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Title: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Smartass on January 06, 2018, 11:16:29 AM
All the stuff from Otakuís 2017 Thread.

I know there is already a woodshop thread, but this seems like it could be helpful. I'll try to keep it updated, so feel free to contribute or correct, plus I cant remember any from pennswood or SC... I know scum.co is in there somewhere?

edit: I'll put an asterisk* beside companies using 2 or more

P.S. Stix:
FA/Hockey*
Welcome
917*
Habitat*
Quasi
Wknd
Toy Machine*
Lifeblood
Plan B
Element* (until mid 2018)
Pizza
Snack
Foundation(pro models)
Meow
Numbers*
Vagrant
Flip* (NA)
Street Plant
Paisley
Western Addition

BBS(bareback/generator):
DLX Brands
Baker
Alien Workshop
Polar
Magenta
Primitive
Alltimers
Habitat*
FA/Hockey*
Deathwish
Heroin
Isle
Black Label
Birdhouse
Theories
Toy Machine*
Sk8Mafia
DGK
$lave
The Killing Floor
Hook-Ups/JK Industries
Traffic
Pass-Port
Frog
Scram
917*
Doom Sayers
Hoddle
Love.Sick
Zero*
Blood Wizard
Numbers*
Carpet Co.
Element* 2018+

Dwindle(DSM):
Enjoi
Santa Cruz
Almost
Darkstar
Blind
Palace
Creature
5Boro
Flip?
Evisen
Skateboard Cafe(rumored to be moving to HLC)
Zero* (EU/Asia)
Globe

Control:
Studio
Birch
Scum Co.* (logo decks)

Pennswood:
American Nomad
Scum Co. *
Coda
Lovenskate
TERROR OF PLANET X

South Central:
Bacon
Dieta
Fixer
Vacation
Politic
Northern Co.*
5boro

Chapman:
Zoo York
Hopps
Supreme
Hotel Blue
Adult Inc

Quincy:
Lurkvillie
Space Program

Jart(HLC):
Sk8Mafia(Europe)
Jart
Cruzade
Sour
Habitat(Europe)
Flip(Europe)
The National Skateboard Co.
SOVRN(Europe)

Watson:
Stereo(re-issue)
Blockhead
Assault

Prime:
Fixer
Dead-End
Stereo
Blue

Clutch:
Lewis Cruise
Brujaria
Program
Northern Co.* (2018+)

Dailan Huahong(China):
Chocolate
Girl
Toy Machine*(NA: price-point, EU: Pro Boards etc.)
Foundation?
Alien Workshop* (Euro/price point boards?)
Plan B* (Euro/price point boards?)
Element* (Euro/price point boards?)
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: perverted super otaku! on January 06, 2018, 11:26:38 AM
Ahh nice! was hoping someone would start a new one, it's a nice resource for people I think, myself included, cheers man   :D
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: micky682 on January 06, 2018, 01:02:49 PM
917 is Generator.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: fat philly skater on January 06, 2018, 01:13:16 PM
chapman does supreme boards i'm pretty sure for the few people who are gonna skate them
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Smartass on January 06, 2018, 03:00:50 PM
Ahh nice! was hoping someone would start a new one, it's a nice resource for people I think, myself included, cheers man   :D

No worries and honestly you guys did all the work.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: nosneb on January 06, 2018, 04:15:18 PM
Hotel Blue is chapman as well
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: colt cannon lunchbox on January 06, 2018, 05:33:59 PM
Is Aus getting the same batches that Europe is? I feel like we might be
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: TheVisitor on January 06, 2018, 06:04:51 PM
Flip North America is PS Stix.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on January 06, 2018, 11:53:41 PM
Street plant is ps stix but I guess thatís really no secret
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Krooked antihero on January 07, 2018, 12:09:29 AM
Doom Sayers - bbs/generator
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: baravettski on January 07, 2018, 12:09:32 PM
Paisley is PS Stix, I think The Friend Ship might be as well.

Space Program is Quincy
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on January 07, 2018, 02:14:19 PM
WKND is maybe BBS/Generator too.....
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: micky682 on January 07, 2018, 03:22:22 PM
WKND is maybe BBS/Generator too.....
Please let this be true.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on January 08, 2018, 03:55:42 AM
WKND is maybe BBS/Generator too.....
not with those shapes theyíre not
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: planman on January 08, 2018, 08:30:36 AM
I've owned two WKNDs and both were PS. Also does anyone know where Crail wood is being pressed now? It's no longer China wood, right?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: micky682 on January 08, 2018, 08:43:31 AM
I've owned two WKNDs and both were PS. Also does anyone know where Crail wood is being pressed now? It's no longer China wood, right?
Chinese still, but like you know different Chinese wood.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on January 08, 2018, 09:02:14 AM
WKND is maybe BBS/Generator too.....
not with those shapes theyíre not

You guys could be right but when FA does a run from BBS they keep similar shapes.....

Bottom line is check the serial numbers and the stickers....seems like PS can't keep up.  Honestly both manufacturers are sick anyhow....
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Smartass on January 08, 2018, 10:09:05 AM
Updated with all the new info. Leaving WKND alone till we get confirmation on being available from both plants.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Xen on January 08, 2018, 10:41:46 AM
WKND is maybe BBS/Generator too.....
not with those shapes theyíre not

You guys could be right but when FA does a run from BBS they keep similar shapes.....

Bottom line is check the serial numbers and the stickers....seems like PS can't keep up.  Honestly both manufacturers are sick anyhow....

Way too many board companies now!
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: JAesop on January 09, 2018, 08:44:21 PM
Not to complicate things -but looks like 5boro is back to South Central.

(http://i66.tinypic.com/11aio0p.jpg)
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Xen on January 09, 2018, 10:34:22 PM
I think BloodWizard might be DSM due to the top graphic wood grain they use in their thumbnails (unless they are blatantly using the NHS shit: or there is some universal thumbnail companies use):

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0206/1348/products/WOB_TinMan_Top_2048x2048.jpg?v=1510698271)(https://www.nhsfunfactory.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/CR_SK_SM_Blue_top.jpg)
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: perverted super otaku! on January 10, 2018, 07:44:59 AM
hah, good eye
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on January 10, 2018, 12:37:49 PM
That's sick for 5boro.....

Hey why do we think Santa Cruz is dwindle? Stickers the same? 
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: CrumblingInfrastructure on January 11, 2018, 07:03:53 PM
I think Roller Horror gets the same wood that Crail uses. When I bought a deck from them it came in a Crail box. I have a ungripped board at home i'll look and see if theres any specific markings or anything.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: perverted super otaku! on January 11, 2018, 08:01:17 PM
That's sick for 5boro.....

Hey why do we think Santa Cruz is dwindle? Stickers the same?
I think someone or a couple people threw some unverifiable "insider info" out there in the last thread
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on January 11, 2018, 10:51:59 PM
Yah I assumed that people thought that because both were from China.....which is a pretty big country....
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: patrick c. on January 11, 2018, 11:20:30 PM
I think Roller Horror gets the same wood that Crail uses. When I bought a deck from them it came in a Crail box. I have a ungripped board at home i'll look and see if theres any specific markings or anything.
They might just be old Girl boxes Mike York had laying around from his days at Crail.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: CrumblingInfrastructure on January 15, 2018, 06:26:52 PM
I think Roller Horror gets the same wood that Crail uses. When I bought a deck from them it came in a Crail box. I have a ungripped board at home i'll look and see if theres any specific markings or anything.
They might just be old Girl boxes Mike York had laying around from his days at Crail.

Yeah that thought crossed my mind for sure haha but the box was really fucking crispy and not taped together so I figured he might be getting the crail hook up. There was no specific markings on the top of the ungripped deck I have but if theres someone here who thinks they can take a crack at it by looking at the top stain i'll try and post a picture
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: pointandclick on January 15, 2018, 07:17:41 PM
Not to complicate things -but looks like 5boro is back to South Central.

(http://i66.tinypic.com/11aio0p.jpg)
STOKED!
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: spanyard on January 16, 2018, 09:15:15 AM
Blue and some of the heritage stuff comes out of Prime.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: CrumblingInfrastructure on January 19, 2018, 12:44:16 PM
Adult Inc is Chapman (saw it ontheir insta post)
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: FrenchFriedClownFingers on January 21, 2018, 03:30:47 PM
who makes churchill boards?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: nopes on January 21, 2018, 03:57:44 PM
anyone know who makes hoddle decks?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: fergus on January 21, 2018, 05:16:57 PM
anyone know who makes hoddle decks?

Generator. Their shapes are the same as Passport boards.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Allen. on January 21, 2018, 05:39:20 PM
Flip North America is PS Stix.

lol these exist?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: colt cannon lunchbox on January 22, 2018, 06:01:16 PM
For all the bickering about crail's wood in 2018 I think we can call this a conformation?

https://www.instagram.com/p/BeQzElkHOK-/?hl=en&taken-by=holistic_skateshop
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: chipped tail on January 22, 2018, 06:19:24 PM
some kids I know started a brand with boards through clutch with no business license or resellers permit. they just paid sales tax and got a batch at the wholesale price. so basically every asshole on the planet can start their own brand and buy a stack of their own pro models at wholesale and shut down the industy. great job.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: TheVisitor on January 22, 2018, 07:39:44 PM
For all the bickering about crail's wood in 2018 I think we can call this a conformation?

https://www.instagram.com/p/BeQzElkHOK-/?hl=en&taken-by=holistic_skateshop

The new wood is still made in China though, right?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: CrumblingInfrastructure on January 22, 2018, 09:32:34 PM
For all the bickering about crail's wood in 2018 I think we can call this a conformation?

https://www.instagram.com/p/BeQzElkHOK-/?hl=en&taken-by=holistic_skateshop

The new wood is still made in China though, right?

Yeah its a new factory in China. I think at some point soon they're going to post a China tour edit where they visit the new factory. I think they are just been waiting for as much of the old inventory to go since any official announcement would essentially make all "old" product pretty much unmoveable. Feel free to take that joke in there.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: TheVisitor on January 22, 2018, 10:33:05 PM
DSM wood is made in China but their quality control is the best in the industry. No other companies are offering 30 and 90 day guarantees against breakage. If their new factory is close that level (I doubt it) I'd be more than happy to start purchasing Crail boards again.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: schralp pal on January 23, 2018, 09:09:35 AM
Also the wood is still from canada. Chinese manufacturing does not always equate to poor quality
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Budgie Lasek on January 23, 2018, 01:42:00 PM
For all the bickering about crail's wood in 2018 I think we can call this a conformation?

https://www.instagram.com/p/BeQzElkHOK-/?hl=en&taken-by=holistic_skateshop

The new wood is still made in China though, right?

Yeah its a new factory in China. I think at some point soon they're going to post a China tour edit where they visit the new factory. I think they are just been waiting for as much of the old inventory to go since any official announcement would essentially make all "old" product pretty much unmoveable. Feel free to take that joke in there.

It's only a 'new' factory to them. Same place that presses lots of decks for brands looking to save money on production. They were doing 5Boro (maybe still are, haven't looked recently), Blood Wizard and loads of others when I worked for a major dist. The wood looked like it got a bit better at one point, so I tried a 5Boro deck - 2 actually. Both were garbage after 1 or 2 sessions. Sogged right out.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: micky682 on January 23, 2018, 03:37:14 PM
Crailtap has the money to produce Generator or PS stix, but why don't they? Or are they really in that bad of a financial state?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Smartass on January 24, 2018, 03:16:11 PM
Crailtap has the money to produce Generator or PS stix, but why don't they? Or are they really in that bad of a financial state?

Story goes, they were going from North American manufacturer to manufacturer saying that they want X amount of boards but at insanely low cost for them. Manufacturers were basically going to loose money making crail boards. So in order to get the boards for the price the wanted, they went over seas.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: colt cannon lunchbox on January 30, 2018, 12:51:42 PM
Can anyone here shed any light on their experience with Pennswood? I picked up a Scumco yesterday and it felt super heavy. Like almost unskatable heavy. Bummed because I wanted to try one. 
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: FrenchFriedClownFingers on January 30, 2018, 01:29:00 PM
Can anyone here shed any light on their experience with Pennswood? I picked up a Scumco yesterday and it felt super heavy. Like almost unskatable heavy. Bummed because I wanted to try one.

i'm on my third scumco and i love them, the wood seems softer than other brands but they are super durable nd i love the way they skate
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: pointandclick on January 31, 2018, 03:52:21 PM
Can anyone here shed any light on their experience with Pennswood? I picked up a Scumco yesterday and it felt super heavy. Like almost unskatable heavy. Bummed because I wanted to try one.

i'm on my third scumco and i love them, the wood seems softer than other brands but they are super durable nd i love the way they skate

i realy like their wood. i wouldnt agree on being softer. they hold up really well and i find they dont razor out that easily. comparable to south central wood.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Smartass on February 01, 2018, 02:29:56 AM
(http://i63.tinypic.com/k4tx2.jpg)

Was it ever confirmed that this indent meant that a board was PS?
Picked up a Passport and noticed that it had this but didnít have the typical PS Stix serial number and crap.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: nosneb on February 01, 2018, 05:19:55 AM
I thought passport was generator/BB? Skated 3 throughout a few seasons and they werenít PS
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Smartass on February 01, 2018, 06:00:34 AM
I thought passport was generator/BB? Skated 3 throughout a few seasons and they werenít PS

Exactly what I was thinking but then I removed the sticker and boom the supposed PS stamp right there.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Lance on February 01, 2018, 07:01:03 AM
Evisen is DSM (for North America) 

The New Crail wood is actually from the US, they buy it ship it overseas get it pressed then ship the decks back, must be insanely cheap if they are double shipping wood, last 2 decks have been Girl Decks, looking forward to trying out one of the new ones next. 
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: TwisT on February 01, 2018, 07:30:31 AM
Evisen is DSM (for North America) 

The New Crail wood is actually from the US, they buy it ship it overseas get it pressed then ship the decks back, must be insanely cheap if they are double shipping wood, last 2 decks have been Girl Decks, looking forward to trying out one of the new ones next.

I'm pretty sure DSM has been doing this forever with canadian maple.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on February 01, 2018, 11:25:07 PM
I'm pretty sure the dot is BBS/GEN.....I think my magenta board had it...

Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Paco Supreme on February 02, 2018, 12:13:42 AM
I think a couple manufacturers do a front truck bolt dot, i asked schmitt himself a couple months ago if it was similar to the DLX concave indicator thing and he said it was just a quality control thing, ive had PS boards with single or multiple dots
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: nosneb on February 02, 2018, 08:09:32 AM
If it was PS wood it will have the serial number lasered on the front bolt area
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: bumpnrun on February 02, 2018, 02:14:44 PM
I just saw this site today and for certain brands, they specify who it's pressed by

https://www.blacksheepstore.co.uk/skateboard-decks.html

Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Xen on February 02, 2018, 05:32:23 PM
Not sure numbers is PSS, no serial#, just the dot between the front truck holes where the center of the baseplate would be...it DID have some tacky lazer image on the top rear of the truck area tho.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: RumpelFoarskin on February 02, 2018, 06:44:09 PM
Brophy just posted about carbon fibre top sheet on his girl boards. Says they are working on a new sample or something of a few different constructions.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: perverted super otaku! on February 02, 2018, 07:04:08 PM
from what ive heard brophy skates impact plus dwindle boards, with girl graphics
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Xen on February 02, 2018, 09:43:08 PM
from what ive heard brophy skates impact plus dwindle boards, with girl graphics

Hard to quit what you are used to!
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on February 02, 2018, 10:18:14 PM
If girl went to DSM I'd be more down to skate em.....
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Paco Supreme on February 02, 2018, 11:55:40 PM
That'd explain why he skates blanks with just a girl sticker, I couldn't imagine Crail boards holding up against his frame anyway, dudes huge
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on February 03, 2018, 07:38:38 AM
I think the deal with dwindle is/was they give you a ton of your boards when you're done....this is what could be happening.....
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: pointandclick on February 03, 2018, 08:35:23 AM
That'd explain why he skates blanks with just a girl sticker, I couldn't imagine Craig boards holding up against his frame anyway, dudes huge
fucking craig.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: RumpelFoarskin on February 03, 2018, 08:35:42 AM
What he has posted about isnít dwindle technology. He has been skating crailtap boards because the only reason he would stay on dwindle boards is for the impact and for the last few months none of his setup pics have had the impact topsheet and have had Girl graphics, apart from the last ones which are stickered yes but heís talking about trying these new constructions. Iím pretty sure this is crail working on something different not impact.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Ben De Gros on February 04, 2018, 10:44:59 PM
If girl went to DSM I'd be more down to skate em.....
I'm testing out a Girl board because someone asked me if they are really that bad or if it's just trendy to hate them now. Decided I would try one out to answer the question. Two hours of skating in and the board has started creaking and groaning. I give it a week tops and it will have completely let go. I can't believe I skated them for so long without ever trying other brands.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on February 05, 2018, 08:54:12 AM
The consensus is there is newer manufacturing and I'm so out of touch w new vs old that I have no idea how to identify but I'd like to give them a chance again too.....

I asked Mcrank of all people last week if there was a difference and he said that they felt pretty good to him....I guess though he sets them up pretty regularly....

For the most part though it's pretty easy to just skate gen/BBS stuff because they are readily available and quality decks....
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Ben De Gros on February 05, 2018, 05:19:34 PM
The one I'm on is from Fun in the Sun  so it will be an old one and will get a deservedly poopy review. I don't really care if the decks are getting better they deserve a lousy review for all the lame boards in the last decade. I will at least note in the review that it is an old deck that was discounted. If they genuinely get any better I would try one again just to know but I agree that I would rather just ride a BBS deck anyway.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: nopes on February 05, 2018, 05:42:00 PM
id definitely be interested in hearing you review a newer one too. maybe wait until you get one and put them both in one video?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Ben De Gros on February 05, 2018, 10:13:51 PM
id definitely be interested in hearing you review a newer one too. maybe wait until you get one and put them both in one video?
That's a great idea except that I won't be buying another girl deck ever until there is verifiable evidence that they are better. I have put enough money into that company with my purchases. There are waaaaaayyyy too many great brands out there worth trying.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Deekay on February 06, 2018, 03:52:34 AM
Is anyone familiar with chapman molds? Are the hotel blue decks as steep/deep as the Hopps?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Krooked antihero on February 06, 2018, 01:14:14 PM
Is anyone familiar with chapman molds? Are the hotel blue decks as steep/deep as the Hopps?
Isnít there couple of different Hopps concaves,lion and something? I skated one Jahmal Williams board last summer and it was on mellow/medium side compared these bbs/gen boards Iíve been skating mostly.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: nosneb on February 06, 2018, 01:40:34 PM
Hotel blue concave is pretty normal medium/steep like zoo york and shut
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Deekay on February 06, 2018, 03:35:42 PM
Hopps it is, thanks alot for the responses.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: asakusa75 on February 07, 2018, 09:08:42 PM
The consensus is there is newer manufacturing and I'm so out of touch w new vs old that I have no idea how to identify but I'd like to give them a chance again too.....

I asked Mcrank of all people last week if there was a difference and he said that they felt pretty good to him....I guess though he sets them up pretty regularly....

For the most part though it's pretty easy to just skate gen/BBS stuff because they are readily available and quality decks....

Setting up a new Malto today, cant tell if the wood is different but the concave is different for sure, not as flat across the middle and the nose and tail are steeper for sure. My mind might be playing tricks on me but the woodstain looks different too...
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: shaolinconfounder on February 14, 2018, 04:13:23 PM
Anyone skated a hotel blue board? I think their videos and graphics are sick id be keen to support them
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: nosneb on February 14, 2018, 04:40:40 PM
I got one. They are Chapman wood so itís pretty strong. Steep concave medium kick almost squarish shape.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on February 14, 2018, 05:25:21 PM
The consensus is there is newer manufacturing and I'm so out of touch w new vs old that I have no idea how to identify but I'd like to give them a chance again too.....

I asked Mcrank of all people last week if there was a difference and he said that they felt pretty good to him....I guess though he sets them up pretty regularly....

For the most part though it's pretty easy to just skate gen/BBS stuff because they are readily available and quality decks....

Setting up a new Malto today, cant tell if the wood is different but the concave is different for sure, not as flat across the middle and the nose and tail are steeper for sure. My mind might be playing tricks on me but the woodstain looks different too...

Cool. Keep us updated.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Gino's Back 180 Nosegrind on February 14, 2018, 05:42:19 PM
How are Chapman boards? Compared to South Central and Pennswood. I like a medium concave and lean towards a squarish shape. Larger than average nose preferred.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Smartass on February 14, 2018, 06:53:08 PM
(http://i64.tinypic.com/2mcbyas.png)

Looks like Girl might be getting into the Carbon fiber game.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on February 14, 2018, 06:58:55 PM
GANG!
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Paco Supreme on February 14, 2018, 07:01:54 PM
GANG!

He coined a new one on a Suciu post, NINJA.       ...not his best work
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Allen. on February 14, 2018, 07:11:43 PM
That gang shit got old after a week.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: asakusa75 on February 14, 2018, 07:24:51 PM
The consensus is there is newer manufacturing and I'm so out of touch w new vs old that I have no idea how to identify but I'd like to give them a chance again too.....

I asked Mcrank of all people last week if there was a difference and he said that they felt pretty good to him....I guess though he sets them up pretty regularly....

For the most part though it's pretty easy to just skate gen/BBS stuff because they are readily available and quality decks....

Setting up a new Malto today, cant tell if the wood is different but the concave is different for sure, not as flat across the middle and the nose and tail are steeper for sure. My mind might be playing tricks on me but the woodstain looks different too...

Cool. Keep us updated.

So, three skates in and it seems fine. Even though it said G009 on it, it looked a little different and once it was gripped it is a different shape for sure, nowhere near as square. The concave is new I think, steeper. I have ridden so many of the older ones in a row, you can tell straight away. So once I adjusted to the new concave, it seems fine. Its not flexing a whole bunch and its really crisp. Keep in mind that I am a diehard Crailtap fan, one of the last of a dying breed (I only know one other person who like the boards and he always rides Chocolates) and would probably say it was good anyway. That, and also I am old and not really using it for anything that requires some super responsive board. But yeah, I think its good, totally rideable and I also feel like I am supporting Howard and Carroll, my two all-time favourites. I really hope Crail doesnt go under.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on February 14, 2018, 09:37:29 PM
Nah....those dudes aren't going anywhere....not to say there won't be more changes though.... Hope these changes are for the better.. More concave sounds good and if you're old you're old and doing the same ole tricks....you are probably in tune wth you're gear...
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: asakusa75 on February 14, 2018, 09:42:37 PM
Nah....those dudes aren't going anywhere....not to say there won't be more changes though.... Hope these changes are for the better.. More concave sounds good and if you're old you're old and doing the same ole tricks....you are probably in tune wth you're gear...

Really depends on the day...its like rolling the dice every time I skate these days.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: GMB on February 16, 2018, 01:52:31 PM
anyone knows about ZERO boards??
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: MaitlandPrivado on February 17, 2018, 08:48:10 AM
anyone knows about ZERO boards??

DSM in China. Where all the Dwindle boards are made.


we are setting up a small operation to sell & distribute Zero independently in the new year.
our goal is to focus on doing things small and well by servicing the best accounts and distributors. we'd like to continue to use dsm (dwindle) as our board manufacturer for the intl. market and we're setting up manufacturing for north america in the US & mexico.

the dwindle staff is amazing and they have been very supportive, but zero is small and what makes the most sense for us is to be independent and connect with the shops, distributors & end customers directly that appreciate the brand and it's history.

if you're a shop or distributor and would like to get set up to order zero directly, please send your email to: [email protected]
below is the message that dwindle sent out last week. obviously, feel free to talk shit, give your 2 cents/advice or ignore this post -jt

From: Bod Boyle, Dwindle Distribution 11/23/16
"This message is to act as a notice of change to the working relationship between Zero Skateboards and Dwindle Distribution. After the end of the initial term of the license/distribution agreement between Zero and Dwindle, Jamie Thomas has decided to run the brand independently. He will be setting up his offices in Carlsbad, California. Dwindle will continue to sell and deliver all Zero product until Jan 15th 2017."

I do not know who they are using for the NA market now as I have not seen any of the new ones. I bought 2 Zero boards a year ago but they were resin7 leftovers.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: pointandclick on February 17, 2018, 10:37:59 AM
anyone knows about ZERO boards??

DSM in China. Where all the Dwindle boards are made.


we are setting up a small operation to sell & distribute Zero independently in the new year.
our goal is to focus on doing things small and well by servicing the best accounts and distributors. we'd like to continue to use dsm (dwindle) as our board manufacturer for the intl. market and we're setting up manufacturing for north america in the US & mexico.

the dwindle staff is amazing and they have been very supportive, but zero is small and what makes the most sense for us is to be independent and connect with the shops, distributors & end customers directly that appreciate the brand and it's history.

if you're a shop or distributor and would like to get set up to order zero directly, please send your email to: [email protected]
below is the message that dwindle sent out last week. obviously, feel free to talk shit, give your 2 cents/advice or ignore this post -jt

From: Bod Boyle, Dwindle Distribution 11/23/16
"This message is to act as a notice of change to the working relationship between Zero Skateboards and Dwindle Distribution. After the end of the initial term of the license/distribution agreement between Zero and Dwindle, Jamie Thomas has decided to run the brand independently. He will be setting up his offices in Carlsbad, California. Dwindle will continue to sell and deliver all Zero product until Jan 15th 2017."

I do not know who they are using for the NA market now as I have not seen any of the new ones. I bought 2 Zero boards a year ago but they were resin7 leftovers.

we got some zero decks specifically for a tour that were straight from generator. paint was still smelly.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: nosneb on February 17, 2018, 03:38:03 PM
yeah recent zero board I saw had mexico sticker on it
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: nosneb on February 17, 2018, 04:31:43 PM
I also got to see the recent Girl/Chocolate boards in person. Same exact concave but the boards are alot lighter and thinner than the old wood
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Beeker on February 17, 2018, 04:47:10 PM
Is the sideways logo on the edge of the top a way to identify the new Chocolate decks?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: rob on February 19, 2018, 09:16:43 PM
Hold on, crail is doing better wood?

I never hated the shape, itís nice but it lacked in comfort and control but fun
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on February 20, 2018, 08:16:20 AM
yeah recent zero board I saw had mexico sticker on it

I've seen both...the dwindle ones may be old stock or they are just using both....it's pretty easy to tell the dwindle stuff...the packaging is always similar.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Big_Poppa_J on February 25, 2018, 12:41:56 PM
(http://i63.tinypic.com/k4tx2.jpg)

Was it ever confirmed that this indent meant that a board was PS?
Picked up a Passport and noticed that it had this but didnít have the typical PS Stix serial number and crap.

The Dot Stamp comes from Bareback/Generator.  PS will always have a serial number
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: pile on February 25, 2018, 04:53:35 PM
id definitely be interested in hearing you review a newer one too. maybe wait until you get one and put them both in one video?
That's a great idea except that I won't be buying another girl deck ever until there is verifiable evidence that they are better. I have put enough money into that company with my purchases. There are waaaaaayyyy too many great brands out there worth trying.

those girl/chocolate boards at fun in the sun are definitely very old stock. that guy buys out ancient stock from the distros around town.

a friend of mine has skated the new girl boards, and really likes them in comparison to the older ones.

i'm about to try a 917 board, its a generator board and has a nice mellow concave. i've skated quite a few alltimers boards which i've liked a lot, so i'm assuming it'll be just fine.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: nosneb on February 25, 2018, 07:14:08 PM
I have a 718 Olson deck thatís like the chocolate skdul shape. Very very mellow and flat. I just canít remmeber if this was a ps stix batch or generator. Can anyone tell by the stains colors?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: hey pickle on February 26, 2018, 02:14:16 AM
I have a 718 Olson deck thatís like the chocolate skdul shape. Very very mellow and flat. I just canít remmeber if this was a ps stix batch or generator. Can anyone tell by the stains colors?

Have you gripped it? If you havenít then if thereís a serial number where the front bolt holes are then itís a p.s. stix. No serial # = generator
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: nosneb on February 26, 2018, 05:34:46 AM
Yeah itís fully gripped over
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: fat philly skater on February 26, 2018, 05:40:55 AM
I have a 718 Olson deck thatís like the chocolate skdul shape. Very very mellow and flat. I just canít remmeber if this was a ps stix batch or generator. Can anyone tell by the stains colors?
If it is the graphic I think it is with the 90's car and something about seduction it is prob ps because that board is from over a year ago
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: nosneb on February 26, 2018, 06:14:02 PM
Yes exactly! And you deff reminded me for sure was ps stix because at the time thatís all I wanted to skate. The shape is very similar to the chocolate Marc Johnson select series shape that was pressed by ps stix. Thats my all time favorite board
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: GardenSkater77 on February 26, 2018, 08:32:31 PM
Crailtap has the money to produce Generator or PS stix, but why don't they? Or are they really in that bad of a financial state?

Story goes, they were going from North American manufacturer to manufacturer saying that they want X amount of boards but at insanely low cost for them. Manufacturers were basically going to loose money making crail boards. So in order to get the boards for the price the wanted, they went over seas.

So, Crailtap has been selling China wood for years knowing that it was inferior product but for the same price as everyone else. Now that their brand is no longer hot they have decided to ship North American maple to China to be molded and shipped back. Doesnít all that time on the sea add extra moisture content to the wood/adhesive? I would think that would prematurely age the wood/adhesive making the boards less snappy? I just canít see buying Crail wood after they have been selling second rate product for years while other companies have been coming correct with the good wood since day one.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: micky682 on February 26, 2018, 10:05:57 PM
Crailtap has the money to produce Generator or PS stix, but why don't they? Or are they really in that bad of a financial state?

Story goes, they were going from North American manufacturer to manufacturer saying that they want X amount of boards but at insanely low cost for them. Manufacturers were basically going to loose money making crail boards. So in order to get the boards for the price the wanted, they went over seas.

So, Crailtap has been selling China wood for years knowing that it was inferior product but for the same price as everyone else. Now that their brand is no longer hot they have decided to ship North American maple to China to be molded and shipped back. Doesnít all that time on the sea add extra moisture content to the wood/adhesive? I would think that would prematurely age the wood/adhesive making the boards less snappy? I just canít see buying Crail wood after they have been selling second rate product for years while other companies have been coming correct with the good wood since day one.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: somethingmustbreaknow on February 27, 2018, 12:11:57 AM
blindly ordered two isles and a polar. how can i see
whether these are from BBS (Bareback/Generator)?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: hey pickle on February 27, 2018, 01:49:26 AM
blindly ordered two isles and a polar. how can i see
whether these are from BBS (Bareback/Generator)?

They both only use generator
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: schralp pal on February 27, 2018, 09:23:21 AM
Just purchased a Birch board from Khalsa, has a made in Canada sticker. What does that mean?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: planman on February 27, 2018, 09:26:23 AM
blindly ordered two isles and a polar. how can i see
whether these are from BBS (Bareback/Generator)?
Do they use the same shapes too?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: perverted super otaku! on February 27, 2018, 09:31:12 AM
Just purchased a Birch board from Khalsa, has a made in Canada sticker. What does that mean?
90% chance by control mfg id guess

If it has a squared bevel on the rails increase that too 99.9
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: bumpnrun on February 27, 2018, 09:37:39 AM
Saw some FA and Hockey boards last week. Some had PS serials, some didn't. So splitting their orders between Schmitt and likely BB.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: heritage on February 27, 2018, 09:55:55 AM
Just purchased a Birch board from Khalsa, has a made in Canada sticker. What does that mean?
90% chance by control mfg id guess

If it has a squared bevel on the rails increase that too 99.9

Birch are Control pressed. I've had 4 of them and they've all been great for me. Mellow concave, pretty standard shapes.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: juuhnuuh on February 28, 2018, 09:35:50 AM
Numbers is bareback
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: micky682 on February 28, 2018, 12:53:50 PM
Numbers is bareback
You sure? It was PS stix for a long time.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: pointandclick on February 28, 2018, 01:00:15 PM
Numbers is bareback
You sure? It was PS stix for a long time.
my shop has only gotten generator/bbs for numbers.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: micky682 on February 28, 2018, 04:05:59 PM
Numbers is bareback
You sure? It was PS stix for a long time.
my shop has only gotten generator/bbs for numbers.
Shit, the dimensions for Numbers boards are really nice and bbs wood is the best.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: heritage on February 28, 2018, 06:48:04 PM
Does anyone know what shop Skate Mental is using these days? I thought they were using the same China woodshop Crail was using then maybe switched to PS?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Xen on February 28, 2018, 07:29:23 PM
Does anyone know what shop Skate Mental is using these days? I thought they were using the same China woodshop Crail was using then maybe switched to PS?

Does anyone even skate, Skate Mental these days? That ship [finally] sunk when Shane split.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Budgie Lasek on February 28, 2018, 09:35:00 PM
Crailtap has the money to produce Generator or PS stix, but why don't they? Or are they really in that bad of a financial state?

Story goes, they were going from North American manufacturer to manufacturer saying that they want X amount of boards but at insanely low cost for them. Manufacturers were basically going to loose money making crail boards. So in order to get the boards for the price the wanted, they went over seas.

So, Crailtap has been selling China wood for years knowing that it was inferior product but for the same price as everyone else. Now that their brand is no longer hot they have decided to ship North American maple to China to be molded and shipped back. Doesnít all that time on the sea add extra moisture content to the wood/adhesive? I would think that would prematurely age the wood/adhesive making the boards less snappy? I just canít see buying Crail wood after they have been selling second rate product for years while other companies have been coming correct with the good wood since day one.

Most or all boards made in China are made with the exact same wood from the northeast of Canada and the US. It's shipped over for cheap manufacturing. I've tried two 5Boro's that were made in the same factory I believe Girl uses now, and they sogged out quick. So, it would seem something about the whole process involving both of the China manufacturers they've used results in not-the-best boards, based on what folks are saying, and my own experience with those two 5Boro's. Maybe it is all the shipping - moisture content is the #1 factor that affects the wood, and that changes a lot during shipping over seas.

Crail should just switch to BBS and deal with the cost. They'd probably gain a lot of customers.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: perverted super otaku! on March 01, 2018, 06:46:18 AM
In that Paul Schmitt interviews he said the boards are in the same condition whether being trucked up from mexico or shipped and he put hydrometers and thermometers in the containers, but said the main issue was it costs way more to get a high level of quality control from a independent Chinese manufacturer(corruption/bribes involved perhaps), but easier to keep quality standards in Mexico
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: schralp pal on March 01, 2018, 06:57:37 AM
Just purchased a Birch board from Khalsa, has a made in Canada sticker. What does that mean?
90% chance by control mfg id guess

If it has a squared bevel on the rails increase that too 99.9

Birch are Control pressed. I've had 4 of them and they've all been great for me. Mellow concave, pretty standard shapes.

Thanks - feels nice and crispy, not too steep on the tail or nose either - I wasnít gonna skate it but the shape is so eye pleasing I might after all, stoked on their graphics
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: heritage on March 01, 2018, 07:13:55 AM
@Schralp - that's rad you're supporting those guys. Mark Roberts is a powerhouse and Guru kills. Agreed on the aesthetic too. They've got a really cool thing going.

@Xen - ha I know. I was thinking about grabbing a Jack Curtin board but then I remembered it was Skate Mental.  ;D
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on March 01, 2018, 07:40:14 AM
In that Paul Schmitt interviews he said the boards are in the same condition whether being trucked up from mexico or shipped and he put hydrometers and thermometers in the containers, but said the main issue was it costs way more to get a high level of quality control from a independent Chinese manufacturer(corruption/bribes involved perhaps), but easier to keep quality standards in Mexico

Yeah i don't think the quality of the wood or manufacturing of a dwindle board is bad...I'm just not a fan of the lay up..the brands and if I can avoid buying shit in China I do.

Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: GardenSkater77 on March 01, 2018, 09:12:53 AM
The reason I brought up moisture content is because I left my skateboard in my garage this winter and tried to skate it the other day and the pop was crap. I live in NJ and it has been a real wet winter and the humidity the day I was skating was in the 70-80% range. China is wet and humid all year round. If a factory is not controlling moisture the wood will be wet at the time of pressing. I am sure P. Schmidt would argue that there is an optimal humidity range for manufacturing. He does not have to worry about this because he manufactures in MX. Dwindle, I read on Slap, owns their facility so they can institute any controls they like where as Crail does not have as much of a say in the manufacturing process. My company has products manufactured in China and humidity is always the number one concern. Adhesive resin will react differently in a moist environment as opposed to a dry one. Also, maybe Paul doesn't want to be a jerk and say that China products are inferior since his industry friends who buy their products overseas also buy from him.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: perverted super otaku! on March 01, 2018, 09:20:21 AM
he was kinda saying that though, in the sense if you don't pay out the ass to institute proper quality control you could end up with a container full of trash, not that they arent capable of it but getting them to actaully do it, that was my understanding of the interview anyway

also perhaps in shezhen/guanzhou manufacturing hubs are humid, but the futher north and west you go the climate changes drastically to evetually become desert or siberian tundra

if you get shit pressed in beijing in the winter i would thnk it would be dry as fuck
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: heritage on March 01, 2018, 11:14:35 AM
^^^ Regarding the moisture discussion...not to get extra nerdy but I've always wondered why certain boards warp quicker than others. Is it lack of moisture or too much?
Does it happen with boards that aren't cured long enough and rushed out? This winter I had a terrible problem with boards warping on me. Seemed to be every PS board that I got warped. But I also had 3 Killing Floor boards this winter (BBS) and all 3 twisted like a pretzel.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: perverted super otaku! on March 01, 2018, 11:50:00 AM
I thinks the transitions between very dry and super damp, is what cause it as well as the intensity of the shift and how often it occurs, but i've seena lot of fucked warpjobs out lately as well, some welcomes that were just off the charts fucked, but even bbs/dwindle
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: GardenSkater77 on March 01, 2018, 12:01:15 PM
I found the article that was being referenced. What stood out to me was that Paul says not to rush the manufacturing process. If the boards are heat cured they do not cure properly. One thing contract manufacturers in Asia are not known for is manufacturing slowly. Yes, I was probably making an assumption that manufacturing is taking place in Southern China. The weather in Beijing is not too different than the east coast of the US. I still would rather have my boards made in MX where it is dry. I have always like Schmidt Stix decks--especially from Alien's heyday. Here is the quote from the article:

ďI made boards in China for eight or nine years, and I had no trouble making boards that were up to my standards with my wood and with my glue from the U.S. But with my levels of training and my quality standards, ultimately I couldnít compete with what other Chinese factories were doing, and other Chinese factories couldnít afford to copy what I do. Ultimately, in China you are going to get the level of quality you pay for. Looks can also be deceiving. I just couldnít afford to be in business in China with my standards. Ē

Management practices in factories makes things that much more unpredictable. ďA lot of bad board manufacturing practices that went away in the 1990s crept back in the 2000s,Ē Schmitt contends. ďHeat curing boardsĒóthat is, drying the glue that holds the plies in a board together by exposing it to high heatóďis one. No legitimate board manufacturer in North America hot cures decks.Ē

Thereís also the question of the source of the raw materials used in the Chinese factory. ďIíve seen cases of factories claiming theyíre using Canadian hard maple, but then you look at their manifests and you see their wood actually comes from Vermont, which is fine by my standards. Other times theyíre using Chinese maple. Just because theyíre putting a maple leaf sticker on the board doesnít mean youíre getting Canadian hard maple. They will put anything on board that they think will help sell it.Ē

One aspect of overseas production Schmitt doesnít worry about, though, is the shipping conditions on the long container ship rides from Asia.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: 410420247 on March 02, 2018, 04:48:26 PM
Noticed northern co got a * and is listed under bbs/generator as well as south central, but didnít see a post about it.  Whatís the story?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Smartass on March 02, 2018, 06:30:44 PM
Noticed northern co got a * and is listed under bbs/generator as well as south central, but didnít see a post about it.  Whatís the story?

Talked to someone who works for their distributor and they told me recently theyíve decided to start using generator for most of their boards. I believe newer batches will mostly generator. If I see them again, Iíll get better clarification.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: GardenSkater77 on March 04, 2018, 08:47:43 PM
Here is another consideration I ran into, does your board company use use heat transfer or screen printing for graphics: http://screamingsqueegees.com

Screaming argues that heat transfer stresses the wood. Obviously, there is some prejudice here, but they may have a point. I noticed that Prime Wood uses screaming for graphics. Has anyone ever tried one of their boards or do we know of other companies who do not use heat transfer for graphics?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Paco Supreme on March 04, 2018, 08:55:18 PM
I think carpet company use all screened boards
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: GardenSkater77 on March 04, 2018, 09:24:52 PM
Carpet is deep in the game. I also saw that Pistol Pockets used screaming squeegees. If anyone is interested So Ca Skates website will list if a deck was hand screened. Carpet doesnít sell there and to be honest I barely know about them but they look like they are on the Scum Co level of killin it on the low yo
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on March 04, 2018, 09:39:26 PM
Noticed northern co got a * and is listed under bbs/generator as well as south central, but didnít see a post about it.  Whatís the story?

Talked to someone who works for their distributor and they told me recently theyíve decided to start using generator for most of their boards. I believe newer batches will mostly generator. If I see them again, Iíll get better clarification.
hmmmm their last run last year was still on SC if I'm not mistaken? The board I ended up picking up had made in USA printed on the top of it. Is this like their 3rd wood shop?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: patrick c. on March 04, 2018, 10:06:26 PM
Noticed northern co got a * and is listed under bbs/generator as well as south central, but didnít see a post about it.  Whatís the story?

Talked to someone who works for their distributor and they told me recently theyíve decided to start using generator for most of their boards. I believe newer batches will mostly generator. If I see them again, Iíll get better clarification.
hmmmm their last run last year was still on SC if I'm not mistaken? The board I ended up picking up had made in USA printed on the top of it. Is this like their 3rd wood shop?
Yes. I believe they had a run or two on Pennswood a couple years ago.  You can still easily find South Central Northerns online(I believe these are all either SC or Penns: http://www.35thave.com/shop/Skate/Decks/Northern-Co.htm (http://www.35thave.com/shop/Skate/Decks/Northern-Co.htm))
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: nosneb on March 05, 2018, 06:05:04 AM
Carpet is deep in the game. I also saw that Pistol Pockets used screaming squeegees. If anyone is interested So Ca Skates website will list if a deck was hand screened. Carpet doesnít sell there and to be honest I barely know about them but they look like they are on the Scum Co level of killin it on the low yo


Carpet is sick yo! Curry shredders. Screening boards with turmeric and pomegranates. They use generator wood too
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: nosneb on March 05, 2018, 06:07:53 AM
https://instagram.com/p/BScXnx-gL1U/
Got me when he simba the cat lol

https://instagram.com/p/BS-AFAjANh7/
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: OldManSkate on March 05, 2018, 09:04:10 AM
This is a Brotherís deck. Is this PS Stix? It has a pointy nose similar to Habitat.
(http://i68.tinypic.com/vo0wnq.jpg)
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Little Debbie on March 05, 2018, 02:31:10 PM
PS boards have a full on serial number laser engraved into the top of the deck, not just a cheap stamp
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: nosneb on March 05, 2018, 04:44:06 PM
Edited*
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on March 05, 2018, 05:21:09 PM
I think we've heard some mixed reviews on Prime no?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: nosneb on March 05, 2018, 09:08:29 PM
Whatís up with prime? I have a football shaped blank Iíve skated lightly and it was pretty good.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: SirCletusIV on March 06, 2018, 03:44:44 AM
Any thoughts on P2 boards? I'm a heavier skater and i skate 8.5 but thinking about switching to an 8.75 or 9 and don't know if I should stick with an anti-hero or try a P2 creature. Trying to be economic here and want the one that's gonna keep its stiffness longer
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: planman on March 06, 2018, 06:31:31 AM
This is a Brother’s deck. Is this PS Stix? It has a pointy nose similar to Habitat.
(http://i68.tinypic.com/vo0wnq.jpg)
I don't think Brother's is PS, but I know the guy who runs it. I'll find out what's up.

EDIT: They're pressed by Clutch
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: OldManSkate on March 06, 2018, 07:49:56 AM
^ thanks for asking, man!
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Smartass on March 06, 2018, 11:07:56 AM
Noticed northern co got a * and is listed under bbs/generator as well as south central, but didnít see a post about it.  Whatís the story?

Talked to someone who works for their distributor and they told me recently theyíve decided to start using generator for most of their boards. I believe newer batches will mostly generator. If I see them again, Iíll get better clarification.
hmmmm their last run last year was still on SC if I'm not mistaken? The board I ended up picking up had made in USA printed on the top of it. Is this like their 3rd wood shop?

Just asked Northern Co on IG where they were switching to. It's Clutch, not Generator so you can fix the directory accordingly.

(https://i.imgur.com/cTerSwL.jpg)


Thanks Furi
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: RumpelFoarskin on March 06, 2018, 11:12:46 AM
Revive is made by clutch, they are good and strong
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: thespacewolf on March 06, 2018, 12:04:21 PM
Revive is made by clutch, they are good and strong
how you know what Revive boards are made of  ::)
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: nosneb on March 06, 2018, 12:34:06 PM
Riding DAO right now which is off Northern Co. The Clutch wood reminds me of Generator just a little thicker. They do kinda chip easy from what Ive seen but mine has been holding up well.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Krooked antihero on March 06, 2018, 12:56:36 PM
Any thoughts on P2 boards? I'm a heavier skater and i skate 8.5 but thinking about switching to an 8.75 or 9 and don't know if I should stick with an anti-hero or try a P2 creature. Trying to be economic here and want the one that's gonna keep its stiffness longer
Well,p2 is your choice then if you just want your board to be stiff ítill the end, those things are strong as fuck. Iíd still prefer AH over Creature because of shapes tho.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: SirCletusIV on March 06, 2018, 09:13:19 PM
Any thoughts on P2 boards? I'm a heavier skater and i skate 8.5 but thinking about switching to an 8.75 or 9 and don't know if I should stick with an anti-hero or try a P2 creature. Trying to be economic here and want the one that's gonna keep its stiffness longer
Well,p2 is your choice then if you just want your board to be stiff ítill the end, those things are strong as fuck. Iíd still prefer AH over Creature because of shapes tho.

See i'm not even sure what shape I want really. I just know i want it to be between 8.75 and 9.0 and i want it to last as long as it can underneath my fat body...
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: RumpelFoarskin on March 07, 2018, 03:28:20 AM
Any thoughts on P2 boards? I'm a heavier skater and i skate 8.5 but thinking about switching to an 8.75 or 9 and don't know if I should stick with an anti-hero or try a P2 creature. Trying to be economic here and want the one that's gonna keep its stiffness longer
Well,p2 is your choice then if you just want your board to be stiff ítill the end, those things are strong as fuck. Iíd still prefer AH over Creature because of shapes tho.

See i'm not even sure what shape I want really. I just know i want it to be between 8.75 and 9.0 and i want it to last as long as it can underneath my fat body...
Just get a Powell flight deck, they have a few 8.7 popsicles and 8.7-9.1 in shapes. You will never break it and it actually performs really well.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: alraunen on March 07, 2018, 03:46:16 AM
Any thoughts on P2 boards? I'm a heavier skater and i skate 8.5 but thinking about switching to an 8.75 or 9 and don't know if I should stick with an anti-hero or try a P2 creature. Trying to be economic here and want the one that's gonna keep its stiffness longer
Well,p2 is your choice then if you just want your board to be stiff ítill the end, those things are strong as fuck. Iíd still prefer AH over Creature because of shapes tho.

See i'm not even sure what shape I want really. I just know i want it to be between 8.75 and 9.0 and i want it to last as long as it can underneath my fat body...
Just get a Powell flight deck, they have a few 8.7 popsicles and 8.7-9.1 in shapes. You will never break it and it actually performs really well.

I'm around 230 pounds skating 8,75.

Been skating only BBS/Generator boards for the last 2 years.

For me, they're quite durable but in my case, it depends on how much I skate. The more I skate the fewer decks I broke.

The powell flight looks a solid choice but I can't afford 150 euros in a deck (yup that's the fucking price in europe).
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: RumpelFoarskin on March 07, 2018, 04:18:53 AM
Any thoughts on P2 boards? I'm a heavier skater and i skate 8.5 but thinking about switching to an 8.75 or 9 and don't know if I should stick with an anti-hero or try a P2 creature. Trying to be economic here and want the one that's gonna keep its stiffness longer
Well,p2 is your choice then if you just want your board to be stiff ’till the end, those things are strong as fuck. I’d still prefer AH over Creature because of shapes tho.

See i'm not even sure what shape I want really. I just know i want it to be between 8.75 and 9.0 and i want it to last as long as it can underneath my fat body...
Just get a Powell flight deck, they have a few 8.7 popsicles and 8.7-9.1 in shapes. You will never break it and it actually performs really well.

I'm around 230 pounds skating 8,75.

Been skating only BBS/Generator boards for the last 2 years.

For me, they're quite durable but in my case, it depends on how much I skate. The more I skate the fewer decks I broke.

The powell flight looks a solid choice but I can't afford 150 euros in a deck (yup that's the fucking price in europe).
They are expensive and 150 euros is crazy to imagine for a deck I know, (they are $120 here in Canadian dollars) honestly will last 10 times longer than any other deck though. For the most part I find P2 decks kind of a gimmick, they get soggy and I’ve had two that warped after a few weeks, one from Creature and one from Flip both last year. Also a planB P2 last year that was warped straight from the factory. The double impact from dwindle is a much better choice but they are impossible to find in anything bigger than 8.5. I’m 215 pounds, honestly didn’t notice any difference between a P2 deck and a regular BBS or ps stix, in fact the higher price for a P2 and the amount of problems I’ve had it kind of makes it a worse choice. I feel like the Powell decks are the first technology deck I’ve tried that blew me away and actually was a completely different experience, I’ve been skating one for almost a year now and it feels exactly how it did from day one. If you ever get a chance to try one or find one cheaper it’s worthwhile. If you like the P2 deck or wanna try it give it a go, but I wouldn’t specifically go out of my way to get one if you don’t like the shape, it doesn’t skate any better than a regular deck in my opinion. Still razor tails the same, still gets soggy. Plus the whole “spring loaded pop” thing they market is bullshit.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: heritage on March 07, 2018, 10:43:52 AM
To the earlier posts about warping...I bought both of these boards on the same day. I couldn't decide which I wanted so I bought both.

Quasi Crockett (PS Stix)
Isle Knox (Generator)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4604/39966599484_75b69c504c_c.jpg)

So I brought them home and they were kept together in the same room, the exact same conditions. No difference at all. But what is bummed me out is the Quasi (PS Stix) twisted like a pretzel. I've skated warped boards before but this one is pretty extreme so I'm not even going to bother. It's a wall hanger now. The Isle (Generator) has no warp at all. I posted earlier, I've had boards from all shops warp on me but it seems to happen most frequently with PS pressed stuff for whatever reason.

Quasi/PS
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4708/40634693712_54c0a9cdea_c.jpg)

Isle/Generator
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4798/40634693752_4bb26a0abc_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: roba on March 07, 2018, 10:51:44 AM
Any thoughts on P2 boards? I'm a heavier skater and i skate 8.5 but thinking about switching to an 8.75 or 9 and don't know if I should stick with an anti-hero or try a P2 creature. Trying to be economic here and want the one that's gonna keep its stiffness longer
Well,p2 is your choice then if you just want your board to be stiff ítill the end, those things are strong as fuck. Iíd still prefer AH over Creature because of shapes tho.

See i'm not even sure what shape I want really. I just know i want it to be between 8.75 and 9.0 and i want it to last as long as it can underneath my fat body...
Just get a Powell flight deck, they have a few 8.7 popsicles and 8.7-9.1 in shapes. You will never break it and it actually performs really well.

I'm around 230 pounds skating 8,75.

Been skating only BBS/Generator boards for the last 2 years.

For me, they're quite durable but in my case, it depends on how much I skate. The more I skate the fewer decks I broke.

The powell flight looks a solid choice but I can't afford 150 euros in a deck (yup that's the fucking price in europe).
They are expensive and 150 euros is crazy to imagine for a deck I know, (they are $120 here in Canadian dollars) honestly will last 10 times longer than any other deck though. For the most part I find P2 decks kind of a gimmick, they get soggy and Iíve had two that warped after a few weeks, one from Creature and one from Flip both last year. Also a planB P2 last year that was warped straight from the factory. The double impact from dwindle is a much better choice but they are impossible to find in anything bigger than 8.5. Iím 215 pounds, honestly didnít notice any difference between a P2 deck and a regular BBS or ps stix, in fact the higher price for a P2 and the amount of problems Iíve had it kind of makes it a worse choice. I feel like the Powell decks are the first technology deck Iíve tried that blew me away and actually was a completely different experience, Iíve been skating one for almost a year now and it feels exactly how it did from day one. If you ever get a chance to try one or find one cheaper itís worthwhile. If you like the P2 deck or wanna try it give it a go, but I wouldnít specifically go out of my way to get one if you donít like the shape, it doesnít skate any better than a regular deck in my opinion. Still razor tails the same, still gets soggy. Plus the whole ďspring loaded popĒ thing they market is bullshit.

i've actually felt like the p2 technology actually worked when i had a habitat p2, it stayed stiffer for longer than ie a regular habitat deck
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Deekay on March 07, 2018, 03:20:20 PM
So what's the word on crailtap boards now? Did they change the wood? Did anyone try em?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: perverted super otaku! on March 07, 2018, 03:47:31 PM
damn that fucking sucks guys, I've been holding off on buying a new board until the weather stabilizes into spring, seems like something PS should try to fix because there are a fuck load of boards out there this year from what i've seen irl and here that are straight unskatable

edit: makes me want to give control another shot once new studio boards hit some shops, my thinking: Canadian maple, pressed in Canada, and sold and skated in Canada should be the safest bet in regards to climate/humidity based warpage, just always found their shapes kinda flat for my tastes
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Sad Hippo on March 07, 2018, 04:48:17 PM
To the earlier posts about warping...I bought both of these boards on the same day. I couldn't decide which I wanted so I bought both.

So I brought them home and they were kept together in the same room, the exact same conditions. No difference at all. But what is bummed me out is the Quasi (PS Stix) twisted like a pretzel. I've skated warped boards before but this one is pretty extreme so I'm not even going to bother. It's a wall hanger now. The Isle (Generator) has no warp at all. I posted earlier, I've had boards from all shops warp on me but it seems to happen most frequently with PS pressed stuff for whatever reason.

I've been getting the same thing a lot lately, mostly Generator decks though. They're new releases, I get them in the mail (from Skatewarehouse or Tactics), take them out and can see them warping already. I usually just send them right back but a couple I've kept and hung on the wall. I also kept two Polars that weren't too bad and plan on skating those as cruisers. I'm used to getting one or two per year that are slightly warped but lately it's way more frequent and a lot worse! I know in winter it's a lot easier for this to happen but it usually takes quite a bit of time being exposed to dry electric heat, left in direct sunlight or extreme humidity fluctuations for it to occur. The odd thing is I've never gotten a warped board from Pennswood, South Central, Clutch or Quincy, it's only PS and Generator. I went to Escapist the other day and me and the guy working there found almost a dozen warped decks on their racks, mostly PS but a few Generator as well. I've got a bamboo/maple hybrid deck on it's way, if that's any good I might be sticking with those and American made/Clutch decks for awhile.

Oh and look what UPS just dropped off from SkateWarehouse! My brand new Sovrn deck that just came out and of course, it's warped! It's really bad too, tail angles one way, nose the other and the concave is uneven. Such a bummer.

(https://i.imgur.com/ufLrslX.jpg)
That's unskatable? Dude, I think you're just nitpicking, that looks fine.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: perverted super otaku! on March 07, 2018, 04:55:22 PM
but from another perspective, depending where you live and how much you make, you spend like 1.5-4 hours of your life working to earn the money to buy a board and it should be 100% proper
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on March 07, 2018, 05:30:15 PM
Noticed northern co got a * and is listed under bbs/generator as well as south central, but didnít see a post about it.  Whatís the story?

Talked to someone who works for their distributor and they told me recently theyíve decided to start using generator for most of their boards. I believe newer batches will mostly generator. If I see them again, Iíll get better clarification.
hmmmm their last run last year was still on SC if I'm not mistaken? The board I ended up picking up had made in USA printed on the top of it. Is this like their 3rd wood shop?

Just asked Northern Co on IG where they were switching to. It's Clutch, not Generator so you can fix the directory accordingly.

(https://i.imgur.com/cTerSwL.jpg)
That sux, the reason I specifically went with a NC board last time was because they were still made in the US
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: nosneb on March 07, 2018, 05:38:20 PM
To the earlier posts about warping...I bought both of these boards on the same day. I couldn't decide which I wanted so I bought both.

So I brought them home and they were kept together in the same room, the exact same conditions. No difference at all. But what is bummed me out is the Quasi (PS Stix) twisted like a pretzel. I've skated warped boards before but this one is pretty extreme so I'm not even going to bother. It's a wall hanger now. The Isle (Generator) has no warp at all. I posted earlier, I've had boards from all shops warp on me but it seems to happen most frequently with PS pressed stuff for whatever reason.

I've been getting the same thing a lot lately, mostly Generator decks though. They're new releases, I get them in the mail (from Skatewarehouse or Tactics), take them out and can see them warping already. I usually just send them right back but a couple I've kept and hung on the wall. I also kept two Polars that weren't too bad and plan on skating those as cruisers. I'm used to getting one or two per year that are slightly warped but lately it's way more frequent and a lot worse! I know in winter it's a lot easier for this to happen but it usually takes quite a bit of time being exposed to dry electric heat, left in direct sunlight or extreme humidity fluctuations for it to occur. The odd thing is I've never gotten a warped board from Pennswood, South Central, Clutch or Quincy, it's only PS and Generator. I went to Escapist the other day and me and the guy working there found almost a dozen warped decks on their racks, mostly PS but a few Generator as well. I've got a bamboo/maple hybrid deck on it's way, if that's any good I might be sticking with those and American made/Clutch decks for awhile.

Oh and look what UPS just dropped off from SkateWarehouse! My brand new Sovrn deck that just came out and of course, it's warped! It's really bad too, tail angles one way, nose the other and the concave is uneven. Such a bummer.

(https://i.imgur.com/ufLrslX.jpg)
That's unskatable? Dude, I think you're just nitpicking, that looks fine.

You can see the concave is off center. I bought a Hockey board specifically as wall hanger. When I received it, the deck concave was off center. One side of the deck was steep and opposite side was flat.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: ungzilla on March 07, 2018, 05:38:35 PM
now known as Southern Co. [˘]
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: SirCletusIV on March 08, 2018, 12:13:52 AM
Any thoughts on P2 boards? I'm a heavier skater and i skate 8.5 but thinking about switching to an 8.75 or 9 and don't know if I should stick with an anti-hero or try a P2 creature. Trying to be economic here and want the one that's gonna keep its stiffness longer
Well,p2 is your choice then if you just want your board to be stiff ítill the end, those things are strong as fuck. Iíd still prefer AH over Creature because of shapes tho.

See i'm not even sure what shape I want really. I just know i want it to be between 8.75 and 9.0 and i want it to last as long as it can underneath my fat body...
Just get a Powell flight deck, they have a few 8.7 popsicles and 8.7-9.1 in shapes. You will never break it and it actually performs really well.

I'm around 230 pounds skating 8,75.

Been skating only BBS/Generator boards for the last 2 years.

For me, they're quite durable but in my case, it depends on how much I skate. The more I skate the fewer decks I broke.

The powell flight looks a solid choice but I can't afford 150 euros in a deck (yup that's the fucking price in europe).
They are expensive and 150 euros is crazy to imagine for a deck I know, (they are $120 here in Canadian dollars) honestly will last 10 times longer than any other deck though. For the most part I find P2 decks kind of a gimmick, they get soggy and Iíve had two that warped after a few weeks, one from Creature and one from Flip both last year. Also a planB P2 last year that was warped straight from the factory. The double impact from dwindle is a much better choice but they are impossible to find in anything bigger than 8.5. Iím 215 pounds, honestly didnít notice any difference between a P2 deck and a regular BBS or ps stix, in fact the higher price for a P2 and the amount of problems Iíve had it kind of makes it a worse choice. I feel like the Powell decks are the first technology deck Iíve tried that blew me away and actually was a completely different experience, Iíve been skating one for almost a year now and it feels exactly how it did from day one. If you ever get a chance to try one or find one cheaper itís worthwhile. If you like the P2 deck or wanna try it give it a go, but I wouldnít specifically go out of my way to get one if you donít like the shape, it doesnít skate any better than a regular deck in my opinion. Still razor tails the same, still gets soggy. Plus the whole ďspring loaded popĒ thing they market is bullshit.

i've actually felt like the p2 technology actually worked when i had a habitat p2, it stayed stiffer for longer than ie a regular habitat deck

Thanks for the feedback guys. I had a Rune Glifberg Flip P2 a couple years back and it lasted awhile but it did get soggy. My main concern is the sogginess actually. i'm not skating anything to gnarly to the point where i'm worried about snapping that much (except for boardslides , cuz like I said i'm fat). I wasn't even aware of powell had. I'll check out these powell flights if they retain their stiffness.

And I'm at an 8.5 now with my Real board and I think i want to upgrade to something a bit bigger as I've put on a few pounds recently haha. It's gotten quite soggy as I've had it for awhile. I've had my eye on an 8.8 Creature P2 kimbell board but I'll look at the powell flight boards. I hope they're better.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: RumpelFoarskin on March 08, 2018, 02:32:43 AM
So what's the word on crailtap boards now? Did they change the wood? Did anyone try em?
I took a bunch of photos comparing the new vs old. They are definitely slightly lighter and thinner than the old crail boards, with better quality graphics. They feel more crisp, to me old crailtap boards were really rounded which made them feel thick, these are more square on the rails, and the shapes are more pronounced, however my personal opinion would be that they are marginally better than old crailtap wood but still not as good as some other stuff out there. Give them a try because maybe you will find you like them, there is definitely a difference. I would be wary ordering online because thereís still old wood mixed in with the new, Iím pretty sure all the new ones have a matte style graphic finish and a dark middle ply but Iím not certain.
https://www.tumblr.com/blog/slapdude

Does anyone know if the baker b16 shape is the one thatís 8.475, 14.25 wheelbase and 31.8 length?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: oneOone on March 08, 2018, 04:52:15 AM
So what's the word on crailtap boards now? Did they change the wood? Did anyone try em?
I took a bunch of photos comparing the new vs old. They are definitely slightly lighter and thinner than the old crail boards, with better quality graphics. They feel more crisp, to me old crailtap boards were really rounded which made them feel thick, these are more square on the rails, and the shapes are more pronounced, however my personal opinion would be that they are marginally better than old crailtap wood but still not as good as some other stuff out there. Give them a try because maybe you will find you like them, there is definitely a difference. I would be wary ordering online because thereís still old wood mixed in with the new, Iím pretty sure all the new ones have a matte style graphic finish and a dark middle ply but Iím not certain.
https://www.tumblr.com/blog/slapdude


Thanks for that did you weight them by any chance?

I definitely prefer thinner (looking) boards like the DLX stuff but had a thick and heavy looking Habitat (EU made by Jart) and it felt great and held up strong but it still looked pretty thick.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Deekay on March 08, 2018, 05:32:26 AM
So what's the word on crailtap boards now? Did they change the wood? Did anyone try em?
I took a bunch of photos comparing the new vs old. They are definitely slightly lighter and thinner than the old crail boards, with better quality graphics. They feel more crisp, to me old crailtap boards were really rounded which made them feel thick, these are more square on the rails, and the shapes are more pronounced, however my personal opinion would be that they are marginally better than old crailtap wood but still not as good as some other stuff out there. Give them a try because maybe you will find you like them, there is definitely a difference. I would be wary ordering online because thereís still old wood mixed in with the new, Iím pretty sure all the new ones have a matte style graphic finish and a dark middle ply but Iím not certain.
https://www.tumblr.com/blog/slapdude

Does anyone know if the baker b16 shape is the one thatís 8.475, 14.25 wheelbase and 31.8 length?

Damn dude, thanks alot! The dark middle ply was a great tell too, now I can just look em up before ordering if my local doesn't have the shape I want.
The reason I liked crailtap boards so much was that they felt light already, and now they're even lighter? Hopefully they hold up better though as that's the only reason I didn't skate them exclusively.

And about the b16, yeah that's it. They have a 8.5 x 32 with a 14.5" wheelbase as well, but if it says 8.475 it's usually the b16.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Tedd on March 08, 2018, 07:01:39 AM

Oh and look what UPS just dropped off from SkateWarehouse! My brand new Sovrn deck that just came out and of course, it's warped! It's really bad too, tail angles one way, nose the other and the concave is uneven. Such a bummer.

(https://i.imgur.com/ufLrslX.jpg)

Serves you right for buying a brrcs deck off of skate warehouse. And itís fine, donít be a baby. You should still focus it though
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on March 08, 2018, 08:08:10 AM
Any thoughts on P2 boards? I'm a heavier skater and i skate 8.5 but thinking about switching to an 8.75 or 9 and don't know if I should stick with an anti-hero or try a P2 creature. Trying to be economic here and want the one that's gonna keep its stiffness longer
Well,p2 is your choice then if you just want your board to be stiff ítill the end, those things are strong as fuck. Iíd still prefer AH over Creature because of shapes tho.

See i'm not even sure what shape I want really. I just know i want it to be between 8.75 and 9.0 and i want it to last as long as it can underneath my fat body...
Just get a Powell flight deck, they have a few 8.7 popsicles and 8.7-9.1 in shapes. You will never break it and it actually performs really well.

I'm around 230 pounds skating 8,75.

Been skating only BBS/Generator boards for the last 2 years.

For me, they're quite durable but in my case, it depends on how much I skate. The more I skate the fewer decks I broke.

The powell flight looks a solid choice but I can't afford 150 euros in a deck (yup that's the fucking price in europe).
They are expensive and 150 euros is crazy to imagine for a deck I know, (they are $120 here in Canadian dollars) honestly will last 10 times longer than any other deck though. For the most part I find P2 decks kind of a gimmick, they get soggy and Iíve had two that warped after a few weeks, one from Creature and one from Flip both last year. Also a planB P2 last year that was warped straight from the factory. The double impact from dwindle is a much better choice but they are impossible to find in anything bigger than 8.5. Iím 215 pounds, honestly didnít notice any difference between a P2 deck and a regular BBS or ps stix, in fact the higher price for a P2 and the amount of problems Iíve had it kind of makes it a worse choice. I feel like the Powell decks are the first technology deck Iíve tried that blew me away and actually was a completely different experience, Iíve been skating one for almost a year now and it feels exactly how it did from day one. If you ever get a chance to try one or find one cheaper itís worthwhile. If you like the P2 deck or wanna try it give it a go, but I wouldnít specifically go out of my way to get one if you donít like the shape, it doesnít skate any better than a regular deck in my opinion. Still razor tails the same, still gets soggy. Plus the whole ďspring loaded popĒ thing they market is bullshit.

i've actually felt like the p2 technology actually worked when i had a habitat p2, it stayed stiffer for longer than ie a regular habitat deck

Thanks for the feedback guys. I had a Rune Glifberg Flip P2 a couple years back and it lasted awhile but it did get soggy. My main concern is the sogginess actually. i'm not skating anything to gnarly to the point where i'm worried about snapping that much (except for boardslides , cuz like I said i'm fat). I wasn't even aware of powell had. I'll check out these powell flights if they retain their stiffness.

And I'm at an 8.5 now with my Real board and I think i want to upgrade to something a bit bigger as I've put on a few pounds recently haha. It's gotten quite soggy as I've had it for awhile. I've had my eye on an 8.8 Creature P2 kimbell board but I'll look at the powell flight boards. I hope they're better.

The Powell flight boards are considerably pricier but the trade off is they don't break or sog out.... They razor just as fast as anything else.....

They are way clunkier but those chapman pressed boards always seemed indestructible to me....
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: pointandclick on March 08, 2018, 12:10:21 PM
damn that fucking sucks guys, I've been holding off on buying a new board until the weather stabilizes into spring, seems like something PS should try to fix because there are a fuck load of boards out there this year from what i've seen irl and here that are straight unskatable

edit: makes me want to give control another shot once new studio boards hit some shops, my thinking: Canadian maple, pressed in Canada, and sold and skated in Canada should be the safest bet in regards to climate/humidity based warpage, just always found their shapes kinda flat for my tastes

i want studio to do well but god control boards suck, they refuse to router the edges on the top ply for shop decks. their boards go soggy and break quickly.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: perverted super otaku! on March 08, 2018, 12:54:21 PM
i have noticed that awkward slightly hollow feeling the pop has too..., combined with the flat shapes i just gave up, I've also heard "they're cheap" from someone who dealt with them which i take meant they wont make improvements, like you were saying

I would feel really good only skating studios, alas
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: heritage on March 08, 2018, 01:32:33 PM
I know board feel is so personal and different for everyone but I've liked the Control boards I skated. But just to qualify that, I go through boards pretty quickly, usually setting something new up every 4-6 weeks, but I've had decent luck with them. They're also super mellow, almost flat, so they were right up my alley.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on March 08, 2018, 10:58:18 PM
It's a Tracer choice for sure.....I know people that love them....flat and an abrupt tail and nose.... not really what I like but something to be said about Canadian made.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: fat philly skater on March 11, 2018, 07:46:51 AM
anybody know what frog uses? I've heard generator or chapman
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: perverted super otaku! on March 11, 2018, 07:57:47 AM
list says Generator which is the case afaik, unless they switched at one point for a run, did a split run or whatever
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: nosneb on March 13, 2018, 04:16:23 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/7TjbC45_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

What does the 3 dots mean? Does it mean itís the 3rd in the stack?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: GardenSkater77 on March 19, 2018, 07:58:17 PM
Not sure if these were posted before but here is a video Generator released a few years ago showing their factory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3VLKzOGD3I

And, here is a tour of Santa Cruz explaining their graphics process.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui1ZH6keYQM

Don't know how to embed the video, so if you have to go to you tube if you want to watch.

GS77

Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: sododgy on March 20, 2018, 01:22:21 AM
Vids load fine in the post on mobile man
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Daniel on March 20, 2018, 01:36:36 AM
Checked the new quasi shipment at the local and didn't see any type of warping. Saw several different "quality control" dimples on separate decks. I'm starting to think that the dimples mean what order the boards are pressed in kinda like the dlx Roman numeral stamps. I could just be over thinking it...
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Deekay on March 21, 2018, 03:09:56 AM
I bought a Quasi a few months ago but have been injured and not used it. It wasn't warped when I got it but now it is (and kinda badly too), it's just been sitting in room temperature for a couple of months. Kinda bummed.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Paco Supreme on March 21, 2018, 03:56:58 AM
I'm starting to think that the dimples mean what order the boards are pressed in kinda like the dlx Roman numeral stamps. I could just be over thinking it...

With PS Stix Iíve been told thatís not the case
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Diocletian on March 22, 2018, 03:44:32 PM
Hey fellas, so I ordered this board online and noticed when I took the cellophane off thereís this part along the sides of the plies in one spot that appears to be a crack? Never seen this kind of thing before. I dragged my finger nail across and made a few marks but you can still see the distinct jagged line. What you think, skate it or contact for warranty?

(https://i.imgur.com/NIA6kYrl.jpg)
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Xen on March 22, 2018, 04:17:51 PM
Looks like a scratch to me.
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Post by: JAesop on March 22, 2018, 07:29:29 PM
Scratch or the wrap was too hot when the board was bagged.
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Post by: Diocletian on March 23, 2018, 03:57:47 AM
Yeah I guess thatís why I posted cause I canít tell if itís a scratch or thin crack. Thanks for the feedback so far.
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Post by: RumpelFoarskin on March 23, 2018, 03:59:45 AM
Is that a dsm board? Is it palace?
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Post by: Diocletian on March 23, 2018, 07:46:51 AM
It looks to be either south central or generator
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Post by: nosneb on March 23, 2018, 08:23:41 AM
South Central or BB does not stain the boards that way. It looks either like a brushed stain from a Santa Cruz board or Palace. Basically looks like DSM.
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Post by: Diocletian on March 23, 2018, 08:41:10 AM
Is that dwindle? Not sure if theirs is any good Iíve always stuck with deluxe.
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Post by: MaitlandPrivado on March 23, 2018, 08:52:59 AM
Is that dwindle? Not sure if theirs is any good Iíve always stuck with deluxe.
DSM is indeed Dwindle if that is what you are asking. Are you saying the board in question is a DLX brand?
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Post by: TheVisitor on March 23, 2018, 02:07:56 PM
Is that dwindle? Not sure if theirs is any good Iíve always stuck with deluxe.

Dwindle is the best board manufacture out right now but no one backs them because their brands are "lame".  Their boards don't warp randomly, are individually pressed (same shape every time), they offer a 30 day guarantee against breakage(no other brand does this), they make their veneers in house as opposed to other companies who get their veneers from a third party, they use resin glue etc.
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Post by: RumpelFoarskin on March 23, 2018, 03:40:49 PM
I was just wondering what board brand it is. For my own gratification if I could guess right or not. It looks like a dsm (dwindle) or creature/Santa Cruz as nosneb said. Dwindle boards especially the hard rock ones such as palace are amazing in my opinion, great shapes and decks though it’s hard to find fuller noses which is why I can’t always get them. I’ve had two warped ps stix in the last 12 months but no warped dsm decks. They are strong and way more crisp than other shit. It wasn’t at all meant in a negative way. What board brand is it?
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Post by: RumpelFoarskin on March 23, 2018, 03:44:28 PM
Is that dwindle? Not sure if theirs is any good Iíve always stuck with deluxe.

Dwindle is the best board manufacture out right now but no one backs them because their brands are "lame".  Their boards don't warp randomly, are individually pressed (same shape every time), they offer a 30 day guarantee against breakage(no other brand does this), they make their veneers in house as opposed to other companies who get their veneers from a third party, they use resin glue etc.
Some of the hard rock ones Iíve gotten had a 90 day warranty against breakage! Some even have a 60 day. Iím always baffled at the amount of hate they get. I guess brands like crailtap kind of give ďChina madeĒ boards a bad name.
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Post by: Budgie Lasek on March 23, 2018, 06:14:38 PM
Is that dwindle? Not sure if theirs is any good Iíve always stuck with deluxe.

Dwindle is the best board manufacture out right now but no one backs them because their brands are "lame".  Their boards don't warp randomly, are individually pressed (same shape every time), they offer a 30 day guarantee against breakage(no other brand does this), they make their veneers in house as opposed to other companies who get their veneers from a third party, they use resin glue etc.

But they still feel like a Dwindle board, regardless of how well they're made. I haven't stood on a Dwindle pressed board that I liked the feel of since... well, shit - I guess it was actually the Prime woodshop around 1995? So not even DSM anyway. I prefer the concave and kicks of BBS, or South Central. DSM feels nothing like either of those.
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Post by: RumpelFoarskin on March 23, 2018, 06:48:59 PM
Is that dwindle? Not sure if theirs is any good Iíve always stuck with deluxe.

Dwindle is the best board manufacture out right now but no one backs them because their brands are "lame".  Their boards don't warp randomly, are individually pressed (same shape every time), they offer a 30 day guarantee against breakage(no other brand does this), they make their veneers in house as opposed to other companies who get their veneers from a third party, they use resin glue etc.

But they still feel like a Dwindle board, regardless of how well they're made. I haven't stood on a Dwindle pressed board that I liked the feel of since... well, shit - I guess it was actually the Prime woodshop around 1995? So not even DSM anyway. I prefer the concave and kicks of BBS, or South Central. DSM feels nothing like either of those.
How does that make sense all board manufacturers have steep and mellow concaves and full shapes and tapered shapes and steep and mellow kicks. DSM has full concave, mellow concave, medium concave steep kick, mellow kick, full nose and tails tapered nose and tails you could get any shape you desire. They donít just make one single concave and one type of kick and call it a day.
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Post by: TheVisitor on March 23, 2018, 06:58:00 PM
Is that dwindle? Not sure if theirs is any good Iíve always stuck with deluxe.

Dwindle is the best board manufacture out right now but no one backs them because their brands are "lame".  Their boards don't warp randomly, are individually pressed (same shape every time), they offer a 30 day guarantee against breakage(no other brand does this), they make their veneers in house as opposed to other companies who get their veneers from a third party, they use resin glue etc.

But they still feel like a Dwindle board, regardless of how well they're made. I haven't stood on a Dwindle pressed board that I liked the feel of since... well, shit - I guess it was actually the Prime woodshop around 1995? So not even DSM anyway. I prefer the concave and kicks of BBS, or South Central. DSM feels nothing like either of those.
How does that make sense all board manufacturers have steep and mellow concaves and full shapes and tapered shapes and steep and mellow kicks. DSM has full concave, mellow concave, medium concave steep kick, mellow kick, full nose and tails tapered nose and tails you could get any shape you desire. They donít just make one single concave and one type of kick and call it a day.

I was just going to quote him to ask him the same. How does what your saying make any sense Budgie? They offer shapes with different kicks, concaves, wheel bases and they are even starting to offer the shoveled nose/tails(ala BBS/PS Stix) boards starting with their 2018 spring catalog drop. DSM boards are the strongest, poppiest and most durable boards on the market right now, aside from the Powell Flight decks.
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Post by: micky682 on March 23, 2018, 08:07:23 PM
But who really wants to ride an Enjoi or Almost board?
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Post by: Lance on March 23, 2018, 09:17:49 PM
But who really wants to ride an Enjoi or Almost board?
Don't.  Ride an Evisen or Palace instead
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Post by: asakusa75 on March 24, 2018, 01:28:44 AM
But who really wants to ride an Enjoi or Almost board?

Buy a can of white spray paint. I just sprayed up an Enjoi board this morning, going to give it a shot.
Probably be back on Craig boards soon enough though...got one spare just in case I cant adjust.
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Post by: Krooked antihero on March 24, 2018, 03:11:24 AM
But who really wants to ride an Enjoi or Almost board?

Buy a can of white spray paint. I just sprayed up an Enjoi board this morning, going to give it a shot.
Probably be back on Craig boards soon enough though...got one spare just in case I cant adjust.
Damn,no love for Enjoi. And for DSM boards, yea they are solid boards but I never find any shapes that I like...
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Post by: Roisto on March 24, 2018, 07:00:45 AM
But who really wants to ride an Enjoi or Almost board?

Buy a can of white spray paint. I just sprayed up an Enjoi board this morning, going to give it a shot.
Probably be back on Craig boards soon enough though...got one spare just in case I cant adjust.
Damn,no love for Enjoi. And for DSM boards, yea they are solid boards but I never find any shapes that I like...

Seems to be really hard to find anything wider than an 8.25". And their 8.25" is more like an 8.18" or something. I'd buy an Enjoi 8.5" with a 14.5" or longer wheelbase if it doesn't have a completely terrible graphic. But such a board is too hard to come by. I would even have liked one of those My Little Pony boards but they were all some stupidly small sizes.  :-\
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on March 24, 2018, 07:17:00 AM
Obviously some boards can vary in concaves etc but each woodshop has their tendencies....it's pretty easy not to regularly skate DSM stuff because most shops don't carry them.  Or there's always something that beats them out.....I had a Jamie Thomas impact deck yesterday....all lined up to buy it.....'oh sorry...that's not on sale.'

Awesome.....I put it back.  Phew......close one. 
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Budgie Lasek on March 24, 2018, 11:14:16 AM
Is that dwindle? Not sure if theirs is any good Iíve always stuck with deluxe.

Dwindle is the best board manufacture out right now but no one backs them because their brands are "lame".  Their boards don't warp randomly, are individually pressed (same shape every time), they offer a 30 day guarantee against breakage(no other brand does this), they make their veneers in house as opposed to other companies who get their veneers from a third party, they use resin glue etc.

But they still feel like a Dwindle board, regardless of how well they're made. I haven't stood on a Dwindle pressed board that I liked the feel of since... well, shit - I guess it was actually the Prime woodshop around 1995? So not even DSM anyway. I prefer the concave and kicks of BBS, or South Central. DSM feels nothing like either of those.
How does that make sense all board manufacturers have steep and mellow concaves and full shapes and tapered shapes and steep and mellow kicks. DSM has full concave, mellow concave, medium concave steep kick, mellow kick, full nose and tails tapered nose and tails you could get any shape you desire. They donít just make one single concave and one type of kick and call it a day.

I was just going to quote him to ask him the same. How does what your saying make any sense Budgie? They offer shapes with different kicks, concaves, wheel bases and they are even starting to offer the shoveled nose/tails(ala BBS/PS Stix) boards starting with their 2018 spring catalog drop. DSM boards are the strongest, poppiest and most durable boards on the market right now, aside from the Powell Flight decks.

Are you both fairly new to skating? Maybe you're not too particular about shape and concave and can just ride any brand?

Ive worked in the industry for over 20 years, lots of time in distro (distributing all Dwindle brands and a million others), and some time literally manufacturing boards. Each manufacturer's boards have unique traits. Some manufacturers have 'similar' concaves and kicks, but it's never exact. For instance - I've found that South Central is the closest to BBS for feel (would maybe be PS if they put more concave within the tail), but it's still a bit different. Why? Because molds are custom made from scratch. It's not like you just go online and order 'skateboard mold (BBS model)'.

From what you're saying, you think DSM makes every single mold/shape that every other deck manufacturer makes, with the same glues, wood, presses and process - because that's the only way you're gonna get a board from one manufacturer to feel like one from another.

Maybe this will help - 'mellow' is not a unit of measurement. Neither is 'steep', or 'full'.

I'm not trying to say Dwindle boards are bad, at all. They look and feel quality to me. I prefer the feel of a steep BBS board, which does not feel like any DSM board I've steeped on.

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Post by: RumpelFoarskin on March 24, 2018, 12:19:59 PM
If you like BBS because say the concave is steep with a certain kick like you stated, you can get that combo in a dsm board, or a ps stix, or clutch, or south central or anyone. You seem to think BBS just makes one shape, not all BBS will feel exactly like that. You generalized all decks from a board manufacturer as feeling one way when they donít at all. If itís a steep kick and steep concave with a small nose and tail I donít like them regardless of board manufacturer. Dsm makes a lot like that, most of their impact decks have small nose and tails with too much concave and I donít like it at all, that doesnít mean dsm=that shape. I have an 8.38 enjoi with a full nose and tail 14.2 wheelbase mellow concave, medium kick and I bought it because it has a similar shape to the polar Iím on now from generator, and similar to the deluxe full SE shapes also BBS. I donít like Deathwish decks generally because they are mellow with pointy noses and tails that doesnít mean I can say BBS=this deathwish shape I donít like. ďIve never stood on a bbs deck Iíve liked since 2005Ē sounds dumb because thereís even a variance in where it is in the stack while being pressed or what brand they made it for. Iíve been skating since 2003 but that doesnít even matter at all, if youíve skated so long you should know a board manufacturer has a range of different molds and shapes itís impossible to generalize all of them. This isnít cheeseburgers. Thereís definitely a difference in the epoxy resin vs natural glue or the shape of the rails and feel of the board as they are made by different people, that doesnít have to do with the shape of the molds though. Molds are made using numbers and ratios, wheelbase, concave, length of nose and tail, space behind the mounting bolts, two manufacturers can make the same shape and they do. Multiple manufacturers offer the same shapes with the same dimensions. If youíve been skating so long you should start looking at the dimensions of the boards you like and the shape of the nose and tail instead of just who makes it. What dsm decks have you stood on that you didnít like? What size were they? What concave? what kick? Weíre they all different molds? Do you like every single BBS board? Do you like element decks made by BBS? Because element decks made by BBS donít have the concave or kick you stated that you like. 
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Post by: Budgie Lasek on March 24, 2018, 12:45:19 PM
If you like BBS because say the concave is steep with a certain kick like you stated, you can get that combo in a dsm board, or a ps stix, or clutch, or south central or anyone. You seem to think BBS just makes one shape, not all BBS will feel exactly like that. You generalized all decks from a board manufacturer as feeling one way when they donít at all. If itís a steep kick and steep concave with a small nose and tail I donít like them regardless of board manufacturer. Dsm makes a lot like that, most of their impact decks have small nose and tails with too much concave and I donít like it at all, that doesnít mean dsm=that shape. I have an 8.38 enjoi with a full nose and tail 14.2 wheelbase mellow concave, medium kick and I bought it because it has a similar shape to the polar Iím on now from generator, and similar to the deluxe full SE shapes also BBS. I donít like Deathwish decks generally because they are mellow with pointy noses and tails that doesnít mean I can say BBS=this deathwish shape I donít like. ďIve never stood on a bbs deck Iíve liked since 2005Ē sounds dumb because thereís even a variance in where it is in the stack while being pressed or what brand they made it for. Iíve been skating since 2003 but that doesnít even matter at all, if youíve skated so long you should know a board manufacturer has a range of different molds and shapes itís impossible to generalize all of them. This isnít cheeseburgers. Thereís definitely a difference in the epoxy resin vs natural glue or the shape of the rails and feel of the board as they are made by different people, that doesnít have to do with the shape of the molds though. Molds are made using numbers and ratios, wheelbase, concave, length of nose and tail, space behind the mounting bolts, two manufacturers can make the same shape and they do. Multiple manufacturers offer the same shapes with the same dimensions. If youíve been skating so long you should start looking at the dimensions of the boards you like and the shape of the nose and tail instead of just who makes it. What dsm decks have you stood on that you didnít like? What size were they? What concave? what kick? Weíre they all different molds? Do you like every single BBS board? Do you like element decks made by BBS? Because element decks made by BBS donít have the concave or kick you stated that you like.

I guess you completely misunderstood what I was saying, so I'll clarify.

Duhhhhh... every board manufacturer makes all sorts of different molds, does different wheelbases, constructions etc. I love that DLX gets BBS to put the roman numerals on the decks now to specify where they were in the stack because I like a deep concave. 

I probably stood on almost every DSM deck that was my size that came through the distro I worked at for many years, never once felt one I liked. And yes, I realize they make a huge range of molds - still none I liked.

Lots of the BBS boards were too mellow, lots had shapes I didn't like. But, they DO make the particular concave/kick/shape combo I like the most, so that's why i stick with BBS, mostly. Fucking loved the South Central pressed boards I rode, but they're rare around here.

It would seem you're under the impression that each manufacturer makes an exact copy - somewhere in their line of molds - of every mold that every other manufacturer has? Or is it just your favorite, DSM, that does that? They literally make every other mold, by every other manufacturer? Amazing.

Who am I even arguing with? You clearly don't understand that two different manufacturers aren't going to end up with an identical product, or you're just not sensitive enough to the minute differences between decks to notice that sort of thing. I'm incredibly picky about boards - too picky. And that's why I definitely notice a huge difference between the closest DSM mold to my favorite BBS mold, and the real thing. Night and day. I've literally built boards for a living man, you're really gonna try to school me on on this?

Edit: You're not fan of DSM, my bad.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Budgie Lasek on March 24, 2018, 12:56:03 PM
Put it this way - there were several times when, in a whole distro with 30+ deck brands, I couldn't find an 8.25 that I liked. That's how much I notice the details.
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Post by: j....soy..... on March 24, 2018, 10:06:56 PM
Element is PS eh.....
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Post by: pointandclick on March 24, 2018, 11:19:38 PM
Element is PS eh.....
they do both ps and bbs.

my issue with dsm for dwindle specific decks is, they only seem to do full/steep concave on the cheaper hard rock maple/hybrid decks. they used to offer this concave combo on most of the resin 7 decks, its few and far between. also, in canada a palace deck costs shops $52-54 so most shops will sell for $80-90, not making good margin. or you get a dwindle resin 7 deck for $40-50 so they will sell for $75-80 meaning the shop can actually make good money. why buy the same quality deck for more, and have your shop make less?
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Post by: j....soy..... on March 25, 2018, 07:20:12 AM
I usually feel pretty good about buying neither.....
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Post by: curbdrop on March 29, 2018, 09:41:30 PM
Revive is made by clutch, they are good and strong
how you know what Revive boards are made of  ::)

I want more on this. Schrock says they come from the same place as Birdhouse, Slap theorists state that NHS has invested in them somehow, and now this.

I want to see who is supplying this empire.
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Post by: colt cannon lunchbox on March 30, 2018, 02:03:12 AM
Anyone know who does visual? There's a Matt Miller board i'm eyeing off
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Post by: cosmicgypsies on March 30, 2018, 03:49:13 AM
did palace change woodshops over the years? had one in 2013 maybe 2014 and it was great then got one late 2016 and it was pretty bad imo
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Post by: RumpelFoarskin on March 30, 2018, 02:58:32 PM
Revive is made by clutch, they are good and strong
how you know what Revive boards are made of  ::)

I want more on this. Schrock says they come from the same place as Birdhouse, Slap theorists state that NHS has invested in them somehow, and now this.

I want to see who is supplying this empire.
Itís in the clutch catalogue page 33 says they got their test from their friends at ďrevive skateboardsĒ so I asked Andy where they were made on Instagram and he responded with ďclutchĒ. Then I asked clutch if they made revive on Instagram and they said yes.
https://issuu.com/clutchdistribution/docs/clutch_summer_2017_magalog?e=27566739/51518760
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Post by: curbdrop on March 30, 2018, 09:16:48 PM
Revive is made by clutch, they are good and strong
how you know what Revive boards are made of  ::)

I want more on this. Schrock says they come from the same place as Birdhouse, Slap theorists state that NHS has invested in them somehow, and now this.

I want to see who is supplying this empire.
Itís in the clutch catalogue page 33 says they got their test from their friends at ďrevive skateboardsĒ so I asked Andy where they were made on Instagram and he responded with ďclutchĒ. Then I asked clutch if they made revive on Instagram and they said yes.
https://issuu.com/clutchdistribution/docs/clutch_summer_2017_magalog?e=27566739/51518760

Well. There it is.
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Post by: CrappyChan on April 02, 2018, 01:40:04 PM
Also I got a black label recently and it was a Watson laminates, granted it was a pig shape
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Post by: roba on April 03, 2018, 04:57:59 AM
who makes skatemental? (asking for a friend)
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on April 03, 2018, 08:37:28 AM
It had thought same mystery Chinese shop as Crail.....
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Post by: Matthew_James on April 03, 2018, 12:18:41 PM
did palace change woodshops over the years? had one in 2013 maybe 2014 and it was great then got one late 2016 and it was pretty bad imo


No. Sometimes there's a few flukes in a batch. My last one was pretty good, but it was purchased back in September.

What was wrong with the deck you had?
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Post by: Dima on April 03, 2018, 12:49:50 PM
It had thought same mystery Chinese shop as Crail.....

Excel is where crail at least is coming from...
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Bristol_Palin on April 09, 2018, 10:14:11 AM
I remember a while back people talking in this thread about boards they had warping from just sitting around before setting them up. I just set up a passport (generator wood) I got a few months back and it feels great. I also left it in my car for a week during multiple snow storms because I was planning on setting it up while traveling (weather stopped me from setting it up/skating).  No warping at all, but this thread made me kind of nervous about it.

Also I see that this thread says Evisen boards found in North America are South Central. Can anyone confirm this? I really want to try one but do not really want to skate any DSM wood.
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Post by: fat philly skater on April 09, 2018, 11:43:58 AM
I remember a while back people talking in this thread about boards they had warping from just sitting around before setting them up. I just set up a passport (generator wood) I got a few months back and it feels great. I also left it in my car for a week during multiple snow storms because I was planning on setting it up while traveling (weather stopped me from setting it up/skating).  No warping at all, but this thread made me kind of nervous about it.

Also I see that this thread says Evisen boards found in North America are South Central. Can anyone confirm this? I really want to try one but do not really want to skate any DSM wood.
I've heard north american evison boards are dsm
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Clock3rs on April 09, 2018, 12:02:38 PM
Am I the only one not feeling the hype about ps stix boards? I was riding 2 x quasi boards lately and both ended up either chipping in 2 sessions or just breaking after one fucking day.

My generator polar deck was holding up 2 months straight.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on April 09, 2018, 12:05:30 PM
You sure they were PS?  Serial number?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Clock3rs on April 09, 2018, 12:14:23 PM
You sure they were PS?  Serial number?

just ungripped the nose. definitely a ps. "Hand Crafted by PS Stix" blablabla PS59178-0237

probably my last ps stix board for now. gonna stick to generator as they never disappointed me (yet)
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Bristol_Palin on April 09, 2018, 12:21:02 PM
I remember a while back people talking in this thread about boards they had warping from just sitting around before setting them up. I just set up a passport (generator wood) I got a few months back and it feels great. I also left it in my car for a week during multiple snow storms because I was planning on setting it up while traveling (weather stopped me from setting it up/skating).  No warping at all, but this thread made me kind of nervous about it.

Also I see that this thread says Evisen boards found in North America are South Central. Can anyone confirm this? I really want to try one but do not really want to skate any DSM wood.
I've heard north american evison boards are dsm

I just checked Theories online store and it says, "These decks have been imported direct from Japan and are super limited, so jump on these asap!" I am just going to check one out when I see one in a shop, or send an email to Theories and just ask.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: NJFly318 on April 09, 2018, 01:51:52 PM
Am I the only one not feeling the hype about ps stix boards? I was riding 2 x quasi boards lately and both ended up either chipping in 2 sessions or just breaking after one fucking day.

My generator polar deck was holding up 2 months straight.

I have a Street Plant shaped board, first session tail blows out and splits, like it was really dry. The DLX boards that I usually ride just feel so much better and last forever.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on April 09, 2018, 05:48:49 PM
I remember a while back people talking in this thread about boards they had warping from just sitting around before setting them up. I just set up a passport (generator wood) I got a few months back and it feels great. I also left it in my car for a week during multiple snow storms because I was planning on setting it up while traveling (weather stopped me from setting it up/skating).  No warping at all, but this thread made me kind of nervous about it.

Also I see that this thread says Evisen boards found in North America are South Central. Can anyone confirm this? I really want to try one but do not really want to skate any DSM wood.
I've heard north american evison boards are dsm

I just checked Theories online store and it says, "These decks have been imported direct from Japan and are super limited, so jump on these asap!" I am just going to check one out when I see one in a shop, or send an email to Theories and just ask.
but even the ones they sell in Japan are DSM
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on April 09, 2018, 09:46:47 PM
You sure they were PS?  Serial number?

just ungripped the nose. definitely a ps. "Hand Crafted by PS Stix" blablabla PS59178-0237

probably my last ps stix board for now. gonna stick to generator as they never disappointed me (yet)

Good news is that it's actually kinda hard to skate a PS board....everyone seems to be switching over.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Horsemeat on April 10, 2018, 02:28:49 AM
Also had a couple ps stix crap out on me. One started delaminating and chipping off the tail and the other sogged out in like a week. Bummer
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Shuh on April 10, 2018, 06:30:22 AM
Currently on ps stix quasi 8.25 last year's release, I dunno it's holding up even I rode it once in the rain which I thought it  was gonna die but didnt. But then again I'm sort of still a newb only flatground and hillbombs so maybe that's why it's holding up
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: fat philly skater on April 10, 2018, 07:04:30 AM
Am I the only one not feeling the hype about ps stix boards? I was riding 2 x quasi boards lately and both ended up either chipping in 2 sessions or just breaking after one fucking day.

My generator polar deck was holding up 2 months straight.
PS is so hit or miss the last one I had was a super old FA dill photo board that was one of the first few runs they did and I had that for almost 2 months but the one before that was a pretty recent quasi with the bugs on it and it died at almost 2 weeks
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: micky682 on April 10, 2018, 07:28:06 AM
Am I the only one not feeling the hype about ps stix boards? I was riding 2 x quasi boards lately and both ended up either chipping in 2 sessions or just breaking after one fucking day.

My generator polar deck was holding up 2 months straight.
PS is so hit or miss the last one I had was a super old FA dill photo board that was one of the first few runs they did and I had that for almost 2 months but the one before that was a pretty recent quasi with the bugs on it and it died at almost 2 weeks
This. When itís good PS stix is on par with Generator/bbs but itís not as consistent as them.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: NJFly318 on April 13, 2018, 03:56:57 PM
How do South Central produced decks stack up against Bareback/Generator produced DLX decks?
Iíve never skated SC wood.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on April 14, 2018, 12:10:56 AM
A bit heavier.....but not too clunky.  generator has a pretty broad spectrum but I'd say the SC boards I had were a bit steeper.  I'd say the SC was strong too.  I'd say SC is between generator and chapman.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: NJFly318 on April 14, 2018, 04:02:04 AM
A bit heavier.....but not too clunky.  generator has a pretty broad spectrum but I'd say the SC boards I had were a bit steeper.  I'd say the SC was strong too.  I'd say SC is between generator and chapman.

Thanks for the feedback soy.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: furiruuzu on April 14, 2018, 12:57:09 PM
Brujaria is split between Clutch and Quincy. Skating two of their Quincy made 8.3" boards right now and really enjoying them! Just wanted you to know so you could update the list, thanks!
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: halfsleeper on May 04, 2018, 10:25:54 AM
if thereís a shape thread that exists, please point me to it. apologies for being uneducated / out of place / generally existing.

i really love a specific hockey shape. 8.5 x 32ish x 14ish wb, stubby nose and tail, steeper concave but not as crazy as some FA boards (some have such short tails it's crazy). the last 3 iíve skated have delammed and exploded in a similar way. iím really bummed on quality, fairly certain they were all PS.

i just want this shape. where go / wat do?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: FrozenIndustries on May 04, 2018, 11:08:01 AM
if thereís a shape thread that exists, please point me to it. apologies for being uneducated / out of place / generally existing.

i really love a specific hockey shape. 8.5 x 32ish x 14ish wb, stubby nose and tail, steeper concave but not as crazy as some FA boards (some have such short tails it's crazy). the last 3 iíve skated have delammed and exploded in a similar way. iím really bummed on quality, fairly certain they were all PS.

i just want this shape. where go / wat do?

If it is what I am thinking of, the Quasi 8.5x32.12 (14.25wb), squarish nose and tail. Also a PS board.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: halfsleeper on May 04, 2018, 11:16:57 AM
If it is what I am thinking of, the Quasi 8.5x32.12 (14.25wb), squarish nose and tail. Also a PS board.

right, very similar. but again i'm mainly bummed on the PS quality control issues.

anyone make this shape through BBS? i've heard hockey/FA are transitioning to BBS so i'm on the lookout. just curious if this shape exists in other BBS clients - maybe hookups/JK?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: TwisT on May 04, 2018, 11:26:10 AM
If it is what I am thinking of, the Quasi 8.5x32.12 (14.25wb), squarish nose and tail. Also a PS board.

right, very similar. but again i'm mainly bummed on the PS quality control issues.

anyone make this shape through BBS? i've heard hockey/FA are transitioning to BBS so i'm on the lookout. just curious if this shape exists in other BBS clients - maybe hookups/JK?

Hookups/JK are on the pointier side. WKND may have what you're looking for
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: FrenchFriedClownFingers on May 04, 2018, 11:53:21 AM
scumco logo boards are made by control
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: pointandclick on May 04, 2018, 05:44:22 PM
scumco logo boards are made by control
which logo boards?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: FrenchFriedClownFingers on May 05, 2018, 01:37:00 AM
scumco logo boards are made by control
which logo boards?

(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/56b82568c2ea51d6b7d0e10f/56bcc06b8a65e25336a0130f/5a074d0ec83025174de09b91/1522685268384/LogoBoard.jpg?format=500w)

" currently the logoboards are made by control in canada, their concave is like the spoon but not quite as steep.
nick "
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: TwisT on May 05, 2018, 08:26:55 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/TNe5i2Ml.jpg)
if anyone was curious about BLVD.

Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: The Woodsman on May 07, 2018, 11:18:41 AM
scumco logo boards are made by control
which logo boards?

Why is Scumco using three different wood shops at the same time? Seems like the inconsistency would bug people.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: FrenchFriedClownFingers on May 07, 2018, 11:45:18 AM
scumco logo boards are made by control
which logo boards?

Why is Scumco using three different wood shops at the same time? Seems like the inconsistency would bug people.

who else are they using? i was kinda bummed about the shape being different. how are the boards from polar? is the concave somewhere in the middle? im looking for a deck that's like the silverspoon concave but has a pointy taper to the tail.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: oneOone on May 07, 2018, 11:52:13 AM
scumco logo boards are made by control
which logo boards?

(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/56b82568c2ea51d6b7d0e10f/56bcc06b8a65e25336a0130f/5a074d0ec83025174de09b91/1522685268384/LogoBoard.jpg?format=500w)

" currently the logoboards are made by control in canada, their concave is like the spoon but not quite as steep.
nick "

Only for the recent ones? Got a 2016/17 Logo Board and I assumed they are made by Pennswood, feels and looks the same as the Scumco pro board I got.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on May 07, 2018, 12:44:48 PM
The control boards I've seen have a different side profile, more square.  I'm sure the molds vary but they tend to be medium or on steeper side but mellower concaves.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Violator on May 07, 2018, 10:28:35 PM
Who presses Becky Factory?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: pointandclick on May 07, 2018, 11:14:57 PM
scumco logo boards are made by control
which logo boards?

Why is Scumco using three different wood shops at the same time? Seems like the inconsistency would bug people.

who else are they using? i was kinda bummed about the shape being different. how are the boards from polar? is the concave somewhere in the middle? im looking for a deck that's like the silverspoon concave but has a pointy taper to the tail.
pennswood is their primary woodshop.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: micky682 on May 08, 2018, 06:29:37 AM
Who presses Becky Factory?
Chapman I believe.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: ungzilla on May 08, 2018, 08:05:26 AM
If it is what I am thinking of, the Quasi 8.5x32.12 (14.25wb), squarish nose and tail. Also a PS board.

right, very similar. but again i'm mainly bummed on the PS quality control issues.

anyone make this shape through BBS? i've heard hockey/FA are transitioning to BBS so i'm on the lookout. just curious if this shape exists in other BBS clients - maybe hookups/JK?

Hookups/JK are on the pointier side. WKND may have what you're looking for

WKND also PS Stix. This is the shape I ride, or it was, but it seems like Quasi changed it. Previously there had been two 8.5 shapes for Quasi, one was the 8.5 (front truck) x 32.125 x 14.25 that was kinda tapered (8.25 back truck), and the other was longer and not tapered. I had my shop order a couple of the shorter shape a couple of months ago and all were 8.5 that did not taper and a slightly different nose/tail. No me gusta. So far I've been able to get WKND with the exact shape that I'm used to, the 8.5 with the taper. I guess this doesn't help you at all except to tell you that if you go with WKND it will not alleviate your woodshop issue.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: TheVisitor on May 08, 2018, 07:09:18 PM
Someone in the Habitat X Alien Workshop thread said that Workshop recently left BBS/Generator. Anyone spotted these new Alien decks and see who's pressing them? Wouldn't be surprised if they went back to PS Stix, which is what Habitat is currently using and AWS used to use.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: micky682 on May 08, 2018, 07:43:14 PM
Someone in the Habitat X Alien Workshop thread said that Workshop recently left BBS/Generator. Anyone spotted these new Alien decks and see who's pressing them? Wouldn't be surprised if they went back to PS Stix, which is what Habitat is currently using and AWS used to use.
I hope not.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: bumpnrun on May 08, 2018, 09:42:40 PM
Someone in the Habitat X Alien Workshop thread said that Workshop recently left BBS/Generator. Anyone spotted these new Alien decks and see who's pressing them? Wouldn't be surprised if they went back to PS Stix, which is what Habitat is currently using and AWS used to use.
I hope not.

I just checked the tops of a bunch of alien and habitat boards at sw. Didn't see a single alien with a ps serial number. Some habitats were ps stix.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: palelight on May 08, 2018, 10:25:26 PM
Someone in the Habitat X Alien Workshop thread said that Workshop recently left BBS/Generator. Anyone spotted these new Alien decks and see who's pressing them? Wouldn't be surprised if they went back to PS Stix, which is what Habitat is currently using and AWS used to use.
I hope not.

Had a Yaje deck from their most recent drop. Was still BBS. Hope they don't switch to PS, the Yaje (and I think one or two of the Guevara) decks had full-shape specs - 8.25x32.25x14.5 - but with normal shape nose and tails.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Kaydubbb on May 09, 2018, 01:57:28 AM
Can someone recommend me a deck from a company using bbs/generator. I like mellowish concave and really round nose and tail. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: micky682 on May 09, 2018, 06:30:00 AM
Can someone recommend me a deck from a company using bbs/generator. I like mellowish concave and really round nose and tail. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance!
Anti hero.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: FrozenIndustries on May 09, 2018, 06:45:55 AM
Someone in the Habitat X Alien Workshop thread said that Workshop recently left BBS/Generator. Anyone spotted these new Alien decks and see who's pressing them? Wouldn't be surprised if they went back to PS Stix, which is what Habitat is currently using and AWS used to use.
I hope not.

Had a Yaje deck from their most recent drop. Was still BBS. Hope they don't switch to PS, the Yaje (and I think one or two of the Guevara) decks had full-shape specs - 8.25x32.25x14.5 - but with normal shape nose and tails.

Yeah, I also got one from the latest drop and it is BBS. Pretty sure person in the other thread was confused and possibly referring to them leaving Tum Yeto a while back?

Either way, hope they stay because the 8.5x32.25 shape is amazing.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: roba on May 09, 2018, 07:05:07 AM
Can someone recommend me a deck from a company using bbs/generator. I like mellowish concave and really round nose and tail. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance!
Anti hero.

bump, the one i had (8.5 classic eagle) was mellow and the nose/tail were round, but it felt more like an 8.38 than 8.5. wasn't really a problem for me tho and was probably caused by the fact that it was short (31.8 with 14.25wb) as i've recently ridden on a friend's 8.625 ah classic eagle which i reckon is 32.25 in length and it felt true to size
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: art hellman on May 09, 2018, 08:00:56 AM
Can someone recommend me a deck from a company using bbs/generator. I like mellowish concave and really round nose and tail. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance!
Anti hero.

bump, the one i had (8.5 classic eagle) was mellow and the nose/tail were round, but it felt more like an 8.38 than 8.5. wasn't really a problem for me tho and was probably caused by the fact that it was short (31.8 with 14.25wb) as i've recently ridden on a friend's 8.625 ah classic eagle which i reckon is 32.25 in length and it felt true to size

the Blue Eagle 8.5 has the same length/WB dimensions as an Anti Hero Gerwer 8.06.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: art hellman on May 09, 2018, 08:01:34 AM
anyone skate stuff made at Control?  Anyone have any info on Control?  Seems like a lot of the small brands are moving their production there...
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: FrenchFriedClownFingers on May 09, 2018, 02:02:07 PM
anyone skate stuff made at Control?  Anyone have any info on Control?  Seems like a lot of the small brands are moving their production there...

currently skating a scumco made by them, it's really nice. pretty flat but i am fine with that. solid boards
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: roba on May 09, 2018, 02:57:15 PM
Can someone recommend me a deck from a company using bbs/generator. I like mellowish concave and really round nose and tail. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance!
Anti hero.

bump, the one i had (8.5 classic eagle) was mellow and the nose/tail were round, but it felt more like an 8.38 than 8.5. wasn't really a problem for me tho and was probably caused by the fact that it was short (31.8 with 14.25wb) as i've recently ridden on a friend's 8.625 ah classic eagle which i reckon is 32.25 in length and it felt true to size

the Blue Eagle 8.5 has the same length/WB dimensions as an Anti Hero Gerwer 8.06.

from what i can see some websites say that the gerwer is 31.97 with 14.38wb while some others say it's 31.8 with 14.25wb. all of them say that the blue eagle is 31.8 14.25wb. i don't know anymore though, it felt pretty short so i feel like it was 31.8 but i could be wrong as anything nearing 32 inches in length is fine by me
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: NootNoot on May 11, 2018, 11:47:36 AM
Weird question but why do some boards have the black generator sticker on the front bolts but others like deluxe (made by generator)  donít have it? Or even polar some will have it and some wonít even though they are both generator. All isle decks have it. I swear if a deck has the generator sticker it feels like a marginally better deck crisp and light and a better shape. It might be in my head though.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on May 12, 2018, 06:39:17 AM
I just assumed there are tons of different options at generator some better than others....I always insisted the opposite ie. Real boards were the best.....
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: nosneb on May 12, 2018, 07:39:54 PM
I find that Real always uses the better technology or have different concaves while Krooked and 18 uses more standard stuff.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Shuh on May 16, 2018, 11:00:57 PM
Chocolate just came out a series made in North America anyone know which woodshop?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: ballintoohard on May 17, 2018, 11:14:58 AM

Got a Polar 8.5- what companies have a similar shape with the large nose, sorta pointy tail, moderate wheelbase?  I think it is 8.5x32x14.5.  It feels narrower than it is, manual balance is awesome, overall just a super fun deck to skate.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: palelight on May 17, 2018, 12:58:32 PM

Got a Polar 8.5- what companies have a similar shape with the large nose, sorta pointy tail, moderate wheelbase?  I think it is 8.5x32x14.5.  It feels narrower than it is, manual balance is awesome, overall just a super fun deck to skate.

Magenta and Isle have similar shapes/specs. Also on Generator wood. Although Isle's may have more rounded tails now that I think about it.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: roba on May 17, 2018, 01:50:27 PM
I find that Real always uses the better technology or have different concaves while Krooked and 18 uses more standard stuff.

i agree, out of all generator decks i had a real board lasted me for the longest time
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: micky682 on May 17, 2018, 04:24:26 PM
Are all FA/Hockey boards Generator wood now?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: NJFly318 on May 17, 2018, 06:55:12 PM
Someone in the Habitat X Alien Workshop thread said that Workshop recently left BBS/Generator. Anyone spotted these new Alien decks and see who's pressing them? Wouldn't be surprised if they went back to PS Stix, which is what Habitat is currently using and AWS used to use.
I hope not.

Had a Yaje deck from their most recent drop. Was still BBS. Hope they don't switch to PS, the Yaje (and I think one or two of the Guevara) decks had full-shape specs - 8.25x32.25x14.5 - but with normal shape nose and tails.

I have the Price Point ďHarvestĒ deck in 8.5Ē itís a nice square nose and definitely made by BBS/Generator.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Willie on May 18, 2018, 05:56:09 AM
Does BBS have any consistent markings across brands or anything to clue you in that they pressed the board?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: jerrygurneyscream on May 18, 2018, 06:24:30 AM
what ever happened to welcome and program being connected? its like they started out as a welcome sister company and then just stared doing their own thing. also Carpet Co boards are generator too get them on there son.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: TheBoognish on May 23, 2018, 06:02:57 PM
Anyone skate Chapman lately ?

My local shop has a few Hotel Blue boards in stock and I'm curious.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: fat philly skater on May 24, 2018, 06:49:54 AM
Anyone skate Chapman lately ?

My local shop has a few Hotel Blue boards in stock and I'm curious.

I had one in november, it was really good IMO. Lasted me for a really good amount of time
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: TheBoognish on May 24, 2018, 04:15:17 PM
Anyone skate Chapman lately ?

My local shop has a few Hotel Blue boards in stock and I'm curious.

I had one in november, it was really good IMO. Lasted me for a really good amount of time

Thanks for the input.

I'll give 'em a try if they aren't warped. I had a few Hopps boards a couple years ago I loved, however, 2 of them were warped and too much of a hassle to send back. The un-warped ones were awesome...boards my 200 lb ass couldn't break.



Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Sundaynuggets on May 24, 2018, 06:45:25 PM
Anyone skate Chapman lately ?

My local shop has a few Hotel Blue boards in stock and I'm curious.

I had one in november, it was really good IMO. Lasted me for a really good amount of time

Thanks for the input.

I'll give 'em a try if they aren't warped. I had a few Hopps boards a couple years ago I loved, however, 2 of them were warped and too much of a hassle to send back. The un-warped ones were awesome...boards my 200 lb ass couldn't break.

I rode one of the ZY Matt reason decks from Chapman recently and loved it. Great shape, lasted forever and kept its pop nice
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: hey pickle on May 27, 2018, 06:00:36 AM
anyone know what the deal is with heroin decks in uk/europe? thought heroin were dsm for their non north america boards. wondering as it says made in mexico that its different wood to normal, maybe just for the wordsmith series? or do dsm usually have a made in mexico sticker? i cant keep up. heres a pic of the front bolt holes

(http://oi68.tinypic.com/ie4g1g.jpg)
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on May 27, 2018, 07:03:40 AM
Noticed some toy machine logo but not necessarily price point w made in USA......Watson?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: hey pickle on May 27, 2018, 07:23:15 AM
thanks man, makes sense. i dont mind dsm but bbs is preferable so thats cool
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Smartass on May 30, 2018, 07:49:27 AM
Anyone skate an Evisen recently?

Found out one of my locals carries Palace and Evisen, so I'm curious about either one. They typical DSM concave and shit?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on May 30, 2018, 05:29:42 PM
Anyone skate an Evisen recently?

Found out one of my locals carries Palace and Evisen, so I'm curious about either one. They typical DSM concave and shit?

apparently so ... I really should give them some love actually
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: MC3 on May 30, 2018, 11:08:32 PM
I don't really know much about how price points and stuff work, but isn't it usually like cheaper wood? I just gota a habitat price point and the shape is so good. Is it PS Stix or some other wood?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: micky682 on May 31, 2018, 08:57:48 AM
Anyone riding the new Crailtap wood? Really like the look of the Skiduls shape.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: bumpnrun on May 31, 2018, 10:23:06 AM
I don't really know much about how price points and stuff work, but isn't it usually like cheaper wood? I just gota a habitat price point and the shape is so good. Is it PS Stix or some other wood?

If it is PS, it will say on the top with an engraving that looks something like:

PS# xxxxxxxxx

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_JCCgPJG1P98/SP1ei2znBYI/AAAAAAAABiI/rTt57qaRSE0/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/psstix.jpg)
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: TwisT on May 31, 2018, 12:12:04 PM
Anyone know the deal with Unified? Are they a woodshop? Printer? Anyone ever shop with them?
https://www.instagram.com/unifiedskatesupply/
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: kneebone on May 31, 2018, 01:20:28 PM
Noticed some toy machine logo but not necessarily price point w made in USA......Watson?
i believe this is the new stamp Watson is using
(https://image.ibb.co/bKcNFy/watson.jpg)
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Beeker on May 31, 2018, 03:05:34 PM
Anyone riding the new Crailtap wood? Really like the look of the Skiduls shape.

I'm skating one now and it feels very slightly lighter and thinner, but otherwise appears to be of similar quality. I  was debating whether or not I like the old or new wood better because I have one of each setup, but I decided to not care and they have different trucks and wheels anyways. They are fine for me and I love the shape and they are on sale all the time, but if you didn't like them before I doubt you will now.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on May 31, 2018, 11:51:00 PM
I don't really know much about how price points and stuff work, but isn't it usually like cheaper wood? I just gota a habitat price point and the shape is so good. Is it PS Stix or some other wood?
I don't think PS does price point stuff...and I think habitat is still generator usually...maybe price
Point China?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: patrick c. on June 02, 2018, 06:44:20 PM
Probably been discussed some pages back but does anyone know about 917?  Last I heard it was PS Stix and I just want to make sure they aren't the shapes that taper over the back truck(ie an 8.5 over the front truck and an 8.3ish over the back truck).  My local doesn't stock them.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Smartass on June 02, 2018, 09:52:11 PM
Anyone skate an Evisen recently?

Found out one of my locals carries Palace and Evisen, so I'm curious about either one. They typical DSM concave and shit?

apparently so ... I really should give them some love actually

Quick update for you Imp, so yeah mine has a really mellow concave. Almost flat even. Nose and Tail tend to be a little more square compared normal decks. Short af wheel base for an 8.38, I believe it was a about 14.15ish.

So far Iím liking it though. Didnít think I would like the flatness of it, but the shape and wheelbase are helping me adjust.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: micky682 on June 03, 2018, 06:14:19 AM
Probably been discussed some pages back but does anyone know about 917?  Last I heard it was PS Stix and I just want to make sure they aren't the shapes that taper over the back truck(ie an 8.5 over the front truck and an 8.3ish over the back truck).  My local doesn't stock them.
BBS/Generator wood. Big nose and tail, not like PS standard shapes.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: TheBoognish on June 03, 2018, 07:36:17 AM
So I finally got a Hotel Blue board (Chapman) and after a week of riding it, I fucking love it. I'm sticking with Chapman for a while.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: patrick c. on June 03, 2018, 07:49:24 AM
Probably been discussed some pages back but does anyone know about 917?  Last I heard it was PS Stix and I just want to make sure they aren't the shapes that taper over the back truck(ie an 8.5 over the front truck and an 8.3ish over the back truck).  My local doesn't stock them.
BBS/Generator wood. Big nose and tail, not like PS standard shapes.
Thanks Micky! Hyped to try one.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: TheBoognish on June 03, 2018, 08:09:09 AM
Probably been discussed some pages back but does anyone know about 917?  Last I heard it was PS Stix and I just want to make sure they aren't the shapes that taper over the back truck(ie an 8.5 over the front truck and an 8.3ish over the back truck).  My local doesn't stock them.
BBS/Generator wood. Big nose and tail, not like PS standard shapes.
Thanks Micky! Hyped to try one.

Saw a few at my local shop and seeing how everyone of them was slightly warped, I was sure they were PS Stix
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on June 03, 2018, 05:37:53 PM
Quick update for you Imp, so yeah mine has a really mellow concave. Almost flat even. Nose and Tail tend to be a little more square compared normal decks. Short af wheel base for an 8.38, I believe it was a about 14.15ish.

So far Iím liking it though. Didnít think I would like the flatness of it, but the shape and wheelbase are helping me adjust.
nice, cheers for that! Yeah, they either have flat concave or super steep concave by the looks of it. A Japanese site that completely nerds out on board shapes etc. says they mellow ones are just like Enjoy mellow concave which I've never tried. Anyway, those dimensions actually sound really fun for a 8.38 ... might have to check one out. The Northern Co. I'm riding at the moment is surprisingly flat and I'm still not sure whether I dig it or not
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Smartass on June 03, 2018, 09:52:10 PM
Quick update for you Imp, so yeah mine has a really mellow concave. Almost flat even. Nose and Tail tend to be a little more square compared normal decks. Short af wheel base for an 8.38, I believe it was a about 14.15ish.

So far Iím liking it though. Didnít think I would like the flatness of it, but the shape and wheelbase are helping me adjust.
nice, cheers for that! Yeah, they either have flat concave or super steep concave by the looks of it. A Japanese site that completely nerds out on board shapes etc. says they mellow ones are just like Enjoy mellow concave which I've never tried. Anyway, those dimensions actually sound really fun for a 8.38 ... might have to check one out. The Northern Co. I'm riding at the moment is surprisingly flat and I'm still not sure whether I dig it or not

Fuck kinda wish I had come across one of the super steep ones, but most of the ones at my local were smaller sizes than I personally wouldíve liked to ride.
 
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on June 03, 2018, 10:43:47 PM
Quick update for you Imp, so yeah mine has a really mellow concave. Almost flat even. Nose and Tail tend to be a little more square compared normal decks. Short af wheel base for an 8.38, I believe it was a about 14.15ish.

So far Iím liking it though. Didnít think I would like the flatness of it, but the shape and wheelbase are helping me adjust.
nice, cheers for that! Yeah, they either have flat concave or super steep concave by the looks of it. A Japanese site that completely nerds out on board shapes etc. says they mellow ones are just like Enjoy mellow concave which I've never tried. Anyway, those dimensions actually sound really fun for a 8.38 ... might have to check one out. The Northern Co. I'm riding at the moment is surprisingly flat and I'm still not sure whether I dig it or not

Fuck kinda wish I had come across one of the super steep ones, but most of the ones at my local were smaller sizes than I personally wouldíve liked to ride.
 
http://r-fskate.com/shopdetail/000000005967/de_evisen/page1/order/
see some pics there! Have no idea what a almost "full press" looks like but I've seen one of these in person and it looked pretty steep! the great thing about this site is they take pics of the board(s) sitting on top of DLX boards for reference
edit: or at least they do in most pics: http://r-fskate.com/shopdetail/000000007903/de_evisen/page1/order/
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Fifty8mm on June 05, 2018, 12:08:12 AM
I can vouch that Scumco uses different workshops. The new drop uses Ps stix(bummer) on the LL cool J Abair deck and another for the new Kyle Nicholson. Which looks amazing in shape and the colors used. The cans pop so good.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Syhr on June 05, 2018, 02:35:03 AM
Soooo I know Habitat have changed their shape a fair bit over the years, but can anyone who has had one recently let me know what they're like?

I used to skate them all the time before they went to Tum Yeto and absolutely loved them. However, under Yeto they all seemed really flat and wasn't really keen. I've heard they're now away from there so hopefully back to a deeper shape.

Anyone got the scoop?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: baustin on June 05, 2018, 06:47:58 AM
Soooo I know Habitat have changed their shape a fair bit over the years, but can anyone who has had one recently let me know what they're like?

I used to skate them all the time before they went to Tum Yeto and absolutely loved them. However, under Yeto they all seemed really flat and wasn't really keen. I've heard they're now away from there so hopefully back to a deeper shape.

Anyone got the scoop?

I'm skating Flo Mirtain's board right now (8 x 31.5 wb 14) and it's solid. I guess it's PS stix still even though there was no stamp on top, just a made in mexico sticker. It's definitely not flat, good amount of concave and steep kicks which I like. The only thing that's a little weird is the overall width seems to taper in ever so slightly from nose to tail, but I don't really notice it when I'm actually skating.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: FrozenIndustries on June 05, 2018, 07:03:13 AM
Soooo I know Habitat have changed their shape a fair bit over the years, but can anyone who has had one recently let me know what they're like?

I used to skate them all the time before they went to Tum Yeto and absolutely loved them. However, under Yeto they all seemed really flat and wasn't really keen. I've heard they're now away from there so hopefully back to a deeper shape.

Anyone got the scoop?

I'm skating Flo Mirtain's board right now (8 x 31.5 wb 14) and it's solid. I guess it's PS stix still even though there was no stamp on top, just a made in mexico sticker. It's definitely not flat, good amount of concave and steep kicks which I like. The only thing that's a little weird is the overall width seems to taper in ever so slightly from nose to tail, but I don't really notice it when I'm actually skating.

Yo, thank you for posting this. That graphic is amazing and after hearing this I think I am going to have to buy it even though the WB is a little short for me. Is the bottom ply stained or natural?

There not being a stamp on the top and the fact that they are rejoining AWS makes me wonder if this one is BBS.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: baustin on June 05, 2018, 08:04:31 AM
Soooo I know Habitat have changed their shape a fair bit over the years, but can anyone who has had one recently let me know what they're like?

I used to skate them all the time before they went to Tum Yeto and absolutely loved them. However, under Yeto they all seemed really flat and wasn't really keen. I've heard they're now away from there so hopefully back to a deeper shape.

Anyone got the scoop?

I'm skating Flo Mirtain's board right now (8 x 31.5 wb 14) and it's solid. I guess it's PS stix still even though there was no stamp on top, just a made in mexico sticker. It's definitely not flat, good amount of concave and steep kicks which I like. The only thing that's a little weird is the overall width seems to taper in ever so slightly from nose to tail, but I don't really notice it when I'm actually skating.

Yo, thank you for posting this. That graphic is amazing and after hearing this I think I am going to have to buy it even though the WB is a little short for me. Is the bottom ply stained or natural?

There not being a stamp on the top and the fact that they are rejoining AWS makes me wonder if this one is BBS.

Could be BBS, do they also press their boards in Mexico? The bottom ply on mine is stained yellow.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: FrozenIndustries on June 05, 2018, 08:08:57 AM
Soooo I know Habitat have changed their shape a fair bit over the years, but can anyone who has had one recently let me know what they're like?

I used to skate them all the time before they went to Tum Yeto and absolutely loved them. However, under Yeto they all seemed really flat and wasn't really keen. I've heard they're now away from there so hopefully back to a deeper shape.

Anyone got the scoop?

I'm skating Flo Mirtain's board right now (8 x 31.5 wb 14) and it's solid. I guess it's PS stix still even though there was no stamp on top, just a made in mexico sticker. It's definitely not flat, good amount of concave and steep kicks which I like. The only thing that's a little weird is the overall width seems to taper in ever so slightly from nose to tail, but I don't really notice it when I'm actually skating.

Yo, thank you for posting this. That graphic is amazing and after hearing this I think I am going to have to buy it even though the WB is a little short for me. Is the bottom ply stained or natural?

There not being a stamp on the top and the fact that they are rejoining AWS makes me wonder if this one is BBS.

Could be BBS, do they also press their boards in Mexico? The bottom ply on mine is stained yellow.

Yeah, they press them in Mexico as well and just have a sticker, no stamp/etch.

Thanks for the info re: the bottom ply.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on June 05, 2018, 08:47:20 AM
My guess is it's BBS...they switched shortly after Tum Yeto....isn't the little round Mexico sticker BBS? 
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: bumpnrun on June 05, 2018, 09:52:05 AM
^ if there's no ps serial number, it's not ps stix. For habitat and alien, it's a pretty safe bet that it's BBS if it only has the mexico sticker.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: baustin on June 11, 2018, 07:13:50 AM
The latest drop from Habitat is all BBS, and there's no Daryl board  :)
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: TwisT on June 11, 2018, 07:31:18 AM
The latest drop from Habitat is all BBS, and there's no Daryl board  :)

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0877/6596/products/origin_low_res_6c3f88d9-bfde-409e-9d2e-fe6a48998d17_1024x1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: heritage on June 11, 2018, 07:35:46 AM
Regarding Habitat - that Flo board is BBS pressed.

If it's stamped on the top it's PS Stix, if it's just the sticker it's BBS. The new boards (Paper Skaters and Charley Harper) are BBS.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Beeker on June 11, 2018, 07:40:10 AM
The latest drop from Habitat is all BBS, and there's no Daryl board  :)

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0877/6596/products/origin_low_res_6c3f88d9-bfde-409e-9d2e-fe6a48998d17_1024x1024.jpg)

What is the "about this skateboard" graphic referring to?

I just bought the Selego re-issue hoping for BBS and it's a PS Stix.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: TwisT on June 11, 2018, 07:50:21 AM
This image was attached to the Harper series collection of decks which I assume is the lasted drop
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: heritage on June 11, 2018, 08:03:43 AM
The latest drop from Habitat is all BBS, and there's no Daryl board  :)

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0877/6596/products/origin_low_res_6c3f88d9-bfde-409e-9d2e-fe6a48998d17_1024x1024.jpg

What is the "about this skateboard" graphic referring to?

I just bought the Selego re-issue hoping for BBS and it's a PS Stix.

As much as I wanted one of those Exposition reissue, the fact they were PS Stix kept me away.

Regarding that posted graphic above, it was originally designed for PS boards but they are just using it generically for all their releases.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: TD on June 16, 2018, 02:11:14 AM
I never really paid attention to who made heroin boards before but finding out they're BBS/Generator makes a lot of sense. I fucking love the shape I'm currently riding, 8.38 Tony Karr Hirotton board. Explains why I thought it felt similar to real boards I'd had in the past
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Jud Nestorkins on June 17, 2018, 05:26:13 AM
Hey, I haven't ridden a Dwindle deck in 12 years. My local shop has a few Almost decks that are super cheap and a good size/shape?


How disappointed am I going to be if I get one haha?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: TwisT on June 17, 2018, 07:13:54 AM
Hey, I haven't ridden a Dwindle deck in 12 years. My local shop has a few Almost decks that are super cheap and a good size/shape?


How disappointed am I going to be if I get one haha?

I had an enjoy r7 Samaria deck back in december and it was great. I currently have another r7 sitting in the stack. I'd say it's on par with my BBS deck I'm currently riding.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Jud Nestorkins on June 17, 2018, 08:51:29 PM
Hey, I haven't ridden a Dwindle deck in 12 years. My local shop has a few Almost decks that are super cheap and a good size/shape?


How disappointed am I going to be if I get one haha?

I had an enjoy r7 Samaria deck back in december and it was great. I currently have another r7 sitting in the stack. I'd say it's on par with my BBS deck I'm currently riding.
Hell yeah! Thanks man!
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: hip bruise on June 18, 2018, 01:57:15 PM
Sorry if this was already covered, but any idea if the Numbers edition 4 decks are ps or bbs?

Specifically looking at the silvas
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: micky682 on June 19, 2018, 08:12:27 AM
Sorry if this was already covered, but any idea if the Numbers edition 4 decks are ps or bbs?

Specifically looking at the silvas
I asked Emage skate shop in Denver and they said it is Bareback wood. Iím also interested in their boards. Specifically the Guy shape.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on June 19, 2018, 08:33:08 AM
I assume you guys don't have access to physically see them....they were PS but could easily be BBS/Gen.  If they have PS serial number then...PS...otherwise BBS....
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: CHOW on June 19, 2018, 08:57:41 AM
Not sure if anyone else mentioned this earlier in the thread, but Supreme has been with Generator for a few years now. I think the bling logo was either the last Chapman board or the first Generator board, but don't quote me on that.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: hip bruise on June 20, 2018, 06:39:20 AM
I assume you guys don't have access to physically see them....they were PS but could easily be BBS/Gen.  If they have PS serial number then...PS...otherwise BBS....
Thx yeah, havenít been able to track one down in shops near me.
Think Iím going to roll the dice and cop online...Iíll check back in once it arrives if anyone else is curious
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Little Debbie on June 20, 2018, 08:58:30 AM
Not sure if anyone else mentioned this earlier in the thread, but Supreme has been with Generator for a few years now. I think the bling logo was either the last Chapman board or the first Generator board, but don't quote me on that.
thanks but none of us on here are gonna shell out for a Supreme board
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: pointandclick on June 20, 2018, 09:38:45 AM
Sorry if this was already covered, but any idea if the Numbers edition 4 decks are ps or bbs?

Specifically looking at the silvas
I asked Emage skate shop in Denver and they said it is Bareback wood. Iím also interested in their boards. Specifically the Guy shape.
ive only ever seen bbs numbers decks.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: TwisT on June 20, 2018, 09:47:53 AM
One more time.
Can someone explain the difference between BBS and generator? Is one manufacturing and the other distribution?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: bumpnrun on June 20, 2018, 10:29:19 AM
One more time.
Can someone explain the difference between BBS and generator? Is one manufacturing and the other distribution?

The same thing. Same address.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: CHOW on June 20, 2018, 12:34:25 PM
Not sure if anyone else mentioned this earlier in the thread, but Supreme has been with Generator for a few years now. I think the bling logo was either the last Chapman board or the first Generator board, but don't quote me on that.
thanks but none of us on here are gonna shell out for a Supreme board
There are definitely some weirdos on here that would shell out $200 for a Mike Crum Prime board. I have a hard time believing that nobody on Slap would pay $60 for a Supreme board.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: FrozenIndustries on June 22, 2018, 07:27:26 AM
Anyone skate a Chapman recently? I am trying to figure out if they measure true to size or if they're slightly smaller than the listing ala PS Stix.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Dr Steve Brule on June 22, 2018, 07:46:46 AM
Hey did Girl start making their boards somewhere else? I bought 2 shapes, 8.25 and 8.37. This shape was excellent: (https://www.warehouseskateboards.com/images/products/hi-res/1DGIRMCCLBX82EE.jpg)

The wood also feels much better. Can anyone help identify which G0XX shape this board was?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Smartass on June 22, 2018, 08:28:33 AM
Hey did Girl start making their boards somewhere else? I bought 2 shapes, 8.25 and 8.37. This shape was excellent: (https://www.warehouseskateboards.com/images/products/hi-res/1DGIRMCCLBX82EE.jpg)

The wood also feels much better. Can anyone help identify which G0XX shape this board was?

Yup, I believe earlier this year/very late last year they said that they moved over to another manufacturer spot. Still in China, but not DSM from what we've seen in the thread.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: MetaldudeX on June 22, 2018, 08:44:29 AM
This thread is eye opening. All this time I thought I was trying something ďnewĒ but I was skating all BBS wood. 

Iím looking for something different but still good. Any recommendations?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: TwisT on June 22, 2018, 08:58:39 AM
This thread is eye opening. All this time I thought I was trying something ďnewĒ but I was skating all BBS wood. 

Iím looking for something different but still good. Any recommendations?

track down one of the brands that use drifter
https://www.instagram.com/drifterskateboardmfg/?hl=en
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Smartass on June 22, 2018, 09:06:01 AM
This thread is eye opening. All this time I thought I was trying something ďnewĒ but I was skating all BBS wood. 

Iím looking for something different but still good. Any recommendations?
You might not be trying different wood, but what you are more than likely trying is different shapes. While the wood might be the same, each company has their own shapes that they like to use.

For wood recommendations though:

South Central makes some nice boards. A bit on the heavy side, but damn are they durable.

I'm currently skating a DSM deck and liking that a lot. Doesn't feel like it's going to get soggy anytime soon, and doesn't look it will be razoring out either. Probably going DSM again for my next setup.

PS is hit or miss. Sometimes you get a really great one, other times you get one that gets soggy as fast frosted flakes in milk.

Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: TwisT on June 22, 2018, 09:47:20 AM
track down one of the brands that use drifter
https://www.instagram.com/drifterskateboardmfg/?hl=en

I've been wanting to try a Moonshine deck since they switched to Drifter from Pennswood. How's your experience with their wood been?

Quality I give it an A, but personally, they have never made a shape I like. They make a lot of local/shop decks for the southeast so they're hard to avoid.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on June 22, 2018, 11:07:56 AM
This thread is eye opening. All this time I thought I was trying something ďnewĒ but I was skating all BBS wood. 

Iím looking for something different but still good. Any recommendations?
You might not be trying different wood, but what you are more than likely trying is different shapes. While the wood might be the same, each company has their own shapes that they like to use.

For wood recommendations though:

South Central makes some nice boards. A bit on the heavy side, but damn are they durable.

I'm currently skating a DSM deck and liking that a lot. Doesn't feel like it's going to get soggy anytime soon, and doesn't look it will be razoring out either. Probably going DSM again for my next setup.

PS is hit or miss. Sometimes you get a really great one, other times you get one that gets soggy as fast frosted flakes in milk.

This is about right....it depends on what your range is...if you can skate a heavier board ie. mainly skate transition, chapman is good too....

On the lighter side....PS or DSM....BBS is the truth though....it's like Indy....DSM is venture.... PS is thunder....SC is Ace....
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: bumpnrun on June 22, 2018, 12:57:06 PM
BBS is more hit and miss for me compared to PS. The variation in an 8.06" within BBS is much greater than the variation of an 8" within PS
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Paco Supreme on June 22, 2018, 08:52:22 PM
Not that anyone would notice but i see Pocket Pistols is direct through Prime now
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: shit_for_brains on July 01, 2018, 01:10:28 PM
How can you tell which Toy Machine boards are made where?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on July 01, 2018, 01:24:13 PM
I think the pro models are PS with the serial numbers....some logo are Watson with made in USA sticker...price point are china. 
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: shit_for_brains on July 01, 2018, 05:07:44 PM
I think the pro models are PS with the serial numbers....some logo are Watson with made in USA sticker...price point are china.

Hey thank you
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on July 02, 2018, 08:15:07 AM
I wish the logo boards were all PS....those are the ones you want.....
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: shit_for_brains on July 02, 2018, 11:17:59 AM
I thought I saw somewhere that they were using bbs for some stuff now, but I guess I was wrong. The last PS board I had was a concave nightmare, but now I'm riding a Wade D board and it's so flat I can't flip it at all.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: TwisT on July 02, 2018, 01:49:42 PM
I thought I saw somewhere that they were using bbs for some stuff now, but I guess I was wrong. The last PS board I had was a concave nightmare, but now I'm riding a Wade D Primitive board and it's so flat I can't flip it at all.

you got a DBZ board? what's the nose to tail ratio like? Similar?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on July 02, 2018, 03:53:31 PM
Yeah....I just was chatting with someone who had a primitive board too and he wasn't stoked... Felt dead...
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: shit_for_brains on July 02, 2018, 04:08:10 PM
I thought I saw somewhere that they were using bbs for some stuff now, but I guess I was wrong. The last PS board I had was a concave nightmare, but now I'm riding a Wade D Primitive board and it's so flat I can't flip it at all.

you got a DBZ board? what's the nose to tail ratio like? Similar?

No I didn't get a goddamn dragon ball z board. The owl one.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: TwisT on July 03, 2018, 07:31:56 AM
Yeah....I just was chatting with someone who had a primitive board too and he wasn't stoked... Felt dead...

Thats what my skateshop buddy said probably 2 years ago. But kids still buy them so they still carry them. Some local rapper came through and bought 4 or 5 2Pac completes for him and his crew. Maybe there early runs weren't BBS
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: shit_for_brains on July 03, 2018, 07:45:24 AM
The concave is my only issue with it. Nose and tail are shaped nicely and the dimensions hit me in all the right places. I think these flatter boards are for people with a lighter touch than I have.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: micky682 on July 03, 2018, 08:38:49 AM
Numbers made their own concave, itís called M43 mold. Itís BBS wood too. Definitely not flat like say Baker.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on July 03, 2018, 09:34:12 AM
The concave is my only issue with it. Nose and tail are shaped nicely and the dimensions hit me in all the right places. I think these flatter boards are for people with a lighter touch than I have.

Yeah....I need help too....just sized up to an 8.25 and its nice having a bit more concave.

You know that's pretty much a drake collabo eh?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: SneakySecrets on July 03, 2018, 03:17:54 PM
Anyone skated a Pennswood that they would recommend?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: shit_for_brains on July 03, 2018, 03:25:49 PM
The concave is my only issue with it. Nose and tail are shaped nicely and the dimensions hit me in all the right places. I think these flatter boards are for people with a lighter touch than I have.

Yeah....I need help too....just sized up to an 8.25 and its nice having a bit more concave.

You know that's pretty much a drake collabo eh?

You know Wade Desarmo is sick as fuck and he deserves all the royalties he can get since he got off DGK's way way way stupider bullshit eh? You know supporting the skaters themselves is the best way to approach it eh?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on July 03, 2018, 03:42:31 PM
Who.....
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: pointandclick on July 03, 2018, 04:22:59 PM
Anyone skated a Pennswood that they would recommend?
ive skated scumco deepdish and silver spoon, would fully recommend. wouldnt touch the kiddie pool concave though.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: nosneb on July 03, 2018, 06:39:52 PM
Is the kiddie pool concave flat? I cant find any pictures anywhere
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: pointandclick on July 03, 2018, 08:24:14 PM
Is the kiddie pool concave flat? I cant find any pictures anywhere
very flat every way, then to silver spoon being just mellower than a dlx concave, and deep dish being steep steep.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Clock3rs on July 04, 2018, 04:11:11 AM
Bought a PS Stix board once again, full of joy to have a nice shaped square board contrary to the baker deck I rode before.

it cracked after 2 hours of skating flat.


iam 6,1 ft long and 176 lb

fuck this shit

Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: SneakySecrets on July 04, 2018, 07:36:42 AM
Bought a PS Stix board once again, full of joy to have a nice shaped square board contrary to the baker deck I rode before.

it cracked after 2 hours of skating flat.


iam 6,1 ft long and 176 lb

fuck this shit

That sucks.  I had a brand new welcome board and let my buddy ride it because he didnít have a board at the time and snapped it in like 30 min.  Ridiculous.  I am currently skating a wknd board, another ps stix and am loving it.  Iím pretty light-footed though.

I am going to have to try the deep dish board.  Love lots of concave; itís like training wheels for flip tricks. ;)
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on July 04, 2018, 08:10:55 AM
I thought wknd had switched.....
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: heritage on July 04, 2018, 11:49:16 AM
Bought a PS Stix board once again, full of joy to have a nice shaped square board contrary to the baker deck I rode before.

it cracked after 2 hours of skating flat.iam 6,1 ft long and 176 lb

fuck this shit

Where did it crack? What trick were you doing? I am so torn on PS boards at the moment. I stayed away for at least a year, but the Quasi I'm on has been great. Disclaimer: it's only been a week. Ironically enough, the length on this 8' is longer than the 8.125 and the nose/tail are also longer. Point being, PS shapes and dimensions are very strange.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: bumpnrun on July 04, 2018, 02:43:23 PM
PS stix is my jam but the past 2 I've ridden are from 2016. Can't say anything about the current state of the wood. Surprised to hear so much bad feedback.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: nosneb on July 04, 2018, 07:29:47 PM
Psstix is always a hit or amiss for me. Suck that have to step on 3 of the same graphic to find the right shape. The concaves are all fucked. When I do find the right one they are sick and really enjoyable. Just canít buy any psstix board online
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Clock3rs on July 05, 2018, 12:48:06 AM
Bought a PS Stix board once again, full of joy to have a nice shaped square board contrary to the baker deck I rode before.

it cracked after 2 hours of skating flat.iam 6,1 ft long and 176 lb

fuck this shit

Where did it crack? What trick were you doing? I am so torn on PS boards at the moment. I stayed away for at least a year, but the Quasi I'm on has been great. Disclaimer: it's only been a week. Ironically enough, the length on this 8' is longer than the 8.125 and the nose/tail are also longer. Point being, PS shapes and dimensions are very strange.

tail, kickflip. but I was putting full effort in doing a good one. In addition - I had new shoes and zero feeling, so I may blame it on this one. I just love the shape and I will give PS stix one last shot.

gonna get a quasi next. hope this one will be fine. I'd love to ride a baker steep shape, but my local dealer doesn't stock any, so it's kind of not an option at all right now.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Italianshredder96 on July 05, 2018, 01:06:07 AM
Bought a PS Stix board once again, full of joy to have a nice shaped square board contrary to the baker deck I rode before.

it cracked after 2 hours of skating flat.iam 6,1 ft long and 176 lb

fuck this shit

Where did it crack? What trick were you doing? I am so torn on PS boards at the moment. I stayed away for at least a year, but the Quasi I'm on has been great. Disclaimer: it's only been a week. Ironically enough, the length on this 8' is longer than the 8.125 and the nose/tail are also longer. Point being, PS shapes and dimensions are very strange.

Couldn't agree more, my current toy machine is really really strange. It's labeled as an 8.375, but tapers to the tail to 8.125...actually feels like an 8.25. The strangest thing is the length labeled as 32.75 (measured 32.25) with a 14.25 wb...too long for this wb, way too unpropertied. The worst is that mush out in like three weeks but keep skating until it was literally no pop left, like 2 months.

Next and for a long time back to dlx wood, way more durable and the full se are kinda perfect.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: TheVisitor on July 05, 2018, 02:04:44 AM
Haven't checked in a while but how is Crail wood now? I heard certain models are being pressed in North America? Is there way to identify the NA pressed Crail boards? Thanks.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: SneakySecrets on July 05, 2018, 10:48:01 AM
I thought wknd had switched.....

Canít speak for every board they make, but mine definitely has the little ps stix number on it.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: heritage on July 05, 2018, 11:27:19 AM
Update for the first page of this thread:

All of the new Element boards are stamped BUILT BY BBS on the top ply. Every single one I saw at the shop this weekend. Wall Writer series, Elna Series, and Natures Way series.

That's a pretty big deal IMO if they are moving all their production away from PS.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: baustin on July 05, 2018, 11:47:36 AM
Haven't checked in a while but how is Crail wood now? I heard certain models are being pressed in North America? Is there way to identify the NA pressed Crail boards? Thanks.

I don't think they're pressing boards in NA. I believe they just started stamping the tops with something along the lines of "made with North American maple", but that doesn't necessarily mean they're not still made in China. I'm also pretty sure even before this supposed switch to new wood the boards were already made of NA wood, just not stamped denoting it. If they truly stepped up quality and started using boards manufactured in NA, they'd probably tell us wouldn't they (e.g. mfg in US/Mexico with North American Maple)? Maybe I'm just being cynical, but I feel like the "new wood" is either marginally better or the same exact wood as before with a new stamp on top to make us think the boards are better. Can anyone confirm or deny?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: micky682 on July 05, 2018, 03:01:41 PM
Haven't checked in a while but how is Crail wood now? I heard certain models are being pressed in North America? Is there way to identify the NA pressed Crail boards? Thanks.

I don't think they're pressing boards in NA. I believe they just started stamping the tops with something along the lines of "made with North American maple", but that doesn't necessarily mean they're not still made in China. I'm also pretty sure even before this supposed switch to new wood the boards were already made of NA wood, just not stamped denoting it. If they truly stepped up quality and started using boards manufactured in NA, they'd probably tell us wouldn't they (e.g. mfg in US/Mexico with North American Maple)? Maybe I'm just being cynical, but I feel like the "new wood" is either marginally better or the same exact wood as before with a new stamp on top to make us think the boards are better. Can anyone confirm or deny?
Crail probably also has or had the money to manufacture their boards through BBS or PS stix, but nah.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: BMCsteve on July 05, 2018, 03:16:57 PM
The new crail boards are made in china but not by DSM.  That's all I know. 

That being said, they are actually really strong.  I know this because I tried to focus my new Girl board twice yesterday and failed both times haha
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on July 05, 2018, 04:36:07 PM
Yeah the consensus is the boards seem better but still made in parts unknown.....crazy about element something must be up w. PS as lots of people have been switching.....the only company I'd bank on PS is welcome.....
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Smartass on July 05, 2018, 04:55:55 PM
Update for the first page of this thread:

All of the new Element boards are stamped BUILT BY BBS on the top ply. Every single one I saw at the shop this weekend. Wall Writer series, Elna Series, and Natures Way series.

That's a pretty big deal IMO if they are moving all their production away from PS.

Updated
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: FrozenIndustries on July 06, 2018, 08:15:47 AM
The latest drop from Habitat is all BBS, and there's no Daryl board  :)

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0877/6596/products/origin_low_res_6c3f88d9-bfde-409e-9d2e-fe6a48998d17_1024x1024.jpg


What is the "about this skateboard" graphic referring to?

I just bought the Selego re-issue hoping for BBS and it's a PS Stix.

As much as I wanted one of those Exposition reissue, the fact they were PS Stix kept me away.

Regarding that posted graphic above, it was originally designed for PS boards but they are just using it generically for all their releases.

Just got the O'Connor Exposition and while it is a PS, what is interesting is that it is actually true to size.

With two exceptions (both BBS) I've skated nothing but PS for the past couple of years, and every single one has been about 1/8" narrower than the listed size when measured over the front truck. This one is true to size though, which kind of makes me wonder if some of the negative feedback about the way they measure has gotten back to them.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: bumpnrun on July 06, 2018, 11:52:46 AM
That Element thing is crazy. Going away from PS is a big deal considering the relationship with Schmitt since the beginning.

Schmitt stix
to
New Deal
to sister companies Underworld Element and Mad Circle
to killing all companies and leaving only Element

You can clearly see the made by BBS in the photo

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Element_Section_Black_Deck/descpage-ELSB7DK.html
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: shit_for_brains on July 06, 2018, 12:05:08 PM
There were only a few PS Elements at the shop today. The others were BBS which I'm stoked on because as heritage and I have been discussing, Element is not as bad as it's made out to be.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: SneakySecrets on July 06, 2018, 02:07:49 PM
The latest drop from Habitat is all BBS, and there's no Daryl board  :)

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0877/6596/products/origin_low_res_6c3f88d9-bfde-409e-9d2e-fe6a48998d17_1024x1024.jpg


What is the "about this skateboard" graphic referring to?

I just bought the Selego re-issue hoping for BBS and it's a PS Stix.

As much as I wanted one of those Exposition reissue, the fact they were PS Stix kept me away.

Regarding that posted graphic above, it was originally designed for PS boards but they are just using it generically for all their releases.

Just got the O'Connor Exposition and while it is a PS, what is interesting is that it is actually true to size.

With two exceptions (both BBS) I've skated nothing but PS for the past couple of years, and every single one has been about 1/8" narrower than the listed size when measured over the front truck. This one is true to size though, which kind of makes me wonder if some of the negative feedback about the way they measure has gotten back to them.

Ben Degros mentions in a video how ps insists on measuring decks by the curvature of the concave instead of straight across.  I can see why that would be the preferable way to measure for those involved in making decks, but it means that everyone else has to convert the measurement over.

I like ps but just measure straight across for fucks sake.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on July 06, 2018, 02:30:24 PM
I have thunder 148's and keep buying 8.25 BBS boards and wondering if I could skate an 8.125 because there's still a bit of space.....straight across makes sense because the main reason you want the size is to fit your trucks....

The element stuff I've seen, the shapes seem a bit more potato shaped....rounder than the usual PS stuff...though element had more variety than the standard PS stuff which was usually squarish...

Bummer.....I know some people have had bad PS stuff lately but overall Paul Schmitt has made some of the best boards period....if we have one woodshop pressing 80% of the market......

Hey....who owns BBS/Gen?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: heritage on July 06, 2018, 02:45:04 PM
J soy - yes you definitely can. I skate 149s on decks 8 thru 8.38. My sweet spot is 149 on 8.125 decks.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on July 06, 2018, 03:24:50 PM
If I see that nut from up top......it's on you bro....you think it have this many posts in the truck thread because I'm a perfectly sane person? 
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: spanyard on July 06, 2018, 03:35:04 PM
One setup I got is a krooked birds slick 8.06 with149 forged hollows, no noticably huge stick out from up above.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: heritage on July 06, 2018, 04:27:54 PM
If I see that nut from up top......it's on you bro....you think it have this many posts in the truck thread because I'm a perfectly sane person?

 ;D That's a good point!

I only really see the nut on 8' boards. Let me see if I can snap some pics for you tonight. I just set up an 8.125 Magenta with Thunder 149. I'll PM you a couple different angles.

@bumpnrun - I didn't even think about it that way, but you're absolutely right. Paul has been a part of that company in some iteration for a really long time. I know what you mean about the potato shapes, IMO they used to look really bizarre. And I never understood the 6 inch tails on 8.25 and 8.38 boards. The new BBS stuff looks killer and I'm going to try one at some point. I just have a stack of other boards to get through. Like SFB was saying, Element actually has some really cool stuff going on. Their team is ridiculous, they hook up some great dudes (Levi, Tim Tim), and their art direction is solid.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: ballintoohard on July 07, 2018, 03:17:07 PM
Whoever Sour uses is garbage. The bottom ply is chipping and delamm'ing after 2 sessions. Also, it seems super thin and prone to razor'ing.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: nosneb on July 07, 2018, 06:19:45 PM
On Sours description the wood is pressed in Spain.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on July 07, 2018, 11:23:02 PM
In NA it was BBS....
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Krooked antihero on July 08, 2018, 01:30:11 AM
On Sours description the wood is pressed in Spain.
JART wood.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: ballintoohard on July 08, 2018, 10:11:28 AM
Honestly the worst deck I've ever had aside from one of the original Lib Techs in the late 90's.

What companies have similar shapes to Polar? I've liked all my Polars, but get bored of riding the same thing over and over and over.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: shit_for_brains on July 08, 2018, 01:16:13 PM
Honestly the worst deck I've ever had aside from one of the original Lib Techs in the late 90's.

What companies have similar shapes to Polar? I've liked all my Polars, but get bored of riding the same thing over and over and over.

Like their shaped boards? I think those are unique to Polar. I'm riding a popsicle Polar board right now and it's just like every other popsicle from bbs/generator.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: ballintoohard on July 08, 2018, 02:02:12 PM
popsicle. They seem to have more rounded/slightly bigger noses and shorter wheelbases, especially compared to some of the DLX boards of the same dimensions.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: shit_for_brains on July 08, 2018, 02:51:11 PM
They definitely have shorter wheelbases, which is what first drew me to them, but DLX has started making shapes that are comparable. They started making lengths around 32" and below and the shorter wheelbases as well. The FA/Hockey 8.25 has a big fat nose and tail and short WB, but the concave can be a little much. Whenever I venture out and try something else, and it doesn't IMMEDIATELY work out, I go right back to a DLX or Polar because I know that's my shit.

Of course I'm talking mostly about the 8.25 shapes and a couple of 8.5
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Clock3rs on July 08, 2018, 11:30:14 PM
They definitely have shorter wheelbases, which is what first drew me to them, but DLX has started making shapes that are comparable. They started making lengths around 32" and below and the shorter wheelbases as well. The FA/Hockey 8.25 has a big fat nose and tail and short WB, but the concave can be a little much. Whenever I venture out and try something else, and it doesn't IMMEDIATELY work out, I go right back to a DLX or Polar because I know that's my shit.

Of course I'm talking mostly about the 8.25 shapes and a couple of 8.5

the 8.5 all have a wb of 14,5, so it is not really short. Maybe the wb of the 8.25 shapes is different.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: shit_for_brains on July 09, 2018, 12:24:18 AM
They definitely have shorter wheelbases, which is what first drew me to them, but DLX has started making shapes that are comparable. They started making lengths around 32" and below and the shorter wheelbases as well. The FA/Hockey 8.25 has a big fat nose and tail and short WB, but the concave can be a little much. Whenever I venture out and try something else, and it doesn't IMMEDIATELY work out, I go right back to a DLX or Polar because I know that's my shit.

Of course I'm talking mostly about the 8.25 shapes and a couple of 8.5

the 8.5 all have a wb of 14,5, so it is not really short. Maybe the wb of the 8.25 shapes is different.

8.25 is 14.25 which is shorter than average
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Roisto on July 09, 2018, 01:24:03 AM
They definitely have shorter wheelbases, which is what first drew me to them, but DLX has started making shapes that are comparable. They started making lengths around 32" and below and the shorter wheelbases as well. The FA/Hockey 8.25 has a big fat nose and tail and short WB, but the concave can be a little much. Whenever I venture out and try something else, and it doesn't IMMEDIATELY work out, I go right back to a DLX or Polar because I know that's my shit.

Of course I'm talking mostly about the 8.25 shapes and a couple of 8.5

the 8.5 all have a wb of 14,5, so it is not really short. Maybe the wb of the 8.25 shapes is different.

8.25 is 14.25 which is shorter than average

I'd say that 14.25" wheelbase is the average for 8.25" decks, certainly not shorter than average. It's pretty hard to come by with 8.25" decks with longer wheelbases. Main reason why I switched to 8.38" and 8.5" myself.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: baustin on July 09, 2018, 08:40:11 AM
Anyone have experience with Scumco's silver spoon concave? How does it compare to their deep dish and kiddie pool concaves? I'm wanting to try a Pennswood Scumco board but I have to order online since I'm far from any shop that carries them. I dislike flat boards and tapered/pointy kicks, much prefer a lot of concave and fuller kicks. Am I gonna like it/any pointers on other boards that meet that criteria?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: pointandclick on July 09, 2018, 08:48:41 AM
Anyone have experience with Scumco's silver spoon concave? How does it compare to their deep dish and kiddie pool concaves? I'm wanting to try a Pennswood Scumco board but I have to order online since I'm far from any shop that carries them. I dislike flat boards and tapered/pointy kicks, much prefer a lot of concave and fuller kicks. Am I gonna like it/any pointers on other boards that meet that criteria?
silver spoon is like a slightly mellower in the middle of your foot dlx concave. nose and tail are still there, but i would say go for the deep dish, its my favorite. kiddie pool is tooooo flat (including nose and tail) for me.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Krooked antihero on July 09, 2018, 09:47:07 AM
They definitely have shorter wheelbases, which is what first drew me to them, but DLX has started making shapes that are comparable. They started making lengths around 32" and below and the shorter wheelbases as well. The FA/Hockey 8.25 has a big fat nose and tail and short WB, but the concave can be a little much. Whenever I venture out and try something else, and it doesn't IMMEDIATELY work out, I go right back to a DLX or Polar because I know that's my shit.

Of course I'm talking mostly about the 8.25 shapes and a couple of 8.5

the 8.5 all have a wb of 14,5, so it is not really short. Maybe the wb of the 8.25 shapes is different.

8.25 is 14.25 which is shorter than average

I'd say that 14.25" wheelbase is the average for 8.25" decks, certainly not shorter than average. It's pretty hard to come by with 8.25" decks with longer wheelbases. Main reason why I switched to 8.38" and 8.5" myself.
Most antihero 8.25Ē atleast use to have 14.38Ē wb that I canít stand anymore, I thought it was DLX regular wb on 14 1/4Ē? If they are using 14.25wb nowadays that is awesome😊
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: nosneb on July 09, 2018, 10:25:49 AM
14 1/4 vs 14.25 vs 14 and a quarter which is more bestest?!?!?

My sweet spot usually is 14.5 or 14.25ish
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: youngboyNBD on July 09, 2018, 10:26:27 AM
They definitely have shorter wheelbases, which is what first drew me to them, but DLX has started making shapes that are comparable. They started making lengths around 32" and below and the shorter wheelbases as well. The FA/Hockey 8.25 has a big fat nose and tail and short WB, but the concave can be a little much. Whenever I venture out and try something else, and it doesn't IMMEDIATELY work out, I go right back to a DLX or Polar because I know that's my shit.

Of course I'm talking mostly about the 8.25 shapes and a couple of 8.5

the 8.5 all have a wb of 14,5, so it is not really short. Maybe the wb of the 8.25 shapes is different.

8.25 is 14.25 which is shorter than average

I'd say that 14.25" wheelbase is the average for 8.25" decks, certainly not shorter than average. It's pretty hard to come by with 8.25" decks with longer wheelbases. Main reason why I switched to 8.38" and 8.5" myself.
Most antihero 8.25Ē atleast use to have 14.38Ē wb that I canít stand anymore, I thought it was DLX regular wb on 14 1/4Ē? If they are using 14.25wb nowadays that is awesome😊

AH (and Real cause I just bought one) 8.25's WB is def 14.38''
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: ungzilla on July 09, 2018, 10:33:54 AM
maybe this has already been mentioned but it looks like at least some scumco boards are being done by other manufacturers (PS Stix & Control), the majority look to still be Pennswood though.

http://www.scumcoandsons.com/merch/abair-freestyle-deck
http://www.scumcoandsons.com/merch/evolution-deck
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: nopes on July 09, 2018, 11:24:29 AM
what companies are making decks around 8.5 with smaller wbs? like 14.25 and under?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: micky682 on July 09, 2018, 11:27:35 AM
what companies are making decks around 8.5 with smaller wbs? like 14.25 and under?
Baker B16 and Chocolate Skiduls shape
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: baustin on July 09, 2018, 11:30:46 AM
maybe this has already been mentioned but it looks like at least some scumco boards are being done by other manufacturers (PS Stix & Control), the majority look to still be Pennswood though.

http://www.scumcoandsons.com/merch/abair-freestyle-deck
http://www.scumcoandsons.com/merch/evolution-deck

Yeah, and Philly's board was PS Stix. Not sure why they do that, maybe Pennswood can't do certain stuff with graphics. I remember Scumco posting something like they used 11 different shades of yellow on Philly's debut pro model
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Roisto on July 09, 2018, 12:24:22 PM
what companies are making decks around 8.5 with smaller wbs? like 14.25 and under?

Antihero blue eagle is 14.25Ē. I had a black label 8.5Ē also which had a 14.25Ē wheelbase
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: ballintoohard on July 09, 2018, 01:35:02 PM
My last Polar (where do we go from here? graphic) was 8.5x14.3. Loved that thing, but wanted to get back into flip tricks and go narrower.

On a Quasi 8.25 and don't love the way it pops.  Feels like the nose and tail are a bit steep.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on July 09, 2018, 05:32:52 PM
I thought the Polar 8.25s were even shorter than 14.25?
My Northern co. is 8.25 x 14.375 but it still feels a tad long
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Paco Supreme on July 09, 2018, 09:18:00 PM
The Polar Herrington i checked is listed at

8.25" X 31.875"
NOSE: 7.125"
WHEEL BASE: 14.125"
TAIL: 6.75"

if it were 32" it might may be 14.25
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on July 09, 2018, 10:01:41 PM
yeah 14.125 was my gut feeling, 8.25 x 14.25 is pretty standard imho
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: tangar on July 09, 2018, 10:19:07 PM
8.5 with 14.25 wheelbase is my favorite right now, Colony, Hockey, DOA, all make them for sure (all different woodshops). Alien might still make one but they do a lot of 8.5 with 14.1.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Krooked antihero on July 10, 2018, 12:24:38 AM
I thought the Polar 8.25s were even shorter than 14.25?
My Northern co. is 8.25 x 14.375 but it still feels a tad long
Polar makes both, 14.125 AND 14.25 on 8.25Ē boards.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on July 10, 2018, 12:38:33 AM
well there you go...
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: ballintoohard on July 10, 2018, 03:59:19 PM
I have no clue why I am not getting on with these PS boards. I got a Quasi 8.25 and the general shape is cool, but it feels like my timing and pop are off on basically everything but no complies. I had a Hockey 8.38 and an FA 8.125 in the past and thought it was just wheelbase er something. Is it possibly just the nose/tail?

I had a Western Edition deck that was PS and didn't have this issue.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: chris. on July 10, 2018, 06:16:35 PM
8.5 with 14.25 wheelbase is my favorite right now, Colony, Hockey, DOA, all make them for sure (all different woodshops). Alien might still make one but they do a lot of 8.5 with 14.1.

The G033 shape from Crail is 8.5 x 14.25 too. Grabbed two decks on a recent sale and I'm very happy with the shape. Now lets just see about the wood...
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Sad Hippo on July 12, 2018, 08:22:32 AM
Anyone have any info on where shortyís is getting their boards pressed?  They just put out a couple of old logo boards in sizes I like. Iím assuming itís the cheapest shit possible, but would like to be proven wrong for nostalgia sake.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on July 12, 2018, 08:39:47 AM
Yeah I was just wondering e same thing....

*edit.....prolly Prime....or Watson.

Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Budgie Lasek on July 12, 2018, 03:30:54 PM
I only ride BBS pressed decks, for the most part, but it sucks that only the biggest brands get any leeway with getting different molds etc. Pretty much any smaller to mid size brand gets the exact same, mellower concave standards. I have a friend who I'd love to support but his boards are just too flat, I need more concave. Picked up another Sk8 Mafia 8.25 today that's perfect. Coincidentally, another brand new BBS pressed deck I grabbed, that was flatter, warped quite noticeably within 1 hour of being in my trunk on a hot day. Never leave your board in your trunk, in case anyone needed to be reminded.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Thomas on July 13, 2018, 02:29:37 AM
Last Krooked and Real boards I skated felt like shit after a week.
Do they have a different factory for Euro boards ?
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: shit_for_brains on July 13, 2018, 06:43:35 AM
Last Krooked and Real boards I skated felt like shit after a week.
Do they have a different factory for Euro boards ?

Probably. Aren't their price point logo boards from China? I wouldn't be surprised if their Euro wood comes from China too since it would reduce shipping costs.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: palelight on July 13, 2018, 01:46:13 PM
Last Krooked and Real boards I skated felt like shit after a week.
Do they have a different factory for Euro boards ?

Probably. Aren't their price point logo boards from China? I wouldn't be surprised if their Euro wood comes from China too since it would reduce shipping costs.

Nah, their North American price points are still made in Mexico BBS. The difference is the cosmetics of the ply's, usually more knotted discoloured wood which is why they have the cheaper full print graphics top and bottom, no stains. I've found them to last the same as normal DLX decks.

Euro decks, no idea.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: ballintoohard on July 13, 2018, 07:41:57 PM
So I got a different 8.25 Quasi, much shallower nose. Squared off shape. Like it a lot, did not like the "Muka One" 8.25 I had enough to where I skated it twice and it's getting donated.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: BALARGUE on July 14, 2018, 03:27:31 AM
Last Krooked and Real boards I skated felt like shit after a week.
Do they have a different factory for Euro boards ?

Probably. Aren't their price point logo boards from China? I wouldn't be surprised if their Euro wood comes from China too since it would reduce shipping costs.

Nah, their North American price points are still made in Mexico BBS. The difference is the cosmetics of the ply's, usually more knotted discoloured wood which is why they have the cheaper full print graphics top and bottom, no stains. I've found them to last the same as normal DLX decks.

Euro decks, no idea.

i'm in France and the price point series i have at the shop are from mexico
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: shit_for_brains on July 14, 2018, 03:33:47 AM
Last Krooked and Real boards I skated felt like shit after a week.
Do they have a different factory for Euro boards ?

Probably. Aren't their price point logo boards from China? I wouldn't be surprised if their Euro wood comes from China too since it would reduce shipping costs.

Nah, their North American price points are still made in Mexico BBS. The difference is the cosmetics of the ply's, usually more knotted discoloured wood which is why they have the cheaper full print graphics top and bottom, no stains. I've found them to last the same as normal DLX decks.

Euro decks, no idea.

i'm in France and the price point series i have at the shop are from mexico

Well I guess I made that shit up
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: TwisT on July 14, 2018, 11:36:02 AM
So in the new Crailtap China short online, they thank EXCEL in the credits. So maybe theyíre arenít switching shops, but just got them to improve the product
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: somedudefromnj on July 14, 2018, 03:41:06 PM
I have no clue why I am not getting on with these PS boards. I got a Quasi 8.25 and the general shape is cool, but it feels like my timing and pop are off on basically everything but no complies. I had a Hockey 8.38 and an FA 8.125 in the past and thought it was just wheelbase er something. Is it possibly just the nose/tail?

I had a Western Edition deck that was PS and didn't have this issue.

same shit happened to me, but only on those decks that feel super solid if that makes sense. Bledsoe boards feel fine to me, but the Quasi can shape and the Al Davis one with his mom on it took some time getting use to
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: nosneb on July 14, 2018, 06:05:04 PM
I had one Quasi that was too stiff and too steep. The soggier flatter ones I enjoyed the most and usually Bledsoe 8.3s are pretty good usually in the middle steepness. I like PSstix boards but dont like the forward feeling due to short tails and longer noses which dlx boards feels center even if you skate the board backwards
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: TwisT on July 15, 2018, 08:56:33 AM
"goodwood" is Prime LA
http://www.skateseason.com/goodwood
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: somedudefromnj on July 15, 2018, 10:33:25 AM
I had one Quasi that was too stiff and too steep. The soggier flatter ones I enjoyed the most and usually Bledsoe 8.3s are pretty good usually in the middle steepness. I like PSstix boards but dont like the forward feeling due to short tails and longer noses which dlx boards feels center even if you skate the board backwards

This. Did the stiff Quasi you had have all raw wood plies? As in no dyed plies
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: nosneb on July 15, 2018, 03:00:35 PM
It was the Quasi "Graphic" deck with the cherries and it was only middle ply that was stained the rest was natural. It was so stiff it would throw me off balance when I did anything besides ollie.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: ballintoohard on July 17, 2018, 12:55:25 PM
I have the current Proto 8.25 deck. Squared tips, stained middle ply. Thing is weird, but super fun to skate.  The nose and tail are a tad short, which is super weird for nollies.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: ballintoohard on July 20, 2018, 09:09:00 AM
Can anyone comment on similarity between the Polar 8.375/8.5 shapes and the Killing Floor or Anti Hero shapes in the same size?  Looking at the Kanfoush decks or a few of the others.
Title: Re: Woodshop Directory 2018 Thread
Post by: Xen on July 20, 2018, 10:24:34 AM
I have the current Proto 8.25 deck. Squared tips, stained middle ply. Thing is weird, but super fun to skate.  The nose and tail are a tad short, which is super weird for nollies.

That shape is my favorite 'full' type [and quasi] shape, been tempted to pick another one up after my current board is toast; I prefer the short tail on it; rode it with thunder 147s and could vault my ollies, super fun.
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Post by: ballintoohard on July 20, 2018, 12:54:28 PM
oddly nollie tricks and no complies have taken time to adjust, but everything else is pretty solid.
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Post by: palelight on July 20, 2018, 01:16:01 PM
Can anyone comment on similarity between the Polar 8.375/8.5 shapes and the Killing Floor or Anti Hero shapes in the same size?  Looking at the Kanfoush decks or a few of the others.

Been a minute since I've had the Polar in 8.3, but I remember it feeling close to DLX specs (same woodshop after all). Maybe a smidge mellower concave on the Polar, AH's can be a bit steep. Biggest difference would be wheelbase. AH's in those widths can have anywhere from 14.5-14.75" wb. Polar's also run a bit shorter overall.

Socal's site has pretty good measuring charts for all their decks to nerd out on.   
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Post by: GardenSkater77 on July 21, 2018, 07:15:03 AM
A prominent skateboard manufacturer contacted my company this week looking for a clear varnish that can go over top of skateboard graphics. I donít believe solvent based coatings can go over top of paint. It makes me wonder what they are trying to do. Sounds like they are trying to make a decent slick deck. Company policy prevents me from helping them look for alternative coatings while testing ours but just in case this company is lurking, any ideas might help them and the next generation of skateboard decks.
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Post by: ungzilla on July 21, 2018, 08:17:17 AM
could you please report to HR
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Post by: radcunt on July 26, 2018, 04:18:01 AM
Blenders 'Heated Wheel' decks are Watson Laminates, as is his G&S reissue. 

From my time with his Heated Wheel decks, they do a sick job.  The stains are amazing.
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Post by: halfsleeper on July 26, 2018, 11:27:30 AM
8.5 with 14.25 wheelbase is my favorite right now, Colony, Hockey, DOA, all make them for sure (all different woodshops).

last three hockey boards (bbs?) i've had just delam/crumble/deteriorate way quicker but i'm so particular about that one shape - 8.5x32, 14.25 wb, full/square nose and tail but not as steep as quasi.

anyone know what shop DOA uses? i might grab that pulp board even though i hate buying decks online.
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Post by: heritage on July 26, 2018, 02:18:38 PM
last three hockey boards (bbs?) i've had just delam/crumble/deteriorate way quicker but i'm so particular about that one shape - 8.5x32, 14.25 wb, full/square nose and tail but not as steep as quasi.

anyone know what shop DOA uses? i might grab that pulp board even though i hate buying decks online.

DOA uses Clutch and they are great. What size are you looking for? DOA is doing a couple shapes/sizes with different dimensions. (wb, length, etc)
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Post by: j....soy..... on July 26, 2018, 02:26:20 PM
Blenders 'Heated Wheel' decks are Watson Laminates, as is his G&S reissue. 

From my time with his Heated Wheel decks, they do a sick job.  The stains are amazing.

Any of the g&s reissues floating around?
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Post by: ballintoohard on July 26, 2018, 02:32:01 PM
8.5 with 14.25 wheelbase is my favorite right now, Colony, Hockey, DOA, all make them for sure (all different woodshops).

last three hockey boards (bbs?) i've had just delam/crumble/deteriorate way quicker but i'm so particular about that one shape - 8.5x32, 14.25 wb, full/square nose and tail but not as steep as quasi.

anyone know what shop DOA uses? i might grab that pulp board even though i hate buying decks online.

Quasi's newest 8.5x32 have that wheelbase and square nose/tail. I noticed my Proto 2 deck was less steep than the other Quasi so I emailed them and asked which decks have this exact same shape.  Catherine, Lux, Proto, and the ++ Crockett decks all do.
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Post by: nosneb on July 26, 2018, 03:42:05 PM
Just got the Catherine the flattest one they have. Short nose and feels flexy. The watermelon one was wayyyyyyy stiff
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Post by: halfsleeper on July 27, 2018, 10:12:14 AM

DOA uses Clutch and they are great. What size are you looking for? DOA is doing a couple shapes/sizes with different dimensions. (wb, length, etc)

i ordered the DOA Pulp online, we'll see how it feels once it gets here. DM'd the dude and it seems like it'll work.
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Post by: halfsleeper on July 27, 2018, 10:13:55 AM

Quasi's newest 8.5x32 have that wheelbase and square nose/tail. I noticed my Proto 2 deck was less steep than the other Quasi so I emailed them and asked which decks have this exact same shape.  Catherine, Lux, Proto, and the ++ Crockett decks all do.

good to know, thank you
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Post by: roba on July 27, 2018, 01:14:57 PM
i liked all the bbs boards (multiple aws 3.0, isle and dlx boards) iíve skated before but this baker iím skating right now feels different and in some ways worse (chipped more easily and razortailed quicker), even though it seems like theyíre made in the same place. i live in europe though so iím wondering if they arenít using some different manufacturer here. is it just me or do they use different wood for europe, like flip or skatemafia?
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Post by: j....soy..... on July 27, 2018, 05:18:18 PM
Ya I think super possible....
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Post by: wompa_stompa on July 27, 2018, 06:17:52 PM
Just got a Tired deck that's PS Stix
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Post by: Kanyes Financial Adviser on July 27, 2018, 09:00:06 PM
Need a good recommendation for a board that's skinny (as in ply thickness,would skate a 6 ply board if I could), square-ish nose and tail, a medium concave and anything from 8.1 - 8.25. Closest I've encountered were mother/early quasi boards but I don't know if I'm tripping but I feel like they've gotten flatter and and a tad thicker over the years. Not prepared to skate a flight board either.
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Post by: j....soy..... on July 27, 2018, 11:21:18 PM
Opposite no?  Early Quasi was ps which tend to be thicker than BBS.....do P2's seem a bit thinner? 
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Post by: radcunt on July 28, 2018, 06:06:49 AM
Blenders 'Heated Wheel' decks are Watson Laminates, as is his G&S reissue. 

From my time with his Heated Wheel decks, they do a sick job.  The stains are amazing.

Any of the g&s reissues floating around?

Nah they sold out immediately
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Post by: left knee cap on July 30, 2018, 06:19:01 PM
anyone have any idea what these shortyís reissues are on? tempted to get one to skate and for the wall but donít wanna end up with cheap wood
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Post by: j....soy..... on July 30, 2018, 06:57:09 PM
Prime or Watson.....so meh.....or....meh.
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Post by: oneOone on July 31, 2018, 04:58:37 AM
i liked all the bbs boards (multiple aws 3.0, isle and dlx boards) iíve skated before but this baker iím skating right now feels different and in some ways worse (chipped more easily and razortailed quicker), even though it seems like theyíre made in the same place. i live in europe though so iím wondering if they arenít using some different manufacturer here. is it just me or do they use different wood for europe, like flip or skatemafia?

For Baker I doubt it as they are pretty pricey in Europe (70EUR), maybe just a Monday board :)
I recently saw a Baker in the wild here and it seemed nothing changed in the last years (pointy shape).
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Post by: planman on July 31, 2018, 11:11:56 PM
Aside from DLX brands, who else uses the same 8.5 shape as Anti-Hero? I cracked my Daan board but I really liked how flat it felt and it feels really weird switching to my 8.5 Polar backup board, which feels pretty steep compared to the AH.

Can anyone comment on similarity between the Polar 8.375/8.5 shapes and the Killing Floor or Anti Hero shapes in the same size?  Looking at the Kanfoush decks or a few of the others.

Been a minute since I've had the Polar in 8.3, but I remember it feeling close to DLX specs (same woodshop after all). Maybe a smidge mellower concave on the Polar, AH's can be a bit steep. Biggest difference would be wheelbase. AH's in those widths can have anywhere from 14.5-14.75" wb. Polar's also run a bit shorter overall.

Socal's site has pretty good measuring charts for all their decks to nerd out on.   
I've had two Polar 8.375s and liked them a lot but havent skated a TKF or AH board in that size. As I said above, AH had mellower concave and looked/felt wider than an 8.5, more like an 8.6. Polar also had a longer tail, methinks. I might be able to take some side by side pics of each board, if you like.
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Post by: Budgie Lasek on August 01, 2018, 08:14:04 AM
I just noticed that an 8.375 BBS pressed deck I got has off center concave, meaning, more concave on one side. I'm not sure how that mistake can be made, but I've seen it a few times over the years. I didn't notice it on this deck until I stood on it and I could actually feel the difference under my foot. Then I looked, and sure enough, the concave isn't centered on the deck. Glad it's not one I intended to ride.
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Post by: FrozenIndustries on August 01, 2018, 04:45:14 PM
Iím case anyone is curious, here is the list of all Chapmanís dimensions. They donít list lengths and wheelbases on the site, so I hit them up and they sent me this.

(https://preview.ibb.co/h42WYz/7_AF8_B890_BAF1_44_B0_9_BF3_583_E79615176.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fWSyDz)
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Post by: Juggalo420BlazeIt on August 02, 2018, 07:54:34 AM
Who makes darkstar? IMO they make the best bords
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Post by: TheVisitor on August 02, 2018, 08:49:39 AM
Who makes darkstar? IMO they make the best bords

DSM, so all dwindle brands listed on first page I believe.
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Post by: TwisT on August 02, 2018, 12:10:16 PM
so I  picked up a CityStars board made by unified. According to them they make there boards in house. They also make boards for:
ATM
Sugar
Fortune
Ammo

you know, brands you guys all skate.
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Post by: SneakySecrets on August 02, 2018, 12:12:55 PM
so I  picked up a CityStars board made by unified. According to them they make there boards in house. They also make boards for:
ATM
Sugar
Fortune
Ammo

I appreciate the irony.  Can you inform on how the board skates?  Always interested in different deck brands.

you know, brands you guys all skate.
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Post by: stevethuro on August 02, 2018, 12:51:00 PM
Control MFG boards are pretty awesome
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Post by: pointandclick on August 02, 2018, 01:53:48 PM
Control MFG boards are pretty awesome
completely disagree.
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Post by: FrenchFriedClownFingers on August 02, 2018, 04:01:36 PM
i don't know if it's already updated but the sticker on my heroin revenge egg says made in mexico
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Post by: nosneb on August 02, 2018, 05:30:43 PM
pretty sure they are Gen/BB wood
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Post by: BALARGUE on August 03, 2018, 02:15:08 AM
Control MFG boards are pretty awesome

i confirm
they make our boards and i'm definitely happy with the quality
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Post by: j....soy..... on August 03, 2018, 03:23:42 PM
Control MFG boards are pretty awesome

Tracer?  U back? 
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Post by: roba on August 03, 2018, 04:12:06 PM
i liked all the bbs boards (multiple aws 3.0, isle and dlx boards) iíve skated before but this baker iím skating right now feels different and in some ways worse (chipped more easily and razortailed quicker), even though it seems like theyíre made in the same place. i live in europe though so iím wondering if they arenít using some different manufacturer here. is it just me or do they use different wood for europe, like flip or skatemafia?

For Baker I doubt it as they are pretty pricey in Europe (70EUR), maybe just a Monday board :)
I recently saw a Baker in the wild here and it seemed nothing changed in the last years (pointy shape).

that's kind of weird. the baker i had (logo board) was a little cheaper than most other graphics. they had the 8.5 logo cruiser for the same price though and i don't think any other manufacturer has the exact shape for it but all the pro models etc were more expensive. i skated a baker or two before and they looked pretty much the same but the other boards lasted way longer. it's probably just me though
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Post by: TheBoognish on August 12, 2018, 11:15:26 AM
Anyone know who presses the new Shorty's boards ?

Not the Prime Muska ones released a few months back, actual Shorty's boards.
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Post by: nopes on August 18, 2018, 07:56:13 AM
what woodshops are outside north america and china? Where is jart/hlc located?
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Post by: Italianshredder96 on August 18, 2018, 08:04:55 AM
what woodshops are outside north america and china? Where is jart/hlc located?

Jart is in Spain and presses habitat, flip, sovrn and National skateboard co.
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Post by: blo0mz on August 18, 2018, 08:42:51 AM
Does anyone have any actual confirmation about Numbers Edition wood?

The site says "100% North American maple. Pressed in Mexico. M43 mold", whatever that means
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Post by: micky682 on August 18, 2018, 10:21:39 AM
Does anyone have any actual confirmation about Numbers Edition wood?

The site says "100% North American maple. Pressed in Mexico. M43 mold", whatever that means
BBS, really deep concave that flattens out over time. Kinda felt weird for a bareback deck.
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Post by: blo0mz on August 18, 2018, 07:10:45 PM
Does anyone have any actual confirmation about Numbers Edition wood?

The site says "100% North American maple. Pressed in Mexico. M43 mold", whatever that means
BBS, really deep concave that flattens out over time. Kinda felt weird for a bareback deck.

thanks appreciate it! I got the 8 x 31.4375 (/14) rodrigo tx deck and its definitely going to take some getting used to, the nose is realllly square
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Post by: SneakySecrets on August 18, 2018, 07:22:31 PM
According to the list, Evisen boards in NA are out of south centeral.  However, I just got one that is from dsm, despite being sold in North America.  Not earthshaking news, but might be good to update them on the list.
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Post by: Smartass on August 19, 2018, 08:56:51 PM
According to the list, Evisen boards in NA are out of south centeral.  However, I just got one that is from dsm, despite being sold in North America.  Not earthshaking news, but might be good to update them on the list.

Thought I changed that with when I picked up my last Evisen, but looks like I forgot. It's been updated.
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Post by: Beeker on August 20, 2018, 07:04:32 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/TNe5i2Ml.jpg)
if anyone was curious about BLVD.

Can someone clue me in to what this means?
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Post by: pointandclick on August 20, 2018, 10:26:10 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/TNe5i2Ml.jpg)
if anyone was curious about BLVD.

Can someone clue me in to what this means?
just a guess but i think its clutch distro.
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Post by: j....soy..... on August 20, 2018, 11:00:04 PM
Ya I bet if you msg' dthem they'd tell ya......
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Post by: neil. on August 27, 2018, 06:44:12 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/TNe5i2Ml.jpg)
if anyone was curious about BLVD.

Can someone clue me in to what this means?
just a guess but i think its clutch distro.

Yeah clutch distro.

P is the shape and 1 is the size code
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Post by: Diocletian on September 11, 2018, 08:45:27 AM
Anyone here have any feedback on Chapman wood? Also, does anyone know who SoCal skate shop sources their blanks from?
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Post by: Xen on September 11, 2018, 10:28:03 AM
Anyone here have any feedback on Chapman wood? Also, does anyone know who SoCal skate shop sources their blanks from?

Socal are Made in Mexico