems to make me feel better
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Jack off before you skate as a warm um, then after as a loosen up.
After if you can't do both.
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Jack off before you skate as a warm um, then after as a loosen up.
After if you can't do both.
Why not during?
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i am 40
i would recommend Pilates instead of yoga...b/c it's based on strengthening one's legs instead of, like, bending your body into a bunch of unnatural positions (yoga is cool too tho)
also run 4 miles every day, go to the gym and do squats and deadlifts
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A muscle roller
Instead of that, get this. Cheap and effective.
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https://www.amazon.com/Yes4All-Blue-X-Firm-AccuPoint-Roller/dp/B00IHQAXCY/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1499020759&sr=8-5&keywords=rumble+roller (https://www.amazon.com/Yes4All-Blue-X-Firm-AccuPoint-Roller/dp/B00IHQAXCY/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1499020759&sr=8-5&keywords=rumble+roller)
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Skate more.
That's all that really does it for me. I don't stretch, and I don't use any gimmicky shit. It's just getting the muscles used to the motions/impacts/etc..
Beer helps too, beer helps in nearly every capacity.
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Skate more.
That's all that really does it for me. I don't stretch, and I don't use any gimmicky shit. It's just getting the muscles used to the motions/impacts/etc..
Beer helps too, beer helps in nearly every capacity.
the right about of beer makes your mind calm and the slams more funny than painful
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I'm 19 and get sore from jumping down stuff and running at a trick really easy, i assume thats different than most of your guys' soreness, the biggest thing that helps is if i warm up skating at a park. Just simple tricks for a half hour to an hour before i go skate a spot, and drinking as much water as I can. Other than that I really havnt found anything to help, but I will get sore for 4 or 5 days after running at a bump to bar or gap or something.
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Skate more.
That's all that really does it for me. I don't stretch, and I don't use any gimmicky shit. It's just getting the muscles used to the motions/impacts/etc..
Beer helps too, beer helps in nearly every capacity.
the right about of beer makes your mind calm and the slams more funny than painful
Like anything after 3.
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Instead of that, get this. Cheap and effective.
https://www.amazon.com/Yes4All-Blue-X-Firm-AccuPoint-Roller/dp/B00IHQAXCY/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1499020759&sr=8-5&keywords=rumble+roller (https://www.amazon.com/Yes4All-Blue-X-Firm-AccuPoint-Roller/dp/B00IHQAXCY/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1499020759&sr=8-5&keywords=rumble+roller)
I agree 100% with this. I have a roller stick and it doesn't feel as effective as a foam roller. Also, the tens machine does wonders for my knees, hips and almost anything that hurts. Just be careful because I gave myself a gnarly cramp. I'm 21 and usually on the go or sleeping and definitely stopping for meals compared to eating 1 or 2 when you can is better.
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Warm/ cool bath soaking, stretching, and braces if you're working on the last of your meat. Whatever you do, don't take opioids to trick yourself into skating as you used to, especially if there's no rehabilitative follow through. I made that mistake, and I made things severely worse.
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What is this?
A muscle roller
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https://www.amazon.com/Yes4All-Blue-X-Firm-AccuPoint-Roller/dp/B00IHQAXCY/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1499020759&sr=8-5&keywords=rumble+roller (https://www.amazon.com/Yes4All-Blue-X-Firm-AccuPoint-Roller/dp/B00IHQAXCY/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1499020759&sr=8-5&keywords=rumble+roller)
Those are for totally different parts of your body and the thing I posted costs $12.
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slash, is that you?
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I don't know what your saying, that's a device for knee tension.
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What is this?
A muscle roller
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https://www.amazon.com/Yes4All-Blue-X-Firm-AccuPoint-Roller/dp/B00IHQAXCY/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1499020759&sr=8-5&keywords=rumble+roller (https://www.amazon.com/Yes4All-Blue-X-Firm-AccuPoint-Roller/dp/B00IHQAXCY/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1499020759&sr=8-5&keywords=rumble+roller)
Those are for totally different parts of your body and the thing I posted costs $12.
I bought one of those and it included a hard, spiked ball to roll under your feet for $8 from aldi. If I use that as pictured in your post to where it can actually do something, my other leg and back spasms out.
The thing I posted I can hit more effectively knots in muscles and connective tissues including my iliotibial band which makes my knee caps pull outward and track crooked resulting in a neverending fountains of pain.
How to Release Your IT Band from Your Quads & Hip Flexors (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY9L1_oUJM4#)
My thing only cost $5 more and does a hell of a lot more.
Also, thanks for posting the TENS unit. I've been meaning to get one.
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Shoutout to this thread man. Yall came through.
My legs still hurt after standing all day at work + skating and nothing will unfuck my knee but I swear I'm feeling a little better. The things I've done that I feel are helping are
-Dynamic stretching before skating (I do it while watching skate videos pre-sesh)
-Stretching and elevating after work and skating. I'm not doing any downward dog or happy baby type shit but I guess some of these stretches qualify as yoga no homo (jk)
-Foam roller (ordered one on amazon for $8, cheaper than a Chinatown massage and is as effective)
Lots of water and eating well too but I was already on that.
Here's some articles I have found useful (that include pictures and gifs if you're too lazy to read)
A Skateboarders Guide to Yoga
http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2016/12/29/a-skateboarders-intro-to-yoga/ (http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2016/12/29/a-skateboarders-intro-to-yoga/)
Post skate stretching
https://www.thedailypush.com/post-skate-stretching (https://www.thedailypush.com/post-skate-stretching)
6 Yoga Poses to Soothe Tired Legs and Feet
https://www.doyouyoga.com/6-yoga-poses-to-soothe-tired-legs-and-feet-11665/ (https://www.doyouyoga.com/6-yoga-poses-to-soothe-tired-legs-and-feet-11665/)
THE DAILY PUSH
ROAD TO RECOVERY
http://theberrics.com/the-daily-push-recovery/ (http://theberrics.com/the-daily-push-recovery/)
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I'm the same age. I can only go 3-4 days of skating then I take 2 days off. I used to be able to go 5-6 easily. My legs are also unfit to be popping tricks (too tired, no juice in them) so on those days I just do tic tacs and work on varials and whatever board feel.
In the past if I wasn't "feelin it" I might've tried to push through. These days I give it a good 10-15 minutes then bail on the session if I feel even slightly off. Not worth the risk. I posted in the "old dudes" thread I saw a big fall off from 28 to 29, like my energy is just not there like it used to be. Still this past week I was skating and felt amazing, out there. It's that some good days...some bad days deal.
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I take my painkillers before the session.
And after.
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Drink a lot of water, sleep well, eat a lot of fruits / vegetables, protein shake after the session, foam roller, tennis ball for foot massage, essential oils, and drink a lot of water again.
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Legs on the wall, I don't really buy into yoga bullish but that shit helps
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If I really want to skate the next day, and am really sore, I'll spend my evening eating bananas for dinner, drink about a gallon of water, and stretch/foam roll.
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Lately I've noticed alcohol and fried foods really hinder recovery by quite a large margin, even veggie samosas and stuff like
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After I skate too much, I cook myself a large flank steak pan fried in salted butter. I eat that put on a pair of wet socks and go to sleep. That usually does the trick.
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If I really want to skate the next day, and am really sore, I'll spend my evening eating bananas for dinner, drink about a gallon of water, and stretch/foam roll.
And then skate in a diaper because your shit is just leaking out of you?
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Jazzercise works wonders for the gams.
Jazzercise - Move your Boogie Body 1982 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tgxvza2yhFw#)
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If I really want to skate the next day, and am really sore, I'll spend my evening eating bananas for dinner, drink about a gallon of water, and stretch/foam roll.
And then skate in a diaper because your shit is just leaking out of you?
I didn't say it was comfortable.
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great info in here
I don't have much to add, and reading over this, I feel like my stretching routine has been completely wrong. Gonna move to some dynamic stretching before my next park session and see how it fares.
I recently pulled my entire right side of my body, like I grabbed a fence and my board flew out from under me and it pulled everything real hard. I have a weird sensation on the ligaments around my bottom rib, like it feels my rib is dislocated or something, so if anyone has any tips for rehabilitating injured ribs (not cracked), I'm interested
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I have a weird sensation on the ligaments around my bottom rib, like it feels my rib is dislocated or something, so if anyone has any tips for rehabilitating injured ribs (not cracked), I'm interested
I only have experience with the upper ribs (cracked left side, ligament thing on right side). Both injuries have been from impacting the ground without being able to brace with my arm. So not really the type that maybe you're experiencing. But here's my rib story anyways mybe it will help you
ok so the ligament thing: annoying, but able to still cruise, but I really couldn't lift my right arm above my head. So... couldn't even really pop the board properly. I've broken my collar bone on this side also, and ever since that injury (about 10 yrs ago) there's been this weird tension in the muscle groups. So the fullness of recovery on this new injury was worrying me and I decided not to push it at all. I basically watched skate videos for like 3 weeks with a frozen bag of peas pressed up against the upper rib area. Then by week 4 and 5 started cruising more often, getting the feel back. Glad I let it heal and didn't cause it more harm because now I don't even think about it. Full movement, no pain. Still got some clavicle muscular tension though but I've skated with that since I was 13 so the sky is blue wats new
So I'd say just let it heal up. Would suck if it lingered with you longer and then stuck around. I could imagine core rotation/ hip-to-shoulder-follow-through might be affected or stiffened
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Does anyone do hamstring strengthening exercises? I know my knees feel much better after I work on them.
Just think about how flimsy your arms would be if your biceps are weak.
http://www.sportsinjuryclinic.net/sport-injuries/thigh-pain/hamstring-strain/strengthening-exercises-hamstrings (http://www.sportsinjuryclinic.net/sport-injuries/thigh-pain/hamstring-strain/strengthening-exercises-hamstrings)
I actually do hamstring curls at the gym on a machine more than anything. At home, I do glute bridges either one foot or weighted to really build strength.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/5pwxki/foam_rollers_and_lacrosse_balls_are_awesome/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/5pwxki/foam_rollers_and_lacrosse_balls_are_awesome/)
I'm the dude linking a reddit post, but the lacrosse ball gifs helped me a lot. The hamstring one and the scapular shit, since I'm a computer-slag.
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Thc topical ointment and protien shakes have done wonders for me as well as my 67 year old grandmother with arthritis. If you can get a hold of it can be a very useful tool
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Jazzercise works wonders for the gams.
Jazzercise - Move your Boogie Body 1982 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tgxvza2yhFw#)
Everyone is looking at me weird on the train while I try these moves.
Fuck em!
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Does anyone do hamstring strengthening exercises? I know my knees feel much better after I work on them.
Just think about how flimsy your arms would be if your biceps are weak.
http://www.sportsinjuryclinic.net/sport-injuries/thigh-pain/hamstring-strain/strengthening-exercises-hamstrings (http://www.sportsinjuryclinic.net/sport-injuries/thigh-pain/hamstring-strain/strengthening-exercises-hamstrings)
I actually do hamstring curls at the gym on a machine more than anything. At home, I do glute bridges either one foot or weighted to really build strength.
No I don't, but I probably should. When I did more yoga strength exercises I discovered how week they were. They would cramp up during very basic exercises. Skating must not strengthen them at all.
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when u jump down stuff now i try to give myself a max number of tries, like 10 at most, and just live with it. skate everyday or as often as possible and when it is truly sore, take the day off and stay off my feet all day
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(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41BiKdLt98L._SX355_.jpg)(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71zaENuydFL._SX355_.jpg)
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I'm 29, my right ankle has been fucked for a few years now, clicks every time I walk and after skating it gets super stiff going a few inches up the side of my leg as well. My trick, other than stretching, is epson salt. Warm water and epson salt after and before you skate for 20 minutes has helped me worlds. My girlfriend try's to get me to do yoga but, ehh it just ain't for me.
I had the clicking too. Have you had an MRI for it? Could be OCD of the Talus.
http://www.houstonmethodist.org/orthopedics/where-does-it-hurt/foot/osteochondritis-dissecans/ (http://www.houstonmethodist.org/orthopedics/where-does-it-hurt/foot/osteochondritis-dissecans/)
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Arnica and agua. Like way more water than you think you need.
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Does anyone do hamstring strengthening exercises? I know my knees feel much better after I work on them.
Just think about how flimsy your arms would be if your biceps are weak.
http://www.sportsinjuryclinic.net/sport-injuries/thigh-pain/hamstring-strain/strengthening-exercises-hamstrings (http://www.sportsinjuryclinic.net/sport-injuries/thigh-pain/hamstring-strain/strengthening-exercises-hamstrings)
I actually do hamstring curls at the gym on a machine more than anything. At home, I do glute bridges either one foot or weighted to really build strength.
No I don't, but I probably should. When I did more yoga strength exercises I discovered how week they were. They would cramp up during very basic exercises. Skating must not strengthen them at all.
The bosu ham curl is a good one....you guys are in the right track w ham curls.....pushing and skating actually lead to my hamstrings to almost atroph because your quad and hips do all the work and your push just becomes efficient.....
I couldn't do a right ham curl without clenching my left side....just like pushing reg foot...
So concentrate on your otherside too so you aren't compensating.....
Ultimately though....if you wanna keep your knees healthier ham curls.....
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Jazzercise works wonders for the gams.
Jazzercise - Move your Boogie Body 1982 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tgxvza2yhFw#)
Fuck em!
Don't confuse "looking at me weird" with "looking at me jealously", my friend.
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Truth....Mcrank on Zumba.....
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I have to crack both ankles and pop my knees in place in order to skate. 32 years old and 20 years of skating
How do you mean crack your ankles, does this loosen them up? I always thought when things crack it is the bubble of air being popped in the joint.
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I've noticed I just have kind of painful knee pain after skating too hard. It's usually just one knee (doesn't matter which one) and it's definitely from the impact of landing on it everytime I ollie. I've been taking days off but still exercising regardless. Going to try glucosamine pills if I can find em at Walgreens or wherever
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Thc topical ointment and protien shakes have done wonders for me as well as my 67 year old grandmother with arthritis. If you can get a hold of it can be a very useful tool
Which topical ointment?
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Arnica and agua. Like way more water than you think you need.
Facts
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Big ol BUMP.
I get really sore on the tops of my thighs, and when i foam roll that area it feels like im doing more harm than good. Anybody have any tips on how to help that soreness? Whatsup with those electric shock things can you overdo it or how do they really work?
If i had to give my own tips it would just be drinking a gallon of water a day, no alcohol, and try to keep skating, if you take a day off of being active it gets worse on the second day.
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Big ol BUMP.
I get really sore on the tops of my thighs, and when i foam roll that area it feels like im doing more harm than good. Anybody have any tips on how to help that soreness? Whatsup with those electric shock things can you overdo it or how do they really work?
If i had to give my own tips it would just be drinking a gallon of water a day, no alcohol, and try to keep skating, if you take a day off of being active it gets worse on the second day.
Sometimes you do need a day of rest. If your muscles are really sore it will always be worse on the second day, but it will be much better on the third. It sounds to me that you are currently pushing yourself too much. Sometimes it can go a long way to take it easy for a few days. You will be stronger in the long term. To get better you need to skate AND rest long enough to recover after. I try to stop skating before I am completely exhausted. I am pretty old though so I have to be careful with the amount of stress I put on my body or inflammation will not let me skate at all.
I guess if you approached skating as a serious sport it would probably be smart to do it in a way that you never got sore in the first place. I think this martial arts guy's philosophy of never being sore is valid for skating as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDR0drfUKqc
I wish I was young again and I didn't have to think about all that shit.
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So I'm only 29 but my body is old (RIP Prodigy). I've had multiple blown ACL & meniscus surgeries etc but tbh what holds me back the most is being super sore and stiff. I stand all day at work and outside of work I'm very active, I'm basically always on my feet. Some days when I try to start warming up and doing tricks I look like one of those fainting goats
(https://media.giphy.com/media/7zF3biR7j50eQ/giphy.gif)
Some sore days I push through to have a I great sesh but sometimes I just gotta admit that my legs just don't have it in them to be popping tricks. I put Walgreens
Memory foam inserts into the sneakers I wear to work which marginally minimizes how beat I am at the end of the day and I skate Adidas Suciu ADVs because that Adiprene
insert is the best cushion I've felt in the modern era for sore feet and legs.
I use a tiger tail, it's like an extreme foamroller. I use it for sure muscles and it might help your problem. My dad has the same problem as he is getting back into skating and doesn't want to go to the park because he is always sore.
What do yall do to fight the soreness? I'm trying to not go gently into the dying of the light b. What can I do. Pls don't tell me I have to start doing yoga
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Strengthening wit squats and deadlifts.
An apparatus known as “The Stick” that you can find on Amazon...life changing.
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Yeah Tiger Tail works for stiffness and soreness. I have used it and if works pretty well. My dad has the same problem, because last time he skated was in 1997, and he never wants to go to the park because he is always sore. When I tell him he should do something like a foam roller, he says "Nah, I ain't doin that hippy bullshit!"
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(http://www.golfintegratedtherapy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/legs-up-wall-stretch.jpg)
I do this for a few minutes before and after skating. Not sure it really works but seems to make me feel better
This seems to really help if you've been on your feet all day. Sometimes I will put my feet up on a recliner so I can bend my knees rather than have them straight.
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^^yea that’s a good one
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So I'm only 29 but my body is old (RIP Prodigy). I've had multiple blown ACL & meniscus surgeries etc but tbh what holds me back the most is being super sore and stiff. I stand all day at work and outside of work I'm very active, I'm basically always on my feet. Some days when I try to start warming up and doing tricks I look like one of those fainting goats
(https://media.giphy.com/media/7zF3biR7j50eQ/giphy.gif)
Some sore days I push through to have a I great sesh but sometimes I just gotta admit that my legs just don't have it in them to be popping tricks. I put Walgreens Memory foam inserts into the sneakers I wear to work which marginally minimizes how beat I am at the end of the day and I skate Adidas Suciu ADVs because that Adiprene insert is the best cushion I've felt in the modern era for sore feet and legs.
What do yall do to fight the soreness? I'm trying to not go gently into the dying of the light b. What can I do. Pls don't tell me I have to start doing yoga
Honestly when I was younger I started out skating a 7.75 and eventually ended up going as low as 7.5, then I didn't skate for a while & I saw that the trend was people skating boards that are wider. So I went with an 8.25 for a while and it blew the shit out of my left knee. Like it was swollen and I constantly had to crack it (I still do at times.) Then I went down to an 8 which was better & now I'm thinking of going back to 7.75 like when I started. Those added fractions of an inch seriously make it much harder on the legs to pop the board up and do everything, in my experience at least. Otherwise I'm not too bad. I think weight lifting helps strengthen the body though.
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The combination of Tiger Balm and Flexiseq has changed my life.
I work all day doing physical labor then skate 3 evenings of the working week.
By the time the weekend comes I used to be in agony.
But now I apply both of them twice a day and it's made such an improvement. Amazing.
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stretch!! trapping and releasing blood helps replenish your muscles with fresh o2. i generally stretch 40min in the morning and 40min at night. also try to stretch if i take a slam real bad.
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stretch!! trapping and releasing blood helps replenish your muscles with fresh o2. i generally stretch 40min in the morning and 40min at night. also try to stretch if i take a slam real bad.
What stretches do you do ?
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wear compression leggings
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'How do you Circa Combat sore legs' is honestly how I read the title of this thread at first. I'm suspecting a correlation.
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Drugs, they're the only thing allowing me to skate for any length of time.
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stretch!! trapping and releasing blood helps replenish your muscles with fresh o2. i generally stretch 40min in the morning and 40min at night. also try to stretch if i take a slam real bad.
a lot of the stuff i do focuses on hips and lower back. i generally start w/ a standing half moon to wake up and loosen my lower back and then work my way into some variation of plow pose, pidgeon pose, warrior etc. all of these stretches are pretty well documented by insufferable granola types on their awful wellness blogs- i can do a more in depth post if people want but i’m trying to be wary of being a yoga jagoff
What stretches do you do ?
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stretch!! trapping and releasing blood helps replenish your muscles with fresh o2. i generally stretch 40min in the morning and 40min at night. also try to stretch if i take a slam real bad.
a lot of the stuff i do focuses on hips and lower back. i generally start w/ a standing half moon to wake up and loosen my lower back and then work my way into some variation of plow pose, pidgeon pose, warrior etc. all of these stretches are pretty well documented by insufferable granola types on their awful wellness blogs- i can do a more in depth post if people want but i’m trying to be wary of being a yoga jagoff
What stretches do you do ?
Very interesting man thank you.
I've been meaning to try yoga but I'm too lazy.
I work a tough day and start before the crack of dawn so doing it before work would be tough.
Do those stretches help with legs too ?
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stretch!! trapping and releasing blood helps replenish your muscles with fresh o2. i generally stretch 40min in the morning and 40min at night. also try to stretch if i take a slam real bad.
a lot of the stuff i do focuses on hips and lower back. i generally start w/ a standing half moon to wake up and loosen my lower back and then work my way into some variation of plow pose, pidgeon pose, warrior etc. all of these stretches are pretty well documented by insufferable granola types on their awful wellness blogs- i can do a more in depth post if people want but i’m trying to be wary of being a yoga jagoff
What stretches do you do ?
Very interesting man thank you.
I've been meaning to try yoga but I'm too lazy.
I work a tough day and start before the crack of dawn so doing it before work would be tough.
Do those stretches help with legs too ?
absolutely. you’ll feel a lot in your hips, hamstrings/back of ur legs and ur side. a good standing bow pose helps w/ the quads too.
i work a manual labor job as well so i know exactly where you’re coming from. i try to sneak in a forward fold stretch as often as i can throughout the day (even in line at the hot bar for lunch etc) but it’s not always easy to make the time. a little bit is better than nothing.
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stretch!! trapping and releasing blood helps replenish your muscles with fresh o2. i generally stretch 40min in the morning and 40min at night. also try to stretch if i take a slam real bad.
That‘s a lot of stretching! I usually only stretch a bit after like 15 minutes of light skating. Usually just to loosen up my hips and my legs muscles. Sometimes I stretch or do yoga at night but only like one or two nights per week. I do more yoga periodically when I feel pain or I am really sore somewhere. It is so good for me, but god do I hate doing it!
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stretch!! trapping and releasing blood helps replenish your muscles with fresh o2. i generally stretch 40min in the morning and 40min at night. also try to stretch if i take a slam real bad.
That‘s a lot of stretching! I usually only stretch a bit after like 15 minutes of light skating. Usually just to loosen up my hips and my legs muscles. Sometimes I stretch or do yoga at night but only like one or two nights per week. I do more yoga periodically when I feel pain or I am really sore somewhere. It is so good for me, but god do I hate doing it!
i like it a lot and since covid i cant get to the place i usually practice- i’m not advocating everyone stretch that much per day to be clear, i’m just a huge advocate for it
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Stretching at this start and again after a few hours, stay hydrated, and skating more often for shorter periods. Like I'll go for two proper skates a week, 4-6 hours. If that's all i do, my legs are pretty janky for a day or two after each time, but if i go for a little skate two or three times a week for an hour on the days in between the proper skates, my recovery time is faster, warming up takes less time, and my pop, stamina and basics all maintain or improve in consistency.
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Look into the stuff runners/sprinters do - hydration, electrolyte replacement, protein intake during exercise, active stretching, eating clean, self massage, and pre/post workout routines. There's also nothing wrong with getting some type of extracarricular exercise program into your life - gym (weights but stay mellow He-Man), biking, running, yoga, hiking, whatever. Just do something in addition to skating that is physical and fun. I believe some of the fatigue we experience is mental and having another outlet is a good way to stay active and get a mental break from skating.
How maytimes do you hear people say they are gassed but after getting active say they feel great? This is your lazy mind tricking you into resting because it is tired not your body actually being tired. Of course, you could actually be on the verge of an inury (or be injured) so you have to know yourself and be able to tell the difference between lazy, tired, and injured. Lazy deserves a kick in the ass. Tired deserves rest and fuel. Injured deserves rest and rehabilitation. You'll only learn the difference by going over the line and burning yourself.
As far as topicals go, I like Blue Emu and DMSO together. No smell and it absorbs quickly. Tiger balm is great too but is a bit stank and leaves a greasy film so I use it at night before bed.
This is just one old dude's take after being involved in some fairly heavy distance running along with 35 years of skating.
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Stretching at this start and again after a few hours, stay hydrated, and skating more often for shorter periods. Like I'll go for two proper skates a week, 4-6 hours. If that's all i do, my legs are pretty janky for a day or two after each time, but if i go for a little skate two or three times a week for an hour on the days in between the proper skates, my recovery time is faster, warming up takes less time, and my pop, stamina and basics all maintain or improve in consistency.
Consistency builds that stamina! Unfortunately where I'm at, we're about to be buried in snow and I'm not the snowboarding type. Weekend missions to dry spots will have to suffice.
Also damn, there is such excellent advice in this thread, shalom everyone. I feel like a solid diet, hydration, and post session stretches are essential for me. Eating good and drinking a TON as close to the end of the sesh is important to mitigate the soreness.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3wnhOpht_0
not sure if anyone fucks with Yoga with Adriene, but she's the absolute best. I do "yoga joy" pretty often starting this COVID season in April, and continued thruout the summer. definitely made my skating better, longer, and less sore.
I know you said first thing don't tell me yoga, but first thing I thought of when I saw the thread title was yoga. Stretch !
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I spend 40+ hours a week making sweet passionate love to a forklift. My knees feel like absolute shit and I have a bit of a drop foot from having to put pressure on a deadlift all day. Any of y’all have recommendations to ease that dead calf feeling?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3wnhOpht_0
not sure if anyone fucks with Yoga with Adriene, but she's the absolute best. I do "yoga joy" pretty often starting this COVID season in April, and continued thruout the summer. definitely made my skating better, longer, and less sore.
I know you said first thing don't tell me yoga, but first thing I thought of when I saw the thread title was yoga. Stretch !
it’s all yoga with tim on this side, fool
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Stay hydrated. Im 45 and I'll drink a ton of water the night before, even if I have to piss all night, Ill still drink water. After session I like arnica gel or Tiger Balm. It like hippy Icey-Hot. Epsom salt baths or are great too. You can wet a cloth and microwave it hot then sprinkle the epsom salt if it something you cant soak, like a shoulder. If your cramped up 15 mins in the session, Id just lurk with a cold beer and fire up the grill. Every crew needs a P-Stone.
Respect
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I’m almost 4 years older and wiser than when I made this thread so I can kinda answer it myself now. Lots came from suggestions in here so shoutout everybody.
The most important things to me have definitely been:
-foam roll pre sesh
-dynamic stretch pre sesh
-regular static stretch after sesh if you have dreams of skating again the next couple days
-footprint gamechanger insoles. they are in short supply in my size so if yall know any other comparable insoles lmk.
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I've been doing heat pad on knees and ankles after skating lately.
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Do yoga and get a cats tail
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I’m 33 and I’ve taken long periods of not skating or barely skating because of injuries, but I’m back now (again) and actually still learning new tricks.
My problem started when I broke a few bones and didn’t go to physical therapy afterwards. I had lingering pain but I figured I would get back on the board when it all cleared up.
WRONG! It won’t clear up on its own. Especially if you’re no longer a little kid. All the inactivity just gave me other problems, like a bad back.
I had insurance, so I was able to go see a physical therapist and they got me started on a gym routine, resistance band workouts, foam roller, etc. And also working out knots with a lacrosse ball.
If you can’t see a PT you should at least start watching YouTube videos, reading forums, etc. Follow physical therapists on Instagram, etc. Idk if anyone else has posted the link, but there’s a physical therapist who specializes in skateboarding on Instagram at https://instagram.com/dr.kylebrown?igshid=1mcu9pvvemff4
Basically I had to do all the hippie yoga shit I tried to avoid, PLUS all the jock workout shit I tried to avoid. But now I’m in way better shape and I am skating pretty decently, at least by my own low standards.
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I’m 33 and I’ve taken long periods of not skating or barely skating because of injuries, but I’m back now (again) and actually still learning new tricks.
My problem started when I broke a few bones and didn’t go to physical therapy afterwards. I had lingering pain but I figured I would get back on the board when it all cleared up.
WRONG! It won’t clear up on its own. Especially if you’re no longer a little kid. All the inactivity just gave me other problems, like a bad back.
I had insurance, so I was able to go see a physical therapist and they got me started on a gym routine, resistance band workouts, foam roller, etc. And also working out knots with a lacrosse ball.
If you can’t see a PT you should at least start watching YouTube videos, reading forums, etc. Follow physical therapists on Instagram, etc. Idk if anyone else has posted the link, but there’s a physical therapist who specializes in skateboarding on Instagram at https://instagram.com/dr.kylebrown?igshid=1mcu9pvvemff4
Basically I had to do all the hippie yoga shit I tried to avoid, PLUS all the jock workout shit I tried to avoid. [/b]But now I’m in way better shape and I am skating pretty decently, at least by my own low standards.
the accuracy
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I think it's a given that our bodies all carry different specific chronic issues based on our patterns of use, both on and off the board, genetics, etc. That being said, I feel as if I have made some recent progress on the journey of trying to unravel my own physiological shit and I'd like to share so that OP or any other ppl with similar problems might find useful information.
I'm 30 and have been skating intermittently since I was about ten, a few years on, a year or two not skating so much, life happens, you already know all the shit. I've been "on" since age 25 and hopefully until I die or am in a walker. Around this time started noticing some knee pain in my right leg (I skate regs), nothing too severe, just a tightness/discomfort when the joint was at a slight bend (maybe from like 150 to 120 degrees). For the most part I just dealt with it. I'd just use adrenaline and ibuprofen to keep moving and then just be really wrecked for the next day. There were times when it was worse and times when I wouldn't even notice it. I figured I had just done some minor ligament damage and that was that.
This past year I was noticing that the pain has been the same all this time. You'd think it would get worse by now because I skate as much as I can these days and certainly am not getting younger. I started looking more into biomechanics and anatomy. It turns out that a lot of chronic joint pain arises from the cycle of weakness->imbalances->overcompensation. It's a feedback loop that imprints itself in your mind-muscle connections and results in poor mechanics. A lot of the pain specific to the knee is actually related to the quadriceps, hamstring, and calve. You may be feeling it in your knee, but that because its's where the muscles terminate and anchor to the skeleton.
For instance, pain on either side of the knee might be from the insertion points of the quad, which is a huge and powerful muscle. If the other muscles in the system are not doing enough to absorb impacts, then those thin connection points are bearing the brunt and being overworked. Personally, I think not being very good at pushing/skating switch has contributed greatly to my asymmetry over time. Think about it, front leg is like this strong, stable tree trunk that can balance you for days. Back leg is underdeveloped except for the calve which is monstrous from pushing, popping and controlling the board through balanced grinds and manuals. It's no wonder we get jacked up. Obviously I can't just get good at switch overnight, so I have been doing exercises very deliberately so that the muscles in the whole system relearn how to harmoniously support my weight.
The things that have done the most for me are bodyweight pistol squats, bodyweight Bulgarian split-squats, and standard weighted deadlifts and squats with dumbbells.
For the pistol squat you are going to be balancing on one leg and then descending into a deep knee bend. What I do is focus on the range of motion where I experience the pain and then stay there working that one zone. I'll take one or both hands and feel the quadricep working and see if I can find any soft spots where the muscle fibers aren't switching on, then try to get them activated so that I am conscious of the muscles controlling my weight. This helps instantly and after 30 seconds the pain is significantly less. I'll take a few moments mid session when I'm starting to notice pain and work the kinks out, which seems to make me way less sore afterwards. Also, they are good in general for your balance and stability on one leg. Pay attention to your foot and where it's contacting the ground. Are you heel/toe heavy? Is your arch collapsing in? Falling arches put your knees out of alignment and can carry upwards to lower back problems after years.
Just look up bulgarian split squats on youtube. The key difference between these and normal squats is that you can target the hamstring. You also get a nice stretch from the rear leg if you bend deeply. You can add weight to these, but it's not necessary to see the benefits.
Deads and squats are standard compound lifts, meaning they use a lot of different muscles. There is also wealth of videos on youtube about proper form and stuff, because you can really fuck yourself if you go about it like an idiot. These give you more of a glute workout than the other exercises, and having a powerful ass is important for athletic activity. I ordered a set of dumbbells that go up to 50 lbs each because I hate the gym and am poor, I suggest you do the same. In addition to supporting the knees and hips, these can help you increase your vertical and give your more pop. Plus you can get buff if you want.
Last thing, I hate to break it to you but yoga is dope. You don't have to convert to a hinduism or buddhism to reap these benefits. Yogic stretching reduces soreness, prevents injuries, and encourages circulation and healing. I also think there is something to the meditative quality that will benefit your skating mentally, but that's just my opinion. You can look up "yoga for __ pain" if you want to cut the fat. In my case, sun salutations, forward folds, pigeon pose, child's pose, warrior poses (there's a bunch of these), lunges, and downward dogs are all fundamental yoga poses target the legs and low back. Seriously, look into it with an open mind.
Obviously eating, sleeping, and hydrating are all important. Hiking uneven terrain is something that helps, too. I take joint supplements as well, because why not? Hope this all helps, maybe I'll try to write something more dedicated later. The most important thing is actually doing the work. It takes time, but not very much to see perceptible improvement. Last week I had a hard 4 hour park session with zero knee pain the next day, ZERO. That's a first for me since I was in my early 20's and I hope it wasn't a fluke. I've been working at this stuff for a couple of years, but much more consistently since quarantine, which I think is what has made the difference. Additionally, I think the final puzzle piece was when I realized that I could be doing a given movement while not actually using the muscles correctly. The body finds a way to compensate around its own weakness in the moment and then it becomes a habit, which must be broken.
Sorry for the length here, but I think its warranted. Our bodies are worth it, so I hope this helps someone out there. Even if you have different problems than me, this methodology can help you address what's happening, or not happening.
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I’m 33 and I’ve taken long periods of not skating or barely skating because of injuries, but I’m back now (again) and actually still learning new tricks.
My problem started when I broke a few bones and didn’t go to physical therapy afterwards. I had lingering pain but I figured I would get back on the board when it all cleared up.
WRONG! It won’t clear up on its own. Especially if you’re no longer a little kid. All the inactivity just gave me other problems, like a bad back.
I had insurance, so I was able to go see a physical therapist and they got me started on a gym routine, resistance band workouts, foam roller, etc. And also working out knots with a lacrosse ball.
If you can’t see a PT you should at least start watching YouTube videos, reading forums, etc. Follow physical therapists on Instagram, etc. Idk if anyone else has posted the link, but there’s a physical therapist who specializes in skateboarding on Instagram at https://instagram.com/dr.kylebrown?igshid=1mcu9pvvemff4
Basically I had to do all the hippie yoga shit I tried to avoid, PLUS all the jock workout shit I tried to avoid. But now I’m in way better shape and I am skating pretty decently, at least by my own low standards.
This is almost my story exactly except the physical therapy didn't help that much and then my insurance ran out and now I just work too much to really be able to do the work I need to to get my body right.
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Best thing is to eat well stretch before and after and take a hot bath postsesh. Helps a lot. Eating next to no junk food these days and my knee pains have been greatly reduced. Dont got time for things like physio or yoga
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Best thing is to eat well stretch before and after and take a hot bath postsesh. Helps a lot. Eating next to no junk food these days and my knee pains have been greatly reduced. Dont got time for things like physio or yoga
i cant skate at all if i stretch before i skate, legs dont feel as springy
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While I understand that everyone's body and experience is different, it's all about learning how to stand on your feet correctly and taking care of your feet, especially if you've already been injured. Without proper balance and alignment at the base, everything else, up to your dome, is thrown out of alignment and the fascia begins to creep, setting and holding your musculature in ways that aren't so great in the long run. What I mean by standing correctly regards more than engaging you feet, it's about engaging the whole foot complex up to the pelvic region/hips.
I'm a dude that skated for 20 years, was hit by a car and really injured, had some fixie accidents, tore my R arch, fucked up the cervical spine and sustained other bodily trauma I can't recall right now. I had a noticeable limp/odd gait for the last 15 or so years due to how I stood (pronating the R foot) and distributed weight throughout the feet. This moved up my back, disguised as sciatica (but really had to do with the muscle that controls hip flexion, the psoas muscle, which is a massive muscle complex that starts at Thoraic 5, wraps around the hip and terminates at the base of the pelvic). think about it, if you're leaning or placing your weight predominantly on one side, muscles on that side will shorten while those on the opposite will lengthen.
In June I finished an 18 month advanced yoga training focused on restoring the body back to the place it was before injuries. Most of the stretches I focus on, aside from those working the feet, take place lying on the floor with blankets and blocks to support joints during long held poses, because when the muscles don't have to fight and try to hold themselves up, that parasympathetic nervous system can kick in, meaning the heart rate slows down (fight or flight stops) and a deeper internal muscular stretch can begin. Of course my body still gets sore, but at 35 and after not being able to skate, bike, or run for 7 or so years, I'm beginning to be able to do them all again. And that limp/off gait is gone along with the constant low back pain.
Any of you dudes want me to make a short video about taking care of the feet, lemme know and I'll get it going. It's made a world of difference for me and all the folks I've gotten to do it.
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Best thing is to eat well stretch before and after and take a hot bath postsesh. Helps a lot. Eating next to no junk food these days and my knee pains have been greatly reduced. Dont got time for things like physio or yoga
i cant skate at all if i stretch before i skate, legs dont feel as springy
"Using static stretching after sports will help prevent injury. But using static stretching in a warm-up prior to an athletic competition may actually negatively impact your performance. This is because static stretching may limit your body’s ability to react quickly. This condition may last up to two hours in activities such as vertical jumps, short sprints, balance and reaction speeds."
taken from https://www.hss.edu/conditions_dynamic-static-stretching.asp (https://www.hss.edu/conditions_dynamic-static-stretching.asp)
same for me, was curious, turns out that's actually because science
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Best thing is to eat well stretch before and after and take a hot bath postsesh. Helps a lot. Eating next to no junk food these days and my knee pains have been greatly reduced. Dont got time for things like physio or yoga
i cant skate at all if i stretch before i skate, legs dont feel as springy
"Using static stretching after sports will help prevent injury. But using static stretching in a warm-up prior to an athletic competition may actually negatively impact your performance. This is because static stretching may limit your body’s ability to react quickly. This condition may last up to two hours in activities such as vertical jumps, short sprints, balance and reaction speeds."
taken from https://www.hss.edu/conditions_dynamic-static-stretching.asp (https://www.hss.edu/conditions_dynamic-static-stretching.asp)
same for me, was curious, turns out that's actually because science
Good post. If I remember correctly, the original research on this was done on sprinters and a decrease in performance was found when doing static stretching before sprinting but there was an improvement from dynamic stretching. That makes sense from a skateboarding perspective too as skating is generally a more explosive activity (not as explosive as sprinting of course, but leaning more in that direction).
Anecdotally, I stopped doing static stretching and also Yoga before any activity requiring tension or explosive movement because I find that it made me significantly less active (I was too relaxed) and I got hurt a lot more. I think a certain amount of tension in activity specific ranges of motion help keep you safe from injury and maintain performance. Dynamic stretching and light warm up works better for an actual session.
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Im 41 and have a physically demanding job, in addition to skating. The only way my body can handle it is regularly lifting weights (squats, deadlift, and upper body pushing/pulling), getting enough rest and eating well.
This is the advice I got from my buddy who was an experienced Exercise science Professor and Coach and it has made a big difference for me as far as not getting injured and being strong and energetic enough to maintain this level of activity.
I do some static stretching at night to relax and if my joints start to get too beat up I do some strength based mobility work to help with that. The core of it is to get strong and prioritize resting properly though.
It’s jock shit, but it’s the shit jocks do when jocks want to be jocks for longer
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Idk i just stretch anyways because i dont want stiff ankles or legs before and its not like i work out. Its not extensive or anything like a quick 1 and 2
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While I understand that everyone's body and experience is different, it's all about learning how to stand on your feet correctly and taking care of your feet, especially if you've already been injured. Without proper balance and alignment at the base, everything else, up to your dome, is thrown out of alignment and the fascia begins to creep, setting and holding your musculature in ways that aren't so great in the long run. What I mean by standing correctly regards more than engaging you feet, it's about engaging the whole foot complex up to the pelvic region/hips.
I'm a dude that skated for 20 years, was hit by a car and really injured, had some fixie accidents, tore my R arch, fucked up the cervical spine and sustained other bodily trauma I can't recall right now. I had a noticeable limp/odd gait for the last 15 or so years due to how I stood (pronating the R foot) and distributed weight throughout the feet. This moved up my back, disguised as sciatica (but really had to do with the muscle that controls hip flexion, the psoas muscle, which is a massive muscle complex that starts at Thoraic 5, wraps around the hip and terminates at the base of the pelvic). think about it, if you're leaning or placing your weight predominantly on one side, muscles on that side will shorten while those on the opposite will lengthen.
In June I finished an 18 month advanced yoga training focused on restoring the body back to the place it was before injuries. Most of the stretches I focus on, aside from those working the feet, take place lying on the floor with blankets and blocks to support joints during long held poses, because when the muscles don't have to fight and try to hold themselves up, that parasympathetic nervous system can kick in, meaning the heart rate slows down (fight or flight stops) and a deeper internal muscular stretch can begin. Of course my body still gets sore, but at 35 and after not being able to skate, bike, or run for 7 or so years, I'm beginning to be able to do them all again. And that limp/off gait is gone along with the constant low back pain.
Any of you dudes want me to make a short video about taking care of the feet, lemme know and I'll get it going. It's made a world of difference for me and all the folks I've gotten to do it.
I've been out virtually completely for more than two years with vaguely systemic knee, but especially lower back pain. Have been doing a bunch of stuff but so far been unable to get it under control. I'd greatly appreciate a video if you have the time.
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Don't know why so many people think looking after their bodies is 'jock' or 'hippy' shit. We all want to skate well, avoid injuries, and feel good on and off the board.
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I didn't read this whole thread so these ideas, might already have been suggested:
-Cycling. I don't drive unless I have to. I swear this has been the best injury prevention and strength, endurance promoter.
-Upgraded insoles. (And not wearing my shoes until the soles are completely worn through)
-Shorter but more frequent sessions. I used to skate once a week or once every two week and have all day marathon sessions. I'd pay for it. Now I skate for an hour or two several times a week. It has been a game changer and I hurt way less.
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Drinking water a lot and essential oil massages when it's cold and wet.
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While I understand that everyone's body and experience is different, it's all about learning how to stand on your feet correctly and taking care of your feet, especially if you've already been injured. Without proper balance and alignment at the base, everything else, up to your dome, is thrown out of alignment and the fascia begins to creep, setting and holding your musculature in ways that aren't so great in the long run. What I mean by standing correctly regards more than engaging you feet, it's about engaging the whole foot complex up to the pelvic region/hips.
I'm a dude that skated for 20 years, was hit by a car and really injured, had some fixie accidents, tore my R arch, fucked up the cervical spine and sustained other bodily trauma I can't recall right now. I had a noticeable limp/odd gait for the last 15 or so years due to how I stood (pronating the R foot) and distributed weight throughout the feet. This moved up my back, disguised as sciatica (but really had to do with the muscle that controls hip flexion, the psoas muscle, which is a massive muscle complex that starts at Thoraic 5, wraps around the hip and terminates at the base of the pelvic). think about it, if you're leaning or placing your weight predominantly on one side, muscles on that side will shorten while those on the opposite will lengthen.
In June I finished an 18 month advanced yoga training focused on restoring the body back to the place it was before injuries. Most of the stretches I focus on, aside from those working the feet, take place lying on the floor with blankets and blocks to support joints during long held poses, because when the muscles don't have to fight and try to hold themselves up, that parasympathetic nervous system can kick in, meaning the heart rate slows down (fight or flight stops) and a deeper internal muscular stretch can begin. Of course my body still gets sore, but at 35 and after not being able to skate, bike, or run for 7 or so years, I'm beginning to be able to do them all again. And that limp/off gait is gone along with the constant low back pain.
Any of you dudes want me to make a short video about taking care of the feet, lemme know and I'll get it going. It's made a world of difference for me and all the folks I've gotten to do it.
I've been out virtually completely for more than two years with vaguely systemic knee, but especially lower back pain. Have been doing a bunch of stuff but so far been unable to get it under control. I'd greatly appreciate a video if you have the time.
for sure, dude. it'll take me a little while to set down and get it done, but I enjoy making videos of this stuff. i'll probably make a few short videos with different stretches and means of execution. I'm not an expert on anything but I've been practicing and teaching yoga for 10+ years, having trained with some exceptional teachers who look outside the box of what most of us see yoga as. During the past couple years I've spent a decent amount of time doing 1:1 body scans, like looking at student/client bodies, how they stand, walk, etc and listening to what they say about their bodily experience to help them get set with an individualized plan. Some things, like working on strengthening the arches and working certain trigger points are good for people, but bodies aren't run of the mill, 1 size fits all, so I'll try to provide some options and general suggestions for common conditions. Thanks for expressing what you need!
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Turns out, alcohol is an inflammatory
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I think it's a given that our bodies all carry different specific chronic issues based on our patterns of use, both on and off the board, genetics, etc. That being said, I feel as if I have made some recent progress on the journey of trying to unravel my own physiological shit and I'd like to share so that OP or any other ppl with similar problems might find useful information.
I'm 30 and have been skating intermittently since I was about ten, a few years on, a year or two not skating so much, life happens, you already know all the shit. I've been "on" since age 25 and hopefully until I die or am in a walker. Around this time started noticing some knee pain in my right leg (I skate regs), nothing too severe, just a tightness/discomfort when the joint was at a slight bend (maybe from like 150 to 120 degrees). For the most part I just dealt with it. I'd just use adrenaline and ibuprofen to keep moving and then just be really wrecked for the next day. There were times when it was worse and times when I wouldn't even notice it. I figured I had just done some minor ligament damage and that was that.
This past year I was noticing that the pain has been the same all this time. You'd think it would get worse by now because I skate as much as I can these days and certainly am not getting younger. I started looking more into biomechanics and anatomy. It turns out that a lot of chronic joint pain arises from the cycle of weakness->imbalances->overcompensation. It's a feedback loop that imprints itself in your mind-muscle connections and results in poor mechanics. A lot of the pain specific to the knee is actually related to the quadriceps, hamstring, and calve. You may be feeling it in your knee, but that because its's where the muscles terminate and anchor to the skeleton.
For instance, pain on either side of the knee might be from the insertion points of the quad, which is a huge and powerful muscle. If the other muscles in the system are not doing enough to absorb impacts, then those thin connection points are bearing the brunt and being overworked. Personally, I think not being very good at pushing/skating switch has contributed greatly to my asymmetry over time. Think about it, front leg is like this strong, stable tree trunk that can balance you for days. Back leg is underdeveloped except for the calve which is monstrous from pushing, popping and controlling the board through balanced grinds and manuals. It's no wonder we get jacked up. Obviously I can't just get good at switch overnight, so I have been doing exercises very deliberately so that the muscles in the whole system relearn how to harmoniously support my weight.
The things that have done the most for me are bodyweight pistol squats, bodyweight Bulgarian split-squats, and standard weighted deadlifts and squats with dumbbells.
For the pistol squat you are going to be balancing on one leg and then descending into a deep knee bend. What I do is focus on the range of motion where I experience the pain and then stay there working that one zone. I'll take one or both hands and feel the quadricep working and see if I can find any soft spots where the muscle fibers aren't switching on, then try to get them activated so that I am conscious of the muscles controlling my weight. This helps instantly and after 30 seconds the pain is significantly less. I'll take a few moments mid session when I'm starting to notice pain and work the kinks out, which seems to make me way less sore afterwards. Also, they are good in general for your balance and stability on one leg. Pay attention to your foot and where it's contacting the ground. Are you heel/toe heavy? Is your arch collapsing in? Falling arches put your knees out of alignment and can carry upwards to lower back problems after years.
Just look up bulgarian split squats on youtube. The key difference between these and normal squats is that you can target the hamstring. You also get a nice stretch from the rear leg if you bend deeply. You can add weight to these, but it's not necessary to see the benefits.
Deads and squats are standard compound lifts, meaning they use a lot of different muscles. There is also wealth of videos on youtube about proper form and stuff, because you can really fuck yourself if you go about it like an idiot. These give you more of a glute workout than the other exercises, and having a powerful ass is important for athletic activity. I ordered a set of dumbbells that go up to 50 lbs each because I hate the gym and am poor, I suggest you do the same. In addition to supporting the knees and hips, these can help you increase your vertical and give your more pop. Plus you can get buff if you want.
Last thing, I hate to break it to you but yoga is dope. You don't have to convert to a hinduism or buddhism to reap these benefits. Yogic stretching reduces soreness, prevents injuries, and encourages circulation and healing. I also think there is something to the meditative quality that will benefit your skating mentally, but that's just my opinion. You can look up "yoga for __ pain" if you want to cut the fat. In my case, sun salutations, forward folds, pigeon pose, child's pose, warrior poses (there's a bunch of these), lunges, and downward dogs are all fundamental yoga poses target the legs and low back. Seriously, look into it with an open mind.
Obviously eating, sleeping, and hydrating are all important. Hiking uneven terrain is something that helps, too. I take joint supplements as well, because why not? Hope this all helps, maybe I'll try to write something more dedicated later. The most important thing is actually doing the work. It takes time, but not very much to see perceptible improvement. Last week I had a hard 4 hour park session with zero knee pain the next day, ZERO. That's a first for me since I was in my early 20's and I hope it wasn't a fluke. I've been working at this stuff for a couple of years, but much more consistently since quarantine, which I think is what has made the difference. Additionally, I think the final puzzle piece was when I realized that I could be doing a given movement while not actually using the muscles correctly. The body finds a way to compensate around its own weakness in the moment and then it becomes a habit, which must be broken.
Sorry for the length here, but I think its warranted. Our bodies are worth it, so I hope this helps someone out there. Even if you have different problems than me, this methodology can help you address what's happening, or not happening.
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While I understand that everyone's body and experience is different, it's all about learning how to stand on your feet correctly and taking care of your feet, especially if you've already been injured. Without proper balance and alignment at the base, everything else, up to your dome, is thrown out of alignment and the fascia begins to creep, setting and holding your musculature in ways that aren't so great in the long run. What I mean by standing correctly regards more than engaging you feet, it's about engaging the whole foot complex up to the pelvic region/hips.
I'm a dude that skated for 20 years, was hit by a car and really injured, had some fixie accidents, tore my R arch, fucked up the cervical spine and sustained other bodily trauma I can't recall right now. I had a noticeable limp/odd gait for the last 15 or so years due to how I stood (pronating the R foot) and distributed weight throughout the feet. This moved up my back, disguised as sciatica (but really had to do with the muscle that controls hip flexion, the psoas muscle, which is a massive muscle complex that starts at Thoraic 5, wraps around the hip and terminates at the base of the pelvic). think about it, if you're leaning or placing your weight predominantly on one side, muscles on that side will shorten while those on the opposite will lengthen.
In June I finished an 18 month advanced yoga training focused on restoring the body back to the place it was before injuries. Most of the stretches I focus on, aside from those working the feet, take place lying on the floor with blankets and blocks to support joints during long held poses, because when the muscles don't have to fight and try to hold themselves up, that parasympathetic nervous system can kick in, meaning the heart rate slows down (fight or flight stops) and a deeper internal muscular stretch can begin. Of course my body still gets sore, but at 35 and after not being able to skate, bike, or run for 7 or so years, I'm beginning to be able to do them all again. And that limp/off gait is gone along with the constant low back pain.
Any of you dudes want me to make a short video about taking care of the feet, lemme know and I'll get it going. It's made a world of difference for me and all the folks I've gotten to do it.
I've been out virtually completely for more than two years with vaguely systemic knee, but especially lower back pain. Have been doing a bunch of stuff but so far been unable to get it under control. I'd greatly appreciate a video if you have the time.
for sure, dude. it'll take me a little while to set down and get it done, but I enjoy making videos of this stuff. i'll probably make a few short videos with different stretches and means of execution. I'm not an expert on anything but I've been practicing and teaching yoga for 10+ years, having trained with some exceptional teachers who look outside the box of what most of us see yoga as. During the past couple years I've spent a decent amount of time doing 1:1 body scans, like looking at student/client bodies, how they stand, walk, etc and listening to what they say about their bodily experience to help them get set with an individualized plan. Some things, like working on strengthening the arches and working certain trigger points are good for people, but bodies aren't run of the mill, 1 size fits all, so I'll try to provide some options and general suggestions for common conditions. Thanks for expressing what you need!
Awesome, this really meets my need for support in this frustrating situation. Much appreciated! Will check back here regularly.
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While I understand that everyone's body and experience is different, it's all about learning how to stand on your feet correctly and taking care of your feet, especially if you've already been injured. Without proper balance and alignment at the base, everything else, up to your dome, is thrown out of alignment and the fascia begins to creep, setting and holding your musculature in ways that aren't so great in the long run. What I mean by standing correctly regards more than engaging you feet, it's about engaging the whole foot complex up to the pelvic region/hips.
I'm a dude that skated for 20 years, was hit by a car and really injured, had some fixie accidents, tore my R arch, fucked up the cervical spine and sustained other bodily trauma I can't recall right now. I had a noticeable limp/odd gait for the last 15 or so years due to how I stood (pronating the R foot) and distributed weight throughout the feet. This moved up my back, disguised as sciatica (but really had to do with the muscle that controls hip flexion, the psoas muscle, which is a massive muscle complex that starts at Thoraic 5, wraps around the hip and terminates at the base of the pelvic). think about it, if you're leaning or placing your weight predominantly on one side, muscles on that side will shorten while those on the opposite will lengthen.
In June I finished an 18 month advanced yoga training focused on restoring the body back to the place it was before injuries. Most of the stretches I focus on, aside from those working the feet, take place lying on the floor with blankets and blocks to support joints during long held poses, because when the muscles don't have to fight and try to hold themselves up, that parasympathetic nervous system can kick in, meaning the heart rate slows down (fight or flight stops) and a deeper internal muscular stretch can begin. Of course my body still gets sore, but at 35 and after not being able to skate, bike, or run for 7 or so years, I'm beginning to be able to do them all again. And that limp/off gait is gone along with the constant low back pain.
Any of you dudes want me to make a short video about taking care of the feet, lemme know and I'll get it going. It's made a world of difference for me and all the folks I've gotten to do it.
I would be greatly interested. I have an over pronation in my right foot as well (left isn't as bad, both flatfooted as hell though). It's caused issues going up to the knee (patellar tendinitis), sciatic, and back (scoliosis).
This summer after I went to the creek with some friends and was walking on rocks barefoot for a couple hours, I felt like a million bucks. My feet and entire legs had this sense of presence and control that was very new. I went skating and even just an ollie felt like the best thing in the entire world. I'd love to make that feeling happen more often.
At 30 I'm looking down the barrel of, "I'll do anything to get as much fun out of this body as I can."
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https://www.goldskatesupply.com/product-page/padded-compression-sleeve-knee
15 a pair isn't bad. Oliver lucero rides for them and he's pretty good. I just have some copperfit ones without padding I wear but i grew up playing basketball like 6 hours a day since I was 16 so I've known the sweet relief of these things since I was young. even though skaters that don't know me probably kook me all the homies have just accepted I gotta wear em if I wanna skate this much at 30 and still be able to work on my feet all day and go hoop too.
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I'm stoked to put together a few clips for y'all. I'll send DMs to y'all specifically when I do. Thanks for sharing what your bodily conditions are. I can't promise anything miraculous, but I won't make you hurt more. There's a few things that, once they're known, most people can do to help restore their bodies to a more comfortable place.
@DaleCooper, those days of feeling awesome and void of pain are so great when they come. Walking barefoot can be really good! I don't have flat feet but I watched one my teachers, over the course of a year, help a girl with flat feet learn how to every so slightly engage the arch. That girl was very, very stoked. I'll try to show you some stuff. In my experience, as someone who doesn't have flat feet but whose R arch was blown out and subsequently threw the rest of my body out of alignment, paying attention to how I walk and what I wear for shoes makes an incredible difference. I'll stop for now.
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For muscles, for food, plenty of water and stretching guess should be good. I feel better when I practise this, but unfortunately it's a state I step into in periods rather than practice on a regular.
For joints, fish oils man, fish oils! Good ones. I'm 33, and practically/physically don't function function with out.
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@DaleCooper
@RoaryMcTwang
I'm stoked to put together a few clips for y'all. I'll send DMs to y'all specifically when I do. Thanks for sharing what your bodily conditions are. I can't promise anything miraculous, but I won't make you hurt more. There's a few things that, once they're known, most people can do to help restore their bodies to a more comfortable place.
@DaleCooper, those days of feeling awesome and void of pain are so great when they come. Walking barefoot can be really good! I don't have flat feet but I watched one my teachers, over the course of a year, help a girl with flat feet learn how to every so slightly engage the arch. That girl was very, very stoked. I'll try to show you some stuff. In my experience, as someone who doesn't have flat feet but whose R arch was blown out and subsequently threw the rest of my body out of alignment, paying attention to how I walk and what I wear for shoes makes an incredible difference. I'll stop for now.
Yeah I'm super interested in this too when you get around to it. Very flat footed congenitally and have worn orthotics for walking around since I was a kid. I think I've slowed or maybe even reversed some of the pronation by being very deliberate about how I stand and walk when barefoot, but I think I should do more focused foot-work.
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My girl bought me a massage gun and it's so great after a sesh and the sore days that follow. I recommend getting one, don't cheap out though.
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- Stretch before skating
- Weighted squats, lunges, leg press, leg extension, etc. Resistance training and building muscle helps tremendously with injuries
- Immediately ice any areas after injury, don't just rest or ignore
- Stretch after skating
- Foam rollers for sore joints help a lot. 30-60 second pauses on affected areas. Legs, back, chest.
I currently work two jobs and both are manual labor. Construction and machining. I skate, ski, bike and moto. I'm 37 and my body feels even older. A lot of it comes down to mentally blocking out any painful areas, but the most important thing for me was getting back in the gym 3 years ago and targeting problematic joints. Last summer I broke my collarbone badly and thought I'd give up all my extracurricular hobbies, but it just took dedication and a desire to get back at it. I'm skating better now than in my teens.
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I can recommend winter green (that‘s a plant) essential oils. You can use it pure on sore knees or dilute it with carrier oil to rub it in or put it in the bath.
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My girl bought me a massage gun and it's so great after a sesh and the sore days that follow. I recommend getting one, don't cheap out though.
You can find a pretty good one at Costco for $79
https://www.costco.com/precision-power-vitalize-deep-tissue-percussion-muscle-massager.product.100715290.html
But the $159 Homedics one is a beauty that will probably last forever
https://www.costco.com/homedics-therapist-select-pro-percussion-massager.product.100701712.html