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Title: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: tkp on November 27, 2017, 09:38:14 AM
Cue your tinfoil hat, actually, don't. Getting kicked out of spots by security as they film us, scoffing at the CCTV cameras at empty schools pointed directly at our faces and ignoring them because who cares if you are on camera.

However, this has all changed with social media. Companies capable of instantly matching your face to a database of Instagram, Facebook, or scraped web images. Targetting the SPOT skater database for instance. We saw that one kid who ollied onto that fancy car get his identity revealed pretty quickly (then again he did post the footage on his own personal account).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE1kA0Jy0Xg

https://youtu.be/aE1kA0Jy0Xg?t=3m << real life facial recognition

Perhaps the Barrier Kult has been at the forefront of future masked street skateboard sessions.

(https://i.imgur.com/1IzdakY.jpg)

Grind a ledge on private property and 2 days later get a ticket in the mail with a frame grab of you breaking the law.

Dystopic or future reality?
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on November 27, 2017, 09:40:42 AM
I was skating around town and one of those backflipping robots came outta nowhere and kicked my ass, so you're probably onto something.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: shit_for_brains on November 27, 2017, 09:45:34 AM
That backflipping robot is the whitest white guy in the world don't be afraid of him
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: patrick c. on November 27, 2017, 10:12:15 AM
A spot I skate nightly has security cameras and I do worry about this happening.  It is coming but from what I hear reliable facial recognition technology is still a few years out.  If you have the time to kill this article talks a bit about the difficulty of using cctv to actually arrest someone:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/08/22/londons-super-recognizer-police-force (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/08/22/londons-super-recognizer-police-force)
Also shoutout to Deerman of Darkwoods:
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/51bde23be4b0f207624f41e6/51be4e88e4b06d4459eb9f4a/51be4e8be4b06d4459eb9f53/1371426444097/latestad.jpg?format=500w)
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 27, 2017, 10:17:14 AM
Micro in the Punisher was able to match people’s gait.  They’re not far from analyzing our push.  Better switch it up and push mongo every once in a while just to keep em guessing
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on November 27, 2017, 10:25:17 AM
This could have been avoided by simply electing not to upload pictures of my face to the internet.
God i wish i never did it. Fuckin internet ruined America.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: shit_for_brains on November 27, 2017, 10:36:47 AM
This could have been avoided by simply electing not to upload pictures of my face to the internet.
God i wish i never did it. Fuckin internet ruined America.

Or get any form of identification or bank account or be born in a hospital
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on November 27, 2017, 10:50:29 AM
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This could have been avoided by simply electing not to upload pictures of my face to the internet.
God i wish i never did it. Fuckin internet ruined America.
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Or get any form of identification or bank account or be born in a hospital
Sorry I was really trying to save myself for the "taxation is theft" thread but it's boiling over.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: bawtawd5 on November 27, 2017, 10:58:18 AM
Burn your fingerprints off and grow mustache.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: C Dash Money on November 27, 2017, 11:03:44 AM
Good thing I live in Malmö now and can skate wherever, whenever and nobody gives a fuck...
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: GAY on November 27, 2017, 11:26:02 AM
Good thing I live in Malmö now and can skate wherever, whenever and nobody gives a fuck...

oh c'mon that's not a real place that's the red doll from Sessemy Street LOL
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: Manolo on November 27, 2017, 11:27:45 AM
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Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: shark tits on November 27, 2017, 11:38:09 AM
before barrier kult there was sean young, the unknown asshole.
dude bombed some of the illest hills of the 90s and also had a picture bs flipping 3 up 3 down going the wrong way.
maybe skating in a balaclava or skank [bandana] over your face can be trendwatch 2018?
false moustache?
elven ears and dark glasses?
long bangs?
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: tortfeasor on November 27, 2017, 11:48:38 AM
Better switch it up and push mongo every once in a while just to keep em guessing

Those who would give up essential style, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither insta likes nor Safety.


also even if the tools were viable enough to be useful the amount implementing and utilizing the system would cost more than the amount of damage skateboarders would do to the property.  it makes no economic sense.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: coreaf on November 27, 2017, 11:49:15 AM
Just go skating in one of these:

(https://img.costumecraze.com/images/vendors/disguise/16947-Mens-Deluxe-Donald-Trump-Mask-large.jpg)
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: Dwyck on November 27, 2017, 11:51:52 AM
more friends sections with no names
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: Salty Lame Ass Poosey on November 27, 2017, 12:06:39 PM
“Do the robo cop, i’d Buy that for a dollar”
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: Cthulhu! on November 27, 2017, 12:59:08 PM
Balaclavas and leather jackets. I've been waiting for this.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: sharkin on November 27, 2017, 12:59:22 PM
The only picture of me on the internet is at my place of employment and i comb my hair for work

fuck.. i just outed myself
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: somethingmustbreaknow on November 27, 2017, 01:21:59 PM
(https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/a1a3705d-8c70-43da-a2fb-02f8d3240112_1.59adece6369a4c33aed028e4143a03cc.jpeg?odnHeight=450&odnWidth=450&odnBg=FFFFFF)
ordered some of these, just in case...

it's definitely over when this is implemented world wide...
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-34592186
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: botefdunn on November 27, 2017, 02:33:32 PM
forget the tinfoil hats, they id you by your ears.

trendwatch 2018 the rugby look, in the streets with duct tape headbands
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: ImportantGuy on November 27, 2017, 03:07:29 PM

it's definitely over when this is implemented world wide...
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-34592186
Jesus Fucking Christ. Lemme borrow this link real quick.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: youaresofucked on November 27, 2017, 03:18:59 PM
I don't think skateboarding is serious enough for us to worry about this, but if you are going to be doing some serious vandalism ex: making a spot skateable, bonds, cutting kinks, taking off knobs, then you should definitely be carful of camera systems watching you
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: Silky Johnson on November 27, 2017, 04:02:21 PM
(https://s18.postimg.org/4kkqo4q15/Zombo_Meme_27112017160014.jpg)
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on November 27, 2017, 05:28:14 PM
Yeah, because every school has a dedicated skater detective that uses multiple sources to identify every skateboarder on their property. I mean, most school budgets can barely afford to hire nurses or librarians, and in the bay, most schools have a teacher shortage because they can’t compete when it comes to salaries, but they DEFINITELY spend extra money to hire people to look back over footage from an entire weekend, go over every individual they spot, and compare them to a universal facial recognition system.
Even if/when this becomes possible, I find it hard to believe any school will implement it. Most of those cameras aren’t even there for outsiders, they are there to catch students trying to ditch or fighting during recess.
You know there is already a way LAUSD could arrest hundreds of skaters based on this logic right? They could literally just do monthly visits to the Thrasher site, and see plenty of “evidence” with skater’s names right under them. They don’t.
I’m going to stop now, because I’ve already given this asenine topic too much credence.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: ImportantGuy on November 27, 2017, 05:45:16 PM

I’m going to stop now, because I’ve already given this asenine topic too much credence.
Asinine*
If you're going to use a word I need to look up, at least spell it right.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on November 27, 2017, 05:53:29 PM
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I’m going to stop now, because I’ve already given this asenine topic too much credence.
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Asinine*
If you're going to use a word I need to look up, at least spell it right.

"Respect your elders"

Gipper is on point on this topic
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: ImportantGuy on November 27, 2017, 05:59:00 PM
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Asinine*
If you're going to use a word I need to look up, at least spell it right.
[close]

"Respect your elders"

Gipper is on point on this topic

I know he's on point regarding this : there's a good chance none of us will ever get to experience such tyranny. Nothing wrong with trying to predict the future, though. I personally loved 1984.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: tkp on November 27, 2017, 07:25:14 PM
Ha, some funny responses in here.

The French Quarters in New Orleans has a 24 hour monitored surveillance system and they are working on allowing private individuals and businesses to contribute their video feeds to the service:
http://www.theadvocate.com/new_orleans/news/crime_police/article_d0288312-cee1-11e7-af0a-8769895f8988.html

There is a site anyone can use to match photos with faces on Russia's biggest social networking site, http://findface.ru/ . If you have a public profile on that site and you piss off someone who then snaps a photo of ya, you're vulnerable.

Just putting this out there as we are going to see more of these systems installed worldwide.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: leopard print on November 28, 2017, 04:44:18 AM
I have a friend who works at a jet propulsion lab and he lets us come in for free and use their equipment to melt our fingerprints off.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on November 28, 2017, 08:24:03 AM
Ha, some funny responses in here.

The French Quarters in New Orleans has a 24 hour monitored surveillance system and they are working on allowing private individuals and businesses to contribute their video feeds to the service:
http://www.theadvocate.com/new_orleans/news/crime_police/article_d0288312-cee1-11e7-af0a-8769895f8988.html

There is a site anyone can use to match photos with faces on Russia's biggest social networking site, http://findface.ru/ . If you have a public profile on that site and you piss off someone who then snaps a photo of ya, you're vulnerable.

Just putting this out there as we are going to see more of these systems installed worldwide.
You're a goddamned idiot. You do realize that there already are security guards on private property, and that they virtually NEVER do anything but tell people to leave right? They could easily detain skaters and call the cops. They don't. They just chase us off property. These other places could hire security to work during off times that would cost as much as running a facial recognition system, which, by the way, would also have to track people down after they were identified, but they don't.
We are like rats or mosquitoes. They chase us away if we get in their space, but they don't track us down once we've been shoo'd away

You are smoking some seriously strong shit to believe this is a real issue.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: tkp on November 28, 2017, 03:02:59 PM

You're a goddamned idiot. You do realize that there already are security guards on private property, and that they virtually NEVER do anything but tell people to leave right? They could easily detain skaters and call the cops. They don't. They just chase us off property. These other places could hire security to work during off times that would cost as much as running a facial recognition system, which, by the way, would also have to track people down after they were identified, but they don't.
We are like rats or mosquitoes. They chase us away if we get in their space, but they don't track us down once we've been shoo'd away

You are smoking some seriously strong shit to believe this is a real issue.

Ronald, you're right. Security guards always just ask people to leave. They would never abuse their powers and attempt to detain a skater, take their board, or gain the skaters identification. They've also never written down license plate numbers and notified the local police with this information. Every encounter I've ever had with security has been the most peaceful and polite interaction and we were best friends as they happily shooed us skaters off. 

Small towns with little crime to profit off of just love letting people off the hook for simple destruction of property charges because those fines, court fees, and government funding for locking people up just aren't worth their time.

Side note: I've had friends forced to go to court over surveillance camera footage of them skating on private property. It took the cops a few months to figure out who they were, but it's a real thing.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: fulltechnicalskizzy on November 28, 2017, 03:07:21 PM
Ron's talking specifically about skateboarding in underfunded bay area schoolyards. He is a teacher you see
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: Silky Johnson on November 28, 2017, 03:34:43 PM
How long till the war with Skynet affects skateboarders on street missions?
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--99L-mAbN--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/ufaamb49u5tulumawi3c.jpg)
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: Ken1 on November 28, 2017, 04:31:38 PM
Balaclava or Bust...add a durag while you're at it, too. However, if you're looking to terrorize a spot, maybe a keffiyeh is more appropriate.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: tkp on May 01, 2018, 10:51:29 AM
Oakland, CA surveillance update:
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4450176-View-Supplemental-Report-4-26-18.html

Berkeley, CA and surveillance:
https://www.fastcompany.com/40558647/berkeley-mayor-we-passed-the-strongest-police-surveillance-law

Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: IHOP on May 01, 2018, 11:11:43 AM
Homie of mine was skating a ledge at a law firm, and two weeks later he got a bill from the firm in the mail, they got his info off of his license plate via cameras.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: morningcommute on May 01, 2018, 12:19:39 PM
Homie of mine was skating a ledge at a law firm, and two weeks later he got a bill from the firm in the mail, they got his info off of his license plate via cameras.

I can't find the clip but the same thing happened to Nick Jensen at a football (not soccer) stadium. It was a backnoseblunt transfer on a kicker to ledge type deal. They got his car number plate and sent him a bill for the damages.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: Matthew_James on May 01, 2018, 01:11:29 PM
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Asinine*
If you're going to use a word I need to look up, at least spell it right.
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"Respect your elders"

Gipper is on point on this topic
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I know he's on point regarding this : there's a good chance none of us will ever get to experience such tyranny. Nothing wrong with trying to predict the future, though. I personally loved 1984.

I like how Gip doesn't consider a future where the technology is advanced enough to do all of that stuff he claims requires man power on its own, at a fraction of the price it costs now or even free. He sounds like the old guys in that clip asking Zucc how he makes money off of Facebook even though it's free to join...
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: art hellman on May 01, 2018, 02:52:41 PM
masks arent enough... watch out for those tan lines boys

(http://deadshirt.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/tumblr_m64ibxxDl01rtknhto1_1280-1024x717.jpg)
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: Mongoloid on May 01, 2018, 03:32:05 PM
Burn your fingerprints off and grow mustache.

I used to pride my young child self on the fact that I somehow avoided every school "fingerprint register" day the local PD would put on. Then I got arrested in my later teen years and botched the whole thing.

fucking modern identification methods! Want my fucking pubes while we're at it?!?
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on May 01, 2018, 03:32:44 PM
I don't think skateboarding is serious enough for us to worry about this, but if you are going to be doing some serious vandalism ex: making a spot skateable, bonds, cutting kinks, taking off knobs, then you should definitely be carful of camera systems watching you
   It'll be like a sliding scale; if its expensive for them to effectively police individuals it would have to be a more 'serious' matter to bother with, BUT once it gets cheaper to do so that's when the 'micro' policing era will began. Yes you'll see that if it serves corporate interest. We'll all just have a permanent probe in our ass sending info to a data base. 
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: AitchBeeGayBuh on May 01, 2018, 04:46:20 PM
Read all this an I'm not worried at all... Got no photos of me on worldwide web. Never been on Facebook or Instagram with my full name. Anything skating of me I use my nickname and sadly enough I'm in my mid 30's without a vehicle so nobodys gettin my liscense.

Yeah, if my bike gets recognized I'm fucked but don't think that'll happen.

Gipper has a point, schools don't have the funds for some dude to look over survellience footage unless something gnarly happpened.

Skatin in a ski mask sounds like a good idea too but from experience not the greatest thing when you're drunk riding around in public areas in daytime hours...
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: Mongoloid on May 01, 2018, 04:58:32 PM
It would be great if some sort of AI would someday identify me by Slap taint.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: ungzilla on May 01, 2018, 05:01:50 PM
i already have i'm just waiting for an opportune time to taint-doxx you
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: swanronson on May 01, 2018, 05:07:10 PM
Homie of mine was skating a ledge at a law firm, and two weeks later he got a bill from the firm in the mail, they got his info off of his license plate via cameras.

I can't find the clip but the same thing happened to Nick Jensen at a football (not soccer) stadium. It was a backnoseblunt transfer on a kicker to ledge type deal. They got his car number plate and sent him a bill for the damages.


I have no idea why people would park in front of the spot or at schools. Just park down the street...
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: Sad Hippo on May 01, 2018, 05:26:07 PM
Shit is terrifying.
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2018-palantir-peter-thiel/
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: Shifty Flip on May 01, 2018, 05:51:33 PM
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I don't think skateboarding is serious enough for us to worry about this, but if you are going to be doing some serious vandalism ex: making a spot skateable, bonds, cutting kinks, taking off knobs, then you should definitely be carful of camera systems watching you
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   It'll be like a sliding scale; if its expensive for them to effectively police individuals it would have to be a more 'serious' matter to bother with, BUT once it gets cheaper to do so that's when the 'micro' policing era will began. Yes you'll see that if it serves corporate interest. We'll all just have a permanent probe in our ass sending info to a data base.
It'll be just like when they bought Wesley back to life in Demolition Man and the kiosks all through the city spit out cursing tickets and MDK fines, except in our future, the kiosk at all the spots will give ABD, Fake steeze, and Manny Buster tickets
Seriously though, incoming Baclava B!! Bandanas are so 2018
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: fang on May 01, 2018, 05:55:28 PM
before barrier kult there was sean young, the unknown asshole.
dude bombed some of the illest hills of the 90s and also had a picture bs flipping 3 up 3 down going the wrong way.
maybe skating in a balaclava or skank [bandana] over your face can be trendwatch 2018?
false moustache?
elven ears and dark glasses?
long bangs?

God I hope so
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: Chavo on May 01, 2018, 06:34:56 PM
Homie of mine was skating a ledge at a law firm, and two weeks later he got a bill from the firm in the mail, they got his info off of his license plate via cameras.

I can't find the clip but the same thing happened to Nick Jensen at a football (not soccer) stadium. It was a backnoseblunt transfer on a kicker to ledge type deal. They got his car number plate and sent him a bill for the damages.


I have no idea why people would park in front of the spot or at schools. Just park down the street...

You'd need a court order to get personal info from license plates in California. It's funny when you see guards follow you and take down your plates. Everyone knows they're powerless.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: Mongoloid on May 01, 2018, 07:20:19 PM
Shit is terrifying.
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2018-palantir-peter-thiel/

See, this is more reason to show your balls.

These guys wanna datamine? Well yeah, here's my dick! Here's my asshole in HD. Honestly it has zero effect on the disaffected. I'm not thrilled about it, but at the same token I don't wanna make the commitment of isolation. Therefore one must live apathetic.

It's easier in life.. especially when you reach the disenchanted middle ages to pick and choose the fucks you give.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: iKobrakai on May 02, 2018, 02:14:37 AM
Just stop skating. Mega savings!
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: tkp on July 08, 2018, 08:20:44 PM
This is one thread I'll keep gravedigging as the surveillance technology gets more advanced

Orlando, Florida and Washington County, Oregon jumping on the trend

https://www.aclu.org/blog/privacy-technology/surveillance-technologies/amazon-teams-government-deploy-dangerous-new
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: Atiba Applebum on July 08, 2018, 08:55:19 PM
All skateboarding is branded content
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: tkp on July 08, 2018, 09:10:42 PM
We can all just become juggalos to beat the id systems

https://futurism.com/juggalos-makeup-facial-recognition/
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: Cthulhu! on July 08, 2018, 09:29:11 PM
I've always wanted to go to the Gathering.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: Eds_gallerist on July 09, 2018, 12:04:04 AM
This is one thread I'll keep gravedigging as the surveillance technology gets more advanced

Orlando, Florida and Washington County, Oregon jumping on the trend

https://www.aclu.org/blog/privacy-technology/surveillance-technologies/amazon-teams-government-deploy-dangerous-new

Keep it up dude! Shit's scary as hell.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: sexualhelon on July 09, 2018, 01:47:04 AM
I think any of these "threats" can be seen in plain sight if you're looking for them. This century has seen more technological change than all of human history before it. It's moving faster than regulation can react. Is it moving faster than ethics, faster than we can adapt?

Everyone seems to be getting dumber apart from the people writing the code. People falling off cliffs because they were trying to take a selfie and thinking it's important for everyone to watch them eat cereal on YouTube. So then the government obviously realizes these tools can be put to use, for better or worse.

The Edward Snowden quote just is becoming more and more relevant, "Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say". Imagine sitting down at a table with an FBI agent who pulls out every google search you've ever done, CCTV footage of every street you crossed in the last 5 years, every Uber you ever took, everything you ate etc... I mean, it's happening already:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-YuU3J-YV0

Fuck. Am I turning into one of "those" people?
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: fulfillthedream on July 09, 2018, 01:58:55 AM
haha they have this in china but they're not using it to crack down on petty shit - people are skating street here with no problem
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: lampshade on July 09, 2018, 03:34:01 AM
(https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/a1a3705d-8c70-43da-a2fb-02f8d3240112_1.59adece6369a4c33aed028e4143a03cc.jpeg?odnHeight=450&odnWidth=450&odnBg=FFFFFF)
ordered some of these, just in case...

it's definitely over when this is implemented world wide...
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-34592186

Then you'd just get Gerwer in trouble.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: tkp on November 29, 2019, 08:12:45 AM
Grave digging this thread.

In a post (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108122.0) by Kornholio8, I commented about the recent systems that  automatically fine people for jaywalking (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7664797/Chinas-facial-recognition-punishes-jaywalkers-putting-pictures-big-screens.html). I also wrote a little bit (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108122.msg3165457#msg3165457) about Bluetooth Low Energy and other ways to identify people via their phone.

I've been hearing rumblings about police starting to request access home owner's personal security systems. This isn't anything new, but is something to take into consideration when skating house spots:
https://threatpost.com/amazon-ring-facial-recognition-watch-list/150681/
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: AssFlea on November 29, 2019, 08:20:55 AM
Catch a ticket in the mail for destruction of property over $250.

Fucka Vandal Squad
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: dr. radishh on November 29, 2019, 08:32:46 AM
Grave digging this thread.

In a post (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108122.0) by Kornholio8, I commented about the recent systems that  automatically fine people for jaywalking (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7664797/Chinas-facial-recognition-punishes-jaywalkers-putting-pictures-big-screens.html). I also wrote a little bit (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108122.msg3165457#msg3165457) about Bluetooth Low Energy and other ways to identify people via their phone.

I've been hearing rumblings about police starting to request access home owner's personal security systems. This isn't anything new, but is something to take into consideration when skating house spots:
https://threatpost.com/amazon-ring-facial-recognition-watch-list/150681/

this is happening in a township just north of me. here's a quote from the article explaining how it works, for anyone who cares:
(would link the whole article but the website has a subscription block)

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Police departments that work with Ring can tap into the Neighbors public feed. “Officers can chat directly with users on the Neighbors feed and get alerts when a homeowner posts a message from inside their watched jurisdiction,” Harwell wrote. “To seek out Ring video that has not been publicly shared, officers can use a special ‘Neighbors Portal’ map interface to designate a time range and local area, up to half a square mile wide, and get Ring to send an automated email to all users within that range, alongside a case number and message from police.”

So it’s not quite “unrestricted access.” But it has a wide potential reach, which we find concerning. Ring makes providing video to the authorities simple. And wouldn’t most of us reflexively want to help the police?

that last sentence  ::)
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: AssFlea on November 29, 2019, 08:40:10 AM
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Grave digging this thread.

In a post (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108122.0) by Kornholio8, I commented about the recent systems that  automatically fine people for jaywalking (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7664797/Chinas-facial-recognition-punishes-jaywalkers-putting-pictures-big-screens.html). I also wrote a little bit (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108122.msg3165457#msg3165457) about Bluetooth Low Energy and other ways to identify people via their phone.

I've been hearing rumblings about police starting to request access home owner's personal security systems. This isn't anything new, but is something to take into consideration when skating house spots:
https://threatpost.com/amazon-ring-facial-recognition-watch-list/150681/
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this is happening in a township just north of me. here's a quote from the article explaining how it works, for anyone who cares:
(would link the whole article but the website has a subscription block)

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Police departments that work with Ring can tap into the Neighbors public feed. “Officers can chat directly with users on the Neighbors feed and get alerts when a homeowner posts a message from inside their watched jurisdiction,” Harwell wrote. “To seek out Ring video that has not been publicly shared, officers can use a special ‘Neighbors Portal’ map interface to designate a time range and local area, up to half a square mile wide, and get Ring to send an automated email to all users within that range, alongside a case number and message from police.”

So it’s not quite “unrestricted access.” But it has a wide potential reach, which we find concerning. Ring makes providing video to the authorities simple. And wouldn’t most of us reflexively want to help the police?
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that last sentence  ::)

wouldn’t most of us reflexively want to help the police?

Fuck the police I live and die by the G Code.

You should be silenced you trash loving filth.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: Lord Viper Scorpion on November 29, 2019, 10:24:38 AM
destroy the cameras, problem solved
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: Ziad on November 29, 2019, 12:48:05 PM
this sucks
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: keepthefunkalive on November 29, 2019, 01:37:36 PM
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Grave digging this thread.

In a post (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108122.0) by Kornholio8, I commented about the recent systems that  automatically fine people for jaywalking (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7664797/Chinas-facial-recognition-punishes-jaywalkers-putting-pictures-big-screens.html). I also wrote a little bit (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108122.msg3165457#msg3165457) about Bluetooth Low Energy and other ways to identify people via their phone.

I've been hearing rumblings about police starting to request access home owner's personal security systems. This isn't anything new, but is something to take into consideration when skating house spots:
https://threatpost.com/amazon-ring-facial-recognition-watch-list/150681/
[close]

this is happening in a township just north of me. here's a quote from the article explaining how it works, for anyone who cares:
(would link the whole article but the website has a subscription block)

Quote
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Police departments that work with Ring can tap into the Neighbors public feed. “Officers can chat directly with users on the Neighbors feed and get alerts when a homeowner posts a message from inside their watched jurisdiction,” Harwell wrote. “To seek out Ring video that has not been publicly shared, officers can use a special ‘Neighbors Portal’ map interface to designate a time range and local area, up to half a square mile wide, and get Ring to send an automated email to all users within that range, alongside a case number and message from police.”

So it’s not quite “unrestricted access.” But it has a wide potential reach, which we find concerning. Ring makes providing video to the authorities simple. And wouldn’t most of us reflexively want to help the police?
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that last sentence  ::)
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wouldn’t most of us reflexively want to help the police?

Fuck the police I live and die by the G Code.

You should be silenced you trash loving filth.

1, 2, 3...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjVhx_JhwkI
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: tkp on March 11, 2020, 08:36:10 AM
Automated crime detection active across Utah:

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/k7exem/banjo-ai-company-utah-surveillance-panopticon
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: dr. radishh on March 11, 2020, 10:41:39 AM
Fuck the police I live and die by the G Code.

You should be silenced you trash loving filth.

it was a quote from the article, but i appreciate your tenacity
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: dooley on March 11, 2020, 04:26:43 PM
Automated crime detection active across Utah:

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/k7exem/banjo-ai-company-utah-surveillance-panopticon
Minority Report type of shit.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: tkp on July 17, 2020, 02:59:37 PM
If you are in the USA and interested in seeing what types of surveillance the police have access to:

https://atlasofsurveillance.org/

They likely have more things that are not publicly known, but this is an interesting guide. The private camera access (Ring) opens up so many more digital eyes.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: tkp on January 07, 2023, 11:47:03 AM
Just a little public service announcement the Skatepark of Tampa skater database was scraped and shows up in Pimeyes, a free facial recognition search tool accessible to anyone.

Edit: This is typically done without the content providers (SPOT in this case) permission, if it's on the internet, it's probably been swooped up in a scrape. Web scraping public content, for the most part, is legal. The issues typically arise in how that data is then used.

Here's a Vice short about the tool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Azg_5bKRtrs
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: Dark Knight on January 07, 2023, 12:16:57 PM
I was going to say a girlfriend.  That’s what I’m scared of
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: SneakySecrets on January 07, 2023, 12:30:54 PM
Just a little public service announcement the Skatepark of Tampa skater database was scraped and shows up in Pimeyes, a free facial recognition search tool accessible to anyone.

Why in the world would they agree to that?  Can’t they just run a fucking skatepark and leave the Orwellian surveillance state out of it?  It just strikes me as such a non-skateboarderly thing to do.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: tkp on January 07, 2023, 12:55:05 PM
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Just a little public service announcement the Skatepark of Tampa skater database was scraped and shows up in Pimeyes, a free facial recognition search tool accessible to anyone.
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Why in the world would they agree to that?  Can’t they just run a fucking skatepark and leave the Orwellian surveillance state out of it?  It just strikes me as such a non-skateboarderly thing to do.

They don't have to agree for it to happen, which is the case for any website that hosts public facing content. Most aren't aware their data could be used, or is being used for profit by another company.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: manysnakes on January 07, 2023, 12:56:38 PM
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Just a little public service announcement the Skatepark of Tampa skater database was scraped and shows up in Pimeyes, a free facial recognition search tool accessible to anyone.
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Why in the world would they agree to that?  Can’t they just run a fucking skatepark and leave the Orwellian surveillance state out of it?  It just strikes me as such a non-skateboarderly thing to do.

No consent is needed, they're just images in a public-facing database, accessed by an algorithm which sorted them into their own database.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: SneakySecrets on January 07, 2023, 01:03:06 PM
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Just a little public service announcement the Skatepark of Tampa skater database was scraped and shows up in Pimeyes, a free facial recognition search tool accessible to anyone.
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Why in the world would they agree to that?  Can’t they just run a fucking skatepark and leave the Orwellian surveillance state out of it?  It just strikes me as such a non-skateboarderly thing to do.
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They don't have to agree for it to happen, which is the case for any website that hosts public facing content. Most aren't aware their data could be used, or is being used for profit by another company.

Sorry, I’m a dumbass, Im really high right now and somehow got the idea they set up cameras inside the park. 
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: Blueabyssofthisss on January 07, 2023, 01:06:43 PM
A sight unseen
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: landedprimo on January 07, 2023, 01:28:41 PM
Shit is getting real around here.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: GumOnMyGrip on January 07, 2023, 01:30:07 PM
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Just a little public service announcement the Skatepark of Tampa skater database was scraped and shows up in Pimeyes, a free facial recognition search tool accessible to anyone.
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Why in the world would they agree to that?  Can’t they just run a fucking skatepark and leave the Orwellian surveillance state out of it?  It just strikes me as such a non-skateboarderly thing to do.
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They don't have to agree for it to happen, which is the case for any website that hosts public facing content. Most aren't aware their data could be used, or is being used for profit by another company.
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Sorry, I’m a dumbass, Im really high right now and somehow got the idea they set up cameras inside the park.

That was I Level.
For a totally different reason.

In any case this fucking sucks. 
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: landedprimo on January 07, 2023, 01:51:52 PM
My local police station has a form on their site you can fill out to give access to your cameras.

Fuck that.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: #alexander# on January 07, 2023, 01:53:44 PM
THEY can also analyze your gait if you are wearing a mask. Not far off to imagine big data can analyzed your push and take your board away if your social credit score drops.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: landedprimo on January 07, 2023, 01:58:54 PM
THEY can also analyze your gait if you are wearing a mask. Not far off to imagine big data can analyzed your push and take your board away if your social credit score drops.

Don't forget tire track analysis. Change your wheels often pals.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: sle_epy on January 07, 2023, 07:19:52 PM
Cue your tinfoil hat, actually, don't. Getting kicked out of spots by security as they film us, scoffing at the CCTV cameras at empty schools pointed directly at our faces and ignoring them because who cares if you are on camera.

However, this has all changed with social media. Companies capable of instantly matching your face to a database of Instagram, Facebook, or scraped web images. Targetting the SPOT skater database for instance. We saw that one kid who ollied onto that fancy car get his identity revealed pretty quickly (then again he did post the footage on his own personal account).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE1kA0Jy0Xg

https://youtu.be/aE1kA0Jy0Xg?t=3m << real life facial recognition

Perhaps the Barrier Kult has been at the forefront of future masked street skateboard sessions.

(https://i.imgur.com/1IzdakY.jpg)

Grind a ledge on private property and 2 days later get a ticket in the mail with a frame grab of you breaking the law.

Dystopic or future reality?

Is the frame grab sick tho?
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: IpathCats on January 07, 2023, 07:22:34 PM
Looks like yuto was on to something with that balaclava huh?
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: mooraga on January 08, 2023, 04:22:07 AM
It totally could happen, BUT…
I really think we are gonna fuck up this world so bad that by the time that technology it’s working “everywhere” we’ll be more worried about riots, poverty, diseases and wars than dudes skating the spot (if there’s still some spots to skate)

It’s been published that for 2050 the biggest cause of dead will be associated with bacterial resistance to meds. YES NUMBER ONE IN THE WORLD.




Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: backfliptofiftyfifty on January 08, 2023, 06:25:28 AM
you cant go somewhere in england without being on a CCTV camera. thats how bad it is
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: SneakySecrets on January 08, 2023, 06:58:19 AM
It’s been published that for 2050 the biggest cause of dead will be associated with bacterial resistance to meds. YES NUMBER ONE IN THE WORLD.

They can just use all their cameras to make sure the infected don’t leave their houses and die alone in their own filth and don’t infect the rest of us.  Problem solved!
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: dannyprovolone on January 08, 2023, 07:09:56 AM
Looks like yuto was on to something with that balaclava huh?

he knew the cairumans were watching his every move
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: Sizzle on January 08, 2023, 08:49:19 AM
I wear a half ski mask thing that goes up to my ears and covers my nose when it’s significantly below freezing and I love it. I want to only skate in a balaclava from now on
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: S. on January 08, 2023, 09:05:32 AM
It totally could happen, BUT…
I really think we are gonna fuck up this world so bad that by the time that technology it’s working “everywhere” we’ll be more worried about riots, poverty, diseases and wars than dudes skating the spot (if there’s still some spots to skate)

It’s been published that for 2050 the biggest cause of dead will be associated with bacterial resistance to meds. YES NUMBER ONE IN THE WORLD.

where did you read that? www.covidisahoax.com? It's a problem that some doctors prescribe antibiotics way too quickly, but it is not going to be that bad. New meds are constanly being developed. My brother has cystic fibrosis and has been on antibiotics for most of his life. When one of them has stopped working, they were always able to give him a different one that did work.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: SneakySecrets on January 08, 2023, 09:21:06 AM
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It totally could happen, BUT…
I really think we are gonna fuck up this world so bad that by the time that technology it’s working “everywhere” we’ll be more worried about riots, poverty, diseases and wars than dudes skating the spot (if there’s still some spots to skate)

It’s been published that for 2050 the biggest cause of dead will be associated with bacterial resistance to meds. YES NUMBER ONE IN THE WORLD.
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where did you read that? www.covidisahoax.com? It's a problem that some doctors prescribe antibiotics way too quickly, but it is not going to be that bad. No meds are constanly being developed. My brother has cystic fibrosis and has been on antibiotics for most of his life. When one of them has stopped working, they were always able to give him a different one that did work.

I heard somewhere that they started using artificial intelligence to design new antibiotics.  So it comes up with these brand new molecules that actually work in the real world.  It’s pretty insane.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: S. on January 08, 2023, 09:29:34 AM
you cant go somewhere in england without being on a CCTV camera. thats how bad it is

Yes, British surveilance is crazy: Fuck those cynical sticker that say "smile you're on CCTV"! Has CCTV actually lowered crime rates?
In Germany we have a fairly strong data protection movement, which so far has been able to prevent some of the worst surveilance measures. However, secrect service agencies have access to almost all internet information anyways (even to private cameras, if they are connected to the internt) as Snowdon has shown. Luckily not much of it can be used in court right now.

I see a rise of surveilance technology and automatic policing in Europe, unless some serious measures are taken to reverse economic inequality. This has already happened in the US, where in the past decades the prison system has basicly replaced social welfare and public health care. There are 2.2 million Americans in prison/jail right now being closely watched for 24 hours (and they still manage to commit crimes!).

A credit score system and mass surveilance scares the shit out of me! What's fucked up, is that quite alot of young people seem to feel safe being closely controlled and even ask for more control and constant "optimization of their potential". There is still alot of talk about freedom, but I feel people don't even know what that is anymore. Many people seem seriously scared of not being technologically regualated or having a social framework for acceptable and unacceptable behavior. Sitting around, unwatched, bored and then consciously deciding on what to do for the afternoon is a luxery less and less people are able to experience.

Whatever, I am getting old.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: CrappybsflipDownthe5stair on January 08, 2023, 09:47:03 AM
you cant go somewhere in england without being on a CCTV camera. thats how bad it is

Not quite. This is from an old study which showed huge amounts of cctv in London. Most of this is private CCTV though, and not the sort of big data centralised stuff you see in China.

Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: layzieyez on January 08, 2023, 09:59:40 AM
It’s going to suck when the cctv records you then they send out armed robot dogs to make you stop or apprehend you.

https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/robot-police-dogs-are-here-should-we-be-worried
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: TheLurper on January 08, 2023, 11:19:49 AM
This is old, but a good description of what we may lose as surveillance ramps up:
"Driving to the panopticon: A philosophical exploration of the risks to privacy posed by the highway technology of the future"
by JH Reiman
https://digitalcommons.law.scu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1174&context=chtlj
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: SneakySecrets on January 08, 2023, 11:44:03 AM
We will all learn to adopt a public and private persona, both with assumed aliases, identifying information and physical appearance.  In the public world, I am Terrance, gainfully employed tax-payer, rule follower and patriot.  In private, I strap on a prosthetic chin and am Zao54, black hat anarchist hacker and mercenary, payable in Bitcoin or bricks of fentanyl.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: MtnDoucheBag on January 08, 2023, 12:07:25 PM
We will all learn to adopt a public and private persona, both with assumed aliases, identifying information and physical appearance.  In the public world, I am Terrance, gainfully employed tax-payer, rule follower and patriot.  In private, I strap on a prosthetic chin and am Zao54, black hat anarchist hacker and mercenary, payable in Bitcoin or bricks of fentanyl.

This is true.

Also, you might want to invest in a clone of yourself (or several). Put each of you on all parts of the globe, confuse the hell out em’.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: Allen. on January 08, 2023, 01:11:05 PM

It’s been published that for 2050 the biggest cause of dead will be associated with bacterial resistance to meds. YES NUMBER ONE IN THE WORLD.


I thought juicy j prophesied that 2050 was the year of trippy individuals

In all seriousness it’s wild how quickly shits changed from the time of the original post
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: usehername720 on January 08, 2023, 01:30:18 PM
Getting a ticket with a pic of yourself in a fresh fit mid trick would be hard af
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: Gab on January 08, 2023, 01:41:09 PM
THEY can also analyze your gait if you are wearing a mask. Not far off to imagine big data can analyzed your push and take your board away if your social credit score drops.

That’s why I always walk differently when I’m committing crimes
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: landedprimo on January 08, 2023, 01:41:55 PM
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THEY can also analyze your gait if you are wearing a mask. Not far off to imagine big data can analyzed your push and take your board away if your social credit score drops.
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That’s why I always walk differently when I’m committing crimes

A walk with extra swagger
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: a1d on January 08, 2023, 01:53:42 PM
Getting a ticket with a pic of yourself in a fresh fit mid trick would be hard af
don't give nyjah any graphic ideas
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: Wienerboy on January 08, 2023, 01:54:31 PM
It’s going to suck when the cctv records you then they send out armed robot dogs to make you stop or apprehend you.

https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/robot-police-dogs-are-here-should-we-be-worried

I'll bet this is absolutely going to happen so thanks a lot for putting it out there
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: Perforated Opinions on January 08, 2023, 03:32:58 PM
Pin this thread and give this guy TKP a bottle of sparkling wine.
Title: Re: An unseen threat to street skateboarding
Post by: greenbeans on January 08, 2023, 03:53:44 PM
This could have been avoided by simply electing not to upload pictures of my face to the internet.
God i wish i never did it. Fuckin internet ruined America.

Stupid people ruined the internet