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General Discussion => WHATEVER => Topic started by: Bumpovertrash on December 30, 2017, 01:37:01 AM
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Anybody here familiar with Kratom? Good stuff you can order it online for cheap. I tried it a few weeks ago for the first time with my friend he had green vain. Got some and have been taking it daily since. Makes me focused snd have alot of energy and in a good mood . 2.5 Grams of kratom smoke some weed and im super on point skating.Need to find a better way to dose then just water.
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Wasn't it made illegal in the U.S. recently? Or did that get overturned?
I went through a period of taking it, cause I have low-energy problems, and it's basically like a natural Adderall type thing.
It gave me energy for sure, but even just drinking coffee makes me uncomfortable, so I stopped cause it was giving me anxiety. Uppers are not for me.
I've read it works amazingly well, for people going through opiate withdrawal, so that's really cool.
I wish more research would be done into that, rather than Suboxone and Methadone type things.
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It's still legal. I believe it was the only time in U.S. history that a drug wasn't scheduled due to the public fighting back and pressuring the DEA. It's legality probably won't last for much longer though, as it's becoming more well known as an opiate substitute. I took around 10 grams for two years and quit cold turkey a couple months ago no problem without missing work or anything, the withdrawals were there but not bad. Honestly it really helped me deal with anxiety issues that I was able to work through, and maybe never would have otherwise. I back it.
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Anyone use kratom to get of of heavy opiates prescription? Doctor is discouraging using it. Imagine that.
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https://youtu.be/OyYtCwMct9M
I know many people hate Joe, but they talked about this stuff on his show last year.
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I’ve been taking Kratom for like 2 months now. I love it. It completely halted my constant tramadol thoughts and cravings.
I can walk normally and skate mostly normal on kratom. without Kratom or pain pills tho I can’t really skate at all.
I am actually social and friendly at work now and with family. Usually I spend holidays in my room but this year I was out chatting with everyone with my cup of Kratom.
I’ve been ordering from bestbuybotanicals.com they have excellent quality and the best prices/free shipping.
I take about 8 grams and then a 3 gram bump after an hour or 2.
I mentioned it in the weed thread but I’m also smoking significantly less weed these days too, it curbs my appetite so I just eat once a day and I’ve lost some weight too.
White Maeng da is my current favorite strain. I usually mix the White MD, green horn, and red bentangie for my dose.
I’m trying to get in the business of selling it too, locally at least. I’ve been giving out free samples to all my homies and co workers.
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I just got a batch from garden of eden herbals , called silver grandpa. The leaves come from trees that are a minimum for 30 meters tall ( for all Grandfather strains) This strain is really energizing and awesome, long half like too. Def recommend.
Gardenofedenherbals.com
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Suggestions on how to get this nastiness down the throat?
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I put my dose in a half full water bottle and shake it up well, the. just chug. You get used to the taste. You can mix it with orange juice, or chocolate milk/hot coco, mix into yogurt or applesauce.
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I used to just capsule it up myself, I was never able to get used to the taste.
You can order empty pill capsules online for super cheap, they might sell them at like CVS too.
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I used to just capsule it up myself, I was never able to get used to the taste.
You can order empty pill capsules online for super cheap, they might sell them at like CVS too.
Yep, they come in different sizes to be 0, 00, 000
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I used to just capsule it up myself, I was never able to get used to the taste.
You can order empty pill capsules online for super cheap, they might sell them at like CVS too.
Yep, they come in different sizes to be 0, 00, 000
Got some emptys at the health store today. Tried it in OJ, never in chocolate milk though. Not a taste I could see myself ever getting use to, but who knows.
Also, I haven't heard someone talk about parachuting in decades. Found a five gallon drum of phenobarbital once at a flea market. Bought it for a few bucks. So much of it we just ended up making huge parachutes and being dumb for a free months
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The only problem with ordering caps is having to take 10-15 pills at once.
Normal is like .5 g in a cap, big ones can fir 900mg, so even then, i take ten grams to start and more through out the day. it's convenient but not without its own drawbacks.
I bought lime juice today, i have my morning dose for tomorrow in a cup in the fridge, soaking in the lime juice.
That helps bring out more of the good stuff for you body to absorb.
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Yeah I meant to mention that you'll need to swallow a lot of caps, depending on your dosage.
I still much preferred that, to taking it in oj or tea though.
And I'm jealous of the people in here, saying it helped them with their anxiety issues, since it did the opposite for me.
Also made me weirdly sweaty.
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I over did it with the kratom for the first time today, that silver grandfather is extremely potent.
I took 10 gs and then a 5 gram booster 30 min later. I usually take the booster 3 hours later, so i'm sure that was my mistake. I was sweaty/clamy and nauseous for about an hour.
If it made you feel bad childhood, you might have just had too much. Lot's of people dose around 2-3 grams.
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Anyone use kratom to get of of heavy opiates prescription? Doctor is discouraging using it. Imagine that.
i self tapered of suboxin and i'm 3 days clean of them via kratom.
don't wanna make a career of this personally since i've been swallowing spiders to catch flies for a dog's age but i feel good.
my mom gave me a kratom juice in the midst of methadone sick and it didn't help but if you taper first, it's a godsend.
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I just got a batch from garden of eden herbals , called silver grandpa. The leaves come from trees that are a minimum for 30 meters tall ( for all Grandfather strains) This strain is really energizing and awesome, long half like too. Def recommend.
Gardenofedenherbals.com
Did they just have a huge sale, or do they sell out of everything as soon as it comes in or something? There's like two varieties in stock.
I've been interested in getting some 000 caps and giving it a go. I tried once before, but we had been drinking, and couldn't figure out a way to get it down without wretching.
I just made a paste and managed to choke down 8 or so g's someone left me a long time ago, but I've got no idea the quality.
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They sell out pretty fast. They did just restock today Grandfather X and gmd#4 those are great. I think they are gettin a bunch in by next week.
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Best Buy botanicals has good quality in stock right now. Super green Malay, red maeng da, white maeng da are really good. The only strain that didn’t work for me from them was the elephant.
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I fux HARD with Kratom, been doing it for years and it barely does anything for me anymore, however. I buy kilograms from Canopy Botanicals, they hella cheap
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I want some. I don't know what I need it for but I have a feeling it will solve everything
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I fux HARD with Kratom, been doing it for years and it barely does anything for me anymore, however. I buy kilograms from Canopy Botanicals, they hella cheap
Have you tried their extract? I’ve been thinking of getting some.
Also I’m excited I just got a kilo in the mail yesterday to flip and I have 250gs arriving today and 2.5 more kilos here on Monday.
Ordered from bbb and mystic island. Total was $240 for 3.75 kilos.
I sell the kilos for $100 or $110 locally and people are happy to pay that price, which is cool for me lol. All the local stores sell for $1-2 a g.
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Boi you better add another 20 to the kilos and sell them Os for 10 boi.
My back and ankle muscles are sore from a 4 stair battle last night so ill be able to test the painkilling effects today. Stairs hell naw that's not me.
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Anyone use kratom to get of of heavy opiates prescription? Doctor is discouraging using it. Imagine that.
don't wanna make a career of this personally since i've been swallowing spiders to catch flies for a dog's age but i feel good.
my mom gave me a kratom juice in the midst of methadone sick and it didn't help but if you taper first, it's a godsend.
However you been feeling these past 30 days Sniffer?
Also, anyone have the buy it alls since the FDA ramped up there (Powell) propaganda a couple days ago? If they call Kratom a full on opiate, they'll have to call Imodium an imposter at the same time.
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I don't know what I need it for but I have a feeling it will solve everything
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Killed my back pain, ankle still sore. Might try tianeptine, hear its good iv'd,,wish odsmt was cheaper. I can get cherratussin ac OTC in my state but the only indie pharmacy that will do it raised the price from $12 to $26, not worth it imo.
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Shits horribly addicting just like opiates. Drink a beer, smoke some weed.
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Shits horribly addicting just like opiates. Drink a beer, smoke some weed.
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Shits horribly addicting just like opiates. Drink a beer, smoke some weed.
You're not wrong, it's def addicting. I'm gonna try to quit it soon, I'm so sick of waking up hella tired every morning no matter how much I sleep. I ordered some Gabapentin online... replacing one thing with another! Classic!
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Shits horribly addicting just like opiates. Drink a beer, smoke some weed.
You're not wrong, it's def addicting. I'm gonna try to quit it soon, I'm so sick of waking up hella tired every morning no matter how much I sleep. I ordered some Gabapentin online... replacing one thing with another! Classic!
yo! don't fuck w/ that gabba bullshit. it stops your brain from being able to produce new neurons. shit is prolly gonna get recalled down the road on some class action brain death settlement. or maybe i'm believing the sky is falling hype but i wouldn't swallow that spider.
http://fibromyalgiaresources.com/neurontin-lyrica-death-sentence-new-brain-synapses/
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Shits horribly addicting just like opiates. Drink a beer, smoke some weed.
You're not wrong, it's def addicting. I'm gonna try to quit it soon, I'm so sick of waking up hella tired every morning no matter how much I sleep. I ordered some Gabapentin online... replacing one thing with another! Classic!
I think maybe you should just cold turkey it, not ingest any “chemical substances” for a little while. Let you body recuperate. Healthy food, exercise, try to have a normal sleep schedule. Fuck taking one thing to replace another.
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I sell high quality Kratom at competitive prices hmu. I price match too.
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whats the best strain to mimmic opiates?
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Reds usually have the closest feel to that, I have a blend of red Ketapang red bentangie and red Hulu, it’s excellent to me and my customers have also really liked it. It’s close to a hydrocodone feel.
Most people I sell to locally prefer white strains.
My red blend is called Dark Knight.
To me they all feel somewhat like a pain pillI do bigger amounts as well. 1/4 kilo is 29 shipped.
I do kilos for $80 with priority shipping included in the price.
There’s really not like 1 single strain that mimics opioids the most.
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Reds usually have the closest feel to that, I have a blend of red Ketapang red bentangie and red Hulu, it’s excellent to me and my customers have also really liked it. It’s close to a hydrocodone feel.
Most people I sell to locally prefer white strains.
My red blend is called Dark Knight.
To me they all feel somewhat like a pain pill.
I have samplers too. 5 - 20 gram bags of different strains and blends for 100 grams total for $17 shipping included. Or you can pick s single strain and get 100gs for $14 shipping included in the US. I do bigger amounts as well. 1/4 kilo is 26 shipped.
I do kilos for $80 with priority shipping included in the price.
There’s really not like 1 single strain that mimics opioids the most.
PM'ed :)
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Reds usually have the closest feel to that, I have a blend of red Ketapang red bentangie and red Hulu, it’s excellent to me and my customers have also really liked it. It’s close to a hydrocodone feel.
Most people I sell to locally prefer white strains.
My red blend is called Dark Knight.
To me they all feel somewhat like a pain pill.
I have samplers too. 5 - 20 gram bags of different strains and blends for 100 grams total for $17 shipping included. Or you can pick s single strain and get 100gs for $14 shipping included in the US. I do bigger amounts as well. 1/4 kilo is 26 shipped.
I do kilos for $80 with priority shipping included in the price.
There’s really not like 1 single strain that mimics opioids the most.
PM'ed :)
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Reds usually have the closest feel to that, I have a blend of red Ketapang red bentangie and red Hulu, it’s excellent to me and my customers have also really liked it. It’s close to a hydrocodone feel.
Most people I sell to locally prefer white strains.
My red blend is called Dark Knight.
To me they all feel somewhat like a pain pill.
I have samplers too. 5 - 20 gram bags of different strains and blends for 100 grams total for $17 shipping included. Or you can pick s single strain and get 100gs for $14 shipping included in the US. I do bigger amounts as well. 1/4 kilo is 26 shipped.
I do kilos for $80 with priority shipping included in the price.
There’s really not like 1 single strain that mimics opioids the most.
Do you ship to Canada? My interest is piqued
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Reds usually have the closest feel to that, I have a blend of red Ketapang red bentangie and red Hulu, it’s excellent to me and my customers have also really liked it. It’s close to a hydrocodone feel.
Most people I sell to locally prefer white strains.
My red blend is called Dark Knight.
To me they all feel somewhat like a pain pill.
I have samplers too. 5 - 20 gram bags of different strains and blends for 100 grams total for $17 shipping included. Or you can pick s single strain and get 100gs for $14 shipping included in the US. I do bigger amounts as well. 1/4 kilo is 26 shipped.
I do kilos for $80 with priority shipping included in the price.
There’s really not like 1 single strain that mimics opioids the most.
PM'ed :)
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Reds usually have the closest feel to that, I have a blend of red Ketapang red bentangie and red Hulu, it’s excellent to me and my customers have also really liked it. It’s close to a hydrocodone feel.
Most people I sell to locally prefer white strains.
My red blend is called Dark Knight.
To me they all feel somewhat like a pain pill.
I have samplers too. 5 - 20 gram bags of different strains and blends for 100 grams total for $17 shipping included. Or you can pick s single strain and get 100gs for $14 shipping included in the US. I do bigger amounts as well. 1/4 kilo is 26 shipped.
I do kilos for $80 with priority shipping included in the price.
There’s really not like 1 single strain that mimics opioids the most.
Do you ship to Canada? My interest is piqued
I’ve never done it before, idk how much more it would cost
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Reds usually have the closest feel to that, I have a blend of red Ketapang red bentangie and red Hulu, it’s excellent to me and my customers have also really liked it. It’s close to a hydrocodone feel.
Most people I sell to locally prefer white strains.
My red blend is called Dark Knight.
To me they all feel somewhat like a pain pill.
I have samplers too. 5 - 20 gram bags of different strains and blends for 100 grams total for $17 shipping included. Or you can pick s single strain and get 100gs for $14 shipping included in the US. I do bigger amounts as well. 1/4 kilo is 26 shipped.
I do kilos for $80 with priority shipping included in the price.
There’s really not like 1 single strain that mimics opioids the most.
Do you ship to Canada? My interest is piqued
Couldn't see it being much more than the US. I'm def. Down to try it
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Was supposed to squirt kratom juice in my butt this morning but forgot and drank it. I'll try tomorrow and report back with a verdict. If it works my theory is you could take a high dose that way without the stomach discomfort associated with high doses. Not sure if the plant matter or the compounds in it are mostly responsible for stomach discomfort so I will test it out and see.
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Reds usually have the closest feel to that, I have a blend of red Ketapang red bentangie and red Hulu, it’s excellent to me and my customers have also really liked it. It’s close to a hydrocodone feel.
Most people I sell to locally prefer white strains.
My red blend is called Dark Knight.
To me they all feel somewhat like a pain pill.
I have samplers too. 5 - 20 gram bags of different strains and blends for 100 grams total for $17 shipping included. Or you can pick s single strain and get 100gs for $14 shipping included in the US. I do bigger amounts as well. 1/4 kilo is 26 shipped.
I do kilos for $80 with priority shipping included in the price.
There’s really not like 1 single strain that mimics opioids the most.
Do you ship to Canada? My interest is piqued
Couldn't see it being much more than the US. I'm def. Down to try it
I have a few orders to ship tomorrow, I’ll ask about canada
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Reds usually have the closest feel to that, I have a blend of red Ketapang red bentangie and red Hulu, it’s excellent to me and my customers have also really liked it. It’s close to a hydrocodone feel.
Most people I sell to locally prefer white strains.
My red blend is called Dark Knight.
To me they all feel somewhat like a pain pill.
I have samplers too. 5 - 20 gram bags of different strains and blends for 100 grams total for $17 shipping included. Or you can pick s single strain and get 100gs for $14 shipping included in the US. I do bigger amounts as well. 1/4 kilo is 26 shipped.
I do kilos for $80 with priority shipping included in the price.
There’s really not like 1 single strain that mimics opioids the most.
reported.
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This is all very interesting but im just not sure I need kratom in my life.
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Low-dose kratom is great if you want something a little less. I order white maeng da and put it in capsules, 5-6 capsules (I'm not small - 225ish lbs) isn't even a buzz, just a nice uptick in mood and a little more energy. I don't drink coffee or energy drinks but most people liken small doses like that to a strong coffee rather than any sort of opiate. I've never felt any sort of addictive effects, either. It's all very much an individual response sorta thing.
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Low-dose kratom is great if you want something a little less. I order white maeng da and put it in capsules, 5-6 capsules (I'm not small - 225ish lbs) isn't even a buzz, just a nice uptick in mood and a little more energy. I don't drink coffee or energy drinks but most people liken small doses like that to a strong coffee rather than any sort of opiate. I've never felt any sort of addictive effects, either. It's all very much an individual response sorta thing.
From all the reading and listening to podcasts on this recently I'm leaning towards micro dosing psilocybin rather than kratom.
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Just try both. Anyways is always good to have kratom around in the house, its super useful. If you get sick, have pains, need a mood boost or just to relax.
I ain't stickin kratom juice in my butt though, too much liquid even when I reduce it.
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Just try both. Anyways is always good to have kratom around in the house, its super useful. If you get sick, have pains, need a mood boost or just to relax.
I ain't stickin kratom juice in my butt though, too much liquid even when I reduce it.
do it for science
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Just try both. Anyways is always good to have kratom around in the house, its super useful. If you get sick, have pains, need a mood boost or just to relax.
I ain't stickin kratom juice in my butt though, too much liquid even when I reduce it.
do it capsule style like curbsmash
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Just try both. Anyways is always good to have kratom around in the house, its super useful. If you get sick, have pains, need a mood boost or just to relax.
I ain't stickin kratom juice in my butt though, too much liquid even when I reduce it.
do it capsule style like curbsmash
Stay away from the size 000 capsules if you're sticking 'em up there, though.
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With the help of Kratom- I’ve literally been working harder these last 6-7 months than I have in my entire life. Been bustin major ass to be the best at work, running my skate brand Allergies, and selling Kratom. I’m always busy af now but with Kratom I’m always happy and extremely motivated.
I’ve never been a hard working or ambitious person before. I even smoke way less weed now.
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With the help of Kratom- I’ve literally been working harder these last 6-7 months than I have in my entire life. Been bustin major ass to be the best at work, running my skate brand Allergies, and selling Kratom. I’m always busy af now but with Kratom I’m always happy and extremely motivated.
I’ve never been a hard working or ambitious person before. I even smoke way less weed now.
Lol that's what weed does for me!
Good for you, funny how things effects us different, especially with natural medicines.
I'd still love to try kratom/CBD/cannabis/cbn combo for a few months, oh and mushrooms
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With the help of Kratom- I’ve literally been working harder these last 6-7 months than I have in my entire life. Been bustin major ass to be the best at work, running my skate brand Allergies, and selling Kratom. I’m always busy af now but with Kratom I’m always happy and extremely motivated.
I’ve never been a hard working or ambitious person before. I even smoke way less weed now.
Lol that's what weed does for me!
Good for you, funny how things effects us different, especially with natural medicines.
I'd still love to try kratom/CBD/cannabis/cbn combo for a few months, oh and mushrooms
The effects of Kratom are really pretty much all the things that you really dislike about pain pills.
Kratom would have all the effects you usually describe not liking.
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Side note: I’ve got some mega fire premium maeng da right now, along with a bunch of other great leaf.
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Hopefully over time farmers can increase potency of their plants kinda like the weed game, that would be tight. I found that strain name and color make little difference, its all about the potency and dose. I wish indo sources were cheaper without having to buy a shitload so I could be better informed of the potency of the different farms leaves.
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I jut got in a new batch of maeng das, white, red, green. It’s legit some of the absolute best Kratom I’ve ever had, my local customers have been loving it too.
The white is awesome energy and a lot of happiness.
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I may have already posted here, but I get my Kratom from Johnes and can verify that it is very good. I haven’t felt these levels of energy and functionality since before my knee surgery, and now, as one of my friends puts it, I feel like I have superpowers when I skate.
Even slams don’t hurt, they just drive the motivation through the roof.
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Here to second Blind Fisherman’s comment. Johnes is a good dude. Even hit me up afterward to see how I’m doing. Going for round three pretty soon.
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White bentuangie originating from vlnt is my favorite one I've tried so far, I've tried quite a few. Super potent and long lasting. Ima stick with this from now on, found my one.
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So the white md sounded up my ally. What I saw recommended for dosage was like a teaspoon. Is it fine to take it on an empty stomach? Also, is there a time of day where I shouldn't take it? I generally don't drink coffee after 12 because I don't want it to keep me up.
A tea spoon is more of a test size; just to make sure your body doesn’t react badly, like upset stomach)You might feel effects at that 1 tsp but 2 flat leveled tea spoons (5g) is a bit more ideal
Baw earlier this year i got white bent from vlnt via botanical bunny, it didn’t work for me. But that’s great finding a good one for you.
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Ya its a bitch trying to find a good one but that's half the fun, good luck on the kratom trappin ;)
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It's good to get a few different strains, that way you don't get super accustomed to one and build a tolerance to the effects. Lots of sites sell sample packs, those are great. Generally white vein = daytime, red vein = night, but tbh I can take any kind at any point in the day and it'll be all good.
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Thanks guys, I bought a kilo just so I could feel like scarface (feels badass buying a kilo of anything). It will likely go bad before I can use it all. Perhaps I will share it will friends and whatnot. I'll go 2 teaspoons minimum tomorrow just to make sure it is fun.
Keep it in a cool dry place and it will last years.
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Btw y’all I might have said this but I’ll price match most of the websites out there on ounces, 250gs and 100g with their shipping cost factored in. I can’t compete with $65/70 kilos tho, it’s be more like 80-85 from me but I’ll do up to 8 way kilos splits for 85 plus shipping. $80 for a single strain.
Also I can try to match 500g prices if you send me th link to the pricing.
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Is that stuff in the front of the gas station that’s labeled kratom actually kratom?
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Ya just super overpriced. One company added odsmt to a extract product back in the day though.
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I’ve been getting more and more of my skate friends to take Kratom. We all skate like confident pimps.
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I’ve been getting more and more of my skate friends to take Kratom. We all skate like confident pimps.
Send me a fuckin sample, please.
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I’ve been getting more and more of my skate friends to take Kratom. We all skate like confident pimps.
For anyone on the fence, Johnes has great prices and the quality is really good.
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I’ve been getting more and more of my skate friends to take Kratom. We all skate like confident pimps.
For anyone on the fence, Johnes has great prices and the quality is really good.
Good to hear cause I'm trying to get an order to canada. I think kratom CBD cannabis and mushrooms will fulfill my rotation
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Grabbed 15grams of Bali from a headshop in capsule form, 25 pills with .6 apiece. Had been taking two at noon for boredom at work and its been great, keeps me energized and keeps the mind moving.
So, as you do, I decided to double the dose yesterday. Fucking bad call.
It was great for an hour then out of nowhere I started getting super overheated and nauseous. If I ever got comfortable all it would take for the nausea to return was simply looking a centimeter in any direction. I had to lay down in the shade and had sparkles in my vision, had weird pseudo dreams and visions all while sweating a ton. For two and a half hours. Luckily it was slow as shit or I woulda been fucked. Shit was a nightmare. Wanted to puke but couldn't.. anyway, any of you had something like this happen?
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That’s just the classic overdose. Nausea, sweating, everything you said can happen to anyone who takes a little too much. I’ve thrown up from taking too much a couple times.
Laying down and riding it out is pretty much all you can do.
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Narcan lol
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Grabbed 15grams of Bali from a headshop in capsule form, 25 pills with .6 apiece. Had been taking two at noon for boredom at work and its been great, keeps me energized and keeps the mind moving.
So, as you do, I decided to double the dose yesterday. Fucking bad call.
It was great for an hour then out of nowhere I started getting super overheated and nauseous. If I ever got comfortable all it would take for the nausea to return was simply looking a centimeter in any direction. I had to lay down in the shade and had sparkles in my vision, had weird pseudo dreams and visions all while sweating a ton. For two and a half hours. Luckily it was slow as shit or I woulda been fucked. Shit was a nightmare. Wanted to puke but couldn't.. anyway, any of you had something like this happen?
CEO of a Fortune 500?
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Got some major pain killing Red Bali.
This is such a good batch and it’s from trees that are at least 80 feet tall which in theory means it should be stronger quality than smaller trees although it depends a lot on the drying method but idk.
Also have Red Horn that’s really green in color and man it’s been awesome for daytime, the last couple days I’ve been mixing the white and red horn for daytime and it’s epic.
Anyone get any really good strains lately?
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is the red bali known to be a substitute for pain killers? been taking maeng for a month and it's been helping me kick the habit.
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is the red bali known to be a substitute for pain killers? been taking maeng for a month and it's been helping me kick the habit.
All vein types are good for that.
It’s kind of myth online that one is better than another.
It all depends on the person taking it and how their body reacts.
I do have Maeng das in all vein types too.
The only true Kraton strains are Borneo’s and Horns and elephant
Everything else is blended to create strain by the farmer in Indonesia.
Borneo’s can often be blended too.
I hardly ever take one single strain, I experiment with blending until I find which kinds I like best and they offer those to my customers unless they really want something specific like white Maeng da or super green Malay for example.
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Sounds like a Superman villain.
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Sounds like a Superman villain.
On Kratom you’d think you could rival Superman lol.
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I bought a bag of this shit from a gas station on Saturday ate like a tablespoon and haven't shit since fuck you guys
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McDonalds will cure you
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Fuck Kratom. It’s addicting and not a lot of research has been done into it’s effect long term. Watching multiple friends wasting money they don’t have on this shit and constantly staying high on it.
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Some kid in my city died from just two capsules of Kratom he bought at the store a couple months ago. That shit is not Shalom at all
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Some kid in my city died from just two capsules of Kratom he bought at the store a couple months ago. That shit is not Shalom at all
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Some kid in my city died from just two capsules of Kratom he bought at the store a couple months ago. That shit is not Shalom at all
Yeah, sure he did. I've taken enough kratom and everything else under the sun to know this is some bullshit. Take it yourself and find out or fuck off.
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I still don't understand the point of taking kratom. Is it like taking mild opiates?
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Some kid in my city died from just two capsules of Kratom he bought at the store a couple months ago. That shit is not Shalom at all
Yeah, sure he did. I've taken enough kratom and everything else under the sun to know this is some bullshit. Take it yourself and find out or fuck off.
https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/region-tampa/mother-suing-tampa-gas-station-that-sold-her-son-deadly-kratom-according-to-lawsuit?_amp=true
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I still don't understand the point of taking kratom. Is it like taking mild opiates?
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I still don't understand the point of taking kratom. Is it like taking mild opiates?
Yes
Sometimes they feel more like a stimulating type of thang... but I suppose if someone is new to Kratom they probably all feel pretty opi'd
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I'm going to go to the store and pick some up tomorrow. What should I actually look to buy?
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Some kid in my city died from just two capsules of Kratom he bought at the store a couple months ago. That shit is not Shalom at all
Yeah, sure he did. I've taken enough kratom and everything else under the sun to know this is some bullshit. Take it yourself and find out or fuck off.
https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/region-tampa/mother-suing-tampa-gas-station-that-sold-her-son-deadly-kratom-according-to-lawsuit?_amp=true
If you think I'm going to believe some bullshit reporter that knows nothing about Kratom (other than how to make a story out of it), I'm not. Stuff like this aggravates the shit out of me and is directly related to the "opiate (fentanyl) epidemic" our lawmakers continue to perpetuate.
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Don’t take it everyday.
After about 2 years of heavy kratom use, I find myself getting mild anxiety attacks and diarrhea if I go too long without taking it.
I got the agmatine to try and help me taper down.
Learn from my mistakes.
Kratom still works great for me tho.
It’s really the pain killing and stimulant effect that I love about it.
People wondering what’s the appeal; it keeps me motivated as fuck and able to go 100mph when I’m at work and skating.
Typically I don’t even take any after 5 pm but if I sleep later than 7am, I start having feelings of unease in my dreams, like annoying feeling dreams.
I know it’s going to be rough when I eventually have to quit in the future.
I have a few friends who take it once or twice a week and have been taking it for around 6 months and still are perfectly able to keep their use in check. I’m def not that kinda person. I go hard with every substance I’ve ever taken.
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I bought a bag of this shit from a gas station on Saturday ate like a tablespoon and haven't shit since fuck you guys
Lolol, fiber pills or magnesium citrate bro.
My body has acclimated at this point to where I don’t need to take fiber anymore.
I shit just fine now but that first year, I was taking ten or more fiber pills a day.
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Update: Kratom is great and shitting is overrated anyway
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I've been taking kratom everyday for the past 10 years. I just ate 28g of some good red Bali. I take around 2oz a day and the withdrawals suck but they're nothing compared to benzo withdrawals or real opiate withdrawals. I've tried every type of kratom from different vendors and red Bali is the most pain relieving/sedating. Green Malay is good too. And yeah, taking a shit is overrated. Take some magnesium and you won't have
any problems.
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I take ~2 grams before breakfast and the same around 2pm, like 7 hours later, usually with coffee. This shit is great at killing anxiety and boosting energy and motivation. I go with two different green strains on work days, one maeng da and the other name escapes me, usually maeng da second. On my days off I take a red, shit is awesome.
A local smoke shop sells those strains for 75 cents a gram, it's pretty sweet. They don't carry a white strain though, anybody have any experience with those?
Anyway, the super confidence from kratom is better than anything I've found. Adderall I'm too aggressive, and booze has about fifty negative side effects to its two or so quickly fleeting benefits. Weed is paranoia fuel. This shit is helping me quit booze (Day 8) along with This Naked Mind.
Not looking forward to kratom withdrawals but I figure I can taper off like with booze. Any experience with WD's?
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I bought a kilo a while ago to feel like a G but have not used much of it. The only way to consume it, in my opinion is to put it in capsules. It takes quite a bit of effort to put it into capsules (not really, but I am lazy) so that is why I have not used it much. I spent I think 60$ on the kilo, so I won't throw it out. I thought it felt cool, I think it was white maeng? Pretty mellow. The thing I liked best is the poops!!!
Don't buy from gas stations. I bought from the site that Johnes referenced (might have been someone else). They were legit.
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I take ~2 grams before breakfast and the same around 2pm, like 7 hours later, usually with coffee. This shit is great at killing anxiety and boosting energy and motivation. I go with two different green strains on work days, one maeng da and the other name escapes me, usually maeng da second. On my days off I take a red, shit is awesome.
A local smoke shop sells those strains for 75 cents a gram, it's pretty sweet. They don't carry a white strain though, anybody have any experience with those?
Anyway, the super confidence from kratom is better than anything I've found. Adderall I'm too aggressive, and booze has about fifty negative side effects to its two or so quickly fleeting benefits. Weed is paranoia fuel. This shit is helping me quit booze (Day 8) along with This Naked Mind.
Not looking forward to kratom withdrawals but I figure I can taper off like with booze. Any experience with WD's?
White vein should hit you the same way you’re describing the green hitting.
Kratom strains are kind of a myth.
You won’t get any consistence from one vendors green Malay next to another’s, it’s not really a strain but more the way the kratom is dried that makes then decide what strain or “vein color” it will be.
You are taking a pretty small/responsible amount daily, withdrawal will most likely be lethargy and irritable feelings.
Side note:
I have had to raise my prices the last couple months, my wholesale prices have been going up but I’m still selling decent amount, I make about $80 extra bucks a week from it.
I still have a local smoke shop who buys 50-80 bags from me at a time and they are really what’s keeping me in the business of selling.
I sell 100 grams to my locals for $20 but online sales I try to do a little less on the price to compete with the big sites but these days i def can’t compete with lots of websites kilo deals.
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so, where's everyone at with their kratom use since 2019?
over the past few years there's been a proliferation of kava and kratom bars popping up all over the country. there's a kratom bar two blocks away from where I work, and I find myself getting a tea pretty much every day before I work. I usually go with a half green half white for that extra boost in mood and energy. I have to talk to people and be in a good mood for a living, so it definitely helps a lot. at the same time, the days I don't drink one, I don't really notice that much of a difference. I used to play at the jam nights (that they don't hold anymore) at this kava bar and they've cultivated a really solid and supportive community and I've made quite a few friends at that place, which adds some incentive to go.
I was sober (less the kratom) for 10 weeks over the summer and getting a tea at the end of the night helped curb any craving for alcohol. I'll admit that I've been using it more than I, "should," but I haven't really experienced many negative side affects other than occasionally having a hard time falling asleep. I keep some powder at home and consume it by mixing it with hot water and just chugging it down.
who else is loving (or hating) the green sludge?
Edit: I wanted to add an experience I had with concentrated OPMS pills - specifically the Black label... a few years ago I was in a sober living where I got drug tested regularly. While I was completely clean from everything else, there was a smoke shop within walking distance. One day, I decided to get a single OPMS Black pill. To make a long story short, I ended up having to leave the house due to insurance stating I no longer needed treatment, but shortly after leaving I got a phone call from the house manager to see how I was doing.
She then went on to tell me I had popped for MORPHINE! I was honest with her about the kratom, and after doing research, you only pop for something like morphine if you take actual morphine or a derivative of it.
If you take those concentrated pills, know that there is a high likelihood that there are synthetic opioids being mixed in.
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stay away from this stuff
this post paired with your sig made me laugh hard.
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i’ve taken kratom for about 5 years now, i started taking it after a car accident that left my shoulder badly injured because i didn’t want to start taking norcos again which i knew would eventually end up being roxys again & have me spiraling, especially with the fentanyl epidemic. in the beginning i admit i was taking way too much & getting really high. the “green sludge” always tasted like shit to me & the thickness/consistency of it to top that off made me throw up a lot, along with how much i was taking at one time. sometimes i would throw up after mixing it before even drinking it just from the thought/smell. sone people relate it to macha, i thought of the smell & (assumingely) the taste were much more like fish food. anyways, i cut down over time more & more to where i would take around 6 grams or so at a time. then slowly down to 3 & now i literally take one cap at a time (half a gram) which is hardly anything. i only still take it because the withdrawls are so bad for me, i stopped for a few days and went through hell before eventually giving up and buying more just to finally cut down to the bare minimum. this is coming from someone who used to take 10 norcos a day for a good while & up to 20 when i was injured a separate time. something about the withdrawals is worse for me than opiates, alcohol or any other drug have ever been. sometimes i feel the same feeling just from taking it. sometimes it feels like it does nothing, other times it completely shifts my mood or takes the pain away. i’ll wake up in the middle of the night & take one and fall back asleep for hours as well. i think it’s only when i’m withdrawing that it really becomes beneficial. it’s very hard for me to get off even at the most minimal dosage but i’m still trying. i don’t hate on it though for anyone that it truly helps & i definitely still recommend it over opiates obviously. that said, anyone who has successfully stopped, do you have any sort of tips as to how you did or what helped? anything would be appreciated.
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so, where's everyone at with their kratom use since 2019?
over the past few years there's been a proliferation of kava and kratom bars popping up all over the country. there's a kratom bar two blocks away from where I work, and I find myself getting a tea pretty much every day before I work. I usually go with a half green half white for that extra boost in mood and energy. I have to talk to people and be in a good mood for a living, so it definitely helps a lot. at the same time, the days I don't drink one, I don't really notice that much of a difference. I used to play at the jam nights (that they don't hold anymore) at this kava bar and they've cultivated a really solid and supportive community and I've made quite a few friends at that place, which adds some incentive to go.
I was sober (less the kratom) for 10 weeks over the summer and getting a tea at the end of the night helped curb any craving for alcohol. I'll admit that I've been using it more than I, "should," but I haven't really experienced many negative side affects other than occasionally having a hard time falling asleep. I keep some powder at home and consume it by mixing it with hot water and just chugging it down.
who else is loving (or hating) the green sludge?
Edit: I wanted to add an experience I had with concentrated OPMS pills - specifically the Black label... a few years ago I was in a sober living where I got drug tested regularly. While I was completely clean from everything else, there was a smoke shop within walking distance. One day, I decided to get a single OPMS Black pill. To make a long story short, I ended up having to leave the house due to insurance stating I no longer needed treatment, but shortly after leaving I got a phone call from the house manager to see how I was doing.
She then went on to tell me I had popped for MORPHINE! I was honest with her about the kratom, and after doing research, you only pop for something like morphine if you take actual morphine or a derivative of it.
If you take those concentrated pills, know that there is a high likelihood that there are synthetic opioids being mixed in.
That sounds a lot more like a super coincidental incorrect test or them making something up because someone claimed they knew you were using or something. Kratom is cheap as shit and has no supply issues whereas morphine and it's derivatives, as well as the precursors to process it into a derivative, are some of the most controlled substances on the planet and thus super fucking expensive. I can't see any person concerned with making money substituting one for the other.
Synthetic opioids are what's everywhere now, but they wouldn't make you pop for morphine/smack (for heroin they're testing specifically for 6-monoacetyl morphine or 6-mam)...you need a different test to detect them. I could maybe see someone stupid using fentanyl or an analog that way because China and Mexico have absolutely flooded the streets in ways the CIA could only dream of, but I can't imagine people going through the trouble of growing poppy in a lawless country, extracting morphine base, smuggling it out, converting it into hcl so it could be absorbed orally, and then putting it in kratom pills that would sell for a fraction of their investment and no one going "hey why don't we just sell heroin instead?"
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Took kratom as my "suboxone" to keep from getting sick during my opiate dependent years when I'd run out of my stash. 2015 - 2020 but would use semi-moderately before then. I had a bad oxy problem 2012 - 2014 followed by being clean for a bit. Got back into oxys in 2015 and that lead me to heroin pretty quick. Dealt with that till 2019 when I finally quit heroin. With how the opiate game is now with all the fent and xenes out there, it makes it hella easy to stay clean. Sometimes I wish I could still get heroin but my self control is pretty bad with it haha.
I just passed 4 years clean from H though. I kept on kratom for a full year and a few months after that, slowly tapering down. The kick isn't that bad at all if you do an extended taper. I quit at the end of 2020.
I still use kratom every now & then, whether it's a bad day and I have hella cravings for opiates or if I am in pain or something. It's definitely best used in moderation. I limit myself to once a week max, but realistically the most I've used since quitting opiates is like twice in a month. The shit from headshops is bunk, there's some good vendors online though. I've been using the same one since 2016.
I usually fuck with Red Bali and Red Maeng Da. Do like a tablespoon (~7 grams) worth of sludge in some water with lemon juice which helps make it stronger. Glad this shit is available, otherwise staying off legit opiates would be hard. Just enough to tickle my opiate receptors without making me chase the dragon.
But yeah, moderation is key with kratom. Being physically dependent on it is pretty shit. When I was dependent on it I'd have to dose like 3x a day to not get sick. I'd wake up sick all the time until I took my morning dose. It definitely has a shorter half life than heroin.
But at the end of the day, being dependent on kratom was easier to manage than being a dope fiend. That's for sure
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Kratom is a weird drug.
I feel like if you have never had a problem or extended relationship with opioids, there’s no point in fucking with it. I imagine opiate naive people could get really pretty high and have no idea what the WD they experience are from.
That said, the past few years if the itch comes, I could order a couple sacks from a particular vendor and not worry about using real drugs. Harm reduction is real! Even with the kratom though, it’s pretty easy to get high on it and lose a week or 5…
I feel like it’s a cheap high, regardless of quality and when it comes down to it, although not hitting the same receptors, weed does a better job at quelling anxiety, offering pain relief, etc.
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I ended up throwing almost all of mine away after a couple of years of it sitting in my closet. It tasted way too gross and I didn't like having to take so many capsules. I really enjoyed the fiber they had and the resulting bowel movements.
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I ended up throwing almost all of mine away after a couple of years of it sitting in my closet. It tasted way too gross and I didn't like having to take so many capsules. I really enjoyed the fiber they had and the resulting bowel movements.
By the time kratom became known about here my habit was already well past that point so I've never really had much luck with it, but your post made me wonder...does it constipate you like a traditional opiate? I would assume it would because it's basically doing the same thing (attach to mu and kappa receptor and stimulate), but from what I understand it's pretty weak comparatively speaking. In my experience it seems like a recipe for disaster to load yourself up on fiber while doing opiates haha... you'll get a whole new appreciation for the phrase "shit a brick"
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I ended up throwing almost all of mine away after a couple of years of it sitting in my closet. It tasted way too gross and I didn't like having to take so many capsules. I really enjoyed the fiber they had and the resulting bowel movements.
By the time kratom became known about here my habit was already well past that point so I've never really had much luck with it, but your post made me wonder...does it constipate you like a traditional opiate? I would assume it would because it's basically doing the same thing (attach to mu and kappa receptor and stimulate), but from what I understand it's pretty weak comparatively speaking. In my experience it seems like a recipe for disaster to load yourself up on fiber while doing opiates haha... you'll get a whole new appreciation for the phrase "shit a brick"
When I took kratom it was like taking a fiber supplement. Never had experience with opioids but kratom didn't cause any constipation for me at all.
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Opiates have helped me with pain, but they also make me a bit nauseous so I'd always reserve them for my peak moments, then kick back with some ginger ale and feel gross. After my back surgery, they had prescribed me some heavy shit (my wife's a nurse and she told me to be prepared to get knocked on my ass). Took 'em and felt awful... I wound up getting a medical cannabis referral and seeking out concentrates (which helps), but more recently my wife has been setting me up with red vein. I hate taking a stomach full of pills, but wow!
I had to find my dosage, at first they just made me go to sleep. Now though, I can legit feel some of the acute pain in both my back (rods/fused vertebrae) and under my knee (tibial plateau fracture/plate and eight pins) fade into the background. It's a fuckin' trip!
I don't dose every day though... my skating is pretty much reserved for Saturdays and Sundays, so I just skate without giving a fuck knowing I'll be in agony later (and sincerely try to limit my injuries to just simple slamming/no breaky breaky). Dose up on Sunday evening before food, then again over the next day or two depending on how busted I am. I sit and type at my computer for a living, so I just try to work and do as little as I can to aggravate anything, but by Wednesday the pain is way more tolerable.
I can't speak to issues with opiates, but I'm really hyped on the stuff... aside from the pain relief, I don't really get fucked up or anything, I just feel kinda "better" over all. It's not like being inebriated though.
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One of my best friends got addicted to this stuff and died from a seizure in his sleep. Don’t mess around with this stuff
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I too have also quit recently after drinking it religiously for about 5 years. I have this kratom bar that I live near that sells great Red Bali tea and at my peak recently I was drinking about 16 ozs two times a week (sometimes three). My biggest gripe with it was it messing up my libido. I also started to really hate the way it tasted. Once I started quitting I realized how much this stuff has a chokehold on me. I never had any problems with opiates and I just got into it for the relaxation effect. I’ve been sober off it for about 3 months now and I don’t think I’m ever going back.
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I've posed this question to several people, a few of them being heavily involved in the, "kratom," community:
If you regularly use kratom, but no other substances, would you consider yourself sober?
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Did you know that Sunny Siljic or whatever is Kratom's son?
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I ended up throwing almost all of mine away after a couple of years of it sitting in my closet. It tasted way too gross and I didn't like having to take so many capsules. I really enjoyed the fiber they had and the resulting bowel movements.
By the time kratom became known about here my habit was already well past that point so I've never really had much luck with it, but your post made me wonder...does it constipate you like a traditional opiate? I would assume it would because it's basically doing the same thing (attach to mu and kappa receptor and stimulate), but from what I understand it's pretty weak comparatively speaking. In my experience it seems like a recipe for disaster to load yourself up on fiber while doing opiates haha... you'll get a whole new appreciation for the phrase "shit a brick"
When I took kratom it was like taking a fiber supplement. Never had experience with opioids but kratom didn't cause any constipation for me at all.
My ex roomie was a heavy daily kratom user and I found laxative suppositories in my bathroom medicine cabinet when I moved in. I never asked what they were for but I kind of assumed it was due to the kratom use.
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I've posed this question to several people, a few of them being heavily involved in the, "kratom," community:
If you regularly use kratom, but no other substances, would you consider yourself sober?
I mean, it kinda depends you know. Idk about "sober" but you could say you're clean if you're using it to get off harder opioids/opiates. I looked at it as like a California sober type deal, but also a temporary thing that I was eventually going to taper off of.
I don't like the all or nothing mentality of sobriety as it is, so I don't really like using that term in general.
Also for the constipation questions in the thread, yeah I'd experience some mild constipation with Kratom. Nowhere close to normal opiates though, I do not miss the stabbing pains and not being able to get any relief bc my body was too relaxed and backed up. Talking like a week without taking a shit. I mean even pissing on normal opiates was a task. Sometimes the only way would be getting into a warm bath to take a piss. Don't miss that life really. I do wish opiates weren't so hard to get these days though. Seems like all the strict rules to make them harder to get is actually resulting in more deaths in the US since the alternative is street fentanyl and xenes. I swear shit was better in the pill mill days as far as deaths from overdoses. It seems better than what we've got right now where heroin is like extinct and fent is everywhere.
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I've posed this question to several people, a few of them being heavily involved in the, "kratom," community:
If you regularly use kratom, but no other substances, would you consider yourself sober?
I mean, it kinda depends you know. Idk about "sober" but you could say you're clean if you're using it to get off harder opioids/opiates. I looked at it as like a California sober type deal, but also a temporary thing that I was eventually going to taper off of.
I don't like the all or nothing mentality of sobriety as it is, so I don't really like using that term in general.
Also for the constipation questions in the thread, yeah I'd experience some mild constipation with Kratom. Nowhere close to normal opiates though, I do not miss the stabbing pains and not being able to get any relief bc my body was too relaxed and backed up. Talking like a week without taking a shit. I mean even pissing on normal opiates was a task. Sometimes the only way would be getting into a warm bath to take a piss. Don't miss that life really. I do wish opiates weren't so hard to get these days though. Seems like all the strict rules to make them harder to get is actually resulting in more deaths in the US since the alternative is street fentanyl and xenes. I swear shit was better in the pill mill days as far as deaths from overdoses. It seems better than what we've got right now where heroin is like extinct and fent is everywhere.
at least back then you more often than not knew what you were buying.
dope was heroin and a benign cut. oxy was oxy.
research chemicals are fucked up beyond belief.
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Opiates have helped me with pain, but they also make me a bit nauseous so I'd always reserve them for my peak moments, then kick back with some ginger ale and feel gross. After my back surgery, they had prescribed me some heavy shit (my wife's a nurse and she told me to be prepared to get knocked on my ass). Took 'em and felt awful... I wound up getting a medical cannabis referral and seeking out concentrates (which helps), but more recently my wife has been setting me up with red vein. I hate taking a stomach full of pills, but wow!
I had to find my dosage, at first they just made me go to sleep. Now though, I can legit feel some of the acute pain in both my back (rods/fused vertebrae) and under my knee (tibial plateau fracture/plate and eight pins) fade into the background. It's a fuckin' trip!
I don't dose every day though... my skating is pretty much reserved for Saturdays and Sundays, so I just skate without giving a fuck knowing I'll be in agony later (and sincerely try to limit my injuries to just simple slamming/no breaky breaky). Dose up on Sunday evening before food, then again over the next day or two depending on how busted I am. I sit and type at my computer for a living, so I just try to work and do as little as I can to aggravate anything, but by Wednesday the pain is way more tolerable.
I can't speak to issues with opiates, but I'm really hyped on the stuff... aside from the pain relief, I don't really get fucked up or anything, I just feel kinda "better" over all. It's not like being inebriated though.
Anything that stimulates your opiod receptors is going to be good for pain, relaxing, and euphoric. It just makes you feel good...they named it heroin after how heroic it makes you feel after all.
The issues come when you try to quit. I thought I knew what addiction was prior to that, but I was clueless.
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welp... reviving this thread to say...
I need help quitting this stuff. I have been using it for a help in energy boost and mood before work for about a year, but I sometimes work 6 days a week. I am not eating the stuff all day every day, and I have not noticed any negative side effects other than very occasionally feeling a little nauseous, but I am definitely using it as a crutch and becoming dependent on it for work and I don't like that. I will admit though, lately, I am taking it in the morning with my coffee and I really look forward to it. ugh. not cool, fineslime...
for those who have quit, how did you do it? whenever I have quit using something, I cold turkey it. it is hard for me to justify quitting it when it really does serve a purpose and helps me a ton when it comes to doing what I do for work. maybe that is me justifying my use, but I have not been kratom free for over a year, so in reality, I don't remember what it's like to not be on it for a long period of time.
if you have any help, advice, or words of encouragement about quitting, I would really appreciate it.