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Title: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: Spicy boi. on September 02, 2017, 12:35:28 AM
Frontside 50-50's just piss me the fuck off. My front shoulder just won't stop turning so i always end up in a shitty front feeble on a ledge. Anyone else have basic tricks that just piss them off to no end?
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Post by: dirtyweemidden on September 02, 2017, 12:55:55 AM
pop shuvits, had em real good when i was just starting, then a broke my ankle and have never been able to do a decent one since
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Post by: somethingmustbreaknow on September 02, 2017, 01:30:02 AM
kickflip.
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Post by: S. on September 02, 2017, 01:52:50 AM
kickflip.

Yes, regular kickflips on flat are the worst! I can do them pretty well off bumps and in banks and I can do them well fakie. When I do them on flat they are always real shitty or don't work at all. 
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Post by: the snake on September 02, 2017, 01:54:00 AM
frontside shove-its and nollie heels aren't my friends
backside grinds too, but they magically work with a flip in
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Post by: Spicy boi. on September 02, 2017, 03:07:45 AM
kickflip.
same, mine all always front foot caught and shitty
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Post by: the_unknown_soldier on September 02, 2017, 06:40:25 AM
Most ledge/rail tricks. I've had some weird nerve pain in my knee which makes it a lot more work to pop tricks, and that translate to feeling less in control so I just get freaked out. It's real frustrating.
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Post by: deluxxxe on September 02, 2017, 07:05:23 AM
Frontside 50-50's just piss me the fuck off. My front shoulder just won't stop turning so i always end up in a shitty front feeble on a ledge. Anyone else have basic tricks that just piss them off to no end?

when I first learned em the trick for me was to focus on locking in that front truck first, and then shifting the back truck on after. that being said, the front truck slipping out of 5050s is a known troublemaker.

kickflip.
same, mine all always front foot caught and shitty

I'm convinced regular kickflips are the hardest flip trick. I bail em in pretty much every game of skate, but have no problem doing "harder" flip tricks first try - tre flips, nollie flips, switch heels, you name it. drives me crazy.
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Post by: Tracer on September 02, 2017, 09:28:58 AM
I keep thinking I can feeble ledges.
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Post by: MOE SYZLAK on September 02, 2017, 09:53:06 AM
Pop shoves, heelflips and bs feeble grinds will forever baffle me.
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Post by: yatallfreak on September 02, 2017, 12:38:19 PM
backside and frontside axle stalls/grinds on any kind of real transition. Think its cause when I was a kid I just learned bs feeble stalls and fs five-0 grinds and skipped learning axle stalls/grinds. So now they feel awkward trying to get up on them and not think about overshooting onto the deck. I'll frontside disaster or tailside some bowl before axle grinding it and its so dumb
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Post by: Willie on September 02, 2017, 09:00:50 PM
Back D on transition. I mean, they're more like 2nd level basic but I can't even bail one the right way.
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Post by: ihatejulio on September 02, 2017, 09:35:23 PM
Fakie is fine, but anything switch or nollie, phew.
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Post by: Mongoloid on September 03, 2017, 01:47:00 AM
Kickflips and I have an everlasting troublesome relationship. I'll have points where I can do them into grinds, over relatively high objects, and incredibly consistent. To one day not being able to do them well for months on end.

Fucking hate kickflips.
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Post by: dr.prestige on September 03, 2017, 01:59:05 AM
Almost 15 years of skating clocked in and I'm still trying to do nose manuals
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Post by: shit_for_brains on September 03, 2017, 04:45:25 AM
I don't think I'll ever do a switch or nollie heel flip.
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Post by: Diocletian on September 03, 2017, 05:43:25 AM
I could never figure out flip tricks, but that doesn't really bother me. I love transition and going fast, long grinds, manuals and bombing hills. I just wish I could get over my fear of frontside grinds. Even on the smallest quarter pipe all I can do is a frontside slash. I can't hold onto a 5-0 and keep it going or else it freaks me out. A nice long frontside grind is one of the coolest tricks in skateboarding, especially on pool coping. Only in dreams...
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Post by: Mark Renton on September 03, 2017, 02:27:24 PM
kickflips are hit or miss, same for nollie flips
3flips are driving me nuts lately and I used to do them fine.
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Post by: Thomas on September 04, 2017, 12:11:39 AM
fs shuv...
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Post by: Grind King Rims on September 04, 2017, 01:02:16 AM
Nollie flip, switch flip.
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Post by: Cinco on September 04, 2017, 03:02:42 AM
Ollieing up curbs backside. Last time I tried while cruising down the street I hung up and my board got ran over by a car.
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Post by: MintySandwhich on September 04, 2017, 09:21:58 AM
nollie flip
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Post by: Dr. Octagon on September 04, 2017, 11:15:59 AM
fakie heelflip.
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Post by: Mongoloid on September 04, 2017, 12:41:40 PM
fakie heelflip.

Oh fucking god just stop!

The absolute ultimate assknife trick in existence! I used to have these on lock until "the incident".  I was just the right height at the time where I got stabbed a solid inch deep in the taint, and no doubt I was left bloody and violated.

Nowadays when I try them I just automatically turn backside (no pun intended).
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Post by: j....soy..... on September 04, 2017, 04:21:58 PM
It's a switch nollie heel.....

Back 50-50's on street are hard for me....and actually on ramp too....I'm a fakie rock/tail stall guy.....
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Post by: Suit Up! on September 04, 2017, 08:32:19 PM
fs shuv...

This! Never done one I've been happy with.
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Post by: silhouette on September 05, 2017, 03:09:38 AM
frontside flips used to work just fine till the very day i eventually learned switch frontside flips. for one day i thought i was cool throwing both back to back on flat mid line, then as soon as the next day after that the regular ones were completely gone for no legitimate reason. to this day i can still do both, but regular f/s flip remains a pain in the ass whereas the switch counterpart is a walk in the park.

many basic b/s ledge tricks still feel awkward to this day due to never really giving a shit about them - or not even having a proper ledge to learn them on - growing up. been working on that because now i think they look the best, but it's hard to shed off 15+ years of bad habits

also kickflip nosewheelie is a fairly basic one i've always seen people do like they're nothing, and as a kid i remember thinking it was one of the coolest tricks, but i couldn't learn it back then because i had chicken foot mobbed kickflips which just wouldn't function. nowadays i feel like i could finally learn it, but i'm missing a good manny pad for that. or maybe i just need to get off my ass, find a random curb and nerd out on them for a solid two hours...
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Post by: Esquivel on September 05, 2017, 06:08:56 AM
kickflips and fs shove its

since i fucked up my flick foot's ankle (1998) i have not landed a single kickflip that was not kebab/rocket so no chance to learn flip crooks or flip nosewheelies or flip noseslides.
with fs shuvs its different. I can pop them pretty-pretty-high (for my level) but they are always uncontrolled  and a hazard for my board and I have never been able to do one into a 5-o or a nosegrind. No control whatsoever, just pop and pray. I think I cannot do that thing when the board goes kind of in front of you like it would for a fs shove it fs five oh but working on it.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: silhouette on September 05, 2017, 06:40:35 AM
with fs shuvs its different. I can pop them pretty-pretty-high (for my level) but they are always uncontrolled  and a hazard for my board and I have never been able to do one into a 5-o or a nosegrind. No control whatsoever, just pop and pray. I think I cannot do that thing when the board goes kind of in front of you like it would for a fs shove it fs five oh but working on it.

i can do my f/s shoves like that, sort of ; just popping straight down really hard on the tail (sheer brute force) with barely any shove-it type of motion instantly results, for me, in a two-feet high flatground f/s pop shove that just meets the front foot at the peak (if not before the peak) of the jump (it's one of the tricks i can pop the best, and i really only do them on flatground or out of manuals). now that sounds (and feels) really nice except the consistency comes and goes with every new deck i set up, depending on the shape ; on certain decks (we're talking a good 50% ratio) my toes will catch the board first and accidentally start late flipping it, which i never seem able to foresee (turning the whole adventure into a pop and pray thing too) and consequently regularly results in hitting the worst, most violent flatground primos. for that reason alone i swear i dread the first f/s shove(s) that come(s) with every time i need to touch my set-up.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: Esquivel on September 05, 2017, 07:32:09 AM
with fs shuvs its different. I can pop them pretty-pretty-high (for my level) but they are always uncontrolled  and a hazard for my board and I have never been able to do one into a 5-o or a nosegrind. No control whatsoever, just pop and pray. I think I cannot do that thing when the board goes kind of in front of you like it would for a fs shove it fs five oh but working on it.

i can do my f/s shoves like that, sort of ; just popping straight down really hard on the tail (sheer brute force) with barely any shove-it type of motion instantly results, for me, in a two-feet high flatground f/s pop shove that just meets the front foot at the peak (if not before the peak) of the jump (it's one of the tricks i can pop the best, and i really only do them on flatground or out of manuals). now that sounds (and feels) really nice except the consistency comes and goes with every new deck i set up, depending on the shape ; on certain decks (we're talking a good 50% ratio) my toes will catch the board first and accidentally start late flipping it, which i never seem able to foresee (turning the whole adventure into a pop and pray thing too) and consequently regularly results in hitting the worst, most violent flatground primos. for that reason alone i swear i dread the first f/s shove(s) that come(s) with every time i need to touch my set-up.


a friend i regularly skate with does them perfect, even into fs tailslides! he tried to teach me numerous times but to no avail. I guess its my back foot that out of habit pops crooked and in a direction that favors bs shove its. I could work on it more but the tax on boards is crazy- I break or at least crack one deck every time i session fs shove its on flat.
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Post by: shit_for_brains on September 05, 2017, 08:55:32 AM
kickflips and fs shove its

since i fucked up my flick foot's ankle (1998) i have not landed a single kickflip that was not kebab/rocket so no chance to learn flip crooks or flip nosewheelies or flip noseslides.
with fs shuvs its different. I can pop them pretty-pretty-high (for my level) but they are always uncontrolled  and a hazard for my board and I have never been able to do one into a 5-o or a nosegrind. No control whatsoever, just pop and pray. I think I cannot do that thing when the board goes kind of in front of you like it would for a fs shove it fs five oh but working on it.

I know every ankle and injury is different so what worked for me might not work for you, but I royally fucked my flick foot up in the 90s as well and had total dog shit kickflips for the next like 13 years. I had to not do them for a long time and then start over with them and totally rethink what my body was doing. For all those years I kept kickflipping off of muscle memory like I always did and it would get so frustrating. My flat ground ones are still hit or miss but I can get them into nose and tail slides, and 5050s and 50s and I'm old so I'm sure you can too.
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Post by: Esquivel on September 05, 2017, 11:31:20 AM
kickflips and fs shove its

since i fucked up my flick foot's ankle (1998) i have not landed a single kickflip that was not kebab/rocket so no chance to learn flip crooks or flip nosewheelies or flip noseslides.
with fs shuvs its different. I can pop them pretty-pretty-high (for my level) but they are always uncontrolled  and a hazard for my board and I have never been able to do one into a 5-o or a nosegrind. No control whatsoever, just pop and pray. I think I cannot do that thing when the board goes kind of in front of you like it would for a fs shove it fs five oh but working on it.

I know every ankle and injury is different so what worked for me might not work for you, but I royally fucked my flick foot up in the 90s as well and had total dog shit kickflips for the next like 13 years. I had to not do them for a long time and then start over with them and totally rethink what my body was doing. For all those years I kept kickflipping off of muscle memory like I always did and it would get so frustrating. My flat ground ones are still hit or miss but I can get them into nose and tail slides, and 5050s and 50s and I'm old so I'm sure you can too.

I keep blaming my ankle but deep inside i know i nust have to man up and re learn them. It will be my goal before i reach 40. Then film flip crooks for a birthday clip, 40 of them  :)
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Post by: sharkin on September 05, 2017, 12:05:45 PM
BS 180s  :'(
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Post by: Donald Rump on September 06, 2017, 03:53:55 AM
Almost 15 years of skating clocked in and I'm still trying to do nose manuals

Fucking bane of my existence.
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Post by: straight on September 06, 2017, 08:18:20 AM
keeping with the ankle injuries, for me it's fs flips...rolled mine doing one on flat and been freaked out by that trick ever since..it's such an easy trick but i don't fuck with it
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Post by: ducky darnsworth on September 06, 2017, 11:05:22 AM
anything with a flip hates me but im trying to change that
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Post by: Suit Up! on September 06, 2017, 03:42:29 PM
BS 180s  :'(

Go outside right now and try one keeping your eyes on your back foot.
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Post by: dirtyweemidden on September 11, 2017, 06:19:53 AM
dont wanna be that guy who tells people how to do tricks BUUUUTTTTT...

an older dude told me as a grom that if you imagine you are skating within a square you can figure out where you board is gonna land-
 front shuv/ Variel heel, fs bigspin ect - start in the bottom right corner (if your regs, left if your goofy) as you pop jump to the diaginal opposite corner youll be on the board every time.
pop shuv/ varial kickflip etc -  start at bottom left (right for goofy) and jump to the opposite corner (top right)

this totally worked for me and unlocked a bunch of tricks.

the other tip i picked up was for straight kickflip you wanna drag your flicking toe through the truck bolt on the heel side of your deck and off the nose pocket, they ping up to your back foot every time.

now if anyone wants to shed some light on nollie tres id appreciate it, those fuckers have eluded me for a good ten years
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Post by: the snake on September 11, 2017, 06:32:42 AM
^put your front foot in the pocket of the nose, scoop and jump forward ! try to visualize it as a fakie treflip, but in a mirror lol
...and find the good amount of flip to put in, of course
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Post by: JB on September 11, 2017, 11:48:08 AM
BS 180s  :'(

switch ones for me. my body doesnt move that way.
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Post by: silhouette on September 11, 2017, 01:08:52 PM
now if anyone wants to shed some light on nollie tres id appreciate it, those fuckers have eluded me for a good ten years

it's all in the big toe on your front foot, you have to find that sweet spot for it, so you get the right pop. back foot really barely moves... i put mine inside the board in the middle of the concave at an angle. then both feet have to work together as your pop, back foot flick is merely an extension of the pop. it's not unlike the way 360 flips work, just mirrored. and different from fakie 360 flips in that you face the direction you're going, enabling you to have a more comfortable, open stance
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Post by: Baron Samedi on September 11, 2017, 01:57:15 PM
now if anyone wants to shed some light on nollie tres id appreciate it, those fuckers have eluded me for a good ten years

it's all in the big toe on your front foot, you have to find that sweet spot for it, so you get the right pop. back foot really barely moves... i put mine inside the board in the middle of the concave at an angle. then both feet have to work together as your pop, back foot flick is merely an extension of the pop. it's not unlike the way 360 flips work, just mirrored. and different from fakie 360 flips in that you face the direction you're going, enabling you to have a more comfortable, open stance
Nollie tres are my favorite trick. One piece of advice I can give that might help you is to think of it as being more vertical than horizontal. What I mean by this is obviously the trick goes horizontally since it has to spin, but in order to get the flip going it helps to think of it as moving vertically. Like how sometimes when you see a still photo of a normal 360 flip just before the catch it looks like it's rotating at maybe a 45 degree angle with the ground. Think of the initial pop as trying to mirror that trajectory rather than doing it such that it will rotate parallel with the ground, and the flip might come easier.

As far as basic tricks that I can't wrap my head around, I think I can do basically every flatground trick besides a regular inward heelflip. To add insult to injury, when I try them I almost always end up getting stabbed by my board or rolling an ankle.
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Post by: Esquivel on September 14, 2017, 05:42:27 AM
BS 180s  :'(

switch ones for me. my body doesnt move that way.

It all has to do with shoulder placement/rotation. What Suit Up said for regular ones means that you need your shoulders rotated in order to look at your back foot thus providing enough body twist for the 180 to occur. You just need to practice turning your shoulders and ollieing at the same time. It will feel awkward and blind in the beginning but will become natural with time.
Carlos Ribeiro's sw 360 is a good example. It might be a 360 rotation but it is the same principle.

(https://s26.postimg.org/jer65gzx1/Carlos-_Ribeiro2.png) (https://postimg.org/image/jer65gzx1/)
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Post by: the snake on September 14, 2017, 07:23:15 AM
now if anyone wants to shed some light on nollie tres id appreciate it, those fuckers have eluded me for a good ten years

it's all in the big toe on your front foot, you have to find that sweet spot for it, so you get the right pop. back foot really barely moves... i put mine inside the board in the middle of the concave at an angle. then both feet have to work together as your pop, back foot flick is merely an extension of the pop. it's not unlike the way 360 flips work, just mirrored. and different from fakie 360 flips in that you face the direction you're going, enabling you to have a more comfortable, open stance
Nollie tres are my favorite trick. One piece of advice I can give that might help you is to think of it as being more vertical than horizontal. What I mean by this is obviously the trick goes horizontally since it has to spin, but in order to get the flip going it helps to think of it as moving vertically. Like how sometimes when you see a still photo of a normal 360 flip just before the catch it looks like it's rotating at maybe a 45 degree angle with the ground. Think of the initial pop as trying to mirror that trajectory rather than doing it such that it will rotate parallel with the ground, and the flip might come easier.

As far as basic tricks that I can't wrap my head around, I think I can do basically every flatground trick besides a regular inward heelflip. To add insult to injury, when I try them I almost always end up getting stabbed by my board or rolling an ankle.
that vertical approach sounds good, could help to land them as consistently than fakie tre
for inward heels i watched a sequence of sean sheffey in the 90's that helped me a lot, you gotta flick on the edge of your board till the nose with a massive ninja kick lol
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Post by: behavioralguide on September 14, 2017, 08:51:32 AM
nollie fs anything (exept 360's)
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Post by: max power on September 14, 2017, 02:44:54 PM
Not a cool trick or even one I'd do outside of SKATE, but I have never been able to pressure flip.
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Post by: Suit Up! on September 14, 2017, 03:41:24 PM
Not a cool trick or even one I'd do outside of SKATE, but I have never been able to pressure flip.

This! What the fucks with it?
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Post by: funeral_tuxedo on September 14, 2017, 04:00:31 PM
Kickflips: I learned them skating solo and basically did ollie late front foot flips. Undoing that default setting is weird. I can rocket them now but they're sporadic, unnatural, and ugly at best.
Bigspins: I learned the old 180 shuv bs 180 nose pivot Jason Lee style ones and it ended there. I can't pop and scoop a big spin without it flipping and giving me a shinner. I can't slide it on the ground without it going primo.
Back lipslides: any advice welcome.
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Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on September 14, 2017, 05:34:13 PM
Not a cool trick or even one I'd do outside of SKATE, but I have never been able to pressure flip.

This! What the fucks with it?
imagine how hard it was in 93 when you had nothing but shitty video grab sequences to look at.
pro tip: your front foot does absolutely nothing, learn them standing still with your back foot only and you'll be able to pull them. scoop harder than any other trick there is. also works better once you've got a little pressure flip mark on your nose/ tail. beware though because it's a fine line and said mark will soon become a weapon that you can use to cut things with
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Post by: mitchhh on September 14, 2017, 07:18:19 PM
I agree with the others that said kickflip. Once I learned them, I was just so satisfied I could land it and I moved on to other tricks without perfecting them. I've got 3 shuvs pretty good but ever since I learned them regular pop shuvs have been giving me grief
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Post by: shit_for_brains on September 15, 2017, 09:49:24 AM
Kickflips: I learned them skating solo and basically did ollie late front foot flips. Undoing that default setting is weird. I can rocket them now but they're sporadic, unnatural, and ugly at best.
Bigspins: I learned the old 180 shuv bs 180 nose pivot Jason Lee style ones and it ended there. I can't pop and scoop a big spin without it flipping and giving me a shinner. I can't slide it on the ground without it going primo.
Back lipslides: any advice welcome.

The ONLY thing that matters in lipslides is getting your back truck over the rail. Keep your upper body static, don't twist it, and that way if you mess up it'll slip out in front of you pretty naturally and you won't stick and get tossed. Turn your lower half a lot. It'll feel like too much but that's waaaaay better than not enough.

Backside ollie over the rail first. If you can do that, you can back lip it. Do it on a parking curb first and get the motion down, then it's literally the exact same on every obstacle. Back lips are one of those tricks that you do the same every time no matter what you're doing them on so if you have it on one thing you have it on everything.
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Post by: OldManSkate on September 15, 2017, 10:51:08 AM
Kickflips! I haven't been able to have them consistently ever. Some days I can do like 5 in a row flawless and some days I can't land one for shit. Same thing with 50-50s
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Post by: silhouette on September 15, 2017, 11:38:23 AM
Not a cool trick or even one I'd do outside of SKATE, but I have never been able to pressure flip.

back foot with the big toe over the back wheel on the toe side - ie. picture imaginary perpendicular lines extending from each one of your back truck bolts (like a grid of sorts), have your big toe nested in the lowest corner of said lines, on the toe side of the concave. then just press down vertically on that exact spot with all your weight as you jump straight upward. front foot gets out of the way straight upward too like you're doing an impossible, no flick or anything, you really just lift your leg. all the sudden downward pressure over the wheel will cause the board to spring up and start flipping around that axis. then you just suck your feet up so as not to interfere with the motion and you (hopefully) catch it as the griptape side comes back around. it's really like an impossible let go of instead of wrapping, or a very off-axis pop shove-it (the type of which you'd primo on, just deliberately extended and exaggerated)
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Post by: GAY on September 16, 2017, 01:13:20 PM
There are too many ass tricks that piss me off to list here.
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Post by: Mongoloid on September 17, 2017, 10:04:32 AM
I can heelflip with nearly 99% success rate, but they always look fucking terrible. I would love to figure out how to do them like I used to in my better skate years.
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Post by: yungthug on September 17, 2017, 10:21:46 AM
I have a love/hate relationship with tre flips. There are are days where I figure out the scoop and land them super consistently for the whole session, then I lose them and don't land a single one for months. There's no rhyme or reason to it, it just happens out of the blue.

I've just given up on heelflips due to landing primo one too many times.
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Post by: Vinchenzo on September 17, 2017, 02:33:54 PM
I have a love/hate relationship with tre flips. There are are days where I figure out the scoop and land them super consistently for the whole session, then I lose them and don't land a single one for months. There's no rhyme or reason to it, it just happens out of the blue.
Tre flips are bitter sweet, peer pressure from friends help after everyone lands theirs in the game of skate. Just gotta jump with it.

B/S 50-50s on quarter pipes. My front truck loves to slip out of the coping and onto the top of the deck.

B/S Smiths on ledges, the heel on my backfoot loves to act as a brake pad.

F/S Flips, probably have done 3-5 in my life but never can figure it out. My body is "f/s challenged".

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Post by: shit_for_brains on September 18, 2017, 05:57:47 AM
I have a love/hate relationship with tre flips. There are are days where I figure out the scoop and land them super consistently for the whole session, then I lose them and don't land a single one for months. There's no rhyme or reason to it, it just happens out of the blue.
Tre flips are bitter sweet, peer pressure from friends help after everyone lands theirs in the game of skate. Just gotta jump with it.

B/S 50-50s on quarter pipes. My front truck loves to slip out of the coping and onto the top of the deck.

B/S Smiths on ledges, the heel on my backfoot loves to act as a brake pad.

F/S Flips, probably have done 3-5 in my life but never can figure it out. My body is "f/s challenged".



I used to do them Ellington style, a kickflp then a quick 180, but my success rate was way low and it was a crap shoot every time. THEN I saw a clip of Carroll doing one in I believe that Wet Dream video they did however long ago, he just does a FS flip on flat in a line, and watching him do that one made them click for me and I can do them way better and way more frequently now. The way he has his feet and shoulders is really obvious and if you can copy that you'll be gold. I tried to find the montage online but I can only find the CK in the pool parts so happy hunting.
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Post by: S. on September 18, 2017, 01:35:22 PM
frontside noseslides. It took me ten years to learn frontside boardslides, I'm afraid it will take another ten years to learn frontside noseslides. They are so nice though!
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: straight on September 18, 2017, 10:04:33 PM
don't feel like making a new thread but: how bout tricks you can't do because you think they're stupid and don't ever try them but look like you suck when you can't land it in a game of skate ...

for me it's - fakie frontside bigspins
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Post by: Suit Up! on September 18, 2017, 11:28:02 PM
I'll play...

Halfcab Heel. I think they look kinda silly, and I have no desire to learn them, but it's a guaranteed letter for me in skate.
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Post by: JB on September 19, 2017, 09:56:56 AM
i cant fuck with any kind of late flips. that shit unnecessary n hard.
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Post by: Baron Samedi on September 19, 2017, 10:39:37 AM
i cant fuck with any kind of late flips. that shit unnecessary n hard.
generally good policy not to bother with anything that looks like absolute shit anyways
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Post by: dirtyweemidden on September 19, 2017, 12:29:03 PM
ill take a letter for a fakie frontside bigspin too. horrible trick.
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Post by: JB on September 19, 2017, 02:03:12 PM
theres a line in mosaic where dill does a fakie front shuv and i always thought he made it look really cool, so ive always been a fan of doing that trick. my frontside halfcabs ( :P) have always been better than backside, so the fakie front big just came natural i think. its almost as simple as just turning my shoulders and going back to regular. they don't look great and ive never done it on anything other than a hip and flat ground, but yeah, its an easy letter on almost anyone in skate. sorry.
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Post by: shit_for_brains on September 19, 2017, 02:15:43 PM
theres a line in mosaic where dill does a fakie front shuv and i always thought he made it look really cool, so ive always been a fan of doing that trick. my frontside halfcabs ( :P) have always been better than backside, so the fakie front big just came natural i think. its almost as simple as just turning my shoulders and going back to regular. they don't look great and ive never done it on anything other than a hip and flat ground, but yeah, its an easy letter on almost anyone in skate. sorry.

That's my experience too. Along with switch bs 180s
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Post by: straight on September 19, 2017, 02:16:19 PM
well just know that when you look back and im frowning..im calling you a douche in my head
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Post by: shit_for_brains on September 19, 2017, 03:51:43 PM
well just know that when you look back and im frowning..im calling you a douche in my head

A boot doesn't care what an ant thinks.
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Post by: Adam Abbas on September 19, 2017, 08:46:50 PM
Nollie front shoves and pop shoves. Both simple tricks that I can in fact do, but don't do regularly because they're not fun. Then I screw them up and look like a moron and not someone who's been skating for seventeen years. Nollie front shoves are the go-to for any simple game of SKATE, it seems like.
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Post by: Esquivel on September 20, 2017, 04:49:02 AM
frontside noseslides. It took me ten years to learn frontside boardslides, I'm afraid it will take another ten years to learn frontside noseslides. They are so nice though!

I learned them by overwaxing a curb and then ollieing into the noseslide but with my shoulders posed as if i was doing a fs boardslide. The one with turned shoulders, that would look rad for a photo. The posing will help you not die because of the excess wax and the excess wax will help you slide while in that awkward pose. Once you have the ollieing/sliding part down you can start not waxing the ledge/rail. Also, it helps if the curb is not super low. I feel comfy at a bit lower than knee height.
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Post by: straight on September 21, 2017, 10:25:29 AM
tricks your ashamed to have in your bag: double flips
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Post by: the snake on September 21, 2017, 10:38:31 AM
^
? don't have them anymore, except 360 doubleflips sometimes, they mess with my original flip...even made tripleflips down high curbz  back in ze dayz
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Post by: Kumiko on September 21, 2017, 10:54:53 AM
tricks your ashamed to have in your bag: double flips

No-comply pressure flips
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Post by: Vinchenzo on September 21, 2017, 01:05:06 PM
I have a love/hate relationship with tre flips. There are are days where I figure out the scoop and land them super consistently for the whole session, then I lose them and don't land a single one for months. There's no rhyme or reason to it, it just happens out of the blue.
Tre flips are bitter sweet, peer pressure from friends help after everyone lands theirs in the game of skate. Just gotta jump with it.

B/S 50-50s on quarter pipes. My front truck loves to slip out of the coping and onto the top of the deck.

B/S Smiths on ledges, the heel on my backfoot loves to act as a brake pad.

F/S Flips, probably have done 3-5 in my life but never can figure it out. My body is "f/s challenged".



I used to do them Ellington style, a kickflp then a quick 180, but my success rate was way low and it was a crap shoot every time. THEN I saw a clip of Carroll doing one in I believe that Wet Dream video they did however long ago, he just does a FS flip on flat in a line, and watching him do that one made them click for me and I can do them way better and way more frequently now. The way he has his feet and shoulders is really obvious and if you can copy that you'll be gold. I tried to find the montage online but I can only find the CK in the pool parts so happy hunting.
Thanks I'll try to peep it.
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Post by: S. on September 21, 2017, 01:38:14 PM
frontside noseslides. It took me ten years to learn frontside boardslides, I'm afraid it will take another ten years to learn frontside noseslides. They are so nice though!

I learned them by overwaxing a curb and then ollieing into the noseslide but with my shoulders posed as if i was doing a fs boardslide. The one with turned shoulders, that would look rad for a photo. The posing will help you not die because of the excess wax and the excess wax will help you slide while in that awkward pose. Once you have the ollieing/sliding part down you can start not waxing the ledge/rail. Also, it helps if the curb is not super low. I feel comfy at a bit lower than knee height.

Thank you for the advice! What I am struggeling to do is exactly that what you have described. Even when doing frontside boardslides I still have trouble keeping my body turned in the right way even though I can do them pretty consistently my body gets pretty weirdly contorted at times. I will keep working at it and I will try doing them on taller ledges.
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Post by: Guy Ferrari on September 21, 2017, 04:35:00 PM
i cant do a regular heel flip. i got them switch, nollie and fakie. I've literally landed like 10 regular heel flips in 10 years of skating. 
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: Suit Up! on September 29, 2017, 03:45:09 PM
tricks your ashamed to have in your bag: double flips

Boardslides on ledges  :-\
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Post by: Mark Renton on October 01, 2017, 05:19:47 AM
Bs grinds  :-\
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: shit_for_brains on October 01, 2017, 07:17:50 AM
tricks your ashamed to have in your bag: double flips

Boardslides on ledges  :-\

A lot of willy grind stuff.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: sushishane_ on October 09, 2017, 03:19:44 PM
Crooks, I just can't do them anymore.
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Post by: LOU.502 on October 11, 2017, 01:26:20 AM
Fs tailslides, fs flips, and v.heels. Ive always felt good with sw fs tail, sw fs flip, and sw v. heel, but I've never been able do any of those thangs regular with any consistency.
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Post by: dirtyweemidden on October 12, 2017, 01:05:57 PM
Fs tailslides, fs flips, and v.heels. Ive always felt good with sw fs tail, sw fs flip, and sw v. heel, but I've never been able do any of those thangs regular with any consistency.

I feel that! v heels and fs flips are just easier switch! cant switch tailslide to save my life.. but im with you on the other two
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Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on October 12, 2017, 05:45:32 PM
most frontside tricks...
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Post by: JB on October 13, 2017, 09:29:14 AM
most frontside tricks...

backside for me. it took me years and years just to be able to back 5050. i can do noseslides and boardslides and maybe a bluntslide if im feeling daring, but backside grinds have always been a struggle. if i try a feeble, its going to take me a million tries which i never understood because i can get into them fine but i just stick, but front smiths have always come easy.
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Post by: sharkin on October 13, 2017, 01:04:42 PM
tricks your ashamed to have in your bag: double flips

Varial flips for me. Not ashamed though; I love them
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Post by: Spicy boi. on October 17, 2017, 06:46:01 PM
i can't fakie front shuv or switch pop shuv pretty much at all, when i land them in a game of skate it's a blessing
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Post by: nickheaddickhead on October 18, 2017, 11:25:41 AM
Is switch tre a basic trick?
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Post by: Rein on October 28, 2017, 04:54:04 AM
Bs flips. They just wrap around my foot and I hit myself in the shins.

Kickflipping into anything. I have really good kickflips on flat but I can't do them into anything for the life of me.
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Post by: fang on October 28, 2017, 09:25:06 PM
Almost 15 years of skating clocked in and I'm still trying to do nose manuals

I can't do them worth shit after 31 years.
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Post by: cosmicgypsies on October 29, 2017, 06:21:39 AM
back 180s and front shuvs lol
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Post by: Mark Renton on October 30, 2017, 11:26:58 AM
3flips are driving me nuts. Also nosemanuals are hit or miss now used to do them everywhere. I think the problem is in the shoulders placement when going for both.
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Post by: Latarian Milton on October 30, 2017, 06:15:02 PM
Stand up frontside 50-50s on transition and front shuvs on flat. Fakie and switch are no problem, but regular ones are always on/off for me. I also have landing a switch heelflip on my bucket list, but I don't think I'll ever get there.
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Post by: planman on November 02, 2017, 12:45:30 PM
I'm trying to relearn heelflips and I'm not even fucking close. I was pretty decent at them before I broke my ankle and the fact that I can't even pop them enrages me
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Post by: AitchBeeGayBuh on November 05, 2017, 04:24:01 PM
I can't half cab nose slide worth anything but can fakie nosegrind 180 out everytime, just don't get it...
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Post by: yungthug on November 05, 2017, 07:45:36 PM
front shuvs on flat. Fakie and switch are no problem, but regular ones are always on/off for me.
Preach! I got better at them after I realized you don't have to scoop with your back foot, but rather just push straight down and the board will do the work for you. They still feel really awkward though and I want to do them better and land them more consistently.
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Post by: SKATELYNJENNER on November 25, 2017, 01:13:32 PM
front shuvs on flat. Fakie and switch are no problem, but regular ones are always on/off for me.
Preach! I got better at them after I realized you don't have to scoop with your back foot, but rather just push straight down and the board will do the work for you. They still feel really awkward though and I want to do them better and land them more consistently.
Glad I'm not the only one hahaha I'll have to try this front shuvs are my arch nemisis
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Post by: dr.prestige on November 26, 2017, 12:55:46 AM
...even when doing frontside boardslides I still have trouble keeping my body turned in the right way even though I can do them pretty consistently my body gets pretty weirdly contorted at times. I will keep working at it and I will try doing them on taller ledges.

I think that front boards are a lot easier when you ollie into it on something higher than a curb, like a foot or foot and a half tall flatbar. I can do them pretty consistently on those but I can't remember the last time I did one on a curb.
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Post by: maxtellevision on November 26, 2017, 07:27:18 PM
Bigspins at the end of every line
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Post by: doublesteveburger on November 27, 2017, 01:28:02 PM
Alright I've been skateboarding for half my stupid life I think it's time I learned to 5050 on a round bar. Any tips would be greatly appreciated. The last time I tried one was 10 years ago and I ended up with a swellbow but knee-version.
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Post by: Baron Samedi on November 27, 2017, 01:53:33 PM
Alright I've been skateboarding for half my stupid life I think it's time I learned to 5050 on a round bar. Any tips would be greatly appreciated. The last time I tried one was 10 years ago and I ended up with a swellbow but knee-version.
I don't fuck with rails but I have a friend who can 50-50 anything and he swears the safest way to grind a rail is to grind it at an uneven angle (so it almost looks like a smith or feeble). So like if you're regular, your back truck is contacting the rail close to the left wheel and the front truck is touching the rail close to the right wheel. I've seen him grind some very scary things and the ones he lands do always look like that.
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Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on November 27, 2017, 06:11:06 PM
Alright I've been skateboarding for half my stupid life I think it's time I learned to 5050 on a round bar. Any tips would be greatly appreciated. The last time I tried one was 10 years ago and I ended up with a swellbow but knee-version.
I don't fuck with rails but I have a friend who can 50-50 anything and he swears the safest way to grind a rail is to grind it at an uneven angle (so it almost looks like a smith or feeble). So like if you're regular, your back truck is contacting the rail close to the left wheel and the front truck is touching the rail close to the right wheel. I've seen him grind some very scary things and the ones he lands do always look like that.

That pops up in every video now multiple times.

Looks stupid imo but that must be fun riding out a huge curved rail or kinker
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Post by: shit_for_brains on November 28, 2017, 06:51:36 AM
Staggering your trucks ala Riley Hawk is the way to sit on round rails. I don't sit on them for any distance, but that's how. Backside is "safer" feeling to me because I can hop off the other side of the rail if I get scurred.

I think the younger generation is infinitely more comfortable on round rails than older folk because of the turn of the century suburban proliferation of the round CCS flat rail.
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Post by: doublesteveburger on November 28, 2017, 08:39:33 AM
Staggering your trucks ala Riley Hawk is the way to sit on round rails. I don't sit on them for any distance, but that's how. Backside is "safer" feeling to me because I can hop off the other side of the rail if I get scurred.

I think the younger generation is infinitely more comfortable on round rails than older folk because of the turn of the century suburban proliferation of the round CCS flat rail.

So... Jamie Thomas fucked us all with the Zero flatbar?



Trying one today. Thanks for the tips dudes. I'll report back later. Or not. Who gives a shit.
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Post by: shit_for_brains on November 28, 2017, 09:23:51 AM
Staggering your trucks ala Riley Hawk is the way to sit on round rails. I don't sit on them for any distance, but that's how. Backside is "safer" feeling to me because I can hop off the other side of the rail if I get scurred.

I think the younger generation is infinitely more comfortable on round rails than older folk because of the turn of the century suburban proliferation of the round CCS flat rail.

So... Jamie Thomas fucked us all with the Zero flatbar?



Trying one today. Thanks for the tips dudes. I'll report back later. Or not. Who gives a shit.

I didn't have any of that shit I had the pole from a street sign delicately balanced in a crack

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/019/304/old.jpg)
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Post by: planman on November 28, 2017, 09:52:45 PM
I literally cannot pop shove. Pretty sure the last time I did one was in 2010/11. The whole pop and scoop thing just feels completely unnatural to me.

I'll have to try to learn 50-50s on rails though, tried it once before and I never got close.
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Post by: Jollyoli on November 30, 2017, 04:35:44 AM
Nollies up things, over things is fine, parallel into grind/slide is fine, straight up something I have a brain glitch.
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Post by: Il Dio sotto la pelle on November 30, 2017, 06:44:14 PM
Heelflips, kickflips, and pop shovs. Can never seem to get my back foot down, frustrating but oh well.
Anyone got tips for nollies over things, I can get them on flat, but there is like a mental block when I try it over a curb or a street cone.
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Post by: silhouette on December 01, 2017, 12:34:20 AM
Heelflips, kickflips, and pop shovs. Can never seem to get my back foot down, frustrating but oh well.
Anyone got tips for nollies over things, I can get them on flat, but there is like a mental block when I try it over a curb or a street cone.

pop earlier than you'd think, learn them down small sets of stairs to get the right idea about the timing
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Post by: Sandboxcop on December 02, 2017, 02:14:42 PM
BS 180s  :'(

Go outside right now and try one keeping your eyes on your back foot.

Dude thank you, always had a hard time rolling out switch and not pivoting.
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Post by: roba on December 03, 2017, 05:54:56 AM
tailslides, both fs and bs, and i've got good fs lipslides so fs tails shouldn't be too hard but for some reason i can't get them to slide, every time i try i do a tail stall. as for bs tailslides, i can't do them at all, i'm just too scared to try

frontside noseslides as well, another scary trick (for me at least)
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Post by: yatallfreak on December 03, 2017, 11:22:42 AM
tailslides, both fs and bs, and i've got good fs lipslides so fs tails shouldn't be too hard but for some reason i can't get them to slide, every time i try i do a tail stall. as for bs tailslides, i can't do them at all, i'm just too scared to try

frontside noseslides as well, another scary trick (for me at least)
For tailslides I usually lean out away from the ledge and push down but forward with the foot thats sliding to really make the ledge slide. But thats on the ledges at the skatepark which are never really too waxed and don't slide well. I feel like the ledge would have to be insanely slick to be able to like stand straight and be chilling on a tailslide. I'd always stick on back tails till my friend pointed out you gotta push your back foot the same as front tails.
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Post by: planman on December 03, 2017, 10:16:09 PM
BS 180s  :'(

Go outside right now and try one keeping your eyes on your back foot.

Dude thank you, always had a hard time rolling out switch and not pivoting.
Does that actually work? I can't back one to save my life
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Post by: shit_for_brains on December 04, 2017, 05:53:14 AM
tailslides, both fs and bs, and i've got good fs lipslides so fs tails shouldn't be too hard but for some reason i can't get them to slide, every time i try i do a tail stall. as for bs tailslides, i can't do them at all, i'm just too scared to try

frontside noseslides as well, another scary trick (for me at least)
For tailslides I usually lean out away from the ledge and push down but forward with the foot thats sliding to really make the ledge slide. But thats on the ledges at the skatepark which are never really too waxed and don't slide well. I feel like the ledge would have to be insanely slick to be able to like stand straight and be chilling on a tailslide. I'd always stick on back tails till my friend pointed out you gotta push your back foot the same as front tails.

All of this is good. Put every ounce of your weight on your sliding foot and lean a little bit back and you can coast those fuckers for miles.
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Post by: doublesteveburger on December 04, 2017, 11:58:44 AM
tailslides, both fs and bs, and i've got good fs lipslides so fs tails shouldn't be too hard but for some reason i can't get them to slide, every time i try i do a tail stall. as for bs tailslides, i can't do them at all, i'm just too scared to try

frontside noseslides as well, another scary trick (for me at least)
For tailslides I usually lean out away from the ledge and push down but forward with the foot thats sliding to really make the ledge slide. But thats on the ledges at the skatepark which are never really too waxed and don't slide well. I feel like the ledge would have to be insanely slick to be able to like stand straight and be chilling on a tailslide. I'd always stick on back tails till my friend pointed out you gotta push your back foot the same as front tails.

All of this is good. Put every ounce of your weight on your sliding foot and lean a little bit back and you can coast those fuckers for miles.

This just clicked for me a few days ago as well for back tails. The front foot just does the guiding, the back foot does all the work.
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Post by: Bizarro Jerry on December 04, 2017, 05:39:24 PM
K grinds. I learn them like once a year and lose them just as fast.
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Post by: yatallfreak on December 04, 2017, 05:55:14 PM
Used to be able to 360 flip really consistently, I remember one day trying a line and being able to land them well every try. But now I can hardly even flip the fucking things. Somehow I can rotate them switch every try and fakie is really comfortable but regular just fucks with my head now. I just overthink them every try
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Post by: truthislie on December 05, 2017, 06:31:53 AM
tailslides, both fs and bs, and i've got good fs lipslides so fs tails shouldn't be too hard but for some reason i can't get them to slide, every time i try i do a tail stall. as for bs tailslides, i can't do them at all, i'm just too scared to try

frontside noseslides as well, another scary trick (for me at least)
For tailslides I usually lean out away from the ledge and push down but forward with the foot thats sliding to really make the ledge slide. But thats on the ledges at the skatepark which are never really too waxed and don't slide well. I feel like the ledge would have to be insanely slick to be able to like stand straight and be chilling on a tailslide. I'd always stick on back tails till my friend pointed out you gotta push your back foot the same as front tails.

All of this is good. Put every ounce of your weight on your sliding foot and lean a little bit back and you can coast those fuckers for miles.

I canīt seem to get out of bs tailslides. I have been trying for really long now and I guess it might be in my shoulders. When I land one which rarely happens, I fall out to fakie awkwardly. I can slide them but I cant get out of them. Any tips on that? thanks
 
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Post by: shit_for_brains on December 05, 2017, 09:15:23 AM
tailslides, both fs and bs, and i've got good fs lipslides so fs tails shouldn't be too hard but for some reason i can't get them to slide, every time i try i do a tail stall. as for bs tailslides, i can't do them at all, i'm just too scared to try

frontside noseslides as well, another scary trick (for me at least)
For tailslides I usually lean out away from the ledge and push down but forward with the foot thats sliding to really make the ledge slide. But thats on the ledges at the skatepark which are never really too waxed and don't slide well. I feel like the ledge would have to be insanely slick to be able to like stand straight and be chilling on a tailslide. I'd always stick on back tails till my friend pointed out you gotta push your back foot the same as front tails.

All of this is good. Put every ounce of your weight on your sliding foot and lean a little bit back and you can coast those fuckers for miles.

I canīt seem to get out of bs tailslides. I have been trying for really long now and I guess it might be in my shoulders. When I land one which rarely happens, I fall out to fakie awkwardly. I can slide them but I cant get out of them. Any tips on that? thanks

It's probably your hips. I don't move my upper body much if I'm doing bs tails to regular, so if your shoulders are getting in the mix try keeping your upper body mostly facing the direction it was when you hit your tail. Then you can just rotate your hips out of it.
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Post by: Sandboxcop on December 05, 2017, 01:06:43 PM
BS 180s  :'(

Go outside right now and try one keeping your eyes on your back foot.

Dude thank you, always had a hard time rolling out switch and not pivoting.
Does that actually work? I can't back one to save my life

Did for me, I guess it tricked my shoulders to turn all the way around, try it out, I was getting them the cleanest I ever have pretty quickly that way.
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Post by: truthislie on December 05, 2017, 01:07:45 PM
tailslides, both fs and bs, and i've got good fs lipslides so fs tails shouldn't be too hard but for some reason i can't get them to slide, every time i try i do a tail stall. as for bs tailslides, i can't do them at all, i'm just too scared to try

frontside noseslides as well, another scary trick (for me at least)
For tailslides I usually lean out away from the ledge and push down but forward with the foot thats sliding to really make the ledge slide. But thats on the ledges at the skatepark which are never really too waxed and don't slide well. I feel like the ledge would have to be insanely slick to be able to like stand straight and be chilling on a tailslide. I'd always stick on back tails till my friend pointed out you gotta push your back foot the same as front tails.

All of this is good. Put every ounce of your weight on your sliding foot and lean a little bit back and you can coast those fuckers for miles.

I canīt seem to get out of bs tailslides. I have been trying for really long now and I guess it might be in my shoulders. When I land one which rarely happens, I fall out to fakie awkwardly. I can slide them but I cant get out of them. Any tips on that? thanks

It's probably your hips. I don't move my upper body much if I'm doing bs tails to regular, so if your shoulders are getting in the mix try keeping your upper body mostly facing the direction it was when you hit your tail. Then you can just rotate your hips out of it.

Thank you, I ll focus on my hips and report back when I find a dry place to skate again which will probably be next weekend  8)
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Post by: Baron Samedi on December 05, 2017, 01:24:58 PM
maybe it's been said and i wasn't paying attention, but also on the back tail to regs it helps a lot to look over your shoulder. getting out of it is really natural that way since your body will follow your head.
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Post by: truthislie on December 10, 2017, 06:30:00 AM
maybe it's been said and i wasn't paying attention, but also on the back tail to regs it helps a lot to look over your shoulder. getting out of it is really natural that way since your body will follow your head.

Thank you Baron Samedi, I have already tried looking over my shoulder but I cant really keep looking there while sliding. I always end up looking straight down. No skating this weekend since its cold as fuck here, but I will work on the bs tailslide in the near future. Itīs such a good looking trick and I really want to have it on lock as good as possible.
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Post by: planman on December 14, 2017, 11:56:37 PM
BS 180s  :'(

Go outside right now and try one keeping your eyes on your back foot.

Dude thank you, always had a hard time rolling out switch and not pivoting.
Does that actually work? I can't back one to save my life

Did for me, I guess it tricked my shoulders to turn all the way around, try it out, I was getting them the cleanest I ever have pretty quickly that way.
Gonna try it tomorrow, I suppose
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: Sandboxcop on December 20, 2017, 06:10:25 PM
BS 180s  :'(

Go outside right now and try one keeping your eyes on your back foot.

Dude thank you, always had a hard time rolling out switch and not pivoting.
Does that actually work? I can't back one to save my life

Did for me, I guess it tricked my shoulders to turn all the way around, try it out, I was getting them the cleanest I ever have pretty quickly that way.
Gonna try it tomorrow, I suppose

Any luck on the back 180's?
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: Sloboldmanstyle on December 21, 2017, 09:11:24 PM
31 years of skating... Granted on and off. But it's still fucking kickflips! 99% of the time I look like Gonz mobbing, bounce them off the ground or just one foot the fuck out of them, with no flip. Like once a year I get the floating front foot flick and back foot catch and it's glorious! 😂
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: Bumpovertrash on December 24, 2017, 12:41:18 AM
 Im on board i cant kickflip or backtail worth a shit
its embarrassing
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: dirtyweemidden on December 24, 2017, 01:09:18 AM
31 years of skating... Granted on and off. But it's still fucking kickflips! 99% of the time I look like Gonz mobbing, bounce them off the ground or just one foot the fuck out of them, with no flip. Like once a year I get the floating front foot flick and back foot catch and it's glorious! 😂

best tip i ever got for kickflips was drag your front toe right over the truck bolt and out of the pocket of the nose. clicked for me and ten years later its the only trick i have on lock down no matter what.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: Sloboldmanstyle on December 24, 2017, 04:52:08 AM
31 years of skating... Granted on and off. But it's still fucking kickflips! 99% of the time I look like Gonz mobbing, bounce them off the ground or just one foot the fuck out of them, with no flip. Like once a year I get the floating front foot flick and back foot catch and it's glorious! 😂

best tip i ever got for kickflips was drag your front toe right over the truck bolt and out of the pocket of the nose. clicked for me and ten years later its the only trick i have on lock down no matter what.
That's the simplest break down of a trick I've heard and makes complete sense in a way to repeat consistently. Gonna give it a shot, thanks man!
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: dirtyweemidden on December 24, 2017, 05:58:34 AM
31 years of skating... Granted on and off. But it's still fucking kickflips! 99% of the time I look like Gonz mobbing, bounce them off the ground or just one foot the fuck out of them, with no flip. Like once a year I get the floating front foot flick and back foot catch and it's glorious! 😂

best tip i ever got for kickflips was drag your front toe right over the truck bolt and out of the pocket of the nose. clicked for me and ten years later its the only trick i have on lock down no matter what.
That's the simplest break down of a trick I've heard and makes complete sense in a way to repeat consistently. Gonna give it a shot, thanks man!

no worries bro, let us know if it works for you!
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: planman on December 24, 2017, 11:17:02 PM
BS 180s  :'(

Go outside right now and try one keeping your eyes on your back foot.

Dude thank you, always had a hard time rolling out switch and not pivoting.
Does that actually work? I can't back one to save my life

Did for me, I guess it tricked my shoulders to turn all the way around, try it out, I was getting them the cleanest I ever have pretty quickly that way.
Gonna try it tomorrow, I suppose

Any luck on the back 180's?
I tried some last night, actually. I need to get it down into a fluid motion, but that tip definitely works. Hopefully I'll eventually be able to get them as a good as my front 180s, which is the flatground trick I do the best
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: Sloboldmanstyle on December 29, 2017, 09:46:58 PM
31 years of skating... Granted on and off. But it's still fucking kickflips! 99% of the time I look like Gonz mobbing, bounce them off the ground or just one foot the fuck out of them, with no flip. Like once a year I get the floating front foot flick and back foot catch and it's glorious! 😂

best tip i ever got for kickflips was drag your front toe right over the truck bolt and out of the pocket of the nose. clicked for me and ten years later its the only trick i have on lock down no matter what.
That's the simplest break down of a trick I've heard and makes complete sense in a way to repeat consistently. Gonna give it a shot, thanks man!

no worries bro, let us know if it works for you!
Been -10 to 15*F with 2' of snow here. But I cleaned off the garage floor tonight and gave it a shot. My flips were more consistent, leveled and popped. After trying to break some really old/bad habits, I caught and landed more than usual. It's been a long time since I was stoked on kickflips. I can't wait to get more than one push in with a hurried set up and try with some speed. Thanks again for the advice homie!
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: cancelled on December 30, 2017, 12:47:52 AM
31 years of skating... Granted on and off. But it's still fucking kickflips! 99% of the time I look like Gonz mobbing, bounce them off the ground or just one foot the fuck out of them, with no flip. Like once a year I get the floating front foot flick and back foot catch and it's glorious! 😂

To not mob your kickflips, drag your back heel up the board as pop the flip.  same as you would an ollie.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: dirtyweemidden on December 30, 2017, 03:14:26 AM
31 years of skating... Granted on and off. But it's still fucking kickflips! 99% of the time I look like Gonz mobbing, bounce them off the ground or just one foot the fuck out of them, with no flip. Like once a year I get the floating front foot flick and back foot catch and it's glorious! 😂

best tip i ever got for kickflips was drag your front toe right over the truck bolt and out of the pocket of the nose. clicked for me and ten years later its the only trick i have on lock down no matter what.
That's the simplest break down of a trick I've heard and makes complete sense in a way to repeat consistently. Gonna give it a shot, thanks man!

no worries bro, let us know if it works for you!
Been -10 to 15*F with 2' of snow here. But I cleaned off the garage floor tonight and gave it a shot. My flips were more consistent, leveled and popped. After trying to break some really old/bad habits, I caught and landed more than usual. It's been a long time since I was stoked on kickflips. I can't wait to get more than one push in with a hurried set up and try with some speed. Thanks again for the advice homie!

Sick! glad it worked for you dude
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: Beeker on December 31, 2017, 07:47:53 AM
I just can't figure out how the hell people ollie more than a couple inches out of manuals.

Also, I have front shuvs on lock, but I always end up about 2 feet behind where I started
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: shit_for_brains on January 01, 2018, 07:40:05 AM
I just can't figure out how the hell people ollie more than a couple inches out of manuals.

Also, I have front shuvs on lock, but I always end up about 2 feet behind where I started

You're doing the work with your front foot instead of your back foot.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: Baron Samedi on January 01, 2018, 02:10:03 PM
I just can't figure out how the hell people ollie more than a couple inches out of manuals.
The trick to this unfortunately is to just do more manuals. There's no secret other than to do a ton of manuals to get good at manuals. There is also no secret to balance, which is the key to doing a good ollie or nollie out of a manual, other than the slow grind of improving it over years.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: Beeker on January 01, 2018, 07:14:08 PM
I just can't figure out how the hell people ollie more than a couple inches out of manuals.

Also, I have front shuvs on lock, but I always end up about 2 feet behind where I started

You're doing the work with your front foot instead of your back foot.


I'm almost sure this isn't it. I scoop during the pop to get the rotation so it rotates on the axis of the back wheels, but I don't use my front foot at all. I can't figure out how to pop down and then scoop out. I can do it standing like everyone else, but jumping and doing it has always eluded me. I put a decent amount of time into figuring this out with no progress. I have a lifetime of other shit to learn so it'll be alright.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: truthislie on January 03, 2018, 09:10:29 AM
maybe it's been said and i wasn't paying attention, but also on the back tail to regs it helps a lot to look over your shoulder. getting out of it is really natural that way since your body will follow your head.

Thank you Baron Samedi, I have already tried looking over my shoulder but I cant really keep looking there while sliding. I always end up looking straight down. No skating this weekend since its cold as fuck here, but I will work on the bs tailslide in the near future. Itīs such a good looking trick and I really want to have it on lock as good as possible.

I ve had 3 or 4 sessions meanwhile, still no luck on a controlled bs ts. When I focus on looking forward or my hips, I tend to not get 100% straight in the slide which results in sticking. When I donīt I mostly slide out. I am currently trying to find that sweet spot between the two. I still have the feeling that I will break through and get them more consistent soon (even tough its been more than 5 years of trying so far haha).
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: 99Pancakes on January 03, 2018, 09:57:52 AM
I was always god awful at just normal ollies until I realized you can help "pull" the board up with your back foot too -_-
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: dirtyweemidden on January 04, 2018, 11:02:39 PM
maybe it's been said and i wasn't paying attention, but also on the back tail to regs it helps a lot to look over your shoulder. getting out of it is really natural that way since your body will follow your head.

Thank you Baron Samedi, I have already tried looking over my shoulder but I cant really keep looking there while sliding. I always end up looking straight down. No skating this weekend since its cold as fuck here, but I will work on the bs tailslide in the near future. Itīs such a good looking trick and I really want to have it on lock as good as possible.

I ve had 3 or 4 sessions meanwhile, still no luck on a controlled bs ts. When I focus on looking forward or my hips, I tend to not get 100% straight in the slide which results in sticking. When I donīt I mostly slide out. I am currently trying to find that sweet spot between the two. I still have the feeling that I will break through and get them more consistent soon (even tough its been more than 5 years of trying so far haha).

push your board slightly further out in the direction your sliding, so it feels like its gonna go past where you think is the right spot, it almost always works for me whereas aiming to be exactly the same angle as the ledge i always stick
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: planman on January 05, 2018, 09:41:56 PM
I was always god awful at just normal ollies until I realized you can help "pull" the board up with your back foot too -_-
explain
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: silhouette on January 06, 2018, 02:43:18 AM
I was always god awful at just normal ollies until I realized you can help "pull" the board up with your back foot too -_-

for a while I could only tweak switch ollies, but not normal ones either. I could do some high ones, but they were always stiff-legged although I could bring those knees up to my ears sometimes, trying to make it over the tallest obstacles I would try. then I learned proper nosebonks where you just kind of kick off the nose to bonk the front wheels against the obstacle (as opposed to going for a very quick nosewheelie with your weight over the nose) and somehow something clicked after that and now I can 'float' (ahem) ollies over high shit with a lot less effort, by pretty much faking a nosebonk where you overestimate the height on purpose and end up going over the obstacle, it's hard to explain but basically that allows you to level the board out with just the right timing to clear heftier shit. feels a lot better too because it's a really light-footed way to ollie.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: deluxxxe on January 06, 2018, 10:42:25 AM
I just can't figure out how the hell people ollie more than a couple inches out of manuals.

Also, I have front shuvs on lock, but I always end up about 2 feet behind where I started

You're doing the work with your front foot instead of your back foot.


I'm almost sure this isn't it. I scoop during the pop to get the rotation so it rotates on the axis of the back wheels, but I don't use my front foot at all. I can't figure out how to pop down and then scoop out. I can do it standing like everyone else, but jumping and doing it has always eluded me. I put a decent amount of time into figuring this out with no progress. I have a lifetime of other shit to learn so it'll be alright.

something else to keep in mind is that the board doesn't need to stay parallel to the ground the whole time - mine often end up rotating slightly like a varial heel and the nose (i.e. the tail when you popped the trick) is lower than the tail which makes it easier to catch with the front foot
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: planman on January 06, 2018, 01:06:06 PM
Also, how the fuck do I pop shuv? I legitimately have not done one in probably six years; the whole motion of the trick seem entirely unnatural to me (but of course I can rotate a 360 shuv perfectly).
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: shit_for_brains on January 06, 2018, 07:46:01 PM
Also, how the fuck do I pop shuv? I legitimately have not done one in probably six years; the whole motion of the trick seem entirely unnatural to me (but of course I can rotate a 360 shuv perfectly).

I can't do regular ones at all. They always at least half flip. The first flip trick I ever learned was a 360 flip and I think it contaminated all my others.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: ChuckRamone on January 07, 2018, 11:28:41 AM
maybe it's been said and i wasn't paying attention, but also on the back tail to regs it helps a lot to look over your shoulder. getting out of it is really natural that way since your body will follow your head.

Thank you Baron Samedi, I have already tried looking over my shoulder but I cant really keep looking there while sliding. I always end up looking straight down. No skating this weekend since its cold as fuck here, but I will work on the bs tailslide in the near future. Itīs such a good looking trick and I really want to have it on lock as good as possible.

I ve had 3 or 4 sessions meanwhile, still no luck on a controlled bs ts. When I focus on looking forward or my hips, I tend to not get 100% straight in the slide which results in sticking. When I donīt I mostly slide out. I am currently trying to find that sweet spot between the two. I still have the feeling that I will break through and get them more consistent soon (even tough its been more than 5 years of trying so far haha).

this is also a trick that eludes me. I have periods of trying to get it but no breakthroughs so far. when people say to look over your shoulder, do they mean before or during the slide? most pictures I see of this trick, the person is looking down but their shoulders are usually parallel to the ledge or rail. I donít understand how you could lock into this trick and slide while looking forward.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on January 07, 2018, 06:26:55 PM
Also, how the fuck do I pop shuv? I legitimately have not done one in probably six years; the whole motion of the trick seem entirely unnatural to me (but of course I can rotate a 360 shuv perfectly).
  Put the toes of your back foot more in the middle of the tail rather then the edge, that will help the board from flipping.  Then pop without much spin at all.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: dirtyweemidden on January 11, 2018, 03:40:34 PM
maybe it's been said and i wasn't paying attention, but also on the back tail to regs it helps a lot to look over your shoulder. getting out of it is really natural that way since your body will follow your head.

Thank you Baron Samedi, I have already tried looking over my shoulder but I cant really keep looking there while sliding. I always end up looking straight down. No skating this weekend since its cold as fuck here, but I will work on the bs tailslide in the near future. Itīs such a good looking trick and I really want to have it on lock as good as possible.

I ve had 3 or 4 sessions meanwhile, still no luck on a controlled bs ts. When I focus on looking forward or my hips, I tend to not get 100% straight in the slide which results in sticking. When I donīt I mostly slide out. I am currently trying to find that sweet spot between the two. I still have the feeling that I will break through and get them more consistent soon (even tough its been more than 5 years of trying so far haha).

this is also a trick that eludes me. I have periods of trying to get it but no breakthroughs so far. when people say to look over your shoulder, do they mean before or during the slide? most pictures I see of this trick, the person is looking down but their shoulders are usually parallel to the ledge or rail. I donít understand how you could lock into this trick and slide while looking forward.

i battled for consistant back tails for years, what worked for me is pushing the tail out further than you feel like it should go.. like when i was aiming for exactly 90' on the ledge i would always either come up short or stick.. pushing it out to whatt feels like more than parallel gets the glide going.. at first youll always fall out to fakie but once you get used to it and control the slide coming out regs comes pretty quick
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: VHS ERA on January 15, 2018, 05:58:37 AM
Itís not even a god damn trick. I canít powerslide either way and thus will never look as cool as yall.

As soon as I turn itís over. There is no slide, my board just stops and Iím off.

I remember doing them through slippery piles of leaves in the fall as a kid but thatís it.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: FrenchFriedClownFingers on January 15, 2018, 12:34:42 PM
I've noticed a lot of people who are just learning new tricks hunch over the board before popping instead of keeping their back straight and bending their knees. it helped me a lot with learning tricks to pretend that im sitting in a chair..
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: 99Pancakes on January 16, 2018, 09:28:44 AM
I was always god awful at just normal ollies until I realized you can help "pull" the board up with your back foot too -_-
explain

pop, slide front foot like normal, but also imagine your back foot constantly in contact with the board, using the contact to pull it up and slightly forward
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: planman on January 17, 2018, 10:26:52 AM
I was always god awful at just normal ollies until I realized you can help "pull" the board up with your back foot too -_-
explain

pop, slide front foot like normal, but also imagine your back foot constantly in contact with the board, using the contact to pull it up and slightly forward
Ah, working on it
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: ChuckRamone on January 17, 2018, 06:00:46 PM
ollieing into nose manuals on low things like up a sidewalk. how do you do that? I do better trying them on something higher. manuals in general are tough for me but Iíve always wanted to do nose manuals on low manual pads.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: FrenchFriedClownFingers on January 18, 2018, 01:19:00 AM
ollieing into nose manuals on low things like up a sidewalk. how do you do that? I do better trying them on something higher. manuals in general are tough for me but Iíve always wanted to do nose manuals on low manual pads.

I held off for years on learning nose manuals so 2 years ago i started learning them on small pads because i was scared to go any higher. i've gotten them finally but after eating a lot of shit. they are for sure easier on high stuff. just go light at first like don't totally nosedive into the curb
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: Octobre Rouge. on January 21, 2018, 04:21:59 AM
ollieing into nose manuals on low things like up a sidewalk. how do you do that? I do better trying them on something higher. manuals in general are tough for me but Iíve always wanted to do nose manuals on low manual pads.

avoid stomping on your nose, being light footed and perfectly perpendicular to the board is the key

Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: Beeker on January 22, 2018, 01:10:36 PM
ollieing into nose manuals on low things like up a sidewalk. how do you do that? I do better trying them on something higher. manuals in general are tough for me but Iíve always wanted to do nose manuals on low manual pads.

avoid stomping on your nose, being light footed and perfectly perpendicular to the board is the key

Also, besides this, put your front put a lot higher so you barely have to drag into it. Experiment with possibly keeping your front foot even more over the trucks in the curve of the nose when you land in the manny. Keeping your arms parallel to the board is huge. I had the same problem until I started practicing this more.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: somethingmustbreaknow on January 22, 2018, 01:49:07 PM
tips on frontide flips? the ones where you spin it out
and do not revert/pivot it on flat after > 90 degrees?
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: FrenchFriedClownFingers on January 22, 2018, 06:29:39 PM
tips on frontide flips? the ones where you spin it out
and do not revert/pivot it on flat after > 90 degrees?

practice hardflips a lot and then think of it like a hardflip 180
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: planman on January 23, 2018, 09:33:06 PM
I haven't done a fs flip since before I broke my ankle but when I did do them they were Muska flips. Not sure what I can say other than literally think about it as a front 180 and a kickflip (disclaimer: front 180s are the one trick I'm REALLY good at). That's how I learned them.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: Pigeon on January 23, 2018, 11:12:59 PM
Switch flips are harder for me than switch 360 flips. I canít get switch varial kickflips when I try, but get them when I fuck up switch 360 flips.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: silhouette on January 24, 2018, 02:07:03 AM
tips on frontide flips? the ones where you spin it out
and do not revert/pivot it on flat after > 90 degrees?

this is going to sound weird but I started getting those a lot more after I started setting up for them the way I normally set up for 360 flips, big toe on the pocket, face where you're going then open your shoulders as you pop.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: Trashcon on January 24, 2018, 09:28:14 PM
Switch flips and ollie north. Haven't been able to do them in years. Rolled my ankle pretty bad some years back and haven't been able to get them back.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: gollum mcjinglemeballs on February 01, 2018, 02:12:32 PM
Smacking your tail down after an ollie. Primarily over a bump to bump or a hip. Seems like it should be pretty straight forward but every time I've tried it I feel like I'm going to break my board or I just do a really lame ollie.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: Monkey_Mcpott on February 01, 2018, 02:20:16 PM
Fucking regular pop shuv its!! I can pop switch ones easily and pretty high.  The second I try regular ones it spins like a varial. Is hard for me to level it. And if I do it itís like 50/50 chance Iím going to land it. Primos are very common for me if I over think it. I always admired garret hills pop shuv.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: shit_for_brains on February 02, 2018, 01:09:44 PM
Fucking regular pop shuv its!! I can pop switch ones easily and pretty high.  The second I try regular ones it spins like a varial. Is hard for me to level it. And if I do it itís like 50/50 chance Iím going to land it. Primos are very common for me if I over think it. I always admired garret hills pop shuv.

Me too so I just decided fuck that trick. We always want what we can't have but I will not stress over that stupid trick.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: JAesop on February 02, 2018, 02:53:18 PM
Fucking regular pop shuv its!! I can pop switch ones easily and pretty high.  The second I try regular ones it spins like a varial. Is hard for me to level it. And if I do it itís like 50/50 chance Iím going to land it. Primos are very common for me if I over think it. I always admired garret hills pop shuv.

Me too so I just decided fuck that trick. We always want what we can't have but I will not stress over that stupid trick.

These dudes will cure what ails ya'...
http://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLj05sUrypM2wsUBYCqOik7YPZ1y_l8pYN&v=cS6AJ_rPzHM

Seriously, best how to series.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: finecojeffe on February 05, 2018, 08:45:11 AM
nose manny. Can't do them at all.

Lost pop shuv's too...they do the same as mentioned above. Switch is fine, fs fine as well, but reg shuv's are asking for primo landings.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: ChuckRamone on February 05, 2018, 12:38:27 PM
for pop shove its, put your front foot more like for an ollie than a kickflip and you shouldnít primo.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: VHS ERA on February 05, 2018, 01:35:33 PM
tips on frontide flips? the ones where you spin it out
and do not revert/pivot it on flat after > 90 degrees?


this is going to sound weird but I started getting those a lot more after I started setting up for them the way I normally set up for 360 flips, big toe on the pocket, face where you're going then open your shoulders as you pop.

If it works for you great, but that is definitely a weird FS flip setup
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: FrenchFriedClownFingers on February 18, 2018, 10:23:46 PM
i'm having trouble getting f/s and b/s 360s to fully rotate, any advice?
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: planman on February 19, 2018, 12:11:29 AM
i'm having trouble getting f/s and b/s 360s to fully rotate, any advice?
Seconded for front 3s, really wanna learn them

Uhh how the fuck are you supposed to back 50-50?
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: silhouette on February 19, 2018, 03:07:01 AM
FrenchFriedClownFingers for backside 360 ollies just have your big toe hang off the tail before you pop (as much as, maybe more than you would for a 360 flip). then you throw your shoulders into the spin, pop with the right timing and your back foot should do all the work, guiding the board around with you not too unlike it would control an impossible. the technique has nothing to do with normal backside 180's where you actually ollie then turn, here you just spin and scoop. the shoulder part is a bitch to learn and you may end up landing short of 90 degrees, slipping out and eating shit before you figure it out. maybe if you do enough backside 360 no-complies that will help.

I suck at frontside ones (except switch - classic) but the few satisfying ones I've done, I remember I was mentally breaking it down into two parts, like scooped frontside 180 late frontside 180 (if that makes sense), in order to force myself to get the shoulders part right. it's a beautiful trick, I should put some time into really trying to learn it properly. watch Donny Barley, Donger, Sheffey, Wray.

tips on frontide flips? the ones where you spin it out
and do not revert/pivot it on flat after > 90 degrees?


this is going to sound weird but I started getting those a lot more after I started setting up for them the way I normally set up for 360 flips, big toe on the pocket, face where you're going then open your shoulders as you pop.

If it works for you great, but that is definitely a weird FS flip setup

there's no denying that. my whole life is set up weird. every frontside flip I pop I try really hard to pretend I'm PJ Ladd in WHL mid-line on the road amid the traffic, but of course that never works and eventually I just witness myself flop around and occasionally pivot on the nose.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: spanyard on February 19, 2018, 10:15:02 AM
Smacking your tail down after an ollie. Primarily over a bump to bump or a hip. Seems like it should be pretty straight forward but every time I've tried it I feel like I'm going to break my board or I just do a really lame ollie.

^This please. Any time I try ollie anything on bumps, hips, skateparks, etc., I'm looking more limp and flaccid than what Stormy Daniels witnesses every time she visits a Trump Tower exec suite.

Are you supposed to pump up the start of the incline like you would on a quarter/park transition? Should you be crouching at the beginning of the incline and quickly popping up at the top? Or "scooping" the tail out? Or should you be completely straight-legged while riding up the incline then popping up and sucking up your knees?

This shit torments me to no end.

Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: behavioralguide on February 22, 2018, 04:07:47 AM
Smacking your tail down after an ollie. Primarily over a bump to bump or a hip. Seems like it should be pretty straight forward but every time I've tried it I feel like I'm going to break my board or I just do a really lame ollie.

practice one footers where you dont just ollie and then lift, but really kick them out from the start (like a kickflip/heelflip without a flip) and then when you fuck up and dont 'one foot' but just kinda bone it by accident the smacking almost always happens, then just refine that motion.

oh and dont stomp, but i think the one footer tactic kind of requires finesse or lightfootedness so that might be why it worked for me
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: AitchBeeGayBuh on February 22, 2018, 05:52:16 PM
Nosebluntslides from the side of the ledge, can do em rollin straight at it but whenever I try em from the side I either miss it completely or if I actually get into it I'm leaning too far forward and jump off...

Weirdly enough I'm really good at FS nosegrinds but it pisses me off that I can't tweak it just that little bit more to get it on a noseblunt.

Can't even comprehend how to pop outta that shit in the middle of the ledge too. Templeton makes it look so easy.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: Pigeon on February 23, 2018, 01:27:41 AM
Some hooker tried to lure me into a strip club in North Beach and she didnít know who Evan Smith was...why was she wearing those shoes and who gave them to her?
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: MC3 on February 25, 2018, 04:18:59 PM
popping out of boardslides in the middle of a double sided-ledge. (think tall curb)

I've tried to slam the tail and throw my shoulders but I hang up every time or the tail hits the ground and stops immediately...
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: planman on February 26, 2018, 09:25:48 AM
Some hooker tried to lure me into a strip club in North Beach and she didnít know who Evan Smith was...why was she wearing those shoes and who gave them to her?
+1
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: silhouette on February 26, 2018, 10:29:04 AM
popping out of boardslides in the middle of a double sided-ledge. (think tall curb)

I've tried to slam the tail and throw my shoulders but I hang up every time or the tail hits the ground and stops immediately...

pop off and come back to the side you came from to land, or transfer over ? I find that those motions are more in the hips than they are in the shoulders (although your line of thinking isn't wrong seeing as a lot of skateboarding actually has to do with the shoulders)
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: MC3 on February 26, 2018, 05:41:45 PM
popping out of boardslides in the middle of a double sided-ledge. (think tall curb)

I've tried to slam the tail and throw my shoulders but I hang up every time or the tail hits the ground and stops immediately...

pop off and come back to the side you came from to land, or transfer over ? I find that those motions are more in the hips than they are in the shoulders (although your line of thinking isn't wrong seeing as a lot of skateboarding actually has to do with the shoulders)

Same Side, and are you saying like thrust your hips (lol) to the side you wanna come out of?
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: streetsoup on February 28, 2018, 12:26:03 PM
360flips forever
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: silhouette on February 28, 2018, 01:57:59 PM
popping out of boardslides in the middle of a double sided-ledge. (think tall curb)

I've tried to slam the tail and throw my shoulders but I hang up every time or the tail hits the ground and stops immediately...

pop off and come back to the side you came from to land, or transfer over ? I find that those motions are more in the hips than they are in the shoulders (although your line of thinking isn't wrong seeing as a lot of skateboarding actually has to do with the shoulders)

Same Side, and are you saying like thrust your hips (lol) to the side you wanna come out of?

more like, never really move your upper body / shoulders if you're going to try to pop out early, even as you're ollieing into the boardslide, keep having them facing the direction you're going (more than usual at least) and do the boardslide motion with your lower body / hips only, if that makes sense. keep looking towards where you're heading, pretty much. that should eliminate unnecessary motions when the time comes to pop out because your upper body is ready to roll away already, basically. and yeah the dismount is in your hips, you have to turn them back around similarly to how you would to come out of rock and roll on tranny just with an extra snap, you have to be quick- and light-footed and pop a sort of small ollie out of it. the longer the slide the harder to control the dismount is, because you lose the momentum and reactivity. love doing those frontside.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: fang on March 01, 2018, 06:43:18 AM
360 flips. I'll have to do 150 to land a decent one, then I only have it for a day. Then repeat. So I basically don't do them any more. I could do them decently before boards were popsicles. H-street days no problem. Also add that my ankles have been destroyed since then. But love the trick, can't do em
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: dirtyweemidden on March 01, 2018, 06:47:55 AM
popping out of boardslides in the middle of a double sided-ledge. (think tall curb)

I've tried to slam the tail and throw my shoulders but I hang up every time or the tail hits the ground and stops immediately...

pop off and come back to the side you came from to land, or transfer over ? I find that those motions are more in the hips than they are in the shoulders (although your line of thinking isn't wrong seeing as a lot of skateboarding actually has to do with the shoulders)

Same Side, and are you saying like thrust your hips (lol) to the side you wanna come out of?

more like, never really move your upper body / shoulders if you're going to try to pop out early, even as you're ollieing into the boardslide, keep having them facing the direction you're going (more than usual at least) and do the boardslide motion with your lower body / hips only, if that makes sense. keep looking towards where you're heading, pretty much. that should eliminate unnecessary motions when the time comes to pop out because your upper body is ready to roll away already, basically. and yeah the dismount is in your hips, you have to turn them back around similarly to how you would to come out of rock and roll on tranny just with an extra snap, you have to be quick- and light-footed and pop a sort of small ollie out of it. the longer the slide the harder to control the dismount is, because you lose the momentum and reactivity. love doing those frontside.

I think of doing a really exagerated rock n roll on tranny, it seems to help
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: planman on March 01, 2018, 06:52:06 AM
360 flips. I'll have to do 150 to land a decent one, then I only have it for a day. Then repeat. So I basically don't do them any more. I could do them decently before boards were popsicles. H-street days no problem. Also add that my ankles have been destroyed since then. But love the trick, can't do em
Go buy a 10 inch board and 3 flip to your heart's content.


I know it hasn't been mentioned in a while, but for those having trouble with heelflips, don't try kicking out. Hang your toes off the board about an inch and then pop an ollie. Your board will do the rest for you.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: streetsoup on March 01, 2018, 04:42:12 PM
Back tails. Have to do them like every session to keep them.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: planman on March 05, 2018, 08:49:35 AM
Noseslides. Can't even do them the cheater way, just doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: Willie on March 05, 2018, 11:34:49 AM
Again not quite basic but I've never landed a blunt fakie or pivot fakie in 30 years of skating. I think the problem might be being too poosey.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: gollum mcjinglemeballs on March 05, 2018, 03:10:26 PM
Noseslides. Can't even do them the cheater way, just doesn't make sense.


I never really tried to do a regular nose slides for my first twenties years of skating. I'd seen one too many shitty slappy nose slides in the early nineties and just wrote them off as not worth the effort.  About a year ago I started trying them again. My advice is to think of them as a middle ground between a crooked and a 180 nose grind.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: planman on March 05, 2018, 07:29:45 PM
Noseslides. Can't even do them the cheater way, just doesn't make sense.


I never really tried to do a regular nose slides for my first twenties years of skating. I'd seen one too many shitty slappy nose slides in the early nineties and just wrote them off as not worth the effort.  About a year ago I started trying them again. My advice is to think of them as a middle ground between a crooked and a 180 nose grind.
Nice, two other tricks I can't do. Never learned crooks because I always heard you had to learn noseslides first. Never tried a front 180 nosegrind before though, maybe I'll give those a whirl?
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: Baron Samedi on March 06, 2018, 02:50:13 PM
Not that it makes you a bad skateboarder or anything, but I'm baffled that there's something someone can't figure out about a noseslide. To be fair, this is coming from someone who was skating for 10 years before I learned how to axle stall on transition so I get that some tricks just don't click for certain people.

Sounds stupid, but can you just ride straight at a ledge and do a nosestall? I'd start with that and then do the same thing but start from a very slight angle, and then more of an angle, and so on and so forth until you can do the 90 degree ollie onto the nosestall starting parallel to the ledge. Once you can do that, you shouldn't have any problem sliding them.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: streetsoup on March 06, 2018, 05:15:20 PM
Noseslides. Can't even do them the cheater way, just doesn't make sense.


I never really tried to do a regular nose slides for my first twenties years of skating. I'd seen one too many shitty slappy nose slides in the early nineties and just wrote them off as not worth the effort.  About a year ago I started trying them again. My advice is to think of them as a middle ground between a crooked and a 180 nose grind.

This is still true. This trick is unsatisfying and not even cool. Not worth it haha.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: streetsoup on March 06, 2018, 05:16:15 PM
I do like seeing them on freakishly large hubbas though where any other trick wouldn't be feasible.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on March 06, 2018, 06:40:27 PM
Not that it makes you a bad skateboarder or anything, but I'm baffled that there's something someone can't figure out about a noseslide. To be fair, this is coming from someone who was skating for 10 years before I learned how to axle stall on transition so I get that some tricks just don't click for certain people.

Sounds stupid, but can you just ride straight at a ledge and do a nosestall? I'd start with that and then do the same thing but start from a very slight angle, and then more of an angle, and so on and so forth until you can do the 90 degree ollie onto the nosestall starting parallel to the ledge. Once you can do that, you shouldn't have any problem sliding them.
slappy/ sloppy ones are easy but I actually struggle with them (backside) on medium sized ledges for some reason. funny that they seem easy on ledges you could probably never normally skate
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: ChuckRamone on March 06, 2018, 08:40:30 PM
frontside rock and rolls. that is a fucked up feeling trick.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: Hash Slinging Slasher on March 07, 2018, 06:11:21 AM
how do i stop my body and shoulders form opening up doing kickflips?? feels like i'd have to look backwards or something for it to ever work
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: Olabade on March 07, 2018, 07:29:56 AM
how do i stop my body and shoulders form opening up doing kickflips?? feels like i'd have to look backwards or something for it to ever work

Focus on where you look. After popping look straight down on your board (literally the middle of your board). If you look where you flick (which should be diagonally off the nose and up) your shoulders naturally turn frontside following your head and eye movement.

Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: Willie on March 07, 2018, 07:54:15 AM
frontside rock and rolls. that is a fucked up feeling trick.


Easier to learn on small tight stuff. Feels terrible on mellow transition.

Your shoulders should be finished with the trick before the board starts it.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: 99Pancakes on March 16, 2018, 09:15:21 AM
Again not quite basic but I've never landed a blunt fakie or pivot fakie in 30 years of skating. I think the problem might be being too poosey.

This self-diagnosis is 100% correct. Don't be poosey.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: streetsoup on March 16, 2018, 05:07:01 PM
switch and nollie flips. Don't think ill ever train my body to figure these outs. My switch flick is fucked.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: the_unknown_soldier on March 16, 2018, 08:51:20 PM
Noseslides. Can't even do them the cheater way, just doesn't make sense.


I never really tried to do a regular nose slides for my first twenties years of skating. I'd seen one too many shitty slappy nose slides in the early nineties and just wrote them off as not worth the effort.  About a year ago I started trying them again. My advice is to think of them as a middle ground between a crooked and a 180 nose grind.


I came in here to say almost the exact thing, haha. Noseslides have always felt super awkward to me, and I just sorta skipped 'em. I accept that I suck at ledge/skating in general, but this one always gets me flustered and embarrassed. But just tonight I tried them over and over and eventually got a few bullshit ones which is a huge step for me.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: dirtyweemidden on March 17, 2018, 03:51:40 AM
I have accepted that I will never do a nice looking heelflip. my leg just doesnt go that way.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: ChuckRamone on April 19, 2018, 08:54:56 PM
I have been working hard on backside tailslides lately. Iím back to where I was a long time ago when I tried learning this trick: I do an accidental suski grind before coming to a stop on the ledge. Today I did a suski grind to tail stall and rolled away which made me laugh self-pityingly while feeling kind of stoked at the same time. What do I need to do to get this trick? For starters I think I need to come more parallel to the ledge and at less of an angle. Any other tips would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: shit_for_brains on April 20, 2018, 05:32:27 AM
I have been working hard on backside tailslides lately. Iím back to where I was a long time ago when I tried learning this trick: I do an accidental suski grind before coming to a stop on the ledge. Today I did a suski grind to tail stall and rolled away which made me laugh self-pityingly while feeling kind of stoked at the same time. What do I need to do to get this trick? For starters I think I need to come more parallel to the ledge and at less of an angle. Any other tips would be greatly appreciated.

You aren't turning your hips enough. You can get into a bs tail from any angle you're comfortable with if you turn enough. When you start slipping out is when you know you're real close to the ones you can sit on and it makes the noise and everything. It feels like it, but you aren't going to overturn and end up in a switch fs crook position. Swing them hips.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: ChuckRamone on April 20, 2018, 06:26:37 AM
I have been working hard on backside tailslides lately. Iím back to where I was a long time ago when I tried learning this trick: I do an accidental suski grind before coming to a stop on the ledge. Today I did a suski grind to tail stall and rolled away which made me laugh self-pityingly while feeling kind of stoked at the same time. What do I need to do to get this trick? For starters I think I need to come more parallel to the ledge and at less of an angle. Any other tips would be greatly appreciated.

You aren't turning your hips enough. You can get into a bs tail from any angle you're comfortable with if you turn enough. When you start slipping out is when you know you're real close to the ones you can sit on and it makes the noise and everything. It feels like it, but you aren't going to overturn and end up in a switch fs crook position. Swing them hips.

thanks. will try this next time.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: silhouette on April 20, 2018, 06:41:08 AM
switch and nollie flips. Don't think ill ever train my body to figure these outs. My switch flick is fucked.

switch and nollie flips are tough to learn by definition - everybody seems to really struggle with the switch flick at first, but once it finally clicks, you just got yourself two new great tricks. I know what it's like to postpone learning a trick that doesn't naturally come to you, and you just can't form to the point where just the mere thought of trying it feels like a waste of skate time already (I'm the same with many, including the aforementioned backside tailslide). but I'd say those two are worth it.

just try them on and off. start with the switch flip (the easiest of the two if you're just trying to figure your switch flick out), and basically trick your brain into thinking it's a normal stance kickflip. blank the switch part out on purpose and just try mimicking your regular stance motion. since you can already kickflip, from then on it should be dead easy to figure out what you're doing wrong and work on that. think of it as learning how to do a basic kickflip again, just from an uncomfortable stance. the dreaded myth of the almighty switch kickflip is just a mental construction, it's just a kickflip. just grip the board as usual and use your ankle. try maybe 5 a day or every other day, see how close you can get. keep it fun and you'll get in on lock eventually, try it at the end of your lines once it starts coming together, casual stuff like that. then the nollie flip will come by itself.

it took me years to finally learn nollie and switch flips and by then I could already do a bunch of nollie flip and heel flip variations, just not the straight, normal nollie / sw flips. I know the struggle, just saying. but once you get it down it becomes a simple and very fun trick you just can't help but do all the time, pretending you're Keenan or PJ when you really aren't.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: Michnich191 on April 20, 2018, 07:17:50 PM
I have been working hard on backside tailslides lately. Iím back to where I was a long time ago when I tried learning this trick: I do an accidental suski grind before coming to a stop on the ledge. Today I did a suski grind to tail stall and rolled away which made me laugh self-pityingly while feeling kind of stoked at the same time. What do I need to do to get this trick? For starters I think I need to come more parallel to the ledge and at less of an angle. Any other tips would be greatly appreciated.

You aren't turning your hips enough. You can get into a bs tail from any angle you're comfortable with if you turn enough. When you start slipping out is when you know you're real close to the ones you can sit on and it makes the noise and everything. It feels like it, but you aren't going to overturn and end up in a switch fs crook position. Swing them hips.

When I learned them I just went to fakie and slide 6in or so, which is easier at first now I can't really go fakie. Super frustrating to learn but once you learn them theyre not bad.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: tzhangdox on April 23, 2018, 02:42:31 PM
^ any tips on getting back tails to regular? Finally figured them out to fakie, needs more work, but can't do them to regs to save my life, I don't seem to physically be able to whip my lower body around enough to prevent my wheel from jamming whilst still looking forwards.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: straight on April 23, 2018, 04:10:34 PM
i can pop a really nice nollie heel .. but every 1/5 tries of them, it wonít pop and the nose will stay grounded and ill jump in the air two feet .. itís the most demoralizing feeling . then i have to look around to make sure nobody saw
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: shit_for_brains on April 24, 2018, 08:48:41 AM
^ any tips on getting back tails to regular? Finally figured them out to fakie, needs more work, but can't do them to regs to save my life, I don't seem to physically be able to whip my lower body around enough to prevent my wheel from jamming whilst still looking forwards.

Your brain and nerves will tell you you're turning out enough, but you aren't. Over swing like you're in a cartoon. You won't over turn I promise.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: doublesteveburger on April 24, 2018, 11:09:12 AM
Will someone please properly explain to this retarded pile of meat how to properly get into a backside smith-grind?

I can only do those ones that don't dip and grind no longer than a cunt-hair.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: Michnich191 on April 24, 2018, 01:43:47 PM
^ any tips on getting back tails to regular? Finally figured them out to fakie, needs more work, but can't do them to regs to save my life, I don't seem to physically be able to whip my lower body around enough to prevent my wheel from jamming whilst still looking forwards.

Your brain and nerves will tell you you're turning out enough, but you aren't. Over swing like you're in a cartoon. You won't over turn I promise.

I find its the front shoulder/arm, keep it turned out almost looking over your shoulder type position. If that doesn't work just shuv out some days I find that easier.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: planman on April 25, 2018, 12:59:36 PM
This is kind of embarrassing but i can't land heelflips for shit. i started skating a couple of years ago but spent more time on ledge and trying the weirder tricks like wallies, polejams, slappies.
I've landed a few but now that im trying to get them properly down i always land with my front foot in front of the nose and i cant fix it. I can flip them every try but my front foot just won't land it.

I really fell for skating even though i discovered it kind of late (when i was 16), so its really getting me down that i dont have a flip trick yet. Thanks for any advice you might have. x
 
Never had this problem, but like I've said before in this thread, don't think of it like a heel. Do an ollie except hang the toes on your front foot off the board a little. It should work itself out.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: GardenSkater77 on April 26, 2018, 03:53:11 PM
Will someone please properly explain to this retarded pile of meat how to properly get into a backside smith-grind?

I can only do those ones that don't dip and grind no longer than a cunt-hair.

I used to be good at both back side lip slides and back side smiths on ledges. Never learned front side of either very well--always more of a back side guy. When you do a back smith pretend you are going to do a back lip, but instead of turning 90 degrees just stop at whatever you need to get your back trucks on and front trucks on the side of the ledge. Also, do the ollie like a back-side shifty and land on the ledge with your front leg straight in mid shifty. The higher you ollie the less you will grind this trick when you land. If you land in the shifty pose you will grind well. If your question is for ramp I have no idea as I don't do the Monty grind. Hope this helps. I got excited cause I really liked this trick once upon a time. Maybe I will try it next time I skate the box at my local skate-lite park. Oh the horror...
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: redcurb12 on May 09, 2018, 03:25:01 PM
nollie flips damn it and it makes me sad
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: streetsoup on May 09, 2018, 03:53:57 PM
nollie flips damn it and it makes me sad

All the dudes in my crew can nollie flip but me  :-\
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: tzhangdox on May 09, 2018, 05:10:31 PM
nollie flips damn it and it makes me sad

All the dudes in my crew can nollie flip but me  :-\

^Same haha. I swear its literally impossible.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: streetsoup on May 09, 2018, 05:17:11 PM
Switch pop shuvs.
Halfcab flips.
any switch or nollie flip.
Forever 3flips.
mydicks.
bs heels.
180 sw manuals.
Front feebles and crooks.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: shit_for_brains on May 09, 2018, 08:47:44 PM
Switch pop shuvs.
Halfcab flips.
any switch or nollie flip.
Forever 3flips.
mydicks.
bs heels.
180 sw manuals.
Front feebles and crooks.

Kick down not out
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: AitchBeeGayBuh on May 09, 2018, 11:00:54 PM
nollie flips damn it and it makes me sad
There's still hope. Always had a good nollie bs flip forever but couldn't do a regular nollie flip for my life until recently. Was always envious of homies or littles kids who had em on lock. Learned em finally at age 34/35 pretty good. Could do em at the end of lines but not doin em over a gap or down stairs or anything. As far as basic ass tricks that piss me off? Always wanted to but never landed or even locked into a frontside half cab noseslide on anything, always wanted to do a really good one...
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on May 09, 2018, 11:05:13 PM
sounds weird but think of it as a switch nollie back tail

Confession: I can only do them on tiny curbs
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: Mark Renton on May 10, 2018, 04:39:42 AM
Still 3flips.. at this point I can land them nollie but not regular. I can't make my front foot do the scoop-drag motion. I land with only the back foot on or both feet on the nose haha it's so frustrating.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: Trashcon on May 15, 2018, 08:13:48 PM
Ollie north, never been able to do them. At 30 years old and on the board for 16, I can say I've landed probably like 5. My friends do them with ease, while I'm over here sweating bullets trying.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: silhouette on May 16, 2018, 05:06:02 AM
Ollie north, never been able to do them. At 30 years old and on the board for 16, I can say I've landed probably like 5. My friends do them with ease, while I'm over here sweating bullets trying.

think of it as a kickflip without the ankle flick. you ollie then kick straight off the nose, really like you would for a good kickflip but you don't use your ankle, you keep your foot stiff and solid. back foot on the board controls it by keeping it flat, to prevent flippage but really like it would for a normal ollie so you don't think about it.

Mark Renton's problem on 360 flips has to be upper body-related. if you land in front of the board, you're leaning forwards too much. upper body should be straight, perpendicular to the ground - don't bend like you're looking over your nose, sit on that back leg instead. you pop and scoop with the big toe on your back foot, over the edge. shoulders facing where you're going and you never move them or the board will fly out of control. really try using the pop too so they don't look too flat or varial kickflippish. then don't turn your hips either and aim for the bolts (sounds dumb but for this trick it really works). if you keep landing in front of the nose, try leaning back more. if (like me) you're not a natural at that trick then yes it can get frustrating, but it's really worth it when you get it down. I know I've always refused to learn it without the pop, like most kids do them (which seems to enable them to do them super easily, but personally I've never liked that look, I kind of like the struggle on those).
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: Mark Renton on May 18, 2018, 01:58:26 AM
I landed a few yesterday. I think I was messing up:
- back foot placement, toes needed to be more on the tail
- shoulders needed to be parallel

It might have been the slippery ground and/or the new bushings (realized I was skating with exploded ones) but I'm stoked. First 3flips in years!
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: silhouette on May 18, 2018, 02:13:03 AM
that's funny you just got them back after you changed your bushings because coincidentally I just changed mine too and got flatground switch 360 flips back yesterday too (hadn't done a good one in maybe 14 years not counting flatbanks, on which they are easier), also on slippery ground but that's a start. back foot placement is key. I also just very recently understood how crucial guiding your tail around with your big toe throughout the whole pop was, in a way that feels almost like an impossible rather than a pop shove-it if that makes sense. makes the concave stick to the front foot so you can get the flip a lot better.

Kalis just posted a clip of a dude doing one with super exaggerated back foot action on IG, it starts off looking silly then he gets mad pop and good form out of it, it's crazy:

https://instagram.com/p/Bi3Lp-NlikF/
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: ChuckRamone on May 22, 2018, 10:38:14 AM
how close to the ledge are you supposed to be for backside tailslides on the approach? I keep landing on top of the ledge with either half my truck or both wheels. I donít know if I need to approach from further away or turn it differently in the air. some people look really close as they approach.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: shit_for_brains on May 22, 2018, 11:07:23 AM
how close to the ledge are you supposed to be for backside tailslides on the approach? I keep landing on top of the ledge with either half my truck or both wheels. I donít know if I need to approach from further away or turn it differently in the air. some people look really close as they approach.

Depends on how you approach it. If you come at an angle and swing into it you're going to want to be farther away. Your problem sounds like you're riding pretty parallel with it and you do your turning in the air, so you want to be close but not close enough to land like you are. Getting your wheels on top also comes from combining the two approaches where you ride parallel and swing, or come at an angle and ollie straight. You have to pick one. I'd say keep doing what you're doing but play around with how far from the ledge you should be. It's a matter of like halves of inches.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: ogbawtawd on May 22, 2018, 03:23:52 PM
Backside flip, I neverd rolled away, I can Bs 180 all day but not with the flip.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: redcurb12 on May 23, 2018, 03:04:56 PM
man i suck at feeble grinds
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: Double Pegasus on May 27, 2018, 03:20:46 PM
that's funny you just got them back after you changed your bushings because coincidentally I just changed mine too and got flatground switch 360 flips back yesterday too (hadn't done a good one in maybe 14 years not counting flatbanks, on which they are easier), also on slippery ground but that's a start. back foot placement is key. I also just very recently understood how crucial guiding your tail around with your big toe throughout the whole pop was, in a way that feels almost like an impossible rather than a pop shove-it if that makes sense. makes the concave stick to the front foot so you can get the flip a lot better.

Kalis just posted a clip of a dude doing one with super exaggerated back foot action on IG, it starts off looking silly then he gets mad pop and good form out of it, it's crazy:

https://instagram.com/p/Bi3Lp-NlikF/

really appreciate this kind of super in depth discussion about the actual act of skating, great tip on the switch tre
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: SneakySecrets on May 30, 2018, 06:06:51 AM
Front shove-it.  I used to do them where I had to jump backward towards my heels like 4 feet, which just looks so nauseatingly atrocious that I refuse to ever do one like that ever again.

Iíve been trying to land a nice one that stays under me for about a year and have not landed a single one.  I can do a fair amount of flip tricks but something about the back foot motion is so mysterious and baffling.  The whole pop-straight-toe-push thing is so simple, yet I struggle with it.

Recently Iíve got the motion dialed-in and I keep the board under me but my back foot simply refuses to get back on the board.  So now I have to somehow confront the reality that at a very deep, subconscious level I am too big of a pussy to land a front shuvit on flat.  Itís humiliating and enraging beyond belief, haha.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: silhouette on May 30, 2018, 11:52:26 AM
Front shove-it.  I used to do them where I had to jump backward towards my heels like 4 feet, which just looks so nauseatingly atrocious that I refuse to ever do one like that ever again.

Iíve been trying to land a nice one that stays under me for about a year and have not landed a single one.  I can do a fair amount of flip tricks but something about the back foot motion is so mysterious and baffling.  The whole pop-straight-toe-push thing is so simple, yet I struggle with it.

Recently Iíve got the motion dialed-in and I keep the board under me but my back foot simply refuses to get back on the board.  So now I have to somehow confront the reality that at a very deep, subconscious level I am too big of a pussy to land a front shuvit on flat.  Itís humiliating and enraging beyond belief, haha.

don't scoop for front shoves, although the way the trick works on paper makes it sound like you should, the scoop on those is a waste of energy and balance. just pop straight down, super hard and the board will spring right up till it meets your front foot for the catch. that's how I've fine-tuned mine over time at least and honestly I think that's how I can make them look the most proper; plus it's practical too because then you can occasionally get some stupid high ones with that technique. it's really just brute force then front foot catch. the board will be more prone to try and flip though, so you might land primo occasionally at first when you're figuring it out.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: SneakySecrets on May 30, 2018, 11:59:49 AM
If you pop straight down, how does it start rotating frontside?
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: silhouette on May 30, 2018, 12:05:35 PM
I guess due to the initial foot positioning? back foot in the pocket should be enough to throw the axis off. just have your big toe in the right spot. front foot doesn't move, you just suck your leg up and the board will come around and meet it. also kind of sit back like you would for a heelflip and make sure to keep your upper body straight and centered the whole time so you stay in control.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: SneakySecrets on May 30, 2018, 12:09:48 PM
Going to put some time in today on them.  Hopefully your method works.  Canít wait to finally figure these things out.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: GardenSkater77 on May 30, 2018, 09:05:31 PM
I just learned FS shuvits. I find that it is a trick you don't need to pop. I like to shuffle this trick. Try to pop off the nose as the tail. That seems to be easier than off the tail. Set up with your front foot in heel flip position. Back foot toe should be in the middle of the tail (nose in tail position). When you pop don't jump high. Instead, push you back foot sideways and slightly forward on the pop and grab the tail of the board as quickly as possible with your back foot. Your front foot should already be on your board if shuffled properly. Watch old Rick Howard videos as he has a nonchalant front side shuvit. It's the ultimate steezy trick. Recently I moved my deck size from 8" to 8.5" and it made FS shuvits easier to perform. Makes the board less likely to flip.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: planman on June 05, 2018, 06:29:47 PM
Not sure if it helps but I find front shuvs to be easier when you don't think or care about it, and just kinda do it
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: Jollyoli on June 06, 2018, 01:46:24 AM
Not sure if it helps but I find front shuvs skateboarding to be easier when you don't think or care about it, and just kinda do it
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: rEVOLVED on June 08, 2018, 02:17:30 PM
Ollie. Yup, I said it! Just got back on the board after almost a decade off. I can get up curbs and ledges, and even ollie manual some little pads, but if I'm just rolling around ollieing for fun, it looks like shit right now. Can't wait to clean it up.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: SneakySecrets on June 12, 2018, 09:18:21 AM
Ollie. Yup, I said it! Just got back on the board after almost a decade off. I can get up curbs and ledges, and even ollie manual some little pads, but if I'm just rolling around ollieing for fun, it looks like shit right now. Can't wait to clean it up.


I went through the exact same thing.  Was off the board for about 10 years also, something that I regret everyday.   It was embarrassing at first (and sometimes still is) but itís been equally fun and frustrating getting all my tricks back.

Itís interesting now that Iím older and have more patience so I am cleaning up lots of old bad habits with tricks and learning brand new ones. 

I remember being shocked that 7.75 is now considered really small and 7.5s are almost nonexistent
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: HangtenNoseblunt on June 15, 2018, 06:30:08 AM
regular front shuv
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Post by: Skate_lurker_Rob on June 18, 2018, 01:33:17 PM
bs 180's I want mine to look sick but they look hurting when filmed
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: FS-OverKOOK on June 19, 2018, 03:57:10 PM
regular front shuv
Same here. I stopped trying a long time ago on these. but backside is my bread and butter regs/switch.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: SneakySecrets on June 20, 2018, 09:38:59 AM
regular front shuv
Same here. I stopped trying a long time ago on these. but backside is my bread and butter regs/switch.

Itís so nice not being the only one.  We should start a front shove support group.  I have sunk so many hours upon hours upon hours upon hours, ad infinititum trying to land that stupid fucking trick. 
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: VHS ERA on June 27, 2018, 06:58:31 PM
Not the most basic but someone please tell me how the fuck a smith grind works. I would like to do one before i die and Iím already 30.

I can occasionally get into them but then my body weight just pushes the nose down to the ground and then itís over
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: VHS ERA on June 27, 2018, 07:00:06 PM
Ollie. Yup, I said it! Just got back on the board after almost a decade off. I can get up curbs and ledges, and even ollie manual some little pads, but if I'm just rolling around ollieing for fun, it looks like shit right now. Can't wait to clean it up.


I went through the exact same thing.  Was off the board for about 10 years also, something that I regret everyday.   It was embarrassing at first (and sometimes still is) but itís been equally fun and frustrating getting all my tricks back.

Itís interesting now that Iím older and have more patience so I am cleaning up lots of old bad habits with tricks and learning brand new ones. 

I remember being shocked that 7.75 is now considered really small and 7.5s are almost nonexistent

Lol I quit for 6 years and learning all that has changed was a trip
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: SUPREMENECKPROTECTOR on June 29, 2018, 04:34:27 AM
Not the most basic but someone please tell me how the fuck a smith grind works. I would like to do one before i die and Iím already 30.

I can occasionally get into them but then my body weight just pushes the nose down to the ground and then itís over

Can you do 5-0s? They are similar in that all the weight lies on the backfoot. Having your weight evenly distributed will make you push the nose down. Ollieing too high into the grind will also make you stick and push the nose down. For smithgrinds you also have to lean back and push the grind.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: shit_for_brains on June 29, 2018, 06:55:40 AM
^ this guy has it. Lean back enough to where if you goof it you'll go into lipslide and push it in front of you, rather than dumping it below you and sticking forward.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: cosmicgypsies on June 30, 2018, 01:09:45 PM
water fire air and earth fuckin layback grinds how do they work
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: bestchester on July 02, 2018, 02:19:16 PM
bs pop shove. i can do bs shuvs with no pop and front shoves no problem, but bs shove with pop makes no sense to me. i guess i don't really understand how to get a clean pop that will send the board upwards but spin it at the same time. someone please help
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: SneakySecrets on July 03, 2018, 05:25:24 AM
Iím the exact opposite.  I just startes being able to land nice front shoves that stay under me.  The only way I can think to describe the motion for bs shoves is to combine the non-popped motion with the pop youíd give an Ollie.  Sort of a 45 degree pop towards your heel side.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: feedmeseymour on July 03, 2018, 12:10:14 PM
heelflips, so hard. switch or nollie no problem though.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: SUPREMENECKPROTECTOR on July 03, 2018, 12:12:04 PM
bs pop shove. i can do bs shuvs with no pop and front shoves no problem, but bs shove with pop makes no sense to me. i guess i don't really understand how to get a clean pop that will send the board upwards but spin it at the same time. someone please help

I suspect you learned them not too long ago and are almost clawing the toeside of the tail? I also suspect that the board flips when you try to do a popped one? If that is the case I think your backfoot is in the wrong position. You have to put it in the center of the tail.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: bestchester on July 03, 2018, 02:42:18 PM
bs pop shove. i can do bs shuvs with no pop and front shoves no problem, but bs shove with pop makes no sense to me. i guess i don't really understand how to get a clean pop that will send the board upwards but spin it at the same time. someone please help

I suspect you learned them not too long ago and are almost clawing the toeside of the tail? I also suspect that the board flips when you try to do a popped one? If that is the case I think your backfoot is in the wrong position. You have to put it in the center of the tail.

bingo

going to try this next time i skate, you're a hero
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: SneakySecrets on July 03, 2018, 02:43:31 PM
heelflips, so hard. switch or nollie no problem though.

I was trying both last night and felt completely lost  :'(
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: shit_for_brains on July 04, 2018, 07:44:46 AM
I cannot switch or nollie heelflip to save my life. I've never really come close and I've been trying frequently for a long time. I'm a natural regular heelflipper with god awful kickflips, and I can do switch (and nollie I'm sorry) varial heels and nollie bs heels but not straight ones at all. Everyone else seems to be able to do them.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: Trashcon on July 05, 2018, 02:26:59 AM
Primos, too many near death experiences.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: silhouette on July 05, 2018, 08:41:26 AM
I cannot switch or nollie heelflip to save my life. I've never really come close and I've been trying frequently for a long time. I'm a natural regular heelflipper with god awful kickflips, and I can do switch (and nollie I'm sorry) varial heels and nollie bs heels but not straight ones at all. Everyone else seems to be able to do them.

probably has to do with your posture before you pop. open posture with shoulders and toes facing the direction you're going (if nollie; facing backwards if switch) equals switch (or nollie) varial heel. for a straight nollie heel, your shoulders should be parallel to the board and your feet perpendicular to its length, with more of them inside the concave than if you were trying it with the extra rotation. although uncommon looking, Mike Carroll's flatground nollie heel in the Chaos section of 411VM Best-Of 5 will give you the right idea (would post a link if my Internet wasn't being dumb right now). if anything, the straight ones have more similarities to frontside nollie heelflips than to backside ones if that makes sense; it's not uncommon to shifty them frontside at first (not unlike nollies with no flip). make sure you actually level that nollie out before you flick, too; nollie varial and backside heels you kick out almost as soon as you pop, nollie heels you don't (otherwise that's when they spring up your ass).
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: the snake on July 05, 2018, 08:59:27 AM
^I'm not good at nollie heel too, but switch heel works if I really bend my knees down, it gives the pop/time needed for it to flip

edit : maybe I should try the same approach for nollie heels, holy fuck ^^
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: tzhangdox on July 05, 2018, 10:23:49 AM
Been doing nollie/sw heels for years now, they're still awful, usually bounce off the ground. Nollie/sw inwards are so much easier. I have to skate with a brace so I don't think I can get the proper flick for a straight flip, but the inward version is more of a straight kick out so it works a bit better. Sucks though, would trade those any day for straight nollie/sw heels. Nollie bs/sw fs heels and sw v heels don't work either, cannot create the motion of that type of flip at all no matter how hard I try, you'd think those are easier than the inward motion(sw bs heel, nollie fs heel etc) too :/
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: SneakySecrets on July 05, 2018, 11:41:16 AM
I feel like I can sympathize with people with MS whenever I try a Millie or switch heel.  My body just literally will. Not.  Do.   It.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: shark tits on July 05, 2018, 11:47:25 AM
allemande left, an allemande right, come on you fuckin dummy get your right step right,
get off stage goddamn dude ya know! piss me off, fuckin jerk get on my nerves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX6ggRByE8g
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: shit_for_brains on July 05, 2018, 12:10:41 PM
I cannot switch or nollie heelflip to save my life. I've never really come close and I've been trying frequently for a long time. I'm a natural regular heelflipper with god awful kickflips, and I can do switch (and nollie I'm sorry) varial heels and nollie bs heels but not straight ones at all. Everyone else seems to be able to do them.

probably has to do with your posture before you pop. open posture with shoulders and toes facing the direction you're going (if nollie; facing backwards if switch) equals switch (or nollie) varial heel. for a straight nollie heel, your shoulders should be parallel to the board and your feet perpendicular to its length, with more of them inside the concave than if you were trying it with the extra rotation. although uncommon looking, Mike Carroll's flatground nollie heel in the Chaos section of 411VM Best-Of 5 will give you the right idea (would post a link if my Internet wasn't being dumb right now). if anything, the straight ones have more similarities to frontside nollie heelflips than to backside ones if that makes sense; it's not uncommon to shifty them frontside at first (not unlike nollies with no flip). make sure you actually level that nollie out before you flick, too; nollie varial and backside heels you kick out almost as soon as you pop, nollie heels you don't (otherwise that's when they spring up your ass).

The more I try to wait on the pop I always end up air balling, and if I do it before it's the most rocketed up-your-ass shit I've ever seen
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: botefdunn on July 05, 2018, 12:31:12 PM
Just learned sw heel decently in the past couple years, what finally did it for me was kicking my back foot out, it keeps the board straight and prevents it from going rocket. when i pop, my back foot leaves the tail and instead of coming straight up, i kick it out to the side, like on a front shov but without the scoop. It's basically a form if mental compensation that keeps my shoulders square to the board.

Anything big flip is my kryptonite.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: shingles on July 10, 2018, 12:53:35 AM
Backside Tailslides in Transition. Whenever I try one of them my body overrotates and does a backtail revert. Can't keep em straight
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: HangtenNoseblunt on July 11, 2018, 05:56:11 AM
for heelflips what helped me was hanging my foot off more for regular and hardly hanging it off at all for nollie

also i find it you angle your back foot kinda like a switchflip when you pop regular heelflip they suck up for your feet better
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: ChrisFrantz on July 12, 2018, 11:48:25 PM
Nollie flip/heel, switch heel (I know they're not too basic, but I feel like I should have them by now haha)
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: marty mcfly on July 15, 2018, 12:29:56 PM
When I was skating today I thought to myself:try some half cab flips...there was no way for me to land one!
the board lands behind me,every time I got
the rotation perfect!
When I tried to stay over the board I did some weird forward flip thing,or the board just flipped half way.
Itís weird,because Iím pretty good at backside flips.
Can someone help me with this problem?
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: HangtenNoseblunt on July 15, 2018, 12:35:19 PM
wind up more than you would with a backside flip and focus on the fakie flip
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: Rulla_lauta on July 16, 2018, 09:42:25 AM
Bs krooked..
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Post by: tzhangdox on July 16, 2018, 09:56:45 AM
tips on regs heelflips would be nice. ankles kinda fucked so can't kickflip, need an alternative.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: ungzilla on July 16, 2018, 10:38:06 AM
i think heelflips can be done in so many different ways. my way is front foot perfectly perpendicular, just behind bolts,  with toes hanging off so that my heel is flush with the backside edge of the board. back foot slightly towards the backside pocket of the tail. most weight distributed over front foot is the key part that prevents the classic rocket heelflip action. then it's all fucking with the timing and direction of the kick.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: calvinsdream on July 16, 2018, 11:37:57 AM
I can do front half cabs but not regular ones.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: planman on July 16, 2018, 11:54:41 PM
I can do front half cabs but not regular ones.
pivot when you're popping
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: calvinsdream on July 17, 2018, 07:34:15 AM
I can do front half cabs but not regular ones.
pivot when you're popping

Thanks! I'll give it a try.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: shit_for_brains on July 17, 2018, 09:56:44 AM
I can do front half cabs but not regular ones.
pivot when you're popping

Thanks! I'll give it a try.

Have your shoulders and head at 90 when you pop, and fully rotated 180 when your board is at 90
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: dpelevator on July 17, 2018, 10:18:28 AM
Back 360s plz. I tried the scoop suggestion like an impossible but my body doesnt come all the way around with it and it ends up like a bigspin and my board hits me in the ankles.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: somethingmustbreaknow on July 17, 2018, 10:19:20 AM
i do not know if that still is considered a basic ass trick,
but how can you do switch fs tailslides? it's beyond me
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: SneakySecrets on July 17, 2018, 11:45:01 AM
i do not know if that still is considered a basic ass trick,
but how can you do switch fs tailslides? it's beyond me

Youíre going to want to do a frontside tailslide but stand in the opposite stance than what you would normally ride in.  So if you are left foot forward (we call that Regz) you would ride with your right foot forward (known as goofy).  From there you want to pop, rotate 90 degrees like a frontside 180, but put your tail down and slide on the obstacle.

From there, just pop out and ride away clean.  Hope that helps.  Donít get frustrated and just have fun learning new tricks!
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: shit_for_brains on July 17, 2018, 12:36:05 PM
i do not know if that still is considered a basic ass trick,
but how can you do switch fs tailslides? it's beyond me

Start learning them coming at the ledge at a pretty big angle and swing a big ol switch frontside 180 at it. Once you get comfortable landing in them you can start adjusting your angle of approach to get better slides.
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Post by: somethingmustbreaknow on July 17, 2018, 01:08:46 PM
any tips on big ol' popped sw fs 180, sfb? much appreciated.
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Post by: shit_for_brains on July 17, 2018, 01:21:10 PM
any tips on big ol' popped sw fs 180, sfb? much appreciated.

Treat your shoulders and weight distribution like you're doing a halfcab, and don't focus entirely on your business foot because you have to keep your popping foot on the tail and get it nice and leveled out when you're learning to get your tail on the ledge.
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Post by: SUPREMENECKPROTECTOR on July 17, 2018, 03:40:34 PM
Love reading all those tips! Any pointers on backside Smiths?
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Post by: GardenSkater77 on July 17, 2018, 08:01:07 PM
Love reading all those tips! Any pointers on backside Smiths?

I wrote about this trick on page 8. Have not done one in years but I donít think the mechanics have changed. Itís hard to explain how you have had success but itís fun to try to. Have fun.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: calvinsdream on July 18, 2018, 07:39:23 PM
I can do front half cabs but not regular ones.
pivot when you're popping

Thanks! I'll give it a try.

Have your shoulders and head at 90 when you pop, and fully rotated 180 when your board is at 90

Tried this with my front 180s which and they were much better rotated. I really have a bad habit of not paying attention to my shoulders enough.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: baustin on July 19, 2018, 09:54:48 AM
i do not know if that still is considered a basic ass trick,
but how can you do switch fs tailslides? it's beyond me

As soon as I pop I like to think of it like getting into a noseslide, which makes it less intimidating in my mind. Also I try to bring my sliding foot up as far as I can to over exaggerate the leveling out motion and make sure I get my nose high enough to get on the ledge. I'd suggest practicing switch 180's and really try to throw your weight around to level them out good. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
Post by: BRIX SKWIKZ on July 19, 2018, 10:07:36 AM
switch frontside boardslides !! i went skating this morning and landed one first try!such a great feeling! 8)
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Post by: WorldsBestCargoPants on July 23, 2018, 03:04:39 AM
Nollie flips!!!  :'(  I've got nollie tres, nollie varial flips and a good straight nollie but for some reason over the 17 years I've been skating, I've never been able to get a clean nollie flip, whenever I do one they are pure worm burners and just bounce off the ground.. 
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Post by: silhouette on July 23, 2018, 04:24:24 AM
Nollie flips!!!  :'(  I've got nollie tres, nollie varial flips and a good straight nollie but for some reason over the 17 years I've been skating, I've never been able to get a clean nollie flip, whenever I do one they are pure worm burners and just bounce off the ground..

Random question but can you do nollie backside flips at all? Or do you have the same problem with those? The way I position myself then pop and flick for a nollie flip (thinking front foot position, specifically) has more to do with how I'd pop a nollie backside flip than a nollie varial or 360 flip. Something with how nollie backside flips force you to pop straight and actually flick out behind you, when for nollie varial flip or 360 flip you actually just kind of kick the board and barely move your flicking foot. Maybe you just need to practice the flick. Try forcing yourself to do one of your good nollies with less of your back foot on the board, then flicking at the peak of the jump. Remember that just like you do on nollies, for nollie flips you also have to pop using the forwards direction momentum and jump towards the tail if that makes sense. I hope you eventually figure them out (they also took me forever to get right), they're a fun trick.
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Post by: HangtenNoseblunt on July 23, 2018, 06:11:58 AM
whenever I do one they are pure worm burners and just bounce off the ground..

these are my shit
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Post by: WorldsBestCargoPants on July 23, 2018, 08:55:10 AM
Nollie flips!!!  :'(  I've got nollie tres, nollie varial flips and a good straight nollie but for some reason over the 17 years I've been skating, I've never been able to get a clean nollie flip, whenever I do one they are pure worm burners and just bounce off the ground..

Random question but can you do nollie backside flips at all? Or do you have the same problem with those? The way I position myself then pop and flick for a nollie flip (thinking front foot position, specifically) has more to do with how I'd pop a nollie backside flip than a nollie varial or 360 flip. Something with how nollie backside flips force you to pop straight and actually flick out behind you, when for nollie varial flip or 360 flip you actually just kind of kick the board and barely move your flicking foot. Maybe you just need to practice the flick. Try forcing yourself to do one of your good nollies with less of your back foot on the board, then flicking at the peak of the jump. Remember that just like you do on nollies, for nollie flips you also have to pop using the forwards direction momentum and jump towards the tail if that makes sense. I hope you eventually figure them out (they also took me forever to get right), they're a fun trick.

I can do nollie frontside flips now and again but I don't think I've ever actually landed a nollie backside flip.. But yeah you're right, its definitely something to do with my weak back foot flick as like you say, when doing nollie tre or varial flip it doesn't actually require much flick from the back foot. I'll work with those pointers and get back to you on it. One of my favourite tricks to watch people do clean.
Thanks for taking the time to give your thoughts.  :)
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Post by: WorldsBestCargoPants on July 23, 2018, 08:57:11 AM
whenever I do one they are pure worm burners and just bounce off the ground..

these are my shit

Hilarious in a game of skate I must say, everyone gets a laugh when I actually roll away from it.  ;D
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Post by: shit_for_brains on July 23, 2018, 09:02:32 AM
My nollie flips still aren't great but once I started paying more attention to lifting my front foot straight up I started landing more and they started looking better.
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Post by: bestchester on July 24, 2018, 03:49:37 PM
pretty close to getting front bigspins, the only problem I'm having is that I consistently catch them one-footed as the board is going behind me. "behind" meaning it sort of stays in place when I pop while my body moves forward (naturally, because of forward momentum), i don't mean behind in the sense people usually do where tricks shoot out in the direction of their ass.

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Post by: nooky on July 24, 2018, 04:49:16 PM
front shuv. literally no clue how to get that thing to spin frontside. also tips on how i can stop rotating my shoulders open during kickflips would be much appreciated
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Post by: shit_for_brains on July 24, 2018, 05:16:04 PM
front shuv. literally no clue how to get that thing to spin frontside. also tips on how i can stop rotating my shoulders open during kickflips would be much appreciated

I do/did the same. Start with your front hand in front of you, but land with it behind you but keep your shoulder aligned with your hip. It makes you kind of swing your shoulder in front of you but stay straight. It took a minute to not feel super weird but it works for me so far.

I'm old so I scoop my front shoves.
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Post by: roba on July 25, 2018, 03:55:31 AM
front shuv.

same here, although i have no problem with making the board rotate, the only issue is that i can't keep the board under me and i usually land either in a nose manual and the board shoots out or with my heels on the board and my toes on the ground. shit, i can varial heel better than i can front shove. i can do them in fakie and nollie well but regular and switch is beyond me.
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Post by: super-basic on July 25, 2018, 04:47:14 AM
front shuv. literally no clue how to get that thing to spin frontside. also tips on how i can stop rotating my shoulders open during kickflips would be much appreciated

Just to learn what the motions will feel like, do them on a deck on some carpet. Extrapolate from there.
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Post by: BRIX SKWIKZ on July 25, 2018, 07:04:22 AM
i learned  shovits trying in the grass :P
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Post by: nooky on July 25, 2018, 07:12:19 AM
front shuv. literally no clue how to get that thing to spin frontside. also tips on how i can stop rotating my shoulders open during kickflips would be much appreciated

I do/did the same. Start with your front hand in front of you, but land with it behind you but keep your shoulder aligned with your hip. It makes you kind of swing your shoulder in front of you but stay straight. It took a minute to not feel super weird but it works for me so far.

I'm old so I scoop my front shoves.

so like if i'm regular, i put my left hand pointing forwards, at whatever i'm skating towards, flip, and i land with my left arm behind my back, hand pointing at whatever is behind me? is that what you're saying?
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Post by: shit_for_brains on July 25, 2018, 07:21:33 AM
front shuv. literally no clue how to get that thing to spin frontside. also tips on how i can stop rotating my shoulders open during kickflips would be much appreciated

I do/did the same. Start with your front hand in front of you, but land with it behind you but keep your shoulder aligned with your hip. It makes you kind of swing your shoulder in front of you but stay straight. It took a minute to not feel super weird but it works for me so far.

I'm old so I scoop my front shoves.

so like if i'm regular, i put my left hand pointing forwards, at whatever i'm skating towards, flip, and i land with my left arm behind my back, hand pointing at whatever is behind me? is that what you're saying?

It doesn't have to be these big grand gestures of pointing at stuff, it more just compensates for how we naturally open our shoulders up and turn. It forces you to stay more straight by countering that natural open turn. If you look at natural kickflippers like Reynolds or Herman or whoever you'll see that dudes like them have their arm at their side/more behind them when they land vs. guys like us who have our arms in front of us in an almost defensive posture when we land.
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Post by: the snake on July 25, 2018, 08:08:11 AM
I always land kickflips with my left hand behind me, just sayin'  8)
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Post by: NJ_SKATE27 on July 25, 2018, 06:45:07 PM
TRE FLIPS.  I just canít get em good! Iíve been skating since 09 and I rarely get a clean one. 
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Post by: NJ_SKATE27 on July 25, 2018, 06:46:09 PM
Almost 15 years of skating clocked in and I'm still trying to do nose manuals

8 years for me and I still canít do em either
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Post by: bongboarder420 on July 26, 2018, 07:10:01 PM
Heel flips and front smiths
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Post by: planman on July 27, 2018, 12:53:56 AM
Sw back 180s?
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Post by: shit_for_brains on July 27, 2018, 05:50:41 AM
Sw back 180s?

I scoop and pivot (in the air I have dignity) around my front foot while looking at my board the whole time
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Post by: shark tits on July 27, 2018, 07:01:13 AM
Sw back 180s?
i learned them in the air first but learning the powerslide version made the ollies more consistent. just to get used to your body doing that motion, push fast on flat [or find a little hill] and commit to whipping around sw bs.
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Post by: dallou on July 31, 2018, 02:51:02 AM
I can't do ninja ollie or whatever it's called. And I don't want some eccentric instagram one  but I just to clear some long and high stuff

Heelflip is my favorite thing, sometimes I can do really good one and sometimes It's just awful rocket heel. The lack of consistency is annoying. Also I tend to think too much about it, like every position possible and I think it's not really good, mess with my head.

Can't do varial heel. Everytime I try I just end up with a rocket one and I don't even land on it. To me this is the most beautiful trick ever so it pisses me off.
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Post by: cosmicgypsies on July 31, 2018, 04:52:49 AM
water fire air and earth fucking bs powerslides how do they work and i dont wanna talk to no gx1000 shit yall muthafuckas lying and gettin me pissed
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Post by: silhouette on July 31, 2018, 04:56:15 AM
for the varial heel problem it sounds like you're thinking about the front foot too much. that trick is all in the back foot, pop straight down and hard. front foot barely moves, you just kind of kick it out of the way but you mostly just extend your leg. stay over that back leg and jump.

for backside powerslides just go fast, maybe start turning slightly frontside at first then just lean into them pushing on your legs to break the momentum
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Post by: Goldberg on July 31, 2018, 03:06:27 PM
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Basic ass tricks that piss you off

...a straight clean ollie in flat without obstacles. I`m way over the basics, but 6 of 10 ollies are shit.
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Post by: TooManyPros on August 16, 2018, 01:33:38 PM
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Basic ass tricks that piss you off

...a straight clean ollie in flat without obstacles. I`m way over the basics, but 6 of 10 ollies are shit.

That has to be the same for everyone...I think we all need something to get over to make them clean
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Post by: truthislie on September 15, 2018, 09:20:06 AM
Might not be the most basic, but I didnt want to start a new thread. Anybody has tips on bs 360s? I can spin them, but my feet always land next to each other and one is off the board. Am I just too scared to commit or is there a trick to the landing? Landed some 270s on hips before, but I cant seem to get this shit on flat. Any help would be appreciated.
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Post by: silhouette on September 15, 2018, 01:51:35 PM
Might not be the most basic, but I didnt want to start a new thread. Anybody has tips on bs 360s? I can spin them, but my feet always land next to each other and one is off the board. Am I just too scared to commit or is there a trick to the landing? Landed some 270s on hips before, but I cant seem to get this shit on flat. Any help would be appreciated.

They're all in the big toe on your back foot. Have it hanging off the corner of the tail with your foot at a slight angle, as much as, if not more than you would do for a 360 flip. Your big toe controls the whole rotation and is pretty much the only part of your body that has to remain attached to the board (hence why so many one-footers on backside 360 ollies). You have to jump into the spin upper body first, watching footage frame by frame (not that I'd ever do that post 2004) it's not usual to see the upper body of the skater just about to complete the first 180 before they've even popped; in that pose their body appears twisted before the hips and legs get to catch up. If you've got the full rotation down the landing should be no problem, your back foot should keep the board flat and under you as you spin. If the board flies away you're either not committed enough to the spin, trying to turn your shoulders too late, or are short on the rotation. The most painful problem with that trick is when you start landing on your first few and eat shit with the board shooting out because you still have to figure out the feel of it. It's a lot going on at first. Learning it step hop (no comply) also helps tremendously.
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Post by: truthislie on September 15, 2018, 03:14:49 PM
Might not be the most basic, but I didnt want to start a new thread. Anybody has tips on bs 360s? I can spin them, but my feet always land next to each other and one is off the board. Am I just too scared to commit or is there a trick to the landing? Landed some 270s on hips before, but I cant seem to get this shit on flat. Any help would be appreciated.

They're all in the big toe on your back foot. Have it hanging off the corner of the tail with your foot at a slight angle, as much as, if not more than you would do for a 360 flip. Your big toe controls the whole rotation and is pretty much the only part of your body that has to remain attached to the board (hence why so many one-footers on backside 360 ollies). You have to jump into the spin upper body first, watching footage frame by frame (not that I'd ever do that post 2004) it's not usual to see the upper body of the skater just about to complete the first 180 before they've even popped; in that pose their body appears twisted before the hips and legs get to catch up. If you've got the full rotation down the landing should be no problem, your back foot should keep the board flat and under you as you spin. If the board flies away you're either not committed enough to the spin, trying to turn your shoulders too late, or are short on the rotation. The most painful problem with that trick is when you start landing on your first few and eat shit with the board shooting out because you still have to figure out the feel of it. It's a lot going on at first. Learning it step hop (no comply) also helps tremendously.

Thank you, I got the no comply down and I thought I have the rotation pretty much as well. Going to focus more on my back foot. As with the bs tailslide I have been trying this one for years ;)
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Post by: dirtyweemidden on September 16, 2018, 01:02:31 PM
Might not be the most basic, but I didnt want to start a new thread. Anybody has tips on bs 360s? I can spin them, but my feet always land next to each other and one is off the board. Am I just too scared to commit or is there a trick to the landing? Landed some 270s on hips before, but I cant seem to get this shit on flat. Any help would be appreciated.

They're all in the big toe on your back foot. Have it hanging off the corner of the tail with your foot at a slight angle, as much as, if not more than you would do for a 360 flip. Your big toe controls the whole rotation and is pretty much the only part of your body that has to remain attached to the board (hence why so many one-footers on backside 360 ollies). You have to jump into the spin upper body first, watching footage frame by frame (not that I'd ever do that post 2004) it's not usual to see the upper body of the skater just about to complete the first 180 before they've even popped; in that pose their body appears twisted before the hips and legs get to catch up. If you've got the full rotation down the landing should be no problem, your back foot should keep the board flat and under you as you spin. If the board flies away you're either not committed enough to the spin, trying to turn your shoulders too late, or are short on the rotation. The most painful problem with that trick is when you start landing on your first few and eat shit with the board shooting out because you still have to figure out the feel of it. It's a lot going on at first. Learning it step hop (no comply) also helps tremendously.

Thank you, I got the no comply down and I thought I have the rotation pretty much as well. Going to focus more on my back foot. As with the bs tailslide I have been trying this one for years ;)

Back 3's are my favourite trick! theyre so rad when you figure them out. the advice above is spot on.
if you have them good on hips you shouldnt be too far off getting them straight. just fuckin Jump with it! none of that back 180 to 180 pivot nonsense
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Post by: HangtenNoseblunt on September 16, 2018, 05:12:43 PM
if back 3s are a basic trick then they all piss me off
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Post by: planman on September 16, 2018, 07:35:25 PM
I can't do ninja ollie or whatever it's called. And I don't want some eccentric instagram one  but I just to clear some long and high stuff

Heelflip is my favorite thing, sometimes I can do really good one and sometimes It's just awful rocket heel. The lack of consistency is annoying. Also I tend to think too much about it, like every position possible and I think it's not really good, mess with my head.

Can't do varial heel. Everytime I try I just end up with a rocket one and I don't even land on it. To me this is the most beautiful trick ever so it pisses me off.
For varial heel your front foot should be around the middle of the board, maybe slightly closer to the front bolts than the back, your back foot should have your toes on the "corner" of your tail, kind of where you'd have 'em for a front shuv but a little further behind you, when you pop, back foot does a front shuv motion while the front foot kicks out diagonally
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Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on September 21, 2018, 12:28:00 PM
I can do rock to fakie s but I detest them and never do them.