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Title: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 09, 2018, 09:33:12 AM
This is from an interview with Jason Jessee in Iron Horse magazine January 1995

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zcOrnLXE8so/TkDBVdhMCpI/AAAAAAAAIxg/j21xVlU1LLU/s1600/L1100604.jpg)

The full interview is just as hectic on everypage:

https://joeking-speedshop.blogspot.com/2011/08/jason-jesses-great-interview-iron-horse.html

And you all know Indy still backs him heavy

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Do you know about the skate nazis?

Anyone from NHS care to comment?

I saw someone post on here that Peanut Brown pushed him off the deck of a vert ramp, and I heard from others that he just straight up kicked his ass.  I'm hoping that it was a combination of the two.

this happened at a vert contest basically in front of the entire industry

peanut brown is my og and personally told me what happened:

on the deck of the vert ramp during the contest jason jessee for no reason was being a dick to blaize blouin (rip). peanut told jason to lay off blaize. jason called peanut the n word (he said "shut up n***"). peanut cold knocked jason jessee out with one punch.

the room was in shock. jason jessee never said no shit like that to peanut ever again.


Jason Jessee is still a nazi in 2018

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(https://i.imgur.com/FBXdUYZ.png)

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oh damn they deleted the hard luck thread where this was all first posted too. shady.
what? seriously?

yeah i was curious because they deleted my message in this thread where i quoted that post in the thread. i then found another thread that linked back to it and its gone.

For the record, Luke, Isaac, Neal, and I have deleted no posts and I'm really bothered that it's happening.

the Slap mod is the Schmitty that's best friends with Jessee.

schmitty. Honestly, a mod I can't remember being online in maybe years. But yeah, I don't have a problem saying who deleted that stuff. The mods I mentioned, and i, have been talking. We're not sure how to address it as the deleted threads are coming from actual admin from HS.

kinda embarrassed by indy's iron cross too

I've ridden Indy's for a decade or two.  Damn.  Never really thought about the cross.  I've had shirts and stuff. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Truck_Company

Quote
The iconic logo for the trucks was based on the Iron Cross according to legendary skateboard illustrator Jim Phillips, who created the design. It has remained the Independent logo since the company's inception.

Jim Phillips says in his 2007 book "The Art of Jim Phillips":

"...I began toying with the iron, or Maltese cross which was long dead as the old 60s surfer's cross, and even longer dead as the biker's cross. I used a beam compass to make it into a round shape, which looked completely different than the old square iron crosses... I took my idea into the NHS office the next morning and it went on the wall as usual. Jay and Rich each stared at it for a while, and they both thought that it looked a little too "Nazi". My sketches were rejected and I was sent back to the drawing board. I went back to my studio determined to use it, knowing it was the one. I searched my archives and scrap file for some justification for using the symbol. I found a firefighter's logo, symbols on the knights and Columbus sails. Then in my scrap file, under the letter P, I found a Time magazine cover of Pope John Paul from the June 18,1979 edition. It was amazing; there was a cross on his vestments almost the way I designed mine. I marched into the office the next morning with the magazine to show what I thought was proof of acceptability. They both looked at each other and said, 'Well, if the Pope has it, it must be okay!' That was that, and the Independent cross was born."

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(http://socalskateshop.com/images/products/large_77572_IndependenTrucks_Jason__jessee_SS_orng_back_sum17.jpg)
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UPDATE:

Jason Jessee apologizes and NHS speaks out against bigotry and nazism.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi0Ye9rgrJG/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi0Ye9rgrJG/)

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi0VT4-HziQ/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi0VT4-HziQ/)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BjIyfQUgN-j/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BjIyfQUgN-j/)

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BREAKING NEWS:


Welp, he's "indefinitely suspended" from Cons and Santa Cruz.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/59q343/skateboarding-icon-jason-jessee-is-under-fire-for-use-of-swastikas-and-racist-remarks


what does "suspended" mean? they keep selling his boards but don't pay him?

jason jessee of santa cruz and cons

https://youtu.be/VZfRX6IMPCA (https://youtu.be/VZfRX6IMPCA)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: BMCsteve on May 09, 2018, 09:34:16 AM
oh cool, this has never been discussed before on Slap
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 09, 2018, 10:00:05 AM
among many others... http://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=74461.0 (http://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=74461.0)

good post. i noticed nobody mentioned jay adams. him and jason jessee were best buddies. along with andy roy and birdo. i think they are all trash cans.

did you see this skate nazi deck jason jessee made for jay adams?

(https://usatbnqt.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/0005-4ca7ffb1-4a82762f-a80e-02e15480.jpg)

powell peralta and santa cruz back a bunch of cats down with white power shit

Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: drunkenshredder on May 09, 2018, 10:03:48 AM
lets hope no one on here ever does anything stupid or says stupid ass shit...the real question is when you see him will you say something or will you be too busy waiting for a signature? too many people talk and not act. skateboarding is soft
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 09, 2018, 10:06:26 AM
lets hope no one on here ever does anything stupid or says stupid ass shit...the real question is when you see him will you say something or will you be too busy waiting for a signature? too many people talk and not act. skateboarding is soft

i would love to see jason jessee and ask him about all of this on camera
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: drunkenshredder on May 09, 2018, 10:08:24 AM
lets hope no one on here ever does anything stupid or says stupid ass shit...the real question is when you see him will you say something or will you be too busy waiting for a signature? too many people talk and not act. skateboarding is soft

i would love to see jason jessee and ask him about all of this on camera

sounds like a vice piece. haha should get birdo and ole roy involved..bring back Celebrity dethmatch
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: PeggyHillsShittySpanish on May 09, 2018, 10:14:33 AM
Jason Jessee sucks.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: jorge on May 09, 2018, 10:15:28 AM
I've always wondered what gives this piece of shit "legend" status. I don't remember him ever doing anything that impressive, and his "quirkiness" everybody claims makes him so great is just him being a trashy SC biker nazi. Anybody who's ever spent time in Santa Cruz knows those are literally the trashiest people on earth.

And yeah, its old news that he's a nazi, but why is he still around? Why is converse and Santa Cruz giving this nazi money and endorsing him as a person?

Anybody who claims "skateboarding doesn't care about your identity! As long as you skate, we're all friends!" needs to realize shit ain't as simple as we wish it were as long as "icons" like him are celebrated. When nazis are celebrated, I don't feel like a welcome part of the community, and I'm sure I'm not alone.

yeah i saw him in the new converse video. dude is super sketchy and apparently everyone knows it. i can't really back any of his sponsors.

peanut brown is from my hometown so i heard all this back in the 80s and jason jessee is still this way, and still milking skateboarding.
I saw someone post on here that Peanut Brown pushed him off the deck of a vert ramp, and I heard from others that he just straight up kicked his ass.  I'm hoping that it was a combination of the two.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Surf-goth on May 09, 2018, 10:18:49 AM
I can't stand that two hat shit his skateboarding does nothing for me and now I've found a new reason to dislike him. Are there any black dudes on hardluck?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 09, 2018, 10:19:55 AM
Is that deck real?  That's crazy.  I find it strange about Powell being down with the white power back in the day, since three of their biggest pros were TG, Ray Barbee, and Cab, plus they pushed the, "Rubber boys" hard. 

I will admit I don't know shit about the southern California white power scene.  Thankfully.

the board is real and there are still a number of them floating around between collectors

powell peralta put a spade on steve steadhams first pro model against his wishes. i heard it was craig stecyk's idea, which wouldn't suprise me because he was spray painting swastikas everywhere in the 70s.

just connect the dots and half the early skate industry is involved in it
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: se7en3two on May 09, 2018, 10:26:43 AM
Jason Jessee sucks.

As are the companies that back this turd.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: IHOP on May 09, 2018, 10:34:22 AM
I can't stand that two hat shit his skateboarding does nothing for me and now I've found a new reason to dislike him. Are there any black dudes on hardluck?

sammy baca has a pro model, and sage and louie come to mind right away.  Like half the team are poc

https://www.hardluckmfg.com/pages/team
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 09, 2018, 10:37:11 AM
the notion that POC's being affiliated with scum like this someone how makes them not racist is laughable.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: offkilter on May 09, 2018, 10:37:19 AM
I wonder how sage would feel if he read that interview and had to be in the van with this guy. I definitely turned off purple after jake's part.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: lampshade on May 09, 2018, 10:40:08 AM
Is that deck real?  That's crazy.  I find it strange about Powell being down with the white power back in the day, since three of their biggest pros were TG, Ray Barbee, and Cab, plus they pushed the, "Rubber boys" hard. 

I will admit I don't know shit about the southern California white power scene.  Thankfully.

the board is real and there are still a number of them floating around between collectors

powell peralta put a spade on steve steadhams first pro model against his wishes. i heard it was craig stecyk's idea, which wouldn't suprise me because he was spray painting swastikas everywhere in the 70s.

just connect the dots and half the early skate industry is involved in it

Wow.  I thought that swastika deck was just a good Photoshop job or something. 

I remember that Stedham deck, but never made the spade/black connection.  I just thought it was the art work.  I guess now it kind of makes sense. 
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 09, 2018, 10:43:11 AM
the notion that POC's being affiliated with scum like this someone how makes them not racist is laughable.
exactly
white power is not a separatist movement. its not like they only associate with each other.

during slavery white supremacists took people to live on their property, cook their food, etc

so saying some dude isn't white power because they employ a non-white person means nothing

jason jessee is openly white power. and indy and santa cruz and consolidated and speed wheels alot of people backed him and still put out pro models for him to this day.

and its a whole crew of them that kind of have kept a pile of white power skaters on top since the 1970s

connect the dots

jay adams and tony alva were life long best friends

connect the dots

craig stecyk was like their father figure and became the art director / brand manager of powell peralta

just take a close look at their crew and close circle and think about them and who got in the cool kids club and who didn't

some of these cats are still around and still got their thumb on the scales
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: tortfeasor on May 09, 2018, 10:49:26 AM
lets hope no one on here ever does anything stupid or says stupid ass shit...the real question is when you see him will you say something or will you be too busy waiting for a signature? too many people talk and not act. skateboarding is soft


i think cuz im a jew that grew up in a wasp town  i kind of have a different perspective on it...

a LOT of dudes get into "hate" when they are younger (usually in the years between 13-23).  there is something alluring to a lot of people about the red laces lifestyle and the shock imagery.  i guarantee that there are people on here who dabbled in the hate scene when they were young.  there are studies on why it happens. fucking google it, it not worth getting into. however the vast majority of them walk away from it and put it aside. it goes into a box that they compartmentalize and walk away. that's whatever. i have two good buddies that dabbled in hate when they were younger and just outright walked away from it.  personally,  i don't care as much about where someone was as much as i care about where they are,
so if it was a passing thing i would say nothing and be polite...


but this mother fucker is way too old for this shit and way too deep so i would probably ignore him or tell him to fuck off.  also fuck cons i had no idea they were still co-signing this guy (was going to get to purple this weekend) .... i don't care if indy is literally a nazi company their product is so fucking good.


Edit: I made that Indy comment half joking, with less information than I have now, and expecting them to clarify their stance. Looking in hindsight I was wrong. Turns out it doesnít matter how good a product is.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 09, 2018, 10:51:31 AM
i don't care if indy is literally a nazi company their product is so fucking good.

i'm just going to let this quote sit here so i can soak in it
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Stoop Kid 2.0 on May 09, 2018, 10:53:06 AM
Apparently being a racist piece of shit is inspirational.....................


https://instagram.com/p/Bij95EiFmFa/
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 09, 2018, 10:53:58 AM
and OBLOW is one of the mighty gatekeepers
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: IHOP on May 09, 2018, 11:01:21 AM
the notion that POC's being affiliated with scum like this someone how makes them not racist is laughable.

Just to clarify I definitely do not believe that, was just pointing it out.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: stevedave on May 09, 2018, 11:14:06 AM
We gonna give Corey Duffel his own thread for his racist remarks in an interview? 
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: CrappyChan on May 09, 2018, 11:19:31 AM
That interview took place when he was out of the loop out of his mind but these various allegations are a major bummerino. I've always backed his style and goofball attitude but do not back racism in the slightest.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: MexicanSpaniard on May 09, 2018, 11:22:37 AM
hahaha I didn't bother to watch his part in cons because I know he's a midget
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: CRAILFISH TO REVERT on May 09, 2018, 11:23:06 AM
wait.. Powell is a white power company because Craig Stecyk spray painted some swastikas in the 70's? 
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Lame_Nigga on May 09, 2018, 11:25:33 AM
That interview was from 95? Some of you on here weren't even alive them. Maybe he's changed his views since then...

...but with that said I refused to buy the CTS pros on the off chance he was still fucking with the white supremacists shit.

And the difference between this and Duffel is Duffel has apologized repeatedly for like 15 years about it and seems to not act the same
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: mex.ceferino on May 09, 2018, 11:27:32 AM
That interview took place when he was out of the loop out of his mind but these various allegations are a major bummerino. I've always backed his style and goofball attitude but do not back racism in the slightest.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Surf-goth on May 09, 2018, 11:30:07 AM
I wonder how sage would feel if he read that interview and had to be in the van with this guy. I definitely turned off purple after jake's part.

This is exactly why asked. I wanna know what these team riders would think. Would be very easy to jump to any other bearing sponsor hell judging by the size of their team they don't get paid much if anything.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Surf-goth on May 09, 2018, 11:35:33 AM
We gonna give Corey Duffel his own thread for his racist remarks in an interview?

Did you happen to see the Jason jesse signature nazi gear ? I'd say this is worse that Corey's idiotic teenage remark
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Trump2020 on May 09, 2018, 11:38:25 AM
I love Trump but I'm not a fan of Nazi's.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: jakeumms on May 09, 2018, 11:43:36 AM
I know ya'll are banging the racist drum here, which I think is valid, but uh, what's up with the homophobia? And is that deal to mid-wife Steamer's baby legit? She was in his part in Purple. Are they square on all of this?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Big Skatefase on May 09, 2018, 11:51:03 AM
I love Trump
dragon energy
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: IHOP on May 09, 2018, 11:52:56 AM
Im not backing corey too hard but he was what like 14 during that interview? big brother is known for being pushy for controversy. I know I said some fucked up things when I was that young I wouldnt want documented.  He has apologized so much and I think its pretty obvious that isnt the same situation as this.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nino brown on May 09, 2018, 12:04:31 PM
cracka ass cracka and fuck indu trucks too heavy ass trucks. fuck that
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: planman on May 09, 2018, 12:08:46 PM
*Someone on slap mentions an actual neonazi*

An irrelevant poster: "Yeah but Corey Duffel"
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Nosferatu on May 09, 2018, 12:11:11 PM
Yeah but what about Daryl Angel
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Francis Xavier on May 09, 2018, 12:30:56 PM
Yeah but what about Daryl Angel
Reynolds and what he called Gershon
Brian Patch and his fondness for barely legal girls
Tony T vs. Priya
Cole vs. Red
Danny Way
Jay Adams
GABOR AND HIS SCREWDRIVER

It gets to a certain point where you realize that a lot of skaters have done shitty things,and some are still shitty people after showing the world how shitty they were.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Larry on May 09, 2018, 12:31:22 PM
I've always wondered what gives this piece of shit "legend" status. I don't remember him ever doing anything that impressive, and his "quirkiness" everybody claims makes him so great is just him being a trashy SC biker nazi. Anybody who's ever spent time in Santa Cruz knows those are literally the trashiest people on earth.

And yeah, its old news that he's a nazi, but why is he still around? Why is converse and Santa Cruz giving this nazi money and endorsing him as a person?

Anybody who claims "skateboarding doesn't care about your identity! As long as you skate, we're all friends!" needs to realize shit ain't as simple as we wish it were as long as "icons" like him are celebrated. When nazis are celebrated, I don't feel like a welcome part of the community, and I'm sure I'm not alone.
  I've been thinking alot of the same stuff. I felt rly disgusted when I heard that Jay Adams served some time in 80s after beating up some dude to death for being gay. Probably not a newsflash that Adams was a fucking dickface and a racist. It's just sad that this dickface is still remembered as a legend too
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 09, 2018, 12:35:58 PM
I saw someone post on here that Peanut Brown pushed him off the deck of a vert ramp, and I heard from others that he just straight up kicked his ass.  I'm hoping that it was a combination of the two.

this happened at a vert contest basically in front of the entire industry

peanut brown is my og and personally told me what happened:

on the deck of the vert ramp during the contest jason jessee for no reason was being a dick to blaize blouin (rip). peanut told jason to lay off blaize. jason called peanut the n word (he said "shut up n***"). peanut cold knocked jason jessee out with one punch.

the room was in shock. jason jessee never said no shit like that to peanut ever again.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: jakeumms on May 09, 2018, 12:40:05 PM
Since we're posting all the receipts, no one has ever mentioned this bit of decoration hanging in dude's bedroom. Both of those images are Nazi iconography. The top one I can recognize from friggin Indiana Jones and the bottom I know because the Melvins used the same image for an album cover. This is from SC's Troops of Tomorrow from 91 so roughly the same era as the Iron Horse interview.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: planman on May 09, 2018, 12:47:28 PM
Melvins are Nazis? Fuck
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: bawtawd12 on May 09, 2018, 12:48:43 PM
I'm a fan of swastikers I think they look pretty cool and they make people upset like this.

Next step up from upside down crosses.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: jakeumms on May 09, 2018, 12:49:44 PM
Melvins are Nazis? Fuck

Mostly confident Melvins aren't Nazis and that was a really poor choice in album art but then again who knows anymore?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Sick Duck on May 09, 2018, 12:50:30 PM
Is he still on the FBI no-fly list?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: LOU.502 on May 09, 2018, 12:55:56 PM
lets hope no one on here ever does anything stupid or says stupid ass shit...the real question is when you see him will you say something or will you be too busy waiting for a signature? too many people talk and not act. skateboarding is soft
A.) I constantly do and say stupid ass shit
B.) I donít give a shit about Jason Jesses autograph
C.) Heís like 4í3Ē I wouldnít be worried in the       slightest about saying something, itíd probably be funny, especially at a signing. He does seem like the sort of lil Napoleon man whoíd pull a knife out of his motorcycle boot or some shit, so thatíd be something to watch out for, but I doubt he has much reach
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: cosmicgypsies on May 09, 2018, 01:08:25 PM
i just want to know about the hat thing
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 09, 2018, 01:09:31 PM
i just want to know about the hat thing

it covers a double swazi tat on his head
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: fulltechnicalskizzy on May 09, 2018, 01:13:21 PM
i just want to know about the hat thing
Hat starts with the letter h bro. Think about it.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Surf-goth on May 09, 2018, 01:18:47 PM
i just want to know about the hat thing
Hat starts with the letter h bro. Think about it.

Two hats is HH . heil Hitler. Is that where this is headed?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Chavo on May 09, 2018, 01:23:54 PM
There have been many iterations of Jay Adams swastika boards over the years by Dogtown, Deathbox (the deck pictured above is from Tony Mag's early 2000s company), Z, Unbelievers, etc. Craig Stecyk, the guy who introduced the Totenkopf skull to skateboarding, is Jewish by the way. To further complicate things, Jason Jessee is/was in the Sinners MC who sometimes use the Star of David for their emblem.

I do not believe that Jay was considered a racist, he was just using the iconography that was popular in Venice at the time. Surf and skate nazis were very popular when I started skating in the early '80s and was not tied to white supremacist ideology (in modern terms, just poor white suburban kids being "edgy"). In fact, people would not ask if I was a "skater" in 1984, rather if I was a "skate nazi".
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: feedmeseymour on May 09, 2018, 01:35:19 PM
There have been many iterations of Jay Adams swastika boards over the years by Dogtown, Deathbox (the deck pictured above is from Tony Mag's early 2000s company), Z, Unbelievers, etc. Craig Stecyk, the guy who introduced the Totenkopf skull to skateboarding, is Jewish by the way. To further complicate things, Jason Jessee is/was in the Sinners MC who sometimes use the Star of David for their emblem.

I do not believe that Jay was considered a racist, he was just using the iconography that was popular in Venice at the time. Surf and skate nazis were very popular when I started skating in the early '80s and was not tied to white supremacist ideology (in modern terms, just poor white suburban kids being "edgy"). In fact, people would not ask if I was a "skater" in 1984, rather if I was a "skate nazi".



appropriating co-opting a racist subculture and thinking you can just drop the racist part and be cool is easily one of whitest things you can do...
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Big Skatefase on May 09, 2018, 01:35:42 PM
grown ass men using imagery from such a hateful group of people to make themselves look tough or intimidating is the corniest shit ever.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: ungzilla on May 09, 2018, 02:01:40 PM
i just want to know about the hat thing
Hat starts with the letter h bro. Think about it.

2 girls hats 1 cup master race
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: gollum mcjinglemeballs on May 09, 2018, 02:03:14 PM
I just want everyone to know that I'm only 32.8% skateboarder, and that's on a good day. The rest is just soy and cum.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: mex.ceferino on May 09, 2018, 02:08:03 PM
^ thnx 4 my new sig gollum <3
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: cosmicgypsies on May 09, 2018, 02:13:19 PM
i just want to know about the hat thing
Hat starts with the letter h bro. Think about it.

get this guy on mythbusters holy shit
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: HATE! on May 09, 2018, 02:14:02 PM
grown ass men using imagery from such a hateful group of people to make themselves look tough or intimidating is the corniest shit ever.

100%. 

"They don't actually believe it, it's just something that comes with the culture."

Oh, ok.  That's fine then.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: bogolden on May 09, 2018, 02:15:12 PM
I wonder how sage would feel if he read that interview and had to be in the van with this guy. I definitely turned off purple after jake's part.

There was a part after Jake"s???  wow, hate i missed it  ::)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: BacksideWallride on May 09, 2018, 02:23:56 PM
I wonder how sage would feel if he read that interview and had to be in the van with this guy. I definitely turned off purple after jake's part.

There was a part after Jake"s???  wow, hate i missed it  ::)

This would be the second company Sage has been on with Nazis... That fat fuck who worked for FA britches or whatever
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: IHOP on May 09, 2018, 02:30:26 PM
I wonder how sage would feel if he read that interview and had to be in the van with this guy. I definitely turned off purple after jake's part.

There was a part after Jake"s???  wow, hate i missed it  ::)

This would be the second company Sage has been on with Nazis... That fat fuck who worked for FA britches or whatever

FA put out a jason jesse guest board a few years ago
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: bawtawd12 on May 09, 2018, 02:38:39 PM
Hmmm maybe some kind of social media campaign to pressure Converse to drop him would be a good idea? That has to be his biggest paycheck.  If Nike would drop Hewitt for getting poo'd on you'd have to figure that Cons wouldn't stand behind somebody that was repeatedly outed to all of their followers as a Nazi.   

Also despite how serious of a topic this is the two Hat thing almost made me laugh out loud
Have you seen the converse video? 50% of the people in it look like Nazis. I'm pretty sure they're low key into it. Manolo predicted this. Anyway we should just let people be who they wanna be. If people want to support a brand with no controversial riders theres always revive. I'm pretty sure none of them have even smoked a cigarette.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: lampshade on May 09, 2018, 02:39:26 PM
grown ass men using imagery from such a hateful group of people to make themselves look tough or intimidating is the corniest shit ever.

100%. 

"They don't actually believe it, it's just something that comes with the culture."

Oh, ok.  That's fine then.

Right.  That is what Michael Vick and DMX said about the dog fighting thing.  "It's just part of their culture."
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: roba on May 09, 2018, 02:40:19 PM
i just want to know about the hat thing
Hat starts with the letter h bro. Think about it.

damn
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Francis Xavier on May 09, 2018, 02:41:22 PM
I wonder how sage would feel if he read that interview and had to be in the van with this guy. I definitely turned off purple after jake's part.

There was a part after Jake"s???  wow, hate i missed it  ::)

This would be the second company Sage has been on with Nazis... That fat fuck who worked for FA britches or whatever

FA put out a jason jesse guest board a few years ago
Nazi Golden Triangle
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Sold Out on May 09, 2018, 02:51:51 PM
Never understood his pass as a legend. Fuck this dude.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on May 09, 2018, 03:00:33 PM
There have been many iterations of Jay Adams swastika boards over the years by Dogtown, Deathbox (the deck pictured above is from Tony Mag's early 2000s company), Z, Unbelievers, etc. Craig Stecyk, the guy who introduced the Totenkopf skull to skateboarding, is Jewish by the way. To further complicate things, Jason Jessee is/was in the Sinners MC who sometimes use the Star of David for their emblem.

I do not believe that Jay was considered a racist, he was just using the iconography that was popular in Venice at the time. Surf and skate nazis were very popular when I started skating in the early '80s and was not tied to white supremacist ideology (in modern terms, just poor white suburban kids being "edgy"). In fact, people would not ask if I was a "skater" in 1984, rather if I was a "skate nazi".
Ah yes, a person claiming its ok because they know a jew who is cool with it. I'm a jew, I'm not cool with it. Stop trying to speak for my culture when you aren't part of it.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 09, 2018, 03:04:15 PM
There have been many iterations of Jay Adams swastika boards over the years by Dogtown, Deathbox (the deck pictured above is from Tony Mag's early 2000s company), Z, Unbelievers, etc. Craig Stecyk, the guy who introduced the Totenkopf skull to skateboarding, is Jewish by the way. To further complicate things, Jason Jessee is/was in the Sinners MC who sometimes use the Star of David for their emblem.

I do not believe that Jay was considered a racist, he was just using the iconography that was popular in Venice at the time. Surf and skate nazis were very popular when I started skating in the early '80s and was not tied to white supremacist ideology (in modern terms, just poor white suburban kids being "edgy"). In fact, people would not ask if I was a "skater" in 1984, rather if I was a "skate nazi".
Ah yes, a person claiming its ok because they know a jew who is cool with it. I'm a jew, I'm not cool with it. Stop trying to speak for my culture when you aren't part of it.

jay adams was absolutely an unapologetic racist. one time he personally called me "a wannabe black guy". dude had a swastika tattoo on his chest and went to jail for years for the beating death of a gay man. more than a racist, jay adams was a drug addicted scumbag moocher trash can.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 09, 2018, 03:06:34 PM
It's not unusual to see swatiskas(the nazi ones)on display in Asia, especially among biker types. To be fair, I think East Asian students don't study history, certainly not western history, as much because that shit doesn't get you a corporate salary job. Also, there aren't a lot of white pride neo-nazis running around Asia, so the maybe the symbol isn't taken as seriously.

fun history fact: japan fought on the side of the nazis in world war 2. they lost that war. you might have heard of it. it was in all the papers and on tv and everything.

also in japan they think racism is mad cute. they are big collectors of black face figurines. and they use all sorts of sketchy 'sambo' art styles on almost any kind of product.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Silky Johnson on May 09, 2018, 03:08:20 PM

EDIT: forgot this... Neighborhood X Jason Jessee Swastika shirts


Quote

I understand Neighbourhood is Japanese so perhaps the swastika isn't as recognised? (maybe not)

But how the fuck can anyone want to pay top dollar for some shirts and jackets with swastikas on them?

It's not unusual to see swatiskas(the nazi ones)on display in Asia, especially among biker types. To be fair, I think East Asian students don't study history, certainly not western history, as much because that shit doesn't get you a corporate salary job. Also, there aren't a lot of white pride neo-nazis running around Asia, so the maybe the symbol isn't taken as seriously.
Japan was in WWII tho...
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: BacksideWallride on May 09, 2018, 03:11:00 PM
I wonder how sage would feel if he read that interview and had to be in the van with this guy. I definitely turned off purple after jake's part.

There was a part after Jake"s???  wow, hate i missed it  ::)

This would be the second company Sage has been on with Nazis... That fat fuck who worked for FA britches or whatever

FA put out a jason jesse guest board a few years ago

Well there ya go. Weird
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: silhouette on May 09, 2018, 03:19:31 PM
i just want to know about the hat thing
Hat starts with the letter h bro. Think about it.

Two hats is HH . heil Hitler. Is that where this is headed?

nah, in this case HH obviously stands for Heavy Headwear.

also Jason Jessee = JJ

Converse video had two JJ's, the most ancient out of the two wears two hats, that's two coincidences. everything points to number two,

JJ minus two letters in the alphabet = HH (obtained via substraction)

also substraction from this planet = death

substraction (times two) from death is revive

two years before Jason Jessee gets on Revive confirmed
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Fat_Dude_Arnold on May 09, 2018, 03:23:52 PM
Don't forget that indy capsule he just did was all cross hammers, drawn by a 2 year old, but still a known WP symbol. So fuck indy, they're constantly putting out so much blatantly racist shit. I don't care who rides for them, it sucks.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Tommy G on May 09, 2018, 03:28:23 PM
It's not unusual to see swatiskas(the nazi ones)on display in Asia, especially among biker types. To be fair, I think East Asian students don't study history, certainly not western history, as much because that shit doesn't get you a corporate salary job. Also, there aren't a lot of white pride neo-nazis running around Asia, so the maybe the symbol isn't taken as seriously.

fun history fact: japan fought on the side of the nazis in world war 2. they lost that war. you might have heard of it. it was in all the papers and on tv and everything.

also in japan they think racism is mad cute. they are big collectors of black face figurines. and they use all sorts of sketchy 'sambo' art styles on almost any kind of product.

Yeah racism and conformity has been a problem in Japan hence why everyone looks the same. Just look at the last controversy they had during one of their big beauty contests. The winner was half Indian half Japanese and they freaking cried about it because it wasn't a "normal" Japanese woman. Even though the swastika was a symbol of peace a couple of millenia ago, it's no longer accepted as that worldwide. On the topic of Jason Jessee, the last interview I read in the past Thrasher made me question every bit of him because half of that sounded like some schizophrenic ramblings. Glad I know what's going on now. 
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 09, 2018, 03:38:55 PM
generally i find when people try to defend a known racist they are secretly defending themselves

(because they are secretly racist)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: schralp pal on May 09, 2018, 03:39:25 PM
While I donít think it was what Jesse had intended, the swastika is a symbol of peace I n Buddhism
And Hinduism too, predating hitlers subversive use of it, but of course hitlers version is what is most recognized...anyway it doesnít matter because Jason Jesse sucks and his blue collar nazi white power schtick is a disease upon skateboarding and Santa Cruz.

For the record - I turned of purple after jakes part too.  Hahah
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Xen on May 09, 2018, 04:02:59 PM
I've always wondered what gives this piece of shit "legend" status..

Because Jimbo's shit still sells:

https://www.pinterest.com/cee_003/jason-jessee/
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: bawtawd12 on May 09, 2018, 04:05:04 PM
Where did this California nazi thing start? Prison system? Cause down south where there were actually slaves no ones on that aesthetic tip. Were still racist but not that edgy racist stuff, were on that real shit. California racists hold this L.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: HyenaChaser on May 09, 2018, 04:07:45 PM
Yes, the swastika has been used to symbolize a myriad of things (mostly the sun) in many cultures around the world for eons before WWII, but in this day and age to use one anywhere and not consider its 20th century connotations is dangerously ignorant.

Whether or not a swastika "isn't the same" in Japan, the knowledge of what it symbolizes is globally known, and Asia is no exception:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/aug/02/mongolia-far-right
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/jmv73p/the-malaysian-nazis-fighting-for-a-pure-race

I don't care if it's "just a biker culture" affectation, keep that shit the fuck out of skateboarding.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: homehelpsearch on May 09, 2018, 04:37:29 PM
I saw Jason Jesse shovelin heebs into tha ovens @ the holocaust, what a frickin nazi...I also heard that ignorant a-hole does absolutely nothing to improve the barely above slave labor working conditions for thousands of asian sweatshop workers. Daily suffering so he can have the latest shoe colorways and an endless stream of apparel. and he has a swastika on his bike that dumb nazi redneck
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on May 09, 2018, 05:07:00 PM
Where did this California nazi thing start? Prison system? Cause down south where there were actually slaves no ones on that aesthetic tip. Were still racist but not that edgy racist stuff, were on that real shit. California racists hold this L.
California racists do hold that L, but thereís this one battle flag that is much more prevalent and also a symbol of racism in the South.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: fulltechnicalskizzy on May 09, 2018, 05:08:14 PM
(http://nascar.frgimages.com/FFImage/thumb.aspx?i=/productImages/_2688000/ff_2688754_full.jpg&w=500)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: streetsoup on May 09, 2018, 05:10:57 PM
I thought this was common knowledge.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on May 09, 2018, 05:24:40 PM
I was disappointed in Jim for the Trujillo bullshit, but its pretty rad that in an era when ďskate naziĒ was a cool thing and hip skaters and ďlegendsĒ were putting swastikas on shit, he releases the fuckiní hanging klansman board. Thatís truly punk rock.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Silky Johnson on May 09, 2018, 05:25:46 PM
https://youtu.be/REsnataz5to
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: streetsoup on May 09, 2018, 05:28:40 PM
I was disappointed in Jim for the Trujillo bullshit, but its pretty rad that in an era when ďskate naziĒ was a cool thing and hip skaters and ďlegendsĒ were putting swastikas on shit, he releases the fuckiní hanging klansman board. Thatís truly punk rock.


Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 09, 2018, 05:31:10 PM
I was disappointed in Jim for the Trujillo bullshit, but its pretty rad that in an era when ďskate naziĒ was a cool thing and hip skaters and ďlegendsĒ were putting swastikas on shit, he releases the fuckiní hanging klansman board. Thatís truly punk rock.

one day we should really unpack the early history of ermico and what it became in skateboarding

also i think natas actually drew the hanging klansman. respect due.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on May 09, 2018, 05:33:03 PM
I was disappointed in Jim for the Trujillo bullshit, but its pretty rad that in an era when ďskate naziĒ was a cool thing and hip skaters and ďlegendsĒ were putting swastikas on shit, he releases the fuckiní hanging klansman board. Thatís truly punk rock.
  Two totally different eras.  The Klansmen board was out when nobody was giving a fuck about Jay Adams or Jason Jesse.  That board's from the early 90s.   Hella tone deaf post Gipper, and aging skateboarders please stop saying 'that's punk rock' thank you.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: DISTANT RUMOURS on May 09, 2018, 05:37:05 PM
It's not unusual to see swatiskas(the nazi ones)on display in Asia, especially among biker types. To be fair, I think East Asian students don't study history, certainly not western history, as much because that shit doesn't get you a corporate salary job. Also, there aren't a lot of white pride neo-nazis running around Asia, so the maybe the symbol isn't taken as seriously.

fun history fact: japan fought on the side of the nazis in world war 2. they lost that war. you might have heard of it. it was in all the papers and on tv and everything.

also in japan they think racism is mad cute. they are big collectors of black face figurines. and they use all sorts of sketchy 'sambo' art styles on almost any kind of product.

THIS.

Japanese people are very racist in general. And I'm pretty sure it's also one of the few countries where islam is prohibited by law for example. They just don't really tolerate other cultures/religions.

And they know darn well what a inverted swastika in these recent times means...

They're NOT hindu's people...
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on May 09, 2018, 06:15:30 PM
grown ass men using imagery from such a hateful group of people to make themselves look tough or intimidating is the corniest shit ever.
welcome to the world of "bikers"

yes, the Manji symbol has been used in buddhism for centuries but that's not the angle that JJ is going for. I don't think he is full blown racist probably just 1/3 dumb, 1/3 mentally disabled and 6/3 trying to be edgy AF but yeah ... it is pretty amazing that so many people let it/ him slide.
As for Japan, well Japanese bikers just copy 81/ HA type shit even though they aren't really in gangs or anything. Saw a dude at the skatepark the other day with a swastika on his Harley, think he knew what it meant? nah, just following trends. Same thing happens with punks over here; they saw that Sid wore a swastika shirt back in the day and they all wanna ape his style. Despite what distant rumors believes young people here have no clue what it means/ or it's implications but hey, welcome to 2018. Kids use the "manji" symbol a lot lately which is cringy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qV7xbAVOY0
also Islam banned in Japan by law? You trippin son...
side note though: the mosque near my house does have to give a translated transcript of what they talk about to the police though. Whether Japan is racist or not is another topic though, let's focus on the mad hatter/ midget biker for the meantime.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: the_unknown_soldier on May 09, 2018, 06:22:13 PM
I was disappointed in Jim for the Trujillo bullshit, but its pretty rad that in an era when ďskate naziĒ was a cool thing and hip skaters and ďlegendsĒ were putting swastikas on shit, he releases the fuckiní hanging klansman board. Thatís truly punk rock.
  Two totally different eras.  The Klansmen board was out when nobody was giving a fuck about Jay Adams or Jason Jesse.  That board's from the early 90s.   Hella tone deaf post Gipper, and aging skateboarders please stop saying 'that's punk rock' thank you.

I think that's the point. The board is addressing something that people should have been giving a fuck about, and should continue to give a fuck about.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: se7en3two on May 09, 2018, 06:23:58 PM
It's not unusual to see swatiskas(the nazi ones)on display in Asia, especially among biker types. To be fair, I think East Asian students don't study history, certainly not western history, as much because that shit doesn't get you a corporate salary job. Also, there aren't a lot of white pride neo-nazis running around Asia, so the maybe the symbol isn't taken as seriously.

fun history fact: japan fought on the side of the nazis in world war 2. they lost that war. you might have heard of it. it was in all the papers and on tv and everything.

also in japan they think racism is mad cute. they are big collectors of black face figurines. and they use all sorts of sketchy 'sambo' art styles on almost any kind of product.

Yeah racism and conformity has been a problem in Japan hence why everyone looks the same. Just look at the last controversy they had during one of their big beauty contests. The winner was half Indian half Japanese and they freaking cried about it because it wasn't a "normal" Japanese woman. Even though the swastika was a symbol of peace a couple of millenia ago, it's no longer accepted as that worldwide. On the topic of Jason Jessee, the last interview I read in the past Thrasher made me question every bit of him because half of that sounded like some schizophrenic ramblings. Glad I know what's going on now.

Speaking of Thrasher and this twat- they posted his purple clip on insta tonight and someone was quick to point out his open racism. Nice job, whoever that was.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: AllBranFlakes69 on May 09, 2018, 07:23:13 PM
There have been many iterations of Jay Adams swastika boards over the years by Dogtown, Deathbox (the deck pictured above is from Tony Mag's early 2000s company), Z, Unbelievers, etc. Craig Stecyk, the guy who introduced the Totenkopf skull to skateboarding, is Jewish by the way. To further complicate things, Jason Jessee is/was in the Sinners MC who sometimes use the Star of David for their emblem.

I do not believe that Jay was considered a racist, he was just using the iconography that was popular in Venice at the time. Surf and skate nazis were very popular when I started skating in the early '80s and was not tied to white supremacist ideology (in modern terms, just poor white suburban kids being "edgy"). In fact, people would not ask if I was a "skater" in 1984, rather if I was a "skate nazi".
Ah yes, a person claiming its ok because they know a jew who is cool with it. I'm a jew, I'm not cool with it. Stop trying to speak for my culture when you aren't part of it.

And don't you dare try and make a dentist joke!
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: i used to skate on May 09, 2018, 07:53:45 PM
As for Japan, well Japanese bikers just copy 81/ HA type shit even though they aren't really in gangs or anything. Saw a dude at the skatepark the other day with a swastika on his Harley, think he knew what it meant? nah, just following trends. Same thing happens with punks over here; they saw that Sid wore a swastika shirt back in the day and they all wanna ape his style. Despite what distant rumors believes young people here have no clue what it means/ or it's implications but hey, welcome to 2018. Kids use the "manji" symbol a lot lately which is cringy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qV7xbAVOY0

Damn how is that possible no one knows history there. Granted thatís the inverted Hindu version but still
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: The Drew on May 09, 2018, 08:04:09 PM
As for Japan, well Japanese bikers just copy 81/ HA type shit even though they aren't really in gangs or anything. Saw a dude at the skatepark the other day with a swastika on his Harley, think he knew what it meant? nah, just following trends. Same thing happens with punks over here; they saw that Sid wore a swastika shirt back in the day and they all wanna ape his style. Despite what distant rumors believes young people here have no clue what it means/ or it's implications but hey, welcome to 2018. Kids use the "manji" symbol a lot lately which is cringy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qV7xbAVOY0

Damn how is that possible no one knows history there. Granted thatís the inverted Hindu version but still

Probably because of the education system in Japan...
 
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on May 09, 2018, 08:36:14 PM
As for Japan, well Japanese bikers just copy 81/ HA type shit even though they aren't really in gangs or anything. Saw a dude at the skatepark the other day with a swastika on his Harley, think he knew what it meant? nah, just following trends. Same thing happens with punks over here; they saw that Sid wore a swastika shirt back in the day and they all wanna ape his style. Despite what distant rumors believes young people here have no clue what it means/ or it's implications but hey, welcome to 2018. Kids use the "manji" symbol a lot lately which is cringy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qV7xbAVOY0

Damn how is that possible no one knows history there. Granted thatís the inverted Hindu version but still

Probably because of the education system in Japan...
 
this, and the general disinterest by the majority of young people in anything remotely political
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: REGS on May 09, 2018, 09:56:05 PM
Jason Jessee posted several racist instagram pictures and captions around the time Trump was elected. Anyone remember that? I'm sure there was a thread and screenshots. He deleted them shortly after.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Chavo on May 09, 2018, 10:29:50 PM
There have been many iterations of Jay Adams swastika boards over the years by Dogtown, Deathbox (the deck pictured above is from Tony Mag's early 2000s company), Z, Unbelievers, etc. Craig Stecyk, the guy who introduced the Totenkopf skull to skateboarding, is Jewish by the way. To further complicate things, Jason Jessee is/was in the Sinners MC who sometimes use the Star of David for their emblem.

I do not believe that Jay was considered a racist, he was just using the iconography that was popular in Venice at the time. Surf and skate nazis were very popular when I started skating in the early '80s and was not tied to white supremacist ideology (in modern terms, just poor white suburban kids being "edgy"). In fact, people would not ask if I was a "skater" in 1984, rather if I was a "skate nazi".
Ah yes, a person claiming its ok because they know a jew who is cool with it. I'm a jew, I'm not cool with it. Stop trying to speak for my culture when you aren't part of it.

jay adams was absolutely an unapologetic racist. one time he personally called me "a wannabe black guy". dude had a swastika tattoo on his chest and went to jail for years for the beating death of a gay man. more than a racist, jay adams was a drug addicted scumbag moocher trash can.

Maybe he was one, he just wasn't known for being a racist in his heyday. Jay was actually good friends with Marty Grimes and set him up with Z-Flex, his stepfather's company (which eventually became "Z", the brand best known for their non-grinding trucks). Marty became the first black pro skater. Jay also put Marty's brother Clyde and Solo Scott on the team.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: StabMasterArson on May 09, 2018, 10:36:03 PM
I was disappointed in Jim for the Trujillo bullshit, but its pretty rad that in an era when ďskate naziĒ was a cool thing and hip skaters and ďlegendsĒ were putting swastikas on shit, he releases the fuckiní hanging klansman board. Thatís truly punk rock.
If there is anyone in skateboarding worth looking up to, it's Jim Thiebaud.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: SugarSweetSemen on May 09, 2018, 10:53:26 PM
Yeah but what about Daryl Angel
Tony T vs. Priya
Cole vs. Red
GABOR AND HIS SCREWDRIVER

Would like to hear more about these.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Chavo on May 09, 2018, 10:54:14 PM
There have been many iterations of Jay Adams swastika boards over the years by Dogtown, Deathbox (the deck pictured above is from Tony Mag's early 2000s company), Z, Unbelievers, etc. Craig Stecyk, the guy who introduced the Totenkopf skull to skateboarding, is Jewish by the way. To further complicate things, Jason Jessee is/was in the Sinners MC who sometimes use the Star of David for their emblem.

I do not believe that Jay was considered a racist, he was just using the iconography that was popular in Venice at the time. Surf and skate nazis were very popular when I started skating in the early '80s and was not tied to white supremacist ideology (in modern terms, just poor white suburban kids being "edgy"). In fact, people would not ask if I was a "skater" in 1984, rather if I was a "skate nazi".
Ah yes, a person claiming its ok because they know a jew who is cool with it. I'm a jew, I'm not cool with it. Stop trying to speak for my culture when you aren't part of it.

I think context is important. Old street gangs probably just used swastikas as an artistic device, while some skinheads obviously opted for its Third Reich meaning. This is the imagery that Stecyk appropriated from an old LA gang Dog Town Rifa (they must have gotten the message that you're not cool with it--they've since replaced the swastika with an "x"):
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/92/271010376_3508701e08_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: ArtVandelay on May 09, 2018, 11:40:13 PM
You think Cranston's mixed up in this?

Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 10, 2018, 04:36:08 AM
https://youtu.be/ONU_YwmOlF4 (https://youtu.be/ONU_YwmOlF4)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: colt cannon lunchbox on May 10, 2018, 05:21:29 AM
There have been many iterations of Jay Adams swastika boards over the years by Dogtown, Deathbox (the deck pictured above is from Tony Mag's early 2000s company), Z, Unbelievers, etc. Craig Stecyk, the guy who introduced the Totenkopf skull to skateboarding, is Jewish by the way. To further complicate things, Jason Jessee is/was in the Sinners MC who sometimes use the Star of David for their emblem.

I do not believe that Jay was considered a racist, he was just using the iconography that was popular in Venice at the time. Surf and skate nazis were very popular when I started skating in the early '80s and was not tied to white supremacist ideology (in modern terms, just poor white suburban kids being "edgy"). In fact, people would not ask if I was a "skater" in 1984, rather if I was a "skate nazi".
Ah yes, a person claiming its ok because they know a jew who is cool with it. I'm a jew, I'm not cool with it. Stop trying to speak for my culture when you aren't part of it.

And don't you dare try and make a dentist joke!

No anti-dentites will be tolerated on slap.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Disco234 on May 10, 2018, 05:58:59 AM
What always rubbed me wrong about this guy is that he is a full-fledged mormon who uses Catholic symbolism for a marketing ploy and he Has probably never stepped foot in a Catholic Church dude is kookery at itís finest, Who has been milking skateboarding for years. So fuck him with his low rider/biker outlaw wanna be Mexican image. Nazi kook
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on May 10, 2018, 07:37:26 AM
I just watched a Jay A interview I hadn't seen from  2002 amplified surf film on yt.  I like these dudes (Jason Jesse, jay adams) from my little skate media perspective but if they were out 'bashin' I'd be on the minorities side and truck fuck em.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: shark tits on May 10, 2018, 08:31:07 AM
I just watched a Jay A interview I hadn't seen from  2002 amplified surf film on yt.  I like these dudes (Jason Jesse, jay adams) from my little skate media perspective but if they were out 'bashin' I'd be on the minorities side and truck fuck em.
GANG !
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on May 10, 2018, 08:33:05 AM
Yeah but what about Daryl Angel
Tony T vs. Priya
Cole vs. Red
GABOR AND HIS SCREWDRIVER

Would like to hear more about these.
Unfortunately you can't read up on Tony T. beating up Priya, DLX had it removed from here, and this is the place where she spoke up about it. Andy and Tony both posted on instagram about it, and both took it down, likely by DLX orders. Tony kept his board, but in the next series, Andy's was gone. From where I am, it appears as if deluxe believes that the biggest problem in that violence against women situation was the fact that it was exposed, not the fact that it happened.
Its becoming more and more clear that the skateboard industry covers up and enables horrific things that some terrible and violent pro skaters do. The whole thing is going to blow up in their face too.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: roastbeef on May 10, 2018, 09:41:38 AM
Yeah but what about Daryl Angel
Tony T vs. Priya
Cole vs. Red
GABOR AND HIS SCREWDRIVER

Would like to hear more about these.
Unfortunately you can't read up on Tony T. beating up Priya, DLX had it removed from here, and this is the place where she spoke up about it. Andy and Tony both posted on instagram about it, and both took it down, likely by DLX orders. Tony kept his board, but in the next series, Andy's was gone. From where I am, it appears as if deluxe believes that the biggest problem in that violence against women situation was the fact that it was exposed, not the fact that it happened.
Its becoming more and more clear that the skateboard industry covers up and enables horrific things that some terrible and violent pro skaters do. The whole thing is going to blow up in their face too.

From what i understand that TNT vs Priya, both parties were acting like jackasses. So i wouldnt take it as Tony beating up Priya. Girls that wanna fight should expect to get hit. I dont think andy not having a board is related to this. Andy always fucks up, if you havent noticed. Probably stealing boards or some shit.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Surf-goth on May 10, 2018, 10:20:10 AM
Yeah but what about Daryl Angel
Tony T vs. Priya
Cole vs. Red
GABOR AND HIS SCREWDRIVER

Would like to hear more about these.
Unfortunately you can't read up on Tony T. beating up Priya, DLX had it removed from here, and this is the place where she spoke up about it. Andy and Tony both posted on instagram about it, and both took it down, likely by DLX orders. Tony kept his board, but in the next series, Andy's was gone. From where I am, it appears as if deluxe believes that the biggest problem in that violence against women situation was the fact that it was exposed, not the fact that it happened.
Its becoming more and more clear that the skateboard industry covers up and enables horrific things that some terrible and violent pro skaters do. The whole thing is going to blow up in their face too.

Didn't priya show up yelling at tony's house and assault him? Dude it's that scumbag andy Roy's girlfriend...i doubt she's a nice woman.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: DannyDee on May 10, 2018, 11:54:18 AM
Yeah but what about Daryl Angel
Tony T vs. Priya
Cole vs. Red
GABOR AND HIS SCREWDRIVER

Would like to hear more about these.
Unfortunately you can't read up on Tony T. beating up Priya, DLX had it removed from here, and this is the place where she spoke up about it. Andy and Tony both posted on instagram about it, and both took it down, likely by DLX orders. Tony kept his board, but in the next series, Andy's was gone. From where I am, it appears as if deluxe believes that the biggest problem in that violence against women situation was the fact that it was exposed, not the fact that it happened.
Its becoming more and more clear that the skateboard industry covers up and enables horrific things that some terrible and violent pro skaters do. The whole thing is going to blow up in their face too.
Andy got his board taken away awhile ago I thought. Has he had anything since they mentioned that in Epicly Later'd?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: GAY on May 10, 2018, 12:33:35 PM
The beanie under the hat look is very short bus chic.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: saucy ragu on May 10, 2018, 03:37:40 PM
Here to hate on nazis.

Second photo:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BikBfqGlGZ5/?taken-by=skateboardmuseum (https://www.instagram.com/p/BikBfqGlGZ5/?taken-by=skateboardmuseum)

What sort of mindless asshole thinks this is cool?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Zumiez And Xanax on May 10, 2018, 03:55:04 PM
Jackson 5 pin?

(https://i.gyazo.com/14a6af02a3e6cc8462811d325c4f61e8.png)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 10, 2018, 03:58:30 PM
What sort of mindless asshole thinks this is cool?

apparently the guy who runs the skateboard museum thinks its hot

that jacket is goofy as fuck

good find. this is proof that even right now dude is still doing hectic nazi shit

did you know he is santa cruz's top selling pro in 2018?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: GAY on May 10, 2018, 04:12:17 PM
Jackson 5 pin?

(https://i.gyazo.com/14a6af02a3e6cc8462811d325c4f61e8.png)

See? RACIST
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 10, 2018, 04:14:38 PM
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32349597_10156451504582853_8745902008617140224_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeEZbOZ8fBjXwsjE29FCPPxYcIsjfu2L_VICXvhhKNiSBb5zWWJ53eYM4iJcTciLyESo1gqCB3bKIgfmLWBDC4_ZV7tcP-unhjM6UwhJZ4E-Bw&oh=a74321544141740c4915313060642262&oe=5B9719A5)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: straight fucking edge on May 10, 2018, 04:16:45 PM
what a boring ass topic/thread
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Zumiez And Xanax on May 10, 2018, 04:16:53 PM
what the fuck

(https://i.gyazo.com/4cd30eb0e2ccba4a65d2d2175f34b1ee.png)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Trump2020 on May 10, 2018, 05:54:50 PM
Modern day feminism is one of the worst things in existence. I can't wait for TNT's new shoe to drop, I heard from a reliable source it'll be here soon.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: shark tits on May 10, 2018, 06:00:41 PM
Modern day feminism is one of the worst things in existence. I can't wait for TNT's new shoe to drop on dirtbag p's ass, I heard from a reliable source it'll be here soon.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: expired on May 10, 2018, 06:07:36 PM
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32349597_10156451504582853_8745902008617140224_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeEZbOZ8fBjXwsjE29FCPPxYcIsjfu2L_VICXvhhKNiSBb5zWWJ53eYM4iJcTciLyESo1gqCB3bKIgfmLWBDC4_ZV7tcP-unhjM6UwhJZ4E-Bw&oh=a74321544141740c4915313060642262&oe=5B9719A5)

Secret tape calling him out now in the comments, "swastikas are not sick"
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on May 10, 2018, 06:34:42 PM
Secret tape calling him out now in the comments, "swastikas are not sick"

Chico commented on Sanchez's pic too! Shit's about to blow up
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 10, 2018, 06:36:00 PM
Secret tape calling him out now in the comments, "swastikas are not sick"

Chico commented on Sanchez's pic too! Shit's about to blow up

looks like someone even deleted the sanch screen shots from this thread

hectic
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 10, 2018, 06:37:40 PM
wait why would they delete this stuff? its not slander or anything.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Lenny the Fatface on May 10, 2018, 06:38:59 PM
Good job Slap Pals for not letting this ish die.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 10, 2018, 06:42:05 PM
oh damn they deleted the hard luck thread where this was all first posted too. shady.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: ziggy on May 10, 2018, 06:43:03 PM
I know not many people here like NHS or Santa Cruz in particular, but i do. I always liked Jason and i honestly had no idea about any of this.

Feels bad, man. Our Bill Cosby, i guess?Ö
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 10, 2018, 06:44:10 PM
oh damn they deleted the hard luck thread where this was all first posted too. shady.

skate nazis run california skateboarding

and they are finally losing their iron grip on the industry

ermico was built on drug money by bikers
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on May 10, 2018, 06:46:39 PM
oh damn they deleted the hard luck thread where this was all first posted too. shady.
what? seriously?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 10, 2018, 06:47:21 PM
https://youtu.be/ONU_YwmOlF4 (https://youtu.be/ONU_YwmOlF4)


did you watch this clip 5 minutes in where jake phelps is talking about how awesome swastikas are?

connect the dots
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 10, 2018, 06:47:58 PM
man this is an extra bummer because there was no hearsay or slander posted and everything that was posted showed proof.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 10, 2018, 06:48:43 PM
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32215202_10156448901912853_2575349114661240832_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeFLqgiiv5cG1cx1cdHQ3OmbV9wPx5GApEhsUngHGrAdWPuVz99F5rkZHizBqTwipv2ftSaJt3bj4JmktwLOs5kFyTTJtHMHJWrxmtX9UjMCDQ&oh=e20099a96f4fc444945eb5fe27eb9bbb&oe=5B93BF55)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 10, 2018, 06:49:10 PM
oh damn they deleted the hard luck thread where this was all first posted too. shady.
what? seriously?

yeah i was curious because they deleted my message in this thread where i quoted that post in the thread. i then found another thread that linked back to it and its gone.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Zumiez And Xanax on May 10, 2018, 06:51:59 PM
i hope he doesn't go back into seclusion for another decade. the jacket could be considered a 'punk rock relic of the past' .. Fuck.. jason.. i'm sure there's an explanation!
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: bawtawdreloaded on May 10, 2018, 06:56:45 PM
I respect anyone who is honest no matter what they think. when you hide it and try to pull the wool over my eyes you lose all respect
(https://i.imgur.com/tjfPTaR.jpg)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Zumiez And Xanax on May 10, 2018, 06:58:25 PM
how many industry heads are nervously refreshing this thread right now?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Bobby Peru on May 10, 2018, 07:00:16 PM
For the record, Luke, Isaac, Neal, and I have deleted no posts and I'm really bothered that it's happening.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Big Skatefase on May 10, 2018, 07:04:23 PM
i prefer nazis to at least be open about being a nazi.

if you wanna represent that, then do what you wanna, but don't be a bitch and try to hide the fact that you're a nazi.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Pill_Cosby on May 10, 2018, 07:12:27 PM
I know not many people here like NHS or Santa Cruz in particular, but i do. I always liked Jason and i honestly had no idea about any of this.

Feels bad, man. Our Bill Cosby, i guess?Ö

Leave me out of this, I have enough shit on my plate.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: augustmoon on May 10, 2018, 07:32:01 PM
lol @ high speed ministry of propaganda deleting shit.  its not like Jason Jesse hides any of this shit, he literally wears it on his sleeve. 
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on May 10, 2018, 07:34:38 PM
For the record, Luke, Isaac, Neal, and I have deleted no posts and I'm really bothered that it's happening.
the SLAP illuminati is real then

Quote
(+ 8 Hidden) and 0 Guests are viewing this board.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 10, 2018, 07:35:13 PM
does JJ have Tates number?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: se7en3two on May 10, 2018, 07:54:55 PM
Secret tape calling him out now in the comments, "swastikas are not sick"

Chico commented on Sanchez's pic too! Shit's about to blow up

looks like someone even deleted the sanch screen shots from this thread

hectic

Maybe my post count wasnít high enough to allow that type thing. Guess I could repost, but the replies were deleted as well.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Bobby Peru on May 10, 2018, 07:57:01 PM
does JJ have Tates number?

Not Tate.

For the record, Luke, Isaac, Neal, and I have deleted no posts and I'm really bothered that it's happening.
the SLAP illuminati is real then

Quote
(+ 8 Hidden) and 0 Guests are viewing this board.

"Hidden" members are actually just regular ass posters who unchecked the box saying "show when I'm online." You can be a hidden member if you want.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: feedmeseymour on May 10, 2018, 08:01:35 PM
Oh man I guess my Charlottesville photoshop really pissed someone off.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 10, 2018, 08:04:12 PM
Oh man I guess my Charlottesville photoshop really pissed someone off.

i was bagging up. well done.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: DannyDee on May 10, 2018, 08:07:17 PM
The fact something that is actually documented in a magazine is getting deleted here is insane. Where there any threads like these that got taken down prior to 2018? This seems like a new development.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: the_unknown_soldier on May 10, 2018, 08:19:07 PM
People have started posting on Cons' Insta, including myself.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: TheVisitor on May 10, 2018, 08:20:33 PM
Seriously, wtf at the mod responsible for deleting all the threads.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: JAesop on May 10, 2018, 08:32:23 PM
Seriously, wtf at the mod responsible for deleting all the threads.


(http://i68.tinypic.com/10nx3dt.jpg)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: MexicanSpaniard on May 10, 2018, 08:33:30 PM
Seriously, wtf at the mod responsible for deleting all the threads.


(http://i68.tinypic.com/10nx3dt.jpg)

dingus is working hard today
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on May 10, 2018, 08:37:16 PM
When I do the middle finger, you can't see my other fingers.  Is that^ the cool guy way to give the middle finger? with half of your other fingers up?  I see hard core people give the finger in photos that way.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Telly on May 10, 2018, 09:02:52 PM
When I do the middle finger, you can't see my other fingers.  Is that^ the cool guy way to give the middle finger? with half of your other fingers up?  I see hard core people give the finger in photos that way.

My other fingers tend to meet up behind my hand, at least 3 of the 4.  If that's the way p-helper does it then I'll stick with my way. I do like the blood orange variety of the water he's drinking though.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on May 10, 2018, 09:08:39 PM
When I do the middle finger, you can't see my other fingers.  Is that^ the cool guy way to give the middle finger? with half of your other fingers up?  I see hard core people give the finger in photos that way.

My other fingers tend to meet up behind my hand, at least 3 of the 4.  If that's the way p-helper does it then I'll stick with my way. I do like the blood orange variety of the water he's drinking though.
  Fucking nestlie product.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Bumpovertrash on May 10, 2018, 09:17:21 PM
Fuck nazis and fuck nhs
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on May 10, 2018, 09:26:19 PM
People have started posting on Cons' Insta, including myself.
It's kinda of amazing that all of his sponsors pretend like that they didn't know about all of this
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: D. Bag on May 10, 2018, 09:30:34 PM
The fact something that is actually documented in a magazine is getting deleted here is insane. Where there any threads like these that got taken down prior to 2018? This seems like a new development.

Maybe, just maybe, it has to do with the fact that in the current era, some people think you deserve to be crucified for everything you ever did that was wrong, even if it was years or decades ago, and that you have to be shunned forever for anything offensive you did in the past.  Perhaps the mods don't care to be a part of that whole scenario, and occasionally delete threads that might be posted just to fuck someone's reputation long after the mistake was made, or, because some shit (like being judge/jury/executioner of someone based on an ex-girlfriends IG post without ever getting confirmation it was true) just shouldn't be out there, sometimes because it'll get your ass in legal hot water for encouraging posts that someone's a woman beater/rapist/whatever based on hearsay.

I mean, I read a story today about how some woman was accused of being racist, and rather than give actual proof, the accusers dug back into her records to find that in middle school, she was assigned by her teacher to be on the side of a debate that was to be the pro-slavery side - and to them, that means she's LITERALLY HITLER.  I mean, a decade plus later, people are trying to fuck her life up because they're mad at her now, so hey, let's find anything in her past that we can try to use to accuse her of something terrible (why not be mad at the teacher for making her be in a debate arguing in favor of slavery since that's the only reason it happened?), even if it's total bullshit?  But hey, why let facts get in the way of a good shit-stirring that can wreck someone's life?

Sometimes, mods make decent decisions to pull garbage that's full of accusations but short on proof.  Or, again, when perhaps something said years ago is not what that person would say now.  By the logic of being haunted forever, Corey Duffel should have been drummed out of the industry over a decade ago.  People say stupid shit, they change, and shouldn't always be crucified for the past as if that's who they always are.

/rant
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: oyolar on May 10, 2018, 09:37:44 PM
Did you not see the recent skateboard museum IG post of his jean jacket with a fucking swastika on it? That's not something a person who has 'moved on' would want out there unless it was given a shit ton of context and proof that it didn't represent their beliefs any more.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on May 10, 2018, 09:38:31 PM
The fact something that is actually documented in a magazine is getting deleted here is insane. Where there any threads like these that got taken down prior to 2018? This seems like a new development.

Maybe, just maybe, it has to do with the fact that in the current era, some people think you deserve to be crucified for everything you ever did that was wrong, even if it was years or decades ago, and that you have to be shunned forever for anything offensive you did in the past.  Perhaps the mods don't care to be a part of that whole scenario, and occasionally delete threads that might be posted just to fuck someone's reputation long after the mistake was made, or, because some shit (like being judge/jury/executioner of someone based on an ex-girlfriends IG post without ever getting confirmation it was true) just shouldn't be out there, sometimes because it'll get your ass in legal hot water for encouraging posts that someone's a woman beater/rapist/whatever based on hearsay.

I mean, I read a story today about how some woman was accused of being racist, and rather than give actual proof, the accusers dug back into her records to find that in middle school, she was assigned by her teacher to be on the side of a debate that was to be the pro-slavery side - and to them, that means she's LITERALLY HITLER.  I mean, a decade plus later, people are trying to fuck her life up because they're mad at her now, so hey, let's find anything in her past that we can try to use to accuse her of something terrible (why not be mad at the teacher for making her be in a debate arguing in favor of slavery since that's the only reason it happened?), even if it's total bullshit?  But hey, why let facts get in the way of a good shit-stirring that can wreck someone's life?

Sometimes, mods make decent decisions to pull garbage that's full of accusations but short on proof.  Or, again, when perhaps something said years ago is not what that person would say now.  By the logic of being haunted forever, Corey Duffel should have been drummed out of the industry over a decade ago.  People say stupid shit, they change, and shouldn't always be crucified for the past as if that's who they always are.

/rant
  They 'pulled' the proof .  -they deleted the fucking article where jesse spoke his mind.  The mods didn't delete any  accusations.  I'm not sure where your heads at with this.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 10, 2018, 10:10:02 PM
im curious why so many people are so quick to say this was all in the past and hes changed. the things that are posted are both in the past and recent. where is there any evidence that hes a changed person?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: D. Bag on May 10, 2018, 10:18:31 PM
Did you not see the recent skateboard museum IG post of his jean jacket with a fucking swastika on it?

Nope, don't do social media.  Wouldn't know.

By the way, was there a date attached to when he wore that jacket?  You mention "skateboard museum" - implying that perhaps this was something from a long time ago.  I find it pretty difficult to imagine that JJ is running around LARPing as a nazi these days and still finding anyone in the biz who would touch him with a ten foot pole, but then again, I still believe that people can say/do stupid shit in the past and distance themselves from it in the future.  Maybe you don't, so be it, but then, you would deserve to be judged on every shitty thing you ever did, are you ready to live by those same standards?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: D. Bag on May 10, 2018, 10:19:52 PM
where is there any evidence that hes a changed person?

Where is there any evidence he hasn't?

Can't have it one way without the other. Why not ask him yourself on your preferred social media channel and see what he says.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: D. Bag on May 10, 2018, 10:27:14 PM
The fact something that is actually documented in a magazine is getting deleted here is insane. Where there any threads like these that got taken down prior to 2018? This seems like a new development.

Maybe, just maybe, it has to do with the fact that in the current era, some people think you deserve to be crucified for everything you ever did that was wrong, even if it was years or decades ago, and that you have to be shunned forever for anything offensive you did in the past.  Perhaps the mods don't care to be a part of that whole scenario, and occasionally delete threads that might be posted just to fuck someone's reputation long after the mistake was made, or, because some shit (like being judge/jury/executioner of someone based on an ex-girlfriends IG post without ever getting confirmation it was true) just shouldn't be out there, sometimes because it'll get your ass in legal hot water for encouraging posts that someone's a woman beater/rapist/whatever based on hearsay.

I mean, I read a story today about how some woman was accused of being racist, and rather than give actual proof, the accusers dug back into her records to find that in middle school, she was assigned by her teacher to be on the side of a debate that was to be the pro-slavery side - and to them, that means she's LITERALLY HITLER.  I mean, a decade plus later, people are trying to fuck her life up because they're mad at her now, so hey, let's find anything in her past that we can try to use to accuse her of something terrible (why not be mad at the teacher for making her be in a debate arguing in favor of slavery since that's the only reason it happened?), even if it's total bullshit?  But hey, why let facts get in the way of a good shit-stirring that can wreck someone's life?

Sometimes, mods make decent decisions to pull garbage that's full of accusations but short on proof.  Or, again, when perhaps something said years ago is not what that person would say now.  By the logic of being haunted forever, Corey Duffel should have been drummed out of the industry over a decade ago.  People say stupid shit, they change, and shouldn't always be crucified for the past as if that's who they always are.

/rant
  They 'pulled' the proof .  -they deleted the fucking article where jesse spoke his mind.  The mods didn't delete any  accusations.  I'm not sure where your heads at with this.

Well, since I read the article once when it was posted and am not going back over to it again and again, perhaps you need to take it up with the magazine who pulled it and ask them specifically WHY they did.  I had thought from an earlier post that someone said the mods here did some pulling, but if not, then I'm incorrect.  Won't hesitate to admit if I made a mistake on that.

Really, it's not that tough to stand up and ask some questions to whoever you think is "hiding" things that can't really be hidden, or, if you want to know what JJ thinks to this day.  If the mag that had the article pulled it, then write/call/carrier pigeon/whatever works, contact them and ask (in a tone that's not being hyper-emotional and shouting about evil Nazis and shit right out the gate) what gives.  JJ doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would give you the run-around if you found a way to ask him what he believes in right this very moment, why not give it a shot?  Never has it been so easy to reach out and get answers if you want, but goddamn, seems a lot of people would just prefer to bitch in circles and assume everything every time.  I mean, why not get the straight dope and put it to bed if this is something driving people insane?  Or, we could just turn it into a 20-page thread of hypotheses, either way, if I don't see JJ wearing that stuff now or saying the shit he did years ago, I won't automatically assume he's goose stepping around his living room with a picture of Der Fuhrer on his wall.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: smokecrack on May 10, 2018, 10:30:59 PM
So I dm'd Jason Jesse asking him why he was a neo-Nazi and he instantly blocked me. I can't stand when a racist person simply won't own up to it. They want to live a normal day-to-day life while secretly feeling superior to other races.

Whoever knew about this over at Converse and Santa Cruz are a bunch of enablers themselves. All of you white people who turn a blind eye when seeing one of your own pull this racist shit are total cowards.

I am utterly disgusted by how something so blatantly hateful could be swept under the rug by an industry that prides itself on being inclusive, progressive, and color-blind.

We can make a difference by speaking up on this and by better choosing what brands we support. Maybe we shouldn't buy from companies who sponsor racists, women abusers, homophobes, rapists, etc. Let's hurt them financially and boycott them.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: bo bice on May 10, 2018, 10:47:30 PM
man Jason Jesse is gonna be so pissed when he finds out the color of the people that make those shoes
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: IHOP on May 10, 2018, 10:59:47 PM
The fact something that is actually documented in a magazine is getting deleted here is insane. Where there any threads like these that got taken down prior to 2018? This seems like a new development.

Maybe, just maybe, it has to do with the fact that in the current era, some people think you deserve to be crucified for everything you ever did that was wrong, even if it was years or decades ago, and that you have to be shunned forever for anything offensive you did in the past.  Perhaps the mods don't care to be a part of that whole scenario, and occasionally delete threads that might be posted just to fuck someone's reputation long after the mistake was made, or, because some shit (like being judge/jury/executioner of someone based on an ex-girlfriends IG post without ever getting confirmation it was true) just shouldn't be out there, sometimes because it'll get your ass in legal hot water for encouraging posts that someone's a woman beater/rapist/whatever based on hearsay.

I mean, I read a story today about how some woman was accused of being racist, and rather than give actual proof, the accusers dug back into her records to find that in middle school, she was assigned by her teacher to be on the side of a debate that was to be the pro-slavery side - and to them, that means she's LITERALLY HITLER.  I mean, a decade plus later, people are trying to fuck her life up because they're mad at her now, so hey, let's find anything in her past that we can try to use to accuse her of something terrible (why not be mad at the teacher for making her be in a debate arguing in favor of slavery since that's the only reason it happened?), even if it's total bullshit?  But hey, why let facts get in the way of a good shit-stirring that can wreck someone's life?

Sometimes, mods make decent decisions to pull garbage that's full of accusations but short on proof.  Or, again, when perhaps something said years ago is not what that person would say now.  By the logic of being haunted forever, Corey Duffel should have been drummed out of the industry over a decade ago.  People say stupid shit, they change, and shouldn't always be crucified for the past as if that's who they always are.

/rant

Yo dickhead I've already said i know all parties involved in the incident, but somehow you want more proof than multiple sources and photos.  Daryl has ben a piece long before this, even without that you think a girl just posts a black eye and writes paragraphs about emotional abuse she has endured just for fun?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on May 10, 2018, 11:52:14 PM
Henry deleted his post!
Heavy shit...
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: verylowimpact on May 11, 2018, 12:20:18 AM
Henry deleted his post!
Heavy shit...

Pretty disappointed with Sanch tbh. 
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on May 11, 2018, 12:27:30 AM
Henry deleted his post!
Heavy shit...

Pretty disappointed with Sanch tbh. 
anyone on here close enough to him to PM him about why? Nice dig and it seems like he was genuinely pissed about so why did he go back on it?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: somethingmustbreaknow on May 11, 2018, 12:31:34 AM
where is the thread?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Mystical Leader on May 11, 2018, 01:14:23 AM
I feel like we want make a change we need to hit up a different media outlet let say if Huntington post would an article it might have so chance.. Or some angry mom to hit up a higher cons executive like when hewitt shat on some ones face..

Ps. Fuck jason jessee or every other nazi
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Silky Johnson on May 11, 2018, 01:23:09 AM
People have started posting on Cons' Insta, including myself.
I didn't see anything, maybe they're deleting comments?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Burt Ward on May 11, 2018, 01:36:26 AM
does JJ have Tates number?

Not Tate.

For the record, Luke, Isaac, Neal, and I have deleted no posts and I'm really bothered that it's happening.
the SLAP illuminati is real then

Quote
(+ 8 Hidden) and 0 Guests are viewing this board.

"Hidden" members are actually just regular ass posters who unchecked the box saying "show when I'm online." You can be a hidden member if you want.

I'm hidden now cos I was embarrassed by how much I was on here.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Zurg on May 11, 2018, 01:55:53 AM
fuck this dude and the people sticking up for him. he aint buddhist and he definitely knows what goes along with that imagery. as people pointed out some of the references are recent/he doesnt seem to be distancing himself from wack shit like swastikas. kinda embarrassed by indy's iron cross too. cant believe corp converse would back this guy. nothing cool about being a nazi, pretend or otherwise
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Hevonen on May 11, 2018, 02:48:45 AM
Skate industry trying to sweep these things (Daryl, JJ) under the rug is so fucking unsettling. People get blacklisted from the industry for all kinds of dumb reasons, yet this type of of actually fucked up shit gets covered. Weirdest part is that neither of these dudes are even key people in the industry. Ok jj is probably the only thing bringing money to santa cruz but other than that I don't see why anyone would care if he got thrown out, and Daryl is a c-list pro and habitat would probably get more sales for kicking of a woman beater.

My prediction is that neither of these people will address these things in any way and they will be in the industry for years if shit doesn't get blown out on a bigger scale. The olympics and these dudes being on nike could get this thing more attention if some big news outlet made an article. Skateboarding media is so afraid for their jobs that they're not gonna be asking any hard hitting questions
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: somethingmustbreaknow on May 11, 2018, 03:00:28 AM
i'm a little bit disturbed by the recent confusion
and ambiguities of once clear cut abbreviations.
for one, JJ translates to Jake Johnson, and not
to jason jesse. additionally, SP corresponds to
Shawn Powers and not to sean pablo. feel free
to discuss if you have objections, but as far as
i remember these're agreed upon SLAP-termini.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: violentpizza on May 11, 2018, 03:14:09 AM
lets hope no one on here ever does anything stupid or says stupid ass shit...the real question is when you see him will you say something or will you be too busy waiting for a signature? too many people talk and not act. skateboarding is soft
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 11, 2018, 04:03:06 AM
santa cruz is going to harm skateboarding if they keep covering this up

the story is going outside of skateboarding and the nazi shit is 100% despicable

in this post alone we have proof of jason jessee being a nazi in the 1980s, the 1990s, and the 2000s. and sadly, proof of a cover up.

this is ongoing and nhs knows it. that breaks my heart the most

if this post ultimately gets deleted then i will see you other posters on instagram or youtube and if you ever come through delaware hmu lets go skate
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: se7en3two on May 11, 2018, 04:10:41 AM
People have started posting on Cons' Insta, including myself.
I didn't see anything, maybe they're deleting comments?

Comments are still there, check the first pic of him on the Cons page.

Either way, itís damage control by anyone pushing is product. Far too much money invested in this clown, when there isnít a statute of limitations on being a racist. Clearly he had enough balls to let it go to print, at some point everyone reaps what they sow.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: feedmeseymour on May 11, 2018, 05:16:39 AM
censorship is so fucking weak, i had to repost.
(http://i63.tinypic.com/29wyva.jpg)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: lampshade on May 11, 2018, 05:54:43 AM
fuck this dude and the people sticking up for him. he aint buddhist and he definitely knows what goes along with that imagery. as people pointed out some of the references are recent/he doesnt seem to be distancing himself from wack shit like swastikas. kinda embarrassed by indy's iron cross too. cant believe corp converse would back this guy. nothing cool about being a nazi, pretend or otherwise

I've ridden Indy's for a decade or two.  Damn.  Never really thought about the cross.  I've had shirts and stuff.  I hope no one ever misinterpreted them.  The only real life beef I've ever had with an Indy shirt was with a wasted sorority girl in college at a fraternity party. 

In college greek culture, GDI (God Damn Independent) is a way to describe people not involved in greek life.  I had an Indy shirt on and she started joking with me about it meaning, "GDI." 
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: oyolar on May 11, 2018, 06:00:35 AM
Did you not see the recent skateboard museum IG post of his jean jacket with a fucking swastika on it?

Nope, don't do social media.  Wouldn't know.

By the way, was there a date attached to when he wore that jacket?  You mention "skateboard museum" - implying that perhaps this was something from a long time ago.  I find it pretty difficult to imagine that JJ is running around LARPing as a nazi these days and still finding anyone in the biz who would touch him with a ten foot pole, but then again, I still believe that people can say/do stupid shit in the past and distance themselves from it in the future.  Maybe you don't, so be it, but then, you would deserve to be judged on every shitty thing you ever did, are you ready to live by those same standards?

I believe that people can do and say stupid shit in the past and move beyond it but I need to see them say and show how they have moved beyond it. Not addressing it at all and letting people post images of your swastika patch with no explanation is the exact opposite of that.

And you're offering a lot of explanations and defense for Jessee for someone who doesn't have social media and therefore doesn't have the entire context of what people are using as evidence. The post was explicitly mentioned as having recent photos (within a day or so) and yes, it didn't specify when he last wore that jacket but like I said initially, it's not a good sign that he'd let them take and post that photo without including some very heavy and explicit disavowal if he had actually changed.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: SodaJerk on May 11, 2018, 06:11:22 AM
Anyone requiring more evidence or more recent evidence of behaviour such as this or victimising women should be aware that someone who no longer supports these beliefs and actions would make it very clear and public that they have "changed".

It's a common PR technique to "never complain, never explain" and wait until it blows over and let the powers that be perform a media scrub. Until Jason answers to this it's safe to assume he's still into it.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: sharkin on May 11, 2018, 06:14:10 AM
i'm a little bit disturbed by the recent confusion
and ambiguities of once clear cut abbreviations.
for one, JJ translates to Jake Johnson, and not
to jason jesse. additionally, SP corresponds to
Shawn Powers and not to sean pablo. feel free
to discuss if you have objections, but as far as
i remember these're agreed upon SLAP-termini.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who finds this recent development rather unsettling

Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on May 11, 2018, 06:21:39 AM
The fact something that is actually documented in a magazine is getting deleted here is insane. Where there any threads like these that got taken down prior to 2018? This seems like a new development.

Maybe, just maybe, it has to do with the fact that in the current era, some people think you deserve to be crucified for everything you ever did that was wrong, even if it was years or decades ago, and that you have to be shunned forever for anything offensive you did in the past.  Perhaps the mods don't care to be a part of that whole scenario, and occasionally delete threads that might be posted just to fuck someone's reputation long after the mistake was made, or, because some shit (like being judge/jury/executioner of someone based on an ex-girlfriends IG post without ever getting confirmation it was true) just shouldn't be out there, sometimes because it'll get your ass in legal hot water for encouraging posts that someone's a woman beater/rapist/whatever based on hearsay.

I mean, I read a story today about how some woman was accused of being racist, and rather than give actual proof, the accusers dug back into her records to find that in middle school, she was assigned by her teacher to be on the side of a debate that was to be the pro-slavery side - and to them, that means she's LITERALLY HITLER.  I mean, a decade plus later, people are trying to fuck her life up because they're mad at her now, so hey, let's find anything in her past that we can try to use to accuse her of something terrible (why not be mad at the teacher for making her be in a debate arguing in favor of slavery since that's the only reason it happened?), even if it's total bullshit?  But hey, why let facts get in the way of a good shit-stirring that can wreck someone's life?

Sometimes, mods make decent decisions to pull garbage that's full of accusations but short on proof.  Or, again, when perhaps something said years ago is not what that person would say now.  By the logic of being haunted forever, Corey Duffel should have been drummed out of the industry over a decade ago.  People say stupid shit, they change, and shouldn't always be crucified for the past as if that's who they always are.

/rant
  They 'pulled' the proof .  -they deleted the fucking article where jesse spoke his mind.  The mods didn't delete any  accusations.  I'm not sure where your heads at with this.

Well, since I read the article once when it was posted and am not going back over to it again and again, perhaps you need to take it up with the magazine who pulled it and ask them specifically WHY they did.  I had thought from an earlier post that someone said the mods here did some pulling, but if not, then I'm incorrect.  Won't hesitate to admit if I made a mistake on that.

Really, it's not that tough to stand up and ask some questions to whoever you think is "hiding" things that can't really be hidden, or, if you want to know what JJ thinks to this day.  If the mag that had the article pulled it, then write/call/carrier pigeon/whatever works, contact them and ask (in a tone that's not being hyper-emotional and shouting about evil Nazis and shit right out the gate) what gives.  JJ doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would give you the run-around if you found a way to ask him what he believes in right this very moment, why not give it a shot?  Never has it been so easy to reach out and get answers if you want, but goddamn, seems a lot of people would just prefer to bitch in circles and assume everything every time.  I mean, why not get the straight dope and put it to bed if this is something driving people insane?  Or, we could just turn it into a 20-page thread of hypotheses, either way, if I don't see JJ wearing that stuff now or saying the shit he did years ago, I won't automatically assume he's goose stepping around his living room with a picture of Der Fuhrer on his wall.
  My favorite skater when I was a kid was Jason Jesse.  I've been hoping for years he'd clear this racist stuff up that people keep bringing up.  But he never did, instead he just keeps wearing the shit.  That was his choice and now the meal ticket might be threatened. So be it.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: fang on May 11, 2018, 06:33:49 AM
censorship is so fucking weak, i had to repost.
(http://i63.tinypic.com/29wyva.jpg)

Had to say GANG ! again to this piece of art
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: fickdiepolizei666 on May 11, 2018, 06:34:39 AM
censorship is so fucking weak, i had to repost.
(http://i63.tinypic.com/29wyva.jpg)

i don't get why shecks is in there, guilty by association? i am not a fan of his at all ,but let's not predict something on someone just because he's the son and brother of some dipshits, or did i miss something?? otherwise loving the picture
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: fongool on May 11, 2018, 06:38:04 AM
Accountability for stuff like this in the skateboard industry is virtually non-existant. Having direct beef with one of the gatekeepers is pretty much the only way one would get kooked out of the sponsorship game.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: feedmeseymour on May 11, 2018, 06:45:39 AM
censorship is so fucking weak, i had to repost.
(http://i63.tinypic.com/29wyva.jpg)

i don't get why shecks is in there, guilty by association? i am not a fan of his at all ,but let's not predict something on someone just because he's the son and brother of some dipshits, or did i miss something?? otherwise loving the picture
actually agree with you, this was just a joke and a stupid one at that, no i dont think any of these dudes are out there with torches and pitchforks, and i doubt shecks is about that life but concerning the post about his brother i figured it would add to the mediocre joke
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Jared on May 11, 2018, 06:58:45 AM
what a boring ass top/thread
Nice username. Good to know that you're a sympathizer on top of being a boring ass loser.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: ChuckRamone on May 11, 2018, 07:04:01 AM
never trust a man with two first names. it would be cool if more people had two last names like henderson gunderson or mcallister oíreilly or goodhouse wodehouse.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: the_unknown_soldier on May 11, 2018, 07:18:53 AM
People have started posting on Cons' Insta, including myself.
I didn't see anything, maybe they're deleting comments?

Looks like they're still there.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BiUUt5yHxEj/?taken-by=converse_cons


where is there any evidence that hes a changed person?

Where is there any evidence he hasn't?

Can't have it one way without the other. Why not ask him yourself on your preferred social media channel and see what he says.

I think it's super fair judgement to say fuck anybody and everybody who sports that Nazi shit, especially in their adulthood.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: fickdiepolizei666 on May 11, 2018, 07:20:25 AM
censorship is so fucking weak, i had to repost.
(http://i63.tinypic.com/29wyva.jpg)

i don't get why shecks is in there, guilty by association? i am not a fan of his at all ,but let's not predict something on someone just because he's the son and brother of some dipshits, or did i miss something?? otherwise loving the picture
actually agree with you, this was just a joke and a stupid one at that, no i dont think any of these dudes are out there with torches and pitchforks, and i doubt shecks is about that life but concerning the post about his brother i figured it would add to the mediocre joke

even though i am german, i do get that this is a joke haha

Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 11, 2018, 07:39:25 AM
where is there any evidence that hes a changed person?

Where is there any evidence he hasn't?

Can't have it one way without the other. Why not ask him yourself on your preferred social media channel and see what he says.

if just read this thread you will see things from just a few days ago where he is posing with racists bands memorabilia and a jacket with a swazi on it.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: StepDude on May 11, 2018, 07:41:53 AM

Legends - Gator

Pro - JJ , TNT, Daryl, Chase Webb, Mario Saenz

Am - Baby Scumbag

Filmer - Cody Green

Deceased riders - Jay Boy
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 11, 2018, 08:37:37 AM
kinda embarrassed by indy's iron cross too

I've ridden Indy's for a decade or two.  Damn.  Never really thought about the cross.  I've had shirts and stuff. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Truck_Company

Quote
The iconic logo for the trucks was based on the Iron Cross according to legendary skateboard illustrator Jim Phillips, who created the design. It has remained the Independent logo since the company's inception.

Jim Phillips says in his 2007 book "The Art of Jim Phillips":

"...I began toying with the iron, or Maltese cross which was long dead as the old 60s surfer's cross, and even longer dead as the biker's cross. I used a beam compass to make it into a round shape, which looked completely different than the old square iron crosses... I took my idea into the NHS office the next morning and it went on the wall as usual. Jay and Rich each stared at it for a while, and they both thought that it looked a little too "Nazi". My sketches were rejected and I was sent back to the drawing board. I went back to my studio determined to use it, knowing it was the one. I searched my archives and scrap file for some justification for using the symbol. I found a firefighter's logo, symbols on the knights and Columbus sails. Then in my scrap file, under the letter P, I found a Time magazine cover of Pope John Paul from the June 18,1979 edition. It was amazing; there was a cross on his vestments almost the way I designed mine. I marched into the office the next morning with the magazine to show what I thought was proof of acceptability. They both looked at each other and said, 'Well, if the Pope has it, it must be okay!' That was that, and the Independent cross was born."

...indy is literally a nazi company...

(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/31948643_10156436037322853_218140976646979584_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=AeGnfWVYNWYC1fvUUelyAHD9FCfATUvJlfab64kjYJn1LQy9lCxiNyU5TzoyH-0ZvAcm1x0f1_tkv4KWUwKbHFIXYOe79zZzFbLHMxEVzsTaBA&oh=ea3c3f987ac28f10412be5c86ea98fc2&oe=5B9BA143)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: DannyDee on May 11, 2018, 08:40:49 AM

Legends - Gator

Pro - JJ , TNT, Daryl, Chase Webb, Mario Saenz

Am - Baby Scumbag

Filmer - Cody Green

Deceased riders - Jay Boy
Why do Nyjah and Loy get rape passes?

Also add Ben Pappas to deceased.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: StepDude on May 11, 2018, 08:41:47 AM
they can be flow. . I don't care
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: saucy ragu on May 11, 2018, 08:42:54 AM

Legends - Gator

Pro - JJ , TNT, Daryl, Chase Webb, Mario Saenz

Am - Baby Scumbag

Filmer - Cody Green

Deceased riders - Jay Boy
Why do Nyjah and Loy get rape passes?

Also add Ben Pappas to deceased.

What are the stories surrounding Cody Green & Mario Saenz? I've never heard of Mario.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: GAY on May 11, 2018, 08:55:48 AM
Stress headaches look dope, yo!
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Roisto on May 11, 2018, 09:13:55 AM
Stress headaches look dope, yo!

A comforting and protective wraparound! Too bad I don't get headaches even if I'm stressed out as fuck. 🤔


Edit: Also fuck Jason Jessee, Hard Luck, Cons and Santa Cruz. Definitely spray painting my Jason Jessee cruiser board with something more positive than some racist Nazi sympathiser graphic and never buying anything from companies that support him.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: shitcunt on May 11, 2018, 09:22:25 AM
I wasn't about to buy cons cause I don't want heel bruises or to look like a band kid. This just firms that up in my mind. Also I've gotten the boot from the ledges nearby their headquarters numerous times, which is both annoying and funny to me. Talk about culture vultures. As for Santa Cruz and hard luck, well nobody buys that shut anyway.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Xen on May 11, 2018, 09:38:04 AM
I wasn't about to buy cons cause I don't want heel bruises or to look like a band kid. This just firms that up in my mind. Also I've gotten the boot from the ledges nearby their headquarters numerous times, which is both annoying and funny to me. Talk about culture vultures. As for Santa Cruz and hard luck, well nobody buys that shit anyway.

I was going to post that as well.

Also, give up your MOB grip, it's NHS, they founded SC and back him...give up your Creature, Krux, Ricta as well (not that many buy it ;).
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: mex.ceferino on May 11, 2018, 09:38:32 AM

Legends - Gator

Pro - JJ , TNT, Daryl, Chase Webb, Mario Saenz

Am - Baby Scumbag

Filmer - Cody Green

Deceased riders - Jay Boy
Why do Nyjah and Loy get rape passes?

Also add Ben Pappas to deceased.

What are the stories surrounding Cody Green & Mario Saenz? I've never heard of Mario.
Mario is accused of murdering her girlfriend and leaving her at the hotel room's bathtub they stayed in on her birthday, followed by his disappearing and prosecution for months, then resurfacing with a video declaring his "innocence" through some vlogger kook. Mexican skaters are divided with his side saying "she was a troubled girl hanging with the wrong crowd so she had it coming. Mario's innocent"
and others are pissed, like myself, that yet another fucking femicide is sadly swept under the rug in this country and that Mario's full of shit.

http://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=96505.msg2745189#msg2745189
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: verylowimpact on May 11, 2018, 09:45:40 AM
The skateboard industry is owned and ran by white men. How is any of this 'sweeping under' a surprise?!
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Number on May 11, 2018, 09:46:22 AM
Henry deleted his post!
Heavy shit...

Pretty disappointed with Sanch tbh.

Which post? His comment on the Thrasher JJ Purple part post is still there.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 11, 2018, 09:49:23 AM
I wasn't about to buy cons cause I don't want heel bruises or to look like a band kid. This just firms that up in my mind. Also I've gotten the boot from the ledges nearby their headquarters numerous times, which is both annoying and funny to me. Talk about culture vultures. As for Santa Cruz and hard luck, well nobody buys that shit anyway.

I was going to post that as well.

Also, give up your MOB grip, it's NHS, they founded SC and back him...give up your Creature, Krux, Ricta as well (not that many buy it ;).

i am going to be frank, it is damn near impossible for an active skater to boycott ermico/high speed productions/nhs/thrasher/deluxe

they got their finger in all the pies. might be nazis all the way to the top.

for the record right now i skate a set of thunder 147s. everything else is locally sourced. a pair of thunders last me 5 years. maybe longer because now i am an old man.

i've been skating since 1979. i am 44 years old. i still skate every week. i saw everything go down in skateboarding and i remember it all.

skateboarding is an invitation to be your best. to be a better person every time you open your eyes.

if you skate, i love you.

if you hate, clean out your heart and lets be friends.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 11, 2018, 09:50:51 AM
Henry deleted his post!
Heavy shit...

Pretty disappointed with Sanch tbh.

Which post? His comment on the Thrasher JJ Purple part post is still there.

i don't blame henry for deleting it. that jason jessee interview is some hardbody racist shit. i wouldn't want my wife and my aunts and everybody seeing that on my personal profile. its hectic.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: heliocentric bananas on May 11, 2018, 09:51:39 AM
I wasn't about to buy cons cause I don't want heel bruises or to look like a band kid. This just firms that up in my mind. Also I've gotten the boot from the ledges nearby their headquarters numerous times, which is both annoying and funny to me. Talk about culture vultures. As for Santa Cruz and hard luck, well nobody buys that shut anyway.

haha the ones under the bridge in boston? or right on the water? ive skated all around their shit in boston and never had a problem
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: tortfeasor on May 11, 2018, 09:55:57 AM
I wasn't about to buy cons cause I don't want heel bruises or to look like a band kid. This just firms that up in my mind. Also I've gotten the boot from the ledges nearby their headquarters numerous times, which is both annoying and funny to me. Talk about culture vultures. As for Santa Cruz and hard luck, well nobody buys that shut anyway.

haha the ones under the bridge in boston? or right on the water? ive skated all around their shit in boston and never had a problem

if you are talking about rainbow, its pretty much impossible to get kicked out of that spot.  i feel like you would have to try (also fun story... i smoked a joint with a guy whose nephew really did know tony hawk there).  he must be talking the ones on the harbor walk.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: eranka on May 11, 2018, 09:58:40 AM
fuck this dude and the people sticking up for him. he aint buddhist and he definitely knows what goes along with that imagery. as people pointed out some of the references are recent/he doesnt seem to be distancing himself from wack shit like swastikas. kinda embarrassed by indy's iron cross too. cant believe corp converse would back this guy. nothing cool about being a nazi, pretend or otherwise

I've ridden Indy's for a decade or two.  Damn.  Never really thought about the cross.  I've had shirts and stuff.  I hope no one ever misinterpreted them.  The only real life beef I've ever had with an Indy shirt was with a wasted sorority girl in college at a fraternity party. 

In college greek culture, GDI (God Damn Independent) is a way to describe people not involved in greek life.  I had an Indy shirt on and she started joking with me about it meaning, "GDI."
Dont trip about it. I live in a place where Swastikas are hella frowned upon and the only comment i got about an independent shirt was a girl asking me if i was christian
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 11, 2018, 10:07:37 AM
i decided a while back i wont buy any more independent stuff after my current trucks are done and it sucks because they are good.

im 40 and also grew up skating in delaware. i helped start the newport park.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 11, 2018, 10:17:07 AM
i decided a while back i wont buy any more independent stuff after my current trucks are done and it sucks because they are good.

im 40 and also grew up skating in delaware. i helped start the newport park.

i helped put the sheet metal on their vert ramp during the first iteration of that spot

i also won a street contest there in the 1990s and won this amazing tshirt

https://www.instagram.com/p/BVulcz5hxjW/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BVulcz5hxjW/)

Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: cosmicgypsies on May 11, 2018, 10:18:25 AM
everyones gonna go back to riding and wearing whatever the fuck they want a week after this thread dies
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: heliocentric bananas on May 11, 2018, 11:20:34 AM
I wasn't about to buy cons cause I don't want heel bruises or to look like a band kid. This just firms that up in my mind. Also I've gotten the boot from the ledges nearby their headquarters numerous times, which is both annoying and funny to me. Talk about culture vultures. As for Santa Cruz and hard luck, well nobody buys that shut anyway.

haha the ones under the bridge in boston? or right on the water? ive skated all around their shit in boston and never had a problem

if you are talking about rainbow, its pretty much impossible to get kicked out of that spot.  i feel like you would have to try (also fun story... i smoked a joint with a guy whose nephew really did know tony hawk there).  he must be talking the ones on the harbor walk.

Speaking of converse, love how Vans just gave the middle finger to Converse and built Lynch Skatepark right by their HQ. van doren giving back to his home city more than cons ever has
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: jc on May 11, 2018, 11:23:15 AM
everyones gonna go back to riding and wearing whatever the fuck they want a week after this thread dies


right? selective anger.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: midevilco on May 11, 2018, 11:32:09 AM
Normally I'm against the combing of history to find stuff that is now considered offensive, but this shit is so egregious that it is different. It was offensive then, it is offensive now.

Skateboarding has had it's fair share of racial incidents, most of which are long forgotten by everyone not on Slap, (Reynolds/Gershon, Oyola at EMB, Corey Duffel etc.) and I'd like to think each of these guys has learned from it and grown as a person. Can't say the same about JJ. 

Been skating since '96, Jason Jessee has been milking it the entire run. Don't remember a single piece of footage, (not that I was seeking it out), there is so little, he makes Gino look productive.

With that said, it is funny this all comes out right now, timed up with the release of the Cons video, when it has been floating around for years. Seems like strange timing, and I'm all for it. Skateboard industry needs to retire 90% of the 40+ year old "legendary" pros, and focus their energy and marketing on the new cats who rip, and deserve a shoe way more than some biker trash from Santa Cruz. 
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Robert Baratheon on May 11, 2018, 11:36:25 AM
Was it was confirmed that Reynolds used the n-word to Gershon? I thought he was just talking shit to him and got popped.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on May 11, 2018, 11:44:14 AM
Was it was confirmed that Reynolds used the n-word to Gershon? I thought he was just talking shit to him and got popped.
  Yes he did.  But look at Reynolds and his teams.  With hardluck all you get is Chima.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on May 11, 2018, 11:54:40 AM
  Maybe the lowrider people that Jesse is affiliated with reached out to sanch about his post.  Super unlikely but you never know. 
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: se7en3two on May 11, 2018, 11:59:03 AM
Was it was confirmed that Reynolds used the n-word to Gershon? I thought he was just talking shit to him and got popped.
  Yes he did.  But look at Reynolds and his teams.  With hardluck all you get is Chima.

I thought Gershon himself said, he never heard that from Reynolds mouth. Their beef started over weed, no?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: streetsoup on May 11, 2018, 11:59:50 AM
I wasn't about to buy cons cause I don't want heel bruises or to look like a band kid. This just firms that up in my mind. Also I've gotten the boot from the ledges nearby their headquarters numerous times, which is both annoying and funny to me. Talk about culture vultures. As for Santa Cruz and hard luck, well nobody buys that shit anyway.

I was going to post that as well.

Also, give up your MOB grip, it's NHS, they founded SC and back him...give up your Creature, Krux, Ricta as well (not that many buy it ;).

Oh no what ever will we do?!
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on May 11, 2018, 12:03:55 PM
Was it was confirmed that Reynolds used the n-word to Gershon? I thought he was just talking shit to him and got popped.
  Yes he did.  But look at Reynolds and his teams.  With hardluck all you get is Chima.

I thought Gershon himself said, he never heard that from Reynolds mouth. Their beef started over weed, no?
  Shit, his version is archived  here, maybe ur right.  Seemed like after the incident the industry walked away with Reynolds under their wing and left big bad scary Gershon out in the piss rain.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: fang on May 11, 2018, 12:08:06 PM
 Reynolds talks about gershon incident on chrome ball.
Gershon talks about it on 48 blocks

Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: DannyDee on May 11, 2018, 12:11:27 PM
The skateboard industry is owned and ran by white men. How is any of this 'sweeping under' a surprise?!
Unless you want to talk about corporate shoe companies, the most powerful people in skateboarding are of Argentinian descent and how people from Latin America are classified tends to vary.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 11, 2018, 12:14:00 PM
argentina? isnt that where a bunch of nazis went to hide? maybe your own to something. lol
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: pajaro_loco on May 11, 2018, 12:18:47 PM
I always thought something was off about this puto. 100% KOOK!
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: DannyDee on May 11, 2018, 12:20:54 PM
argentina? isnt that where a bunch of nazis went to hide? maybe your own to something. lol
I'd think if the Vitello's were hiding in Argentina, it would be due to being fascists.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: gollum mcjinglemeballs on May 11, 2018, 01:09:37 PM
  To anyone curious about the Hells Angels should check out Hunter S. Thompson's Hellís Angels: The Strange and Terrible Saga of the Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs. From what I remember he goes into explaining the Nazi imagery somewhat. I think there's some similarities with early skateboard culture. It's also good for understanding our current political climate as this article does a better job of explaining then I could:

https://www.thenation.com/article/this-political-theorist-predicted-the-rise-of-trumpism-his-name-was-hunter-s-thompson/
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Chavo on May 11, 2018, 01:23:42 PM
  To anyone curious about the Hells Angels should check out Hunter S. Thompson's Hellís Angels: The Strange and Terrible Saga of the Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs. From what I remember he goes into explaining the Nazi imagery somewhat. I think there's some similarities with early skateboard culture. It's also good for understanding our current political climate as this article does a better job of explaining then I could:

https://www.thenation.com/article/this-political-theorist-predicted-the-rise-of-trumpism-his-name-was-hunter-s-thompson/

It's a good book and I agree with the many similarities to skateboarding. The Hells Angeles were well aware of the connotations of using swastikas (the original founders were WWII vets) but still wanted to offend people without subscribing to the ideology. The car and surf cultures during the '60s were light versions of the same idea and the ensuing skate culture was pretty much a soft version of Nazi-Lite. It's a bit surprising that this is being made a big deal now since this has been common knowledge for a long time (Jason Jessee Hitler phase, etc.)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: streetsoup on May 11, 2018, 01:28:39 PM
This is the type of thread that makes my Friday shift fly by.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: GinosGroceries on May 11, 2018, 01:52:45 PM
everyones gonna go back to riding and wearing whatever the fuck they want a week after this thread dies


right? selective anger.
I wouldn't be so sure. Skaters hold grudges. At least I do lol.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: GAY on May 11, 2018, 01:54:48 PM
Does this mean I shouldn't cruise the boardwalk on my Santa Cruz longboard anymore?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: L33Tg33k on May 11, 2018, 02:00:06 PM
I wasn't about to buy cons cause I don't want heel bruises or to look like a band kid. This just firms that up in my mind. Also I've gotten the boot from the ledges nearby their headquarters numerous times, which is both annoying and funny to me. Talk about culture vultures. As for Santa Cruz and hard luck, well nobody buys that shit anyway.

I was going to post that as well.

Also, give up your MOB grip, it's NHS, they founded SC and back him...give up your Creature, Krux, Ricta as well (not that many buy it ;).
As a person that works at a beach everyday I can tell you unequivocally that Santa Cruz sells very well. Yeah, it's mostly clothes, surfboards, and longboards, but I've seen a fair amount of regular boards too. I saw two dudes with Hard Luck tshirts today. Point is those brands have more reach than you guys think.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Surf-goth on May 11, 2018, 02:06:29 PM
I already boycotted converse because of what they did to the canadian program and then to us here in shops. Only ever bought them because jake johnson and pontus convinced me it was alright speaking of which why is pontus of ? I thought he and cons were intertwined.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Ghost Face Nigga on May 11, 2018, 02:17:14 PM
i remember one time i saw some video, i think it was an epicly later'd where Alex Olsen was saying how he met up with gonz once and he had a swastika on his board and Alex was basically like dude your bugging and gonz said something along the lines of "you can do whatever you want, who cares what people think" and although i don't actually think gonz is a racist (or atleast i guess i hope) i couldnt help but think "holy shit i think i fucking hate skateboarding" lolol

still got love for the gonz, but i def remember not to hang off these dudes nuts cause alot of them are fucking morons 
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on May 11, 2018, 02:21:10 PM
  To anyone curious about the Hells Angels should check out Hunter S. Thompson's Hellís Angels: The Strange and Terrible Saga of the Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs. From what I remember he goes into explaining the Nazi imagery somewhat. I think there's some similarities with early skateboard culture. It's also good for understanding our current political climate as this article does a better job of explaining then I could:

https://www.thenation.com/article/this-political-theorist-predicted-the-rise-of-trumpism-his-name-was-hunter-s-thompson/

It's a good book and I agree with the many similarities to skateboarding. The Hells Angeles were well aware of the connotations of using swastikas (the original founders were WWII vets) but still wanted to offend people without subscribing to the ideology. The car and surf cultures during the '60s were light versions of the same idea and the ensuing skate culture was pretty much a soft version of Nazi-Lite. It's a bit surprising that this is being made a big deal now since this has been common knowledge for a long time (Jason Jessee Hitler phase, etc.)
  In the early 60s Miki Dora was called  the king of Malibu and he would occationally show up at the beach in full natzi long coat with the insignia.  He also once or twice showed up to the beach with 'known' homosexuals to fuck with people on some other level.  He's known for starting localism and he started the surf natzi thing to, hundred percent.  C.R Stejek was super tight with Dora when he was a teen.  Dora wrote many articles for surf magazine and they were all pretty much like what C.R's shit ended up sounding like. All cryptic and shit. Edit Hells in the 50s and 60s would make out in public to fuck with people and show 'brotherhood'.  I don't think theres a link with the hells and surf culture but maybe with jesse there is, he does that gay shock value stuff.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: louie the taurus on May 11, 2018, 02:34:54 PM
https://youtu.be/ONU_YwmOlF4 (https://youtu.be/ONU_YwmOlF4)


did you watch this clip 5 minutes in where jake phelps is talking about how awesome swastikas are?

connect the dots

not sure whether this has raised enough attention
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Zumiez And Xanax on May 11, 2018, 02:53:52 PM
you're reaching if you think phelps is endorsing the nazi party in that clip, he's just describing an aesthetic
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: fongool on May 11, 2018, 02:58:31 PM
"you'd see a swastika on the nose of the board and you'd just be like "I want THAT"" 
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Silky Johnson on May 11, 2018, 03:00:38 PM
Aesthetic or not, shits wack
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 11, 2018, 03:02:40 PM
  In the early 60s Miki Dora was called  the king of Malibu and he would occationally show up at the beach in full natzi long coat with the insignia.  He also once or twice showed up to the beach with 'known' homosexuals to fuck with people on some other level.  He's known for starting localism and he started the surf natzi thing to, hundred percent.  C.R Stejek was super tight with Dora when he was a teen.

good post
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Xen on May 11, 2018, 03:05:44 PM
argentina? isnt that where a bunch of nazis went to hide? maybe your own to something. lol


No, that was the USA, where the government too all the top scientists and put them to work...
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: bawtawdreloaded on May 11, 2018, 03:17:06 PM
卐 S W A S T I C A 卐 A S T H E T I C S 卍
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 11, 2018, 03:26:23 PM
  To anyone curious about the Hells Angels should check out Hunter S. Thompson's Hellís Angels: The Strange and Terrible Saga of the Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs. From what I remember he goes into explaining the Nazi imagery somewhat. I think there's some similarities with early skateboard culture. It's also good for understanding our current political climate as this article does a better job of explaining then I could:

https://www.thenation.com/article/this-political-theorist-predicted-the-rise-of-trumpism-his-name-was-hunter-s-thompson/

It's a good book and I agree with the many similarities to skateboarding. The Hells Angeles were well aware of the connotations of using swastikas (the original founders were WWII vets) but still wanted to offend people without subscribing to the ideology. The car and surf cultures during the '60s were light versions of the same idea and the ensuing skate culture was pretty much a soft version of Nazi-Lite. It's a bit surprising that this is being made a big deal now since this has been common knowledge for a long time (Jason Jessee Hitler phase, etc.)

But is it common knowledge that this phase isnít over for him?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Cherb on May 11, 2018, 03:32:50 PM
argentina? isnt that where a bunch of nazis went to hide? maybe your own to something. lol


No, that was the USA, where the government too all the top scientists and put them to work...
A lot of Nazis definitely went to Argentina.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: max power on May 11, 2018, 03:48:34 PM
argentina? isnt that where a bunch of nazis went to hide? maybe your own to something. lol


No, that was the USA, where the government too all the top scientists and put them to work...
A lot of Nazis definitely went to Argentina.
Brazil and Chile, too.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: smokecrack on May 11, 2018, 03:58:42 PM
argentina? isnt that where a bunch of nazis went to hide? maybe your own to something. lol


No, that was the USA, where the government too all the top scientists and put them to work...
A lot of Nazis definitely went to Argentina.
Brazil and Chile, too.

There is truth to all of this:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratlines_(World_War_II_aftermath)

(^ 2nd link is being weird. Select the first option with the lightbulb on it)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Zumiez And Xanax on May 11, 2018, 04:26:39 PM
shit wasn't phelps a boston skinhead? j mascis interview..
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: ChuckRamone on May 11, 2018, 05:01:15 PM
  To anyone curious about the Hells Angels should check out Hunter S. Thompson's Hellís Angels: The Strange and Terrible Saga of the Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs. From what I remember he goes into explaining the Nazi imagery somewhat. I think there's some similarities with early skateboard culture. It's also good for understanding our current political climate as this article does a better job of explaining then I could:

https://www.thenation.com/article/this-political-theorist-predicted-the-rise-of-trumpism-his-name-was-hunter-s-thompson/

It's a good book and I agree with the many similarities to skateboarding. The Hells Angeles were well aware of the connotations of using swastikas (the original founders were WWII vets) but still wanted to offend people without subscribing to the ideology. The car and surf cultures during the '60s were light versions of the same idea and the ensuing skate culture was pretty much a soft version of Nazi-Lite. It's a bit surprising that this is being made a big deal now since this has been common knowledge for a long time (Jason Jessee Hitler phase, etc.)
  In the early 60s Miki Dora was called  the king of Malibu and he would occationally show up at the beach in full natzi long coat with the insignia.  He also once or twice showed up to the beach with 'known' homosexuals to fuck with people on some other level.  He's known for starting localism and he started the surf natzi thing to, hundred percent.  C.R Stejek was super tight with Dora when he was a teen.  Dora wrote many articles for surf magazine and they were all pretty much like what C.R's shit ended up sounding like. All cryptic and shit. Edit Hells in the 50s and 60s would make out in public to fuck with people and show 'brotherhood'.  I don't think theres a link with the hells and surf culture but maybe with jesse there is, he does that gay shock value stuff.

speaking of, has anyone seen this movie? how is it?

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1f/Surf_Nazis.jpg)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: friendly dave on May 11, 2018, 05:03:46 PM
its a pretty fun B-movie.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: ChuckRamone on May 11, 2018, 05:13:50 PM
awesome. think Iím gonna check it out tonight.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: streetsoup on May 11, 2018, 05:21:10 PM
shit wasn't phelps a boston skinhead? j mascis interview..

Link???
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Zumiez And Xanax on May 11, 2018, 05:28:38 PM
1:35


www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9ciR5cks6s
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: bawtawdreloaded on May 11, 2018, 05:39:44 PM

Lol^ I bet this nazi shit goes all the way to the top, we done figured em out finally


Got they ass

Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: jakeumms on May 11, 2018, 05:47:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS0oj0cNaIA

This is a vid of Phelps broing down with J reminiscing about the super gnarly Boston hardcore seen of the early/mid 80's. I was too poosy to go there so I stayed in (relatively) tame CT. For the record, I don't think Phelps is in any way Nazi affiliated. A Nazi skin in Boston at the time woulda gotten their ass beat and run out of town.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: bawtawdreloaded on May 11, 2018, 05:53:18 PM
Hmm you know, this all probabably boils down to if you like swastikas or not

But actually naw the skate industry is Nazis. That's way better.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 11, 2018, 06:26:08 PM
no way phelps is a nazi and i dont think jessee is either but they both think gnarly stuff is cool. phelps is the gatekeeper and he definitely has a thing for crusty scumbags so its not surprising he doesnt have a problem with people like this and he has definitely played a huge roll in allowing it to fester in the scene.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Schneaumunn on May 11, 2018, 06:31:20 PM
Has anyone told Dukes Car Club
they have an offay peckerwood
in their club with racist leanings?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on May 11, 2018, 06:33:16 PM
 My take dude is he called peanut brown a "    " (I'm not typing that anymore) and got seriously reprimanded for it, in front of fuckin 'everyone' -someone wrote in to transworld mentioning it and also the letter alluded to Jesse being a racist or at least a fuck head and that was in the 80s.  Any way after this happens do you come around and be cool?  or do you wear swatiskas for the next 30 years and say the word again in a interview?  Sounds like he drew his line in the sand here.   Unless he addresses some shit.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Sad Hippo on May 11, 2018, 06:37:18 PM
So NHS sucks because of this, and DLX covers up for TNT, what the hell kind of trucks am I supposed to ride? Anything sketchy in Joey Tershey's past?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Zumiez And Xanax on May 11, 2018, 06:39:16 PM
grind king
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: CRAILFISH TO REVERT on May 11, 2018, 06:43:07 PM
So NHS sucks because of this, and DLX covers up for TNT, what the hell kind of trucks am I supposed to ride? Anything sketchy in Joey Tershey's past?


 just the time where he borrowed old indy geometry for ace.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: jakeumms on May 11, 2018, 06:44:33 PM
So NHS sucks because of this, and DLX covers up for TNT, what the hell kind of trucks am I supposed to ride? Anything sketchy in Joey Tershey's past?


 just the time where he borrowed old indy geometry for ace.

Not like they were actually using it though.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 11, 2018, 06:45:25 PM
My take dude is he called peanut brown a "    " (I'm not typing that anymore) and got seriously reprimanded for it, in front of fuckin 'everyone' -someone wrote in to transworld mentioning it and also the letter alluded to Jesse being a racist or at least a fuck head and that was in the 80s.  Any way after this happens do you come around and be cool?  or do you wear swatiskas for the next 30 years and say the word again in a interview?  Sounds like he drew his line in the sand here.   Unless he addresses some shit.

this 100%

everyone has done dumb and unfortunate stuff at sometime but the difference is most of us learn and grow up or at least distance ourselves from it.

i feel terrible because i used to eat this stuff up from jessee and guys like him. growing up skating fdr and skatopia i used to always think the sketchier the dude was the cooler they were.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on May 11, 2018, 06:46:11 PM
So NHS sucks because of this, and DLX covers up for TNT, what the hell kind of trucks am I supposed to ride? Anything sketchy in Joey Tershey's past?


 just the time where he borrowed old indy geometry for ace.
  Big fuckin deal.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: HyenaChaser on May 11, 2018, 06:58:31 PM
  To anyone curious about the Hells Angels should check out Hunter S. Thompson's Hellís Angels: The Strange and Terrible Saga of the Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs. From what I remember he goes into explaining the Nazi imagery somewhat. I think there's some similarities with early skateboard culture. It's also good for understanding our current political climate as this article does a better job of explaining then I could:

https://www.thenation.com/article/this-political-theorist-predicted-the-rise-of-trumpism-his-name-was-hunter-s-thompson/

It's a good book and I agree with the many similarities to skateboarding. The Hells Angeles were well aware of the connotations of using swastikas (the original founders were WWII vets) but still wanted to offend people without subscribing to the ideology. The car and surf cultures during the '60s were light versions of the same idea and the ensuing skate culture was pretty much a soft version of Nazi-Lite. It's a bit surprising that this is being made a big deal now since this has been common knowledge for a long time (Jason Jessee Hitler phase, etc.)
  In the early 60s Miki Dora was called  the king of Malibu and he would occationally show up at the beach in full natzi long coat with the insignia.  He also once or twice showed up to the beach with 'known' homosexuals to fuck with people on some other level.  He's known for starting localism and he started the surf natzi thing to, hundred percent.  C.R Stejek was super tight with Dora when he was a teen.  Dora wrote many articles for surf magazine and they were all pretty much like what C.R's shit ended up sounding like. All cryptic and shit. Edit Hells in the 50s and 60s would make out in public to fuck with people and show 'brotherhood'.  I don't think theres a link with the hells and surf culture but maybe with jesse there is, he does that gay shock value stuff.

speaking of, has anyone seen this movie? how is it?

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1f/Surf_Nazis.jpg)

This movie is fuckin dope
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: CrappyChan on May 11, 2018, 07:02:28 PM
I have a VHS copy of surf nazis signed by Lloyd Kaufman, everybody suck it
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Not Local on May 11, 2018, 07:02:35 PM
So NHS sucks because of this, and DLX covers up for TNT, what the hell kind of trucks am I supposed to ride? Anything sketchy in Joey Tershey's past?


 just the time where he borrowed old indy geometry for ace.
  Big fuckin deal.

Tracker is all that's left for the PC Snowflakes of the world. Arguably, homophobic though as you can only go 'straight.'
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: DM on May 11, 2018, 07:16:52 PM
So NHS sucks because of this, and DLX covers up for TNT, what the hell kind of trucks am I supposed to ride? Anything sketchy in Joey Tershey's past?


 just the time where he borrowed old indy geometry for ace.

That's a bad thing somehow? Those things skate nice.
I'm gutted about this furore. I'm anti fascist. I thought his Peanut brown thing was a one off.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Chavo on May 11, 2018, 07:48:54 PM
So NHS sucks because of this, and DLX covers up for TNT, what the hell kind of trucks am I supposed to ride? Anything sketchy in Joey Tershey's past?


 just the time where he borrowed old indy geometry for ace.

Indy trucks were shameless copies of Bennett trucks. Then they borrowed the triangulated support from Tracker. This is why Indy probably never went after Ace for trademark infringement.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on May 11, 2018, 08:45:07 PM
So NHS sucks because of this, and DLX covers up for TNT, what the hell kind of trucks am I supposed to ride? Anything sketchy in Joey Tershey's past?


 just the time where he borrowed old indy geometry for ace.
  Big fuckin deal.

Tracker is all that's left for the PC Snowflakes of the world. Arguably, homophobic though as you can only go 'straight.'
  I'm trying out tracker 184s right now.  They're casted pretty badly and for that reason I wouldn't recommend them but I prefer the way they turn.  They wont turn good tho unless theyre mega loose.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: GOKU on May 11, 2018, 11:42:02 PM
What did Henry Sanchez say? I missed it. So crazy seeing all the proof this year of the skate industry turning a blind eye on awful shit. It' a damn shame. And fuck whoever it is deleting posts on here.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: t0mmywr1ght3rd on May 11, 2018, 11:47:49 PM
What did Henry Sanchez say? I missed it. So crazy seeing all the proof this year of the skate industry turning a blind eye on awful shit. It' a damn shame. And fuck whoever it is deleting posts on here.

posted the interview on the 1st page of this thread on his ig
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Smartass on May 12, 2018, 12:28:01 AM
Looks likes heís going to get called out by more than just slap soon.

I suggest we all play the pronoun game in the meantime to throw off the fucking company thatís deleting shit. Donít want them not being able to call him for this shit.

Also to give some more credit where creditís due:

The guy who posted up all the imagery in the hard luck thread (Iím pretty sure itís yourfuckingdad, but if Iím wrong, feel free to correct me)

And the dude who posted up about how much he liked his hard lucks, bringing the thread back to life.


Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: HotnSpicyMcChicken on May 12, 2018, 12:41:49 AM
Apparently being a racist piece of shit is inspirational.....................


https://instagram.com/p/Bij95EiFmFa/

 Just looking at this photo and how caveman-dumb he looks with the two hats is fucking hilarious. Sometimes I wonder how many other arenas outside of skateboarding clowns like this are taken seriously in the adult world.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Hastings on May 12, 2018, 01:28:16 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8K1fTZaR7w
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Lasernaut on May 12, 2018, 02:03:07 AM
Nazis appropriating viking/Norse Germanic culture. (I know, it's a lot older and also from Buddhist temples and such. Probably a very, very ancient symbol.)
Hitler, that fucking dweeb, should have made his own logo. He had decent graphic artists.

Here's some cool swastikas from when they had a spiritual/cosmic meaning.

(http://runer.ku.dk/userfiles/image/ImgCache/244/Snoldelev-LILLE.jpg)
The faint spoked circle (sunwheel)  underneath the swastika here is probably bronze age. Not far from the sunwheel to the swastika. Recycled stone, maybe?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/10/Djupbrunns_I_bracteate.jpg)
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dLqkrp53BGg/Snbq4VnJq3I/AAAAAAAAAuA/lGikSDn2DMQ/s1600/Swastika+Viking+Sword.jpg)

These people traded with foreign merchants (Arab peoples, Mediterranean peoples, so on), they welcomed them, hosted them, and they respected them.

Through the mists of time, it looks and feels way less evil. Still difficult to shake the more modern connotations.
Let's keep the swastika in museums.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: bawtawdreloaded on May 12, 2018, 02:29:29 AM
Cool swastikas, I think Hitlers cool bro. Yea he killed people, so what, all the leaders do. Hitler was doin the most. Most ambitions nigga on planet earth so far. He went so hard that the national flag of Germany he used is fuckin illegal in his country, and people all over the world still want it to disappear. Would be interesting to see what the world would be like if he one. Whoever losses gets shit on. I just try and see it for what it is. I think he did the swastika justice, he appropriated it pretty good. This got nothing to do with this dumb racist stuff.

Luv u hittler  :-*

 
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: S. on May 12, 2018, 05:13:54 AM
Nazis appropriating viking/Norse Germanic culture. (I know, it's a lot older and also from Buddhist temples and such. Probably a very, very ancient symbol.)
Hitler, that fucking dweeb, should have made his own logo. He had decent graphic artists.

Here's some cool swastikas from when they had a spiritual/cosmic meaning.

(http://runer.ku.dk/userfiles/image/ImgCache/244/Snoldelev-LILLE.jpg)
The faint spoked circle (sunwheel)  underneath the swastika here is probably bronze age. Not far from the sunwheel to the swastika. Recycled stone, maybe?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/10/Djupbrunns_I_bracteate.jpg)
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dLqkrp53BGg/Snbq4VnJq3I/AAAAAAAAAuA/lGikSDn2DMQ/s1600/Swastika+Viking+Sword.jpg)

These people traded with foreign merchants (Arab peoples, Mediterranean peoples, so on), they welcomed them, hosted them, and they respected them.

Through the mists of time, it looks and feels way less evil. Still difficult to shake the more modern connotations.
Let's keep the swastika in museums.

Yes maybe, but you Americans appropriated skateboards from the nazis!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwxsay44LUY
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on May 12, 2018, 05:48:42 AM
  To anyone curious about the Hells Angels should check out Hunter S. Thompson's Hellís Angels: The Strange and Terrible Saga of the Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs. From what I remember he goes into explaining the Nazi imagery somewhat. I think there's some similarities with early skateboard culture. It's also good for understanding our current political climate as this article does a better job of explaining then I could:


Yes, because any time I have a moral delimma I always look to outlaw biker gangs as a compass for how to behave ;)
Iíve read that book multiple times and that easily the most cringy thing that is contained within its pages.
ďYeah sorry that millions of Jews died and shit, weíre just out here on Harleys trying to shock people míkay?Ē
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: lalala on May 12, 2018, 06:27:07 AM
This is fucking disgusting, so Cons didn't bother to do their research before sponsoring this piece of shit? Or they just looked the other way? And what about Thrasher, they just gave him a cover; they didn't know either? Or they'll claim that they only care about skaterboarding and that it's ok to suport a skater even if he is linked with animals who brag about having hammers to kill niggers with?

Garbage. Pleople with those kind of ideas have no place in skateboarding, no matter what.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Lasernaut on May 12, 2018, 06:35:09 AM
Nazis appropriating viking/Norse Germanic culture. (I know, it's a lot older and also from Buddhist temples and such. Probably a very, very ancient symbol.)
Hitler, that fucking dweeb, should have made his own logo. He had decent graphic artists.

Here's some cool swastikas from when they had a spiritual/cosmic meaning.

(http://runer.ku.dk/userfiles/image/ImgCache/244/Snoldelev-LILLE.jpg)
The faint spoked circle (sunwheel)  underneath the swastika here is probably bronze age. Not far from the sunwheel to the swastika. Recycled stone, maybe?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/10/Djupbrunns_I_bracteate.jpg)
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dLqkrp53BGg/Snbq4VnJq3I/AAAAAAAAAuA/lGikSDn2DMQ/s1600/Swastika+Viking+Sword.jpg)

These people traded with foreign merchants (Arab peoples, Mediterranean peoples, so on), they welcomed them, hosted them, and they respected them.

Through the mists of time, it looks and feels way less evil. Still difficult to shake the more modern connotations.
Let's keep the swastika in museums.

Yes maybe, but you Americans appropriated skateboards from the nazis!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwxsay44LUY
I am Danish, so I guess I appropriated skateboards from Americans who appropriated them from Nazis. That's a good invention, though.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: smellsdead on May 12, 2018, 06:55:57 AM
This is fucking disgusting...

Garbage. People with those kind of ideas have no place on earth, no matter what.
fixed that for ya

props to slap for diggin the dirt up and throwing it their faces

and fuck yeah hastings i love the boosh

really troubling that the mods did not delete any threads or content...thank you for your transparency hate
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Stoop Kid 2.0 on May 12, 2018, 07:02:45 AM
Stance is promoting Jesse pretty hard on insta and Facebook. Pretty whack this shit is known and just ignored. Meanwhile in this day and age a comedian could make a joke about being a nazi and shit and lose all his gigs and job. Obviously the skate industry is cool with domestic violence, homophobia, racism, and sodomy.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: GAY on May 12, 2018, 07:27:37 AM
Stance is promoting Jesse pretty hard on insta and Facebook. Pretty whack this shit is known and just ignored. Meanwhile in this day and age a comedian could make a joke about being a nazi and shit and lose all his gigs and job. Obviously the skate industry is cool with domestic violence, homophobia, racism, and sodomy.

Let's take it back to the Old Testament y'all.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: augor on May 12, 2018, 08:49:41 AM
Stress headaches look dope, yo!

Stress headaches look like my hairline
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on May 12, 2018, 09:13:29 AM
  To anyone curious about the Hells Angels should check out Hunter S. Thompson's Hellís Angels: The Strange and Terrible Saga of the Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs. From what I remember he goes into explaining the Nazi imagery somewhat. I think there's some similarities with early skateboard culture. It's also good for understanding our current political climate as this article does a better job of explaining then I could:


Yes, because any time I have a moral delimma I always look to outlaw biker gangs as a compass for how to behave ;)
Iíve read that book multiple times and that easily the most cringy thing that is contained within its pages.
ďYeah sorry that millions of Jews died and shit, weíre just out here on Harleys trying to shock people míkay?Ē
   To be fair I'm not sure if racist kkk America had adopted the swatiska yet in the 50s when the bikers started with it. So over hear in n America using the swatiska back then wouldn't have the signifigance it would have today because now the insignia just means racism universially.  It meant that back then too but it felt removed from here and more a euro thing.  Not excusing the shit head H.A. (would say anything bad about them publically either ha)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: bo bice on May 12, 2018, 10:10:03 AM
  To anyone curious about the Hells Angels should check out Hunter S. Thompson's Hellís Angels: The Strange and Terrible Saga of the Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs. From what I remember he goes into explaining the Nazi imagery somewhat. I think there's some similarities with early skateboard culture. It's also good for understanding our current political climate as this article does a better job of explaining then I could:


Yes, because any time I have a moral delimma I always look to outlaw biker gangs as a compass for how to behave ;)
Iíve read that book multiple times and that easily the most cringy thing that is contained within its pages.
ďYeah sorry that millions of Jews died and shit, weíre just out here on Harleys trying to shock people míkay?Ē
   To be fair I'm not sure if racist kkk America had adopted the swatiska yet in the 50s when the bikers started with it. So over hear in n America using the swatiska back then wouldn't have the signifigance it would have today because now the insignia just means racism universially.  It meant that back then too but it felt removed from here and more a euro thing.  Not excusing the shit head H.A. (would say anything bad about them publically either ha)

Yeah man right after WWII nobody knew about nazis or swastikas at all 🙄
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: BacksideWallride on May 12, 2018, 10:16:21 AM
Tim Von Werne was blacklisted for loving people his same sex. Jesse gets put on a pedestal after multiple violent/hateful moves from 25 years ago to present, but hey he's our hero. Same with our favorite murderers Way and Adams. Was so bummed Elissa had a trick with the nazi in Purple.

Just think if they had loved rather than hate, what posers.

On a real note, the history of skateboarding pertains to the individual. For me and my friends we were misfits in the 90's and chased boneheads from our punk shows. Kicking nazi ass since 94

Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: BacksideWallride on May 12, 2018, 10:19:16 AM
Nazis appropriating viking/Norse Germanic culture. (I know, it's a lot older and also from Buddhist temples and such. Probably a very, very ancient symbol.)
Hitler, that fucking dweeb, should have made his own logo. He had decent graphic artists.

Here's some cool swastikas from when they had a spiritual/cosmic meaning.

(http://runer.ku.dk/userfiles/image/ImgCache/244/Snoldelev-LILLE.jpg)
The faint spoked circle (sunwheel)  underneath the swastika here is probably bronze age. Not far from the sunwheel to the swastika. Recycled stone, maybe?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/10/Djupbrunns_I_bracteate.jpg)
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dLqkrp53BGg/Snbq4VnJq3I/AAAAAAAAAuA/lGikSDn2DMQ/s1600/Swastika+Viking+Sword.jpg)

These people traded with foreign merchants (Arab peoples, Mediterranean peoples, so on), they welcomed them, hosted them, and they respected them.

Through the mists of time, it looks and feels way less evil. Still difficult to shake the more modern connotations.
Let's keep the swastika in museums.

My brother questioned my Neurosis hoodie the other day, those fucks are making Odin symbols their thing now.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: VHS ERA on May 12, 2018, 10:32:39 AM
Welp, fuck this dude and any brand that backs him.

No loss of a hero here tho, I barely remember who he is anyway.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: NootNoot on May 12, 2018, 11:38:24 AM
Tim Von Werne was blacklisted for loving people his same sex. Jesse gets put on a pedestal after multiple violent/hateful moves from 25 years ago to present, but hey he's our hero. Same with our favorite murderers Way and Adams. Was so bummed Elissa had a trick with the nazi in Purple.

Just think if they had loved rather than hate, what posers.

On a real note, the history of skateboarding pertains to the individual. For me and my friends we were misfits in the 90's and chased boneheads from our punk shows. Kicking nazi ass since 94
Speak for yourself I donít know a single person who would call JJ their ďheroĒ let alone pay attention to him. My local shop has hard luck merch on clearance from two years ago and nobody buys it or cares. Also, why the fuck were so many people foaming at the mouth, coming after you, over consolidated and Jason Jesse and taking Andy roys side a few months ago even after leticia exposed him for being a methhead and stealing from them. Now SLAPS switched up and hates the guy and also talks shit about Andy Roy.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Disco234 on May 12, 2018, 12:19:50 PM
This guys sperm is the one that baby cakes and elissa want as their own offspring. Fuckíem all and let god sortíem out
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Bitter on May 12, 2018, 12:36:32 PM
Stress headaches look dope, yo!

(https://s9.postimg.cc/59tp41tun/Red_Bandana_B_1024x1024_2x.jpg)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Spaced Cadet on May 12, 2018, 01:39:36 PM
Right before Jason Jesse's part Jake skates to Death in June, a band who is known for their controversial usage of nazi imagery. Just coincidence or is it another piece of the puzzle?


(https://img.discogs.com/f8xRl_5Her7Jr3rA9VXhnSrWub8=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-6037257-1409444703-3912.jpeg.jpg)


(https://nycantifa.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/death_in_june_e28093_sun_dogs.jpg)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: homehelpsearch on May 12, 2018, 02:04:44 PM
All you gay faggots foaming at the mouth for outrage. Take that shit back to reddit. Heil Hitler Nazis r KEWL
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Xen on May 12, 2018, 02:05:22 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tsUDCO9VEGF3CBCdVrI1KmwF7Dbd2NYVb_TEAGLVdX3Rtox0MhKsxv3HiX0GO91WQ73xBJjIF2Y1yUjiB9bxg7M5ty8xejOQ1Tmr2VS3K0cdm1XVOEzzlhXkPzqx7NP5mf3vYVs0zYo=w2400)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: cosmicgypsies on May 12, 2018, 02:09:43 PM
peeped jason jessees instagram story lastnight and he had some quote about people regretting the shit they do in their 20s or something like that, cant remember what it was specifically but it seemed like some specific timing to post quotes about mistakes in your youth

jason jessee on slap
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: BacksideWallride on May 12, 2018, 02:11:25 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tsUDCO9VEGF3CBCdVrI1KmwF7Dbd2NYVb_TEAGLVdX3Rtox0MhKsxv3HiX0GO91WQ73xBJjIF2Y1yUjiB9bxg7M5ty8xejOQ1Tmr2VS3K0cdm1XVOEzzlhXkPzqx7NP5mf3vYVs0zYo=w2400)

"Askes" I love when white power dudes claim to be the smarter race lol
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: GinosGroceries on May 12, 2018, 02:20:21 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tsUDCO9VEGF3CBCdVrI1KmwF7Dbd2NYVb_TEAGLVdX3Rtox0MhKsxv3HiX0GO91WQ73xBJjIF2Y1yUjiB9bxg7M5ty8xejOQ1Tmr2VS3K0cdm1XVOEzzlhXkPzqx7NP5mf3vYVs0zYo=w2400)

"Askes" I love when white power dudes claim to be the smarter race lol
I have a hunch that Jose Gutierrez is not white
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: bawtawdreloaded on May 12, 2018, 02:22:29 PM
Jose Gutierrez on white power confirmed.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: bo bice on May 12, 2018, 02:22:36 PM
Jesus Christ imagine being so dumb and ignorant you blame your self-inflicted problems on minorities WHILE DRESSING LIKE A FUCKIN CHOLO
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: shitcunt on May 12, 2018, 02:24:17 PM
I just messaged converse calling them out on supporting a know nazi sympathizer. I suggest everyone else who cares does the same. A large corp isn't gonna hesitate to dump his racist ass as soon as it seems like they're going to get some bad PR. One of the few perks of them being non-skate owned.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: oyolar on May 12, 2018, 02:25:55 PM
Right before Jason Jesse's part Jake skates to Death in June, a band who is known for their controversial usage of nazi imagery. Just coincidence or is it another piece of the puzzle?


(https://img.discogs.com/f8xRl_5Her7Jr3rA9VXhnSrWub8=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-6037257-1409444703-3912.jpeg.jpg)


(https://nycantifa.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/death_in_june_e28093_sun_dogs.jpg)

They edited Jake to DIJ? Damn, that sucks. Way to disrespect their most important pro...
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Frank on May 12, 2018, 02:51:00 PM
Right before Jason Jesse's part Jake skates to Death in June, a band who is known for their controversial usage of nazi imagery. Just coincidence or is it another piece of the puzzle?


(https://img.discogs.com/f8xRl_5Her7Jr3rA9VXhnSrWub8=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-6037257-1409444703-3912.jpeg.jpg)


(https://nycantifa.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/death_in_june_e28093_sun_dogs.jpg)

They edited Jake to DIJ? Damn, that sucks. Way to disrespect their most important pro...

pontus alv is also a big death in june fan. polar used a song by them in the promo. tbh i don't think listening to death in june makes you a nazi, even tho the dude is known to be pretty right wing and xenophobic, but of the esoteric paganistic branch. anyways, if it was about fascist/racist imagery used, there's plenty of antifascist bands using the imagery as well. i would also argue that i can enjoy art that is made by people with appaling views totally different to mine, as long as the art is not indoctrinating me into adapting their stance. that said, i am not a fan of death in june, i like crisis much more personally. and if death in june carry racist or nazi messages in their music might be debatable, but i honestly don't know a lot of their music.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: planman on May 12, 2018, 02:52:39 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tsUDCO9VEGF3CBCdVrI1KmwF7Dbd2NYVb_TEAGLVdX3Rtox0MhKsxv3HiX0GO91WQ73xBJjIF2Y1yUjiB9bxg7M5ty8xejOQ1Tmr2VS3K0cdm1XVOEzzlhXkPzqx7NP5mf3vYVs0zYo=w2400)

"Askes" I love when white power dudes claim to be the smarter race lol
I have a hunch that Jose Gutierrez is not white
eh I thought that was funny
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: the_unknown_soldier on May 12, 2018, 03:10:14 PM
peeped jason jessees instagram story lastnight and he had some quote about people regretting the shit they do in their 20s or something like that, cant remember what it was specifically but it seemed like some specific timing to post quotes about mistakes in your youth

jason jessee on slap

I hardly consider your 20's to be your "youth". Anybody, especially that age, should know better.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 12, 2018, 03:36:06 PM
He was in his 30s when he had that line of clothing with the swastika on it.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: jakeumms on May 12, 2018, 03:39:40 PM
So who's got a rip of "Pray for Me"? I've been looking for a few years but it seems pretty suppressed.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Hmmmm Nice Bike on May 12, 2018, 03:53:16 PM
We gonna give Corey Duffel his own thread for his racist remarks in an interview?

Did you happen to see the Jason jesse signature nazi gear ? I'd say this is worse that Corey's idiotic teenage remark

I decided to watch Pretty Sweet due to that other thread and then seen this in the credits. Kind of a funny coincidence to see them together, I mean unless it's already known that they are buddies or something.
https://i.imgur.com/G0FO2j8.gifv
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: bawtawdreloaded on May 12, 2018, 03:54:01 PM
So who's got a rip of "Pray for Me"? I've been looking for a few years but it seems pretty suppressed.
This was the first thing that popped up on google dumbass
https://archive.org/details/JasonJessePrayForMe
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: jakeumms on May 12, 2018, 03:57:22 PM
Your search results via google are not gonna be the same as my search results, my dude. Take it up with mutherfucking google.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on May 12, 2018, 04:16:48 PM
  To anyone curious about the Hells Angels should check out Hunter S. Thompson's Hellís Angels: The Strange and Terrible Saga of the Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs. From what I remember he goes into explaining the Nazi imagery somewhat. I think there's some similarities with early skateboard culture. It's also good for understanding our current political climate as this article does a better job of explaining then I could:


Yes, because any time I have a moral delimma I always look to outlaw biker gangs as a compass for how to behave ;)
Iíve read that book multiple times and that easily the most cringy thing that is contained within its pages.
ďYeah sorry that millions of Jews died and shit, weíre just out here on Harleys trying to shock people míkay?Ē
   To be fair I'm not sure if racist kkk America had adopted the swatiska yet in the 50s when the bikers started with it. So over hear in n America using the swatiska back then wouldn't have the signifigance it would have today because now the insignia just means racism universially.  It meant that back then too but it felt removed from here and more a euro thing.  Not excusing the shit head H.A. (would say anything bad about them publically either ha)

Yeah man right after WWII nobody knew about nazis or swastikas at all 🙄
 
  They did but and it meant racism (like I said in the post which you skipped over) but the racist element that already existed in the U.S weren't identifying with the swatiska or Hitler yet.  I was just mentioning that you thick fuck.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 12, 2018, 04:22:06 PM
Looking through the highway murderers feed itís gross to see how intertwined that racist bands is with skaters. Swept under the rug
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Spaced Cadet on May 12, 2018, 04:27:28 PM
Right before Jason Jesse's part Jake skates to Death in June, a band who is known for their controversial usage of nazi imagery. Just coincidence or is it another piece of the puzzle?


(https://img.discogs.com/f8xRl_5Her7Jr3rA9VXhnSrWub8=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-6037257-1409444703-3912.jpeg.jpg)


(https://nycantifa.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/death_in_june_e28093_sun_dogs.jpg)

They edited Jake to DIJ? Damn, that sucks. Way to disrespect their most important pro...

pontus alv is also a big death in june fan. polar used a song by them in the promo. tbh i don't think listening to death in june makes you a nazi, even tho the dude is known to be pretty right wing and xenophobic, but of the esoteric paganistic branch. anyways, if it was about fascist/racist imagery used, there's plenty of antifascist bands using the imagery as well. i would also argue that i can enjoy art that is made by people with appaling views totally different to mine, as long as the art is not indoctrinating me into adapting their stance. that said, i am not a fan of death in june, i like crisis much more personally. and if death in june carry racist or nazi messages in their music might be debatable, but i honestly don't know a lot of their music.

I'm not pointing out a problem using Death in June in the video just thought it was funny that they use a band that is known to be controversial because they use nazi imagery, dress like nazis, etc. but is debated on whether or not they are actually nazis right before Jason Jesse. And here we are debating on whether or not Jason Jesse is a nazi because he uses nazi imagery a lot. It might be a funny coincidence or a very questionable decision if done on purpose.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Sad Hippo on May 12, 2018, 04:29:32 PM
So is Slap admin/mod Schmitty the same Schmitty/thrasher filmer that filmed his part for purple?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BigFFS4AHZ3/?hl=en&taken-by=epiclytrife
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: GAY on May 12, 2018, 06:16:37 PM
All you gay faggots foaming at the mouth for outrage. Take that shit back to reddit. Heil Hitler Nazis r KEWL

Finally, a measured and reasonable response that will help us to make some sense of all this.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: I sniff Jim Gagne's butthole all the time on May 12, 2018, 06:30:53 PM
So is Slap admin/mod Schmitty the same Schmitty/thrasher filmer that filmed his part for purple?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BigFFS4AHZ3/?hl=en&taken-by=epiclytrife
no, the slap one is schmidtty from the new girl
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Chris Hansen is back on May 12, 2018, 07:25:37 PM
A racist Mormon? Unbelievable!
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: feedmeseymour on May 12, 2018, 07:44:59 PM
peeped jason jessees instagram story lastnight and he had some quote about people regretting the shit they do in their 20s or something like that, cant remember what it was specifically but it seemed like some specific timing to post quotes about mistakes in your youth

jason jessee on slap
(http://i63.tinypic.com/r1bpxs.png)

From Jasonís Instagram story. Fuck this dude
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: deathturd on May 12, 2018, 07:47:15 PM
I was wondering when someone would bring up the death in June thing. That band is fucking frustrating.. that dude could sing about grocery shopping and it would be the most beautiful thing, but instead it's based upon his obsession with WWII and has obvious tones of neo-naziism. Was very surprised to see them use that song. It's called "hail the white grain" for fucks sakes.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 12, 2018, 08:11:22 PM
That schmitty guy was active on the board around the time those posts got deleted.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: augustmoon on May 12, 2018, 08:13:14 PM
So is Slap admin/mod Schmitty the same Schmitty/thrasher filmer that filmed his part for purple?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BigFFS4AHZ3/?hl=en&taken-by=epiclytrife

this has to be the same guy

has worked for high speed forever and also runs this blog:

http://epiclytrife.com/wurdpress/

not shocked at the first pic
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
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Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: HATE! on May 12, 2018, 11:05:12 PM
An accident.

It's unlocked now.  I guess I locked it on accident. I definitely didn't do it on purpose. Call Jason Jessee out. Call Daryl Angel out. Call TNT and Shelter's brother out. This shit has been swept aside or ignored long enough. But yeah. If I locked it, it was 100% unintentional.

No sacred cows here.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 12, 2018, 11:07:14 PM

who deleted all the pics out the post yesterday? did you accidentally do that too?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: HATE! on May 12, 2018, 11:09:49 PM
That was High Speed. Bobby Peru, Randozzi, grimcity or I haven't deleted a single post or thread from there and we are pretty unhappy with that happening.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: saucy ragu on May 12, 2018, 11:10:22 PM
So is Slap admin/mod Schmitty the same Schmitty/thrasher filmer that filmed his part for purple?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BigFFS4AHZ3/?hl=en&taken-by=epiclytrife
no, the slap one is schmidtty from the new girl

That is not the Girl Schmiddty, the Slap mod is the Schmitty that's best friends with Jessee.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 12, 2018, 11:11:49 PM
That was High Speed. Bobby Peru, Randozzi, grimcity or I haven't deleted a single post or thread from there and we are pretty unhappy with that happening.

who?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: HATE! on May 12, 2018, 11:17:03 PM
schmitty. Honestly, a mod I can't remember being online in maybe years. But yeah, I don't have a problem saying who deleted that stuff. The mods I mentioned, and i, have been talking. We're not sure how to address it as the deleted threads are coming from actual admin from HS.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 12, 2018, 11:18:33 PM
schmitty. Honestly, a mod I can't remember being online in maybe years. But yeah, I don't have a problem saying who deleted that stuff. The mods I mentioned, and i, have been talking. We're not sure how to address it as the deleted threads are coming from actual admin from HS.

lets all discuss it together right here
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: HATE! on May 12, 2018, 11:21:27 PM
By all means. Fuck racism, fuck racists and fuck anyone hiding it.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 12, 2018, 11:22:32 PM
By all means. Fuck racism, fuck racists and fuck anyone hiding it.

i back this
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: bawtawdreloaded on May 12, 2018, 11:28:03 PM
This shits bigger than Jason Jesse. All those cali dudes that were Nazis in the 80s run the California industry. They built it. 
Fuck Jason Jesse and any brand that backs him. Glad I skate Thunders.

thunders, indy, venture, spitfire, deluxe, nhs, thrasher, slap are all the same company
(http://i4.ytimg.com/vi/KYD46Q0a3Qo/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: bawtawdreloaded on May 12, 2018, 11:40:20 PM
(https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1389/07/1389070299959.jpg)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on May 13, 2018, 12:53:47 AM
  Surprised it wasn't mentioned but thrasher staff was getting called out pretty hard for being racist in 93 by emb people.  It got squashed tho.   
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: bo bice on May 13, 2018, 02:41:41 AM
Who among us didnít rock Nazi imagery as teenagers and then in our twenties and then our thirties and also last week on instagram? Let he who is without swastika patches throw the first stone...
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Cherb on May 13, 2018, 06:54:08 AM
Let he who is without swastika patches throw the first stone...
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 13, 2018, 07:02:24 AM
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32294459_10156458448917853_7487122195957678080_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=AeGEvcDctUJxV-7AXNQbgBZr3Orte6AG1EHrncxNh8l6MfOp6vpZd9LmiCjasmAkgDDF0Tl5KbzKo4P7_8YlttfWNuTzBN-S4hbT_hR3LdxrtQ&oh=11f08f8051825ca1f718f131624b1332&oe=5B4EEA19)


good morning schmitty
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: micky682 on May 13, 2018, 08:03:36 AM
By all means. Fuck racism, fuck racists and fuck anyone hiding it.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: behavioralguide on May 13, 2018, 08:38:08 AM
Right before Jason Jesse's part Jake skates to Death in June, a band who is known for their controversial usage of nazi imagery. Just coincidence or is it another piece of the puzzle?

They edited Jake to DIJ? Damn, that sucks. Way to disrespect their most important pro...

pontus alv is also a big death in june fan. polar used a song by them in the promo. tbh i don't think listening to death in june makes you a nazi, even tho the dude is known to be pretty right wing and xenophobic, but of the esoteric paganistic branch. anyways, if it was about fascist/racist imagery used, there's plenty of antifascist bands using the imagery as well. i would also argue that i can enjoy art that is made by people with appaling views totally different to mine, as long as the art is not indoctrinating me into adapting their stance. that said, i am not a fan of death in june, i like crisis much more personally. and if death in june carry racist or nazi messages in their music might be debatable, but i honestly don't know a lot of their music.

I'm not pointing out a problem using Death in June in the video just thought it was funny that they use a band that is known to be controversial because they use nazi imagery, dress like nazis, etc. but is debated on whether or not they are actually nazis right before Jason Jesse. And here we are debating on whether or not Jason Jesse is a nazi because he uses nazi imagery a lot. It might be a funny coincidence or a very questionable decision if done on purpose.

I was wondering when someone would bring up the death in June thing. That band is fucking frustrating.. that dude could sing about grocery shopping and it would be the most beautiful thing, but instead it's based upon his obsession with WWII and has obvious tones of neo-naziism. Was very surprised to see them use that song. It's called "hail the white grain" for fucks sakes.

maybe ben choad/ benjamin chadourne is the silent hero, showing us the way in this whole jj/jj thing

JakeJohnson skating to DeathInJune for audic-aesthic purpose, on the DIJ is not racist side of the band's controversy, but;
DIJ as the song leading up to Jason''TheNazi''Jesse, pointing at him, an indexical sign, if you will. Introducing him and then:
JasonJesse skating to Fountain of Filth:

A pool of sound that showed my own reflection/ In a fountain of filth

[EDIT]

also look at the 6th color of this DIJ logo (counting from top)
(https://ii.yuki.la/7/ed/6817a8eba61a3d949018cc342b33bb327f41dec2d883e4a986d59193d0336ed7.png)
I am on to something


Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: shark tits on May 13, 2018, 08:41:53 AM
yo, it turns out schmidtty is the first person to enroll for this iteration of slap in 2005. like if you look at the members list by date registered, he's number one.
who is the father of all lies?
schmidtty schmidtty schmidtty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtGnoI-efPw
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Just Giver on May 13, 2018, 09:08:55 AM
It looks like this is starting to catch on outside of SLAP.  I've been seeing Instagram posts about boycotting Santa Cruz/Independent/Cons/Thrasher from some of the younger kids in my area. 
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Willie on May 13, 2018, 11:17:27 AM
Who among us didnít rock Nazi imagery as teenagers and then in our twenties and then our thirties and also last week on instagram? Let he who is without swastika patches throw the first stone...

I had a red Jimmy'Z beret with iron crosses on it. Not sure if Nazi but still shameful...
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Surf-goth on May 13, 2018, 11:42:48 AM
Who among us didnít rock Nazi imagery as teenagers and then in our twenties and then our thirties and also last week on instagram? Let he who is without swastika patches throw the first stone...



I had a red Jimmy'Z beret with iron crosses on it. Not sure if Nazi but still shameful...



Berets alone are shameful.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Mystical Leader on May 13, 2018, 12:09:01 PM
Who among us didnít rock Nazi imagery as teenagers and then in our twenties and then our thirties and also last week on instagram? Let he who is without swastika patches throw the first stone...



I had a red Jimmy'Z beret with iron crosses on it. Not sure if Nazi but still shameful...



Berets alone are shameful.

http://www.crazyweek.fr/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Le-b%C3%A9ret-Laulhere.jpg
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 13, 2018, 12:17:35 PM
My take dude is he called peanut brown a "    " (I'm not typing that anymore) and got seriously reprimanded for it, in front of fuckin 'everyone' -someone wrote in to transworld mentioning it and also the letter alluded to Jesse being a racist or at least a fuck head and that was in the 80s.  Any way after this happens do you come around and be cool?  or do you wear swatiskas for the next 30 years and say the word again in a interview?  Sounds like he drew his line in the sand here.   Unless he addresses some shit.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: DCLOVE on May 13, 2018, 12:33:56 PM
It looks like this is starting to catch on outside of SLAP.  I've been seeing Instagram posts about boycotting Santa Cruz/Independent/Cons/Thrasher from some of the younger kids in my area.

This , we need to take this to Instagram and other social media where they everyone can see it , not just the industry heads lurking slap. Theyíve already tried censoring it, speak up people. Letís get this dude out of skating for good. No place for hate.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 13, 2018, 12:51:10 PM
The strange thing is I really donít think Jessee is a racist. Heís really just an asshole edgelord. The problem is all the people that follow him and look up to him for that shit. Like those highway murderer guys. Then when Indy and thrasher support dudes like this it indoctrinates new goons who actually are racists.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Dwyck on May 13, 2018, 12:55:29 PM
The strange thing is I really donít think Jessee is a racist. Heís really just an asshole edgelord. The problem is all the people that follow him and look up to him for that shit. Like those highway murderer guys. Then when Indy and thrasher support dudes like this it indoctrinates new goons who actually are racists.

i back this interpretation. i heard jason jesse cant fly because he wrote "i have a bomb" on a napkin
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Big Skatefase on May 13, 2018, 01:15:06 PM
this has obviously got back to not only jason jessee, but people affiliated with jason jessee by now.

it's weird how he or anybody that he's close to in the industry hasn't even come out to say or explain any of this yet. is he a nazi? is he a nazi sympathizer? why does he hang around other neo-nazi's? is he just a kook using nazi imagery to make himself look cool or edgy? i woulda expected a long winded IG post or something by now but whatever.

i don't really give a shit if he gets "cancelled" or not, but this sets a unique precedent in how the skatebaord industry will deal with racism, antisemitism, homophobia, sexism, etc. in the future.

just like with the darryl angel shit or chase raping kids with screwdrivers, i guess we'll ignore it until it blows over and act like it never happened.

Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Pretty Serious on May 13, 2018, 01:25:52 PM
I just watched the Grosso Nine Club monologue.  He basically low-key dry snitches on everyone he came up with.  I think he'd be spouting off some good Jason Jesse Nazi stories.  Unless he's a sympathizer.  Here we have his graphic, what's that in his hand? An extra S? As in SS is he trying to say something and the halo over the pure white figure confirms it, Jeff must be a Nazi too. 
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/V6sAAOSwZQxW5K6t/s-l300.jpg)

also
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/archive/f/fa/20161202224649%21German_Cross.svg/120px-German_Cross.svg.png)
+
(https://deutschlandunddieostmark.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/17a31-eagle2526swastika-emblem-thirdreich-germany-petercrawford.png)
=
(https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Ft10.deviantart.net%2FmVbYUMCk1roFAdeMosxOiJmpPhw%3D%2Ffit-in%2F150x150%2Ffilters%3Ano_upscale()%3Aorigin()%2Fpre04%2F45e0%2Fth%2Fpre%2Fi%2F2011%2F335%2Fb%2Fd%2Ftony_hawk_by_sergiotoribio-d34j23p.jpg&f=1)


As long as there remains a prison and outlaw biker culture fan base, the worst that's going to happen to Jesse is maybe getting banned from Berkeley. 

(http://metalsludge.tv/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/NS_Feb_2016_F41-265x265.png) local Bay Area heros.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Atiba Applebum on May 13, 2018, 01:29:23 PM
I just watched the Grosso Nine Club monologue.  He basically low-key dry snitches on everyone he came up with.  I think he'd be spouting off some good Jason Jesse Nazi stories.  Unless he's a sympathizer.  Here we have his graphic, what's that in his hand? An extra S? As in SS is he trying to say something and the halo over the pure white figure confirms it, Jeff must be a Nazi too. 
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/V6sAAOSwZQxW5K6t/s-l300.jpg)

also
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/archive/f/fa/20161202224649%21German_Cross.svg/120px-German_Cross.svg.png)
+
(https://deutschlandunddieostmark.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/17a31-eagle2526swastika-emblem-thirdreich-germany-petercrawford.png)
=
(https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Ft10.deviantart.net%2FmVbYUMCk1roFAdeMosxOiJmpPhw%3D%2Ffit-in%2F150x150%2Ffilters%3Ano_upscale()%3Aorigin()%2Fpre04%2F45e0%2Fth%2Fpre%2Fi%2F2011%2F335%2Fb%2Fd%2Ftony_hawk_by_sergiotoribio-d34j23p.jpg&f=1)


As long as there remains a prison and outlaw biker culture fan base, the worst that's going to happen to Jesse is maybe getting banned from Berkeley. 

(http://metalsludge.tv/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/NS_Feb_2016_F41-265x265.png) local Bay Area heros.

Well that extra S explains Shecklerís ďconfussedĒ
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: bawtawdghost on May 13, 2018, 01:45:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUqFGh_6eh0
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: CRITICAL BEATDOWN on May 13, 2018, 01:59:26 PM
This is fucked and it shouldn't have been tolerated for the last 30 years. High Speed, NHS, DLX are all complicit in the propagation of racist imagery in skateboarding. Vote with your wallets kids. Why is this guy on legend status anyway? I'm in my mid 30s, been skating for 25 years and have no idea what he's done to be placed on a pedestal. Clean FSA's? Big deal, flip your board you racist pussy.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 13, 2018, 02:12:22 PM
I wouldnít expect Jessee to ever acknowledge or explain this and I donít think he needs to. His sponsors on the other hand is completely different. Iíd expect to see something from converse since they are the most corporate. Thrasher or Indy saying something is much more complicated since it would open the door for them having to explain a lot more about themselves. They will just hope it fades away again or will let it help out their edgy aesthetic mystique.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: DCLOVE on May 13, 2018, 04:45:07 PM
The strange thing is I really donít think Jessee is a racist. Heís really just an asshole edgelord. The problem is all the people that follow him and look up to him for that shit. Like those highway murderer guys. Then when Indy and thrasher support dudes like this it indoctrinates new goons who actually are racists.

i back this interpretation. i heard jason jesse cant fly because he wrote "i have a bomb" on a napkin

Itís in an Old tws or skateboard mag but basically he was scribbling In his notebook and wrote something like I hope no one has a bomb or something and the lady sitting next to him on the plane saw it and complained and now heís on the no fly list.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on May 13, 2018, 04:49:54 PM
The strange thing is I really donít think Jessee is a racist. Heís really just an asshole edgelord. The problem is all the people that follow him and look up to him for that shit. Like those highway murderer guys. Then when Indy and thrasher support dudes like this it indoctrinates new goons who actually are racists.

i back this interpretation. i heard jason jesse cant fly because he wrote "i have a bomb" on a napkin

Itís in an Old tws or skateboard mag but basically he was scribbling In his notebook and wrote something like I hope no one has a bomb or something and the lady sitting next to him on the plane saw it and complained and now heís on the no fly list.
  He had the words 'suicide bomber' written on the cover of his notebook.  -I just watched pray for me.  The news interview he gave was actually classic.  The whole news clip is pretty sick really.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: tom on May 13, 2018, 04:57:32 PM
The strange thing is I really donít think Jessee is a racist. Heís really just an asshole edgelord. The problem is all the people that follow him and look up to him for that shit. Like those highway murderer guys. Then when Indy and thrasher support dudes like this it indoctrinates new goons who actually are racists.

i back this interpretation. i heard jason jesse cant fly because he wrote "i have a bomb" on a napkin

Itís in an Old tws or skateboard mag but basically he was scribbling In his notebook and wrote something like I hope no one has a bomb or something and the lady sitting next to him on the plane saw it and complained and now heís on the no fly list.
he wrote "suicide bomber" on a book mid-flight
https://archive.org/details/JasonJesseeArrested
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: shark tits on May 13, 2018, 05:11:20 PM
The strange thing is I really donít think Jessee is a racist. Heís really just an asshole edgelord. The problem is all the people that follow him and look up to him for that shit. Like those highway murderer guys. Then when Indy and thrasher support dudes like this it indoctrinates new goons who actually are racists.

i back this interpretation. i heard jason jesse cant fly because he wrote "i have a bomb" on a napkin

Itís in an Old tws or skateboard mag but basically he was scribbling In his notebook and wrote something like I hope no one has a bomb or something and the lady sitting next to him on the plane saw it and complained and now heís on the no fly list.
he wrote "suicide bomber" on a book mid-flight
https://archive.org/details/JasonJesseeArrested
that interview is really endearing. he's a shock value guy and like getting the airplane pulled over, getting slap's panties in a bunch is more shockful than he prolly intended.
once that show w/ jessee james the biker guy, i thought that was jason jessee and i was surprised he'd gotten so mainstream famous.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 13, 2018, 05:32:25 PM

he's a shock value guy and like getting the airplane pulled over, getting slap's panties in a bunch is more shockful than he prolly intended.

exactly. makes it kind of funny if his sponsors are having threads deleted since there is actually nothing to hide. they should know this is something you get with the guy. at the same time they have to expect backlash for it.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Manolo on May 13, 2018, 05:42:43 PM
People get outraged so easily nowadays.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 13, 2018, 05:47:33 PM
yeah i wish we could go back to the good old days when you could call someone the n word and wear swastikas and no one would say shit.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: shitcunt on May 13, 2018, 05:47:59 PM
People get outraged so easily nowadays.
People getting outraged about this sorta stuff isn't new, there was actually a world war about it once.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: ShredWilliams on May 13, 2018, 05:56:04 PM
People get outraged so easily nowadays.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: IHOP on May 13, 2018, 05:58:19 PM
I wouldnít expect Jessee to ever acknowledge or explain this and I donít think he needs to. His sponsors on the other hand is completely different. Iíd expect to see something from converse since they are the most corporate. Thrasher or Indy saying something is much more complicated since it would open the door for them having to explain a lot more about themselves. They will just hope it fades away again or will let it help out their edgy aesthetic mystique.

I wouldn't really expect converse to address it either considering they just gave him a section in their video, which they will still be promoting for the next year or so.  Theres no way for any of his sponsors to address it without losing sales and looking bad, not like you have to dig very hard to find out he reps swazis.

All I'm hoping is that his coverage halts and when its contract time his sponsors step up to the plate and drop him.  same for daryl, of course I would love for the industry to address their mistakes and take a stand, but im not holding my breath.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Surf-goth on May 13, 2018, 06:08:44 PM
Oh okay a couple of the "cool guys" in here are backing jessee now. Watch everyone switch sides.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on May 13, 2018, 06:14:03 PM
Someone must have got Sanchez shook, I pm-ed him about it but still not a whimper?
Glad this thread got reopened, wonder how cons is dealing with all this extra attention?
Funny that they also used Flux of Pink Indians in their vid, probably no rhyme or reason though kinda like when Hockey used Assuck and Burzum in the same vid. Corporate algorithm probably pumped out that playlist and no one was the wiser.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: shitcunt on May 13, 2018, 06:20:25 PM
Both hardluck and JJ blocked me on IG. Can't stand when racists act all tough then run away as soon as somebody calls them on their shit. It's almost like people drawn to hateful ideologies are insecure little pussies deep down.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on May 13, 2018, 06:27:58 PM
what are they blocking you for?
let's try and keep them busy for the next few days
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Surf-goth on May 13, 2018, 06:34:40 PM
Kook me some more for saying the truth you elitist sissies
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 13, 2018, 06:39:44 PM
Here to hate on nazis.

Second photo:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BikBfqGlGZ5/?taken-by=skateboardmuseum (https://www.instagram.com/p/BikBfqGlGZ5/?taken-by=skateboardmuseum)

What sort of mindless asshole thinks this is cool?

looks like skateboardmuseum nuked the recent jj nazi pics he posted

what kind of museum erases history
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: CRITICAL BEATDOWN on May 13, 2018, 06:44:00 PM
Here to hate on nazis.

Second photo:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BikBfqGlGZ5/?taken-by=skateboardmuseum (https://www.instagram.com/p/BikBfqGlGZ5/?taken-by=skateboardmuseum)

What sort of mindless asshole thinks this is cool?

looks like skateboardmuseum nuked the recent jj nazi pics he posted

what kind of museum erases history
Why's your boy Sanch deleting posts too?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: saucy ragu on May 13, 2018, 06:47:02 PM
People get outraged so easily nowadays.

 ::)

manolo tapes/ ben k beef?
 (http://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=94872.0)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: shitcunt on May 13, 2018, 06:50:29 PM
People get outraged so easily nowadays.

 ::)

manolo tapes/ ben k beef?
 (http://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=94872.0)

Yeah for real. So you back a guy who literally wears swastikas but hate on a guy for dressing vaguely like a subculture where some members were racist? That's some next level cognitive dissonance.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Silky Johnson on May 13, 2018, 06:51:24 PM
Fucking hilarious Manolo you can't be that stupid
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Kevin Romar on May 13, 2018, 06:54:30 PM
Moral supremacists are inconsistent pieces of shit. Masking outward hate as social justice, these confused lone wolf weirdos point the finger at everyone but themselves.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: mattchew on May 13, 2018, 06:55:35 PM
Lots of crazy shit in this thread, but I gotta say, Manolo is taking the cake right now.
Shocking turn of events here.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 13, 2018, 07:00:10 PM
Here to hate on nazis.

Second photo:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BikBfqGlGZ5/?taken-by=skateboardmuseum (https://www.instagram.com/p/BikBfqGlGZ5/?taken-by=skateboardmuseum)

What sort of mindless asshole thinks this is cool?

looks like skateboardmuseum nuked the recent jj nazi pics he posted

what kind of museum erases history
Why's your boy Sanch deleting posts too?

its still on his facebook. jeremy wray is on that post too.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: HotnSpicyMcChicken on May 13, 2018, 07:04:37 PM
Jesus, that interview makes him look so stupid that I find it hard to believe he's able to function on his own as an adult.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: BacksideWallride on May 13, 2018, 07:07:00 PM
Someone must have got Sanchez shook, I pm-ed him about it but still not a whimper?
Glad this thread got reopened, wonder how cons is dealing with all this extra attention?
Funny that they also used Flux of Pink Indians in their vid, probably no rhyme or reason though kinda like when Hockey used Assuck and Burzum in the same vid. Corporate algorithm probably pumped out that playlist and no one was the wiser.

Or greased him with an ill Cons box

And Manolo... You were outraged by a NON racist skin... Weirdo
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on May 13, 2018, 07:11:54 PM
Someone must have got Sanchez shook, I pm-ed him about it but still not a whimper?
Glad this thread got reopened, wonder how cons is dealing with all this extra attention?
Funny that they also used Flux of Pink Indians in their vid, probably no rhyme or reason though kinda like when Hockey used Assuck and Burzum in the same vid. Corporate algorithm probably pumped out that playlist and no one was the wiser.

Or greased him with an ill Cons box

And Manolo... You were outraged by a NON racist skin... Weirdo
right? I didn't think he'd back down that easy... guess the #tatergate scandal really is a legit method for silencing people in the industry :o
And yeah, having an absolute fit over Ben K (pun intended) even though he clearly isn't racist/ listens to bands that are left in their politics, but letting the mad hatter slide is just mind boggling
also, lol @ skate museum for taking down that pic, it's not like they didn't see the swastika patch when they first posted it
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: augustmoon on May 13, 2018, 07:13:23 PM
People get outraged so easily nowadays.

are you being sarcastic?  weren't you JUST going on and on about how Ben Kadow shouldn't have a shaved head if he doesn't want to be labeled as a Nazi?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Smartass on May 13, 2018, 08:30:16 PM
People get outraged so easily nowadays.

I agree that people get outraged so easily without proof or about stupid shit like a white chick wearing an oriental dress.

But the shit we've been seeing has proof and being a nazi/beating your girl ain't stupid shit.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Lame_Nigga on May 13, 2018, 09:46:19 PM
I have no evidence whatsoever but I'm gonna just speculate he always wears that stupid hat on hat to cover a swastika head tattoo
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Dark Knight on May 13, 2018, 10:06:30 PM
People get outraged so easily nowadays.

are you being sarcastic?  weren't you JUST going on and on about how Ben Kadow shouldn't have a shaved head if he doesn't want to be labeled as a Nazi?

For fucking real.  You were on one about basically nothing.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: shannamal on May 13, 2018, 10:16:37 PM
Who among us didnít rock Nazi imagery as teenagers and then in our twenties and then our thirties and also last week on instagram? Let he who is without swastika patches throw the first stone...
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Atiba Applebum on May 14, 2018, 12:25:20 AM
Who among us didnít rock Nazi imagery as teenagers and then in our twenties and then our thirties and also last week on instagram? Let he who is without swastika patches throw the first stone...

To be fair, he is a Cons Ambassador, so he might have diplomatic immunity
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: somethingmustbreaknow on May 14, 2018, 12:25:59 AM
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32349597_10156451504582853_8745902008617140224_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeEZbOZ8fBjXwsjE29FCPPxYcIsjfu2L_VICXvhhKNiSBb5zWWJ53eYM4iJcTciLyESo1gqCB3bKIgfmLWBDC4_ZV7tcP-unhjM6UwhJZ4E-Bw&oh=a74321544141740c4915313060642262&oe=5B9719A5)
screengrab from other thread
for the sake of completeness.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Schneaumunn on May 14, 2018, 01:21:12 AM
Who among us didnít rock Nazi imagery as teenagers and then in our twenties and then our thirties and also last week on instagram? Let he who is without swastika patches throw the first stone...

I had a red Jimmy'Z beret with iron crosses on it. Not sure if Nazi but still shameful...
that would probably be lifeís a beach not jimmyíz. the ad was Gonz nosepicking in a ditch wearing cuffed pants that revealed the same maltese cross pattern on the inside
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Schneaumunn on May 14, 2018, 01:33:19 AM
Who among us didnít rock Nazi imagery as teenagers and then in our twenties and then our thirties and also last week on instagram? Let he who is without swastika patches throw the first stone...

To be fair, he is a Cons Ambassador, so he might have diplomatic immunity

LOL
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Schneaumunn on May 14, 2018, 02:02:37 AM
Schiddy mustíve taken down Priyaís thread then as well?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Shifty Flip on May 14, 2018, 03:03:13 AM
Who among us didnít rock Nazi imagery as teenagers and then in our twenties and then our thirties and also last week on instagram? Let he who is without swastika patches throw the first stone...

I had a red Jimmy'Z beret with iron crosses on it. Not sure if Nazi but still shameful...
that would probably be lifeís a beach not jimmyíz. the ad was Gonz nosepicking in a ditch wearing cuffed pants that revealed the same maltese cross pattern on the inside
As a little kid this exact Gonz add was on my wall beside an Indy add that I can't remember. They caused my father to explain that first, no man should wear a beret, and you shouldn't wear or draw images that you don't understand the meaning of, unless you want to randomly get knocked out throughout life.  It's a vivid memory. I still remember telling him, "No Dad, these have nothing to do with Nazis. It's skateboarding" Looking back, he probably thought his son turned poosey wanting to be a yellow belly Frenchie with a beret, while wearing iron crosses to school.

Did I miss it or did this thread just go 14 pages without anyone saying JJ can't be a Nazi because he belongs to a Hispanic car club? I remember that being said years ago.

Personally, I'm betting on JJesse not being a Nazi, just wanting attention so badly that he doesn't care if it's good or bad attention.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: feedmeseymour on May 14, 2018, 05:38:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP2nukRR6c4
larry david on nazis
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: fang on May 14, 2018, 07:38:11 AM
www.instagram.com/p/BitTS06Awow/?=en
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: feedmeseymour on May 14, 2018, 07:47:25 AM
www.instagram.com/p/BitTS06Awow/?=en
so is this post you trying to say he's cool with people besides straight white males?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: CRITICAL BEATDOWN on May 14, 2018, 08:16:39 AM
www.instagram.com/p/BitTS06Awow/?=en
so is this post you trying to say he's cool with people besides straight white males?
Look at the comments from Schmitty and Andy, "See, there's a black guy and a lesbian, can't be a nazi!"

I don't think Jason Jesse is a Nazi. He's probably a mild racist, but mostly I think he's a fucking idiot looking for shock value who is deserving of ALL of this being brought to light and ALL of the labels being attached to him. Shit isn't a joke. You want to fuck around and play a nazi on your weekend rides, it doesn't work like that.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: shark tits on May 14, 2018, 08:19:15 AM
where's schmidtty on there?
possibly the wrong thread but i think i wanna fuck babycakes.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: shitcunt on May 14, 2018, 08:49:16 AM
www.instagram.com/p/BitTS06Awow/?=en
so is this post you trying to say he's cool with people besides straight white males?
Look at the comments from Schmitty and Andy, "See, there's a black guy and a lesbian, can't be a nazi!"

I don't think Jason Jesse is a Nazi. He's probably a mild racist, but mostly I think he's a fucking idiot looking for shock value who is deserving of ALL of this being brought to light and ALL of the labels being attached to him. Shit isn't a joke. You want to fuck around and play a nazi on your weekend rides, it doesn't work like that.
I kinda agree. I don't think he'd have gotten this far if he was a straight up hood and cloak racist. That being said if you rep nazi gear and throw around slurs regularly and then hide when people call you on your shit I'm gonna assume the worst. At worst he's a nazi, at best he's a pussy looking for attention.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: conqueso on May 14, 2018, 09:17:53 AM
double hat and long sleeves is kind of like a hood and cloak though
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 14, 2018, 09:28:48 AM
the point here is that jason is not the only one

take note who enables and defends that shit

its a crew of scumbags patting each other on the back
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: SkateChimney on May 14, 2018, 09:55:55 AM
this is some shit a politician would do
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: halfsleeper on May 14, 2018, 10:39:22 AM
thread unlocked?

(https://i.imgur.com/7tnoqvql.jpg)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: IHOP on May 14, 2018, 10:42:21 AM
yea those andy and schmitty comments are so annoying.

Obviously he isnt going around beating up black people but like critical said, you wanna play nazi on the weekends you deserve the treatment as such.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: CRITICAL BEATDOWN on May 14, 2018, 10:42:55 AM
the point here is that jason is not the only one

take note who enables and defends that shit

its a crew of scumbags patting each other on the back

You can Kevin Bacon the entire industry back to patting this dude on the back.  Where are we supposed to draw the line? I'm honestly asking because I'm about to burn my Spitfires and Thunders (who use cross hammers, lightning bolts, etc).
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 14, 2018, 10:44:05 AM
thread unlocked?

(https://i.imgur.com/7tnoqvql.jpg)

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


you are a hero
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 14, 2018, 10:45:37 AM
the point here is that jason is not the only one

take note who enables and defends that shit

its a crew of scumbags patting each other on the back

You can Kevin Bacon the entire industry back to patting this dude on the back.  Where are we supposed to draw the line? I'm honestly asking because I'm about to burn my Spitfires and Thunders (who use cross hammers, lightning bolts, etc).

there is no such thing as white people

anyone saying different is lying to you

https://youtu.be/SG8j4crPxEQ (https://youtu.be/SG8j4crPxEQ)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: streetsoup on May 14, 2018, 10:53:09 AM
A racist Mormon? Unbelievable!

Would gnar
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on May 14, 2018, 10:55:10 AM
the point here is that jason is not the only one

take note who enables and defends that shit

its a crew of scumbags patting each other on the back

You can Kevin Bacon the entire industry back to patting this dude on the back.  Where are we supposed to draw the line? I'm honestly asking because I'm about to burn my Spitfires and Thunders (who use cross hammers, lightning bolts, etc).

there is no such thing as white people

anyone saying different is lying to you

https://youtu.be/SG8j4crPxEQ (https://youtu.be/SG8j4crPxEQ)
White is a social construct. Its not biological, but society gives it value. The experience of a person who is "white" is far different in society than a person who is "not white," even if there is no biological reason. Therefore, there are white people in a society which creates constructs such identities. That's the whole thing about "whiteness" that social justice advocates talk about and white crybabies lose their mind over.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 14, 2018, 10:56:18 AM
the point here is that jason is not the only one

take note who enables and defends that shit

its a crew of scumbags patting each other on the back


You can Kevin Bacon the entire industry back to patting this dude on the back.  Where are we supposed to draw the line? I'm honestly asking because I'm about to burn my Spitfires and Thunders (who use cross hammers, lightning bolts, etc).

there is no such thing as white people

anyone saying different is lying to you

https://youtu.be/SG8j4crPxEQ (https://youtu.be/SG8j4crPxEQ)
White is a social construct. Its not biological, but society gives it value. The experience of a person who is "white" is far different in society than a person who is "not white," even if there is no biological reason. Therefore, there are white people in a society which creates constructs such identities. That's the whole thing about "whiteness" that social justice advocates talk about and white crybabies lose their mind over.

i agree. its a social construct. and its toxic. i reject it entirely. peace.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: mattchew on May 14, 2018, 11:04:10 AM
thread unlocked?

(https://i.imgur.com/7tnoqvql.jpg)

Gnaríd.
They should actually make a run of these.
Would purchase.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 14, 2018, 11:08:22 AM
thread unlocked?

(https://i.imgur.com/7tnoqvql.jpg)

Gnaríd.
They should actually make a run of these.
Would purchase.

i would cop two. one to hang, one to bang.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: ShoeProblem on May 14, 2018, 11:11:25 AM
thread unlocked?

(https://i.imgur.com/7tnoqvql.jpg)

Print shirts. Make stickers. This is a winner. 
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: streetsoup on May 14, 2018, 11:22:53 AM
thread unlocked?

(https://i.imgur.com/7tnoqvql.jpg)

Gnaríd.
They should actually make a run of these.
Would purchase.

This, this is how Jason Jesse and Santa Cruz can redeem themselves lol. Next run of pro models for Jason attached with a signed apology.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Sick Duck on May 14, 2018, 11:24:16 AM

I don't think Jason Jesse is a Nazi. He's probably a mild racist, but mostly I think he's a fucking idiot looking for shock value who is deserving of ALL of this being brought to light and ALL of the labels being attached to him. Shit isn't a joke. You want to fuck around and play a nazi on your weekend rides, it doesn't work like that.
That's exactly what I think about this. Nobody would really even notice if he was just some burnout old school skater but being this whole American badass posterboy for converse doesn't really work with that sort of dumb shit
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 14, 2018, 12:10:41 PM
check out the first two instagram posts by stance socks and independent trucks since this thread dropped:

(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32390620_10156461305177853_4743447750983548928_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=0c240af320d78a42dca3a5d6adf7ecbe&oe=5B8A89D3)


(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32498277_10156461635277853_201667754137223168_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=b69a3bd6a653fff50f4118c89d20e71a&oe=5B84A1AC)

are you not entertained?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Alan on May 14, 2018, 12:21:06 PM
I'd prefer it if they'd address the issue, not some PR maneuvering.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 14, 2018, 12:23:40 PM
I'd prefer it if they'd address the issue, not some PR maneuvering.

(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32668033_10214897619461478_7678258196363870208_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=cecbb67ce6c4a3d8fe92d67bb5fd736e&oe=5B8E2BA5)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on May 14, 2018, 02:05:01 PM
I'd prefer it if they'd address the issue, not some PR maneuvering.
Too bad they refuse isn't it? Let's be real, refusing to discuss it and parading a bunch of tokens around is the equivalent of saying "We can't defend this, we know we are in the wrong, but we don't feel like taking responsibility for it so we'll just try to look better in other different ways." They are basically saying "yes, we know he's a nazi, no, we don't care, get over it. By the way, some of our best friends are black!"

We ain't buying it. We ain't letting it go.
If Converse and Santa Cruz want to back a nazi, then they should be known as companies who back nazis. People can decide how they feel like responding to that news however they like.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 14, 2018, 02:14:14 PM
I'd prefer it if they'd address the issue, not some PR maneuvering.
Too bad they refuse isn't it? Let's be real, refusing to discuss it and parading a bunch of tokens around is the equivalent of saying "We can't defend this, we know we are in the wrong, but we don't feel like taking responsibility for it so we'll just try to look better in other different ways." They are basically saying "yes, we know he's a nazi, no, we don't care, get over it. By the way, some of our best friends are black!"

We ain't buying it. We ain't letting it go.
If Converse and Santa Cruz want to back a nazi, then they should be known as companies who back nazis. People can decide how they feel like responding to that news however they like.

https://youtu.be/0ePQKD9iBfU (https://youtu.be/0ePQKD9iBfU)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: jc on May 14, 2018, 02:17:03 PM
www.instagram.com/p/BitTS06Awow/?=en
so is this post you trying to say he's cool with people besides straight white males?
Look at the comments from Schmitty and Andy, "See, there's a black guy and a lesbian, can't be a nazi!"

I don't think Jason Jesse is a Nazi. He's probably a mild racist, but mostly I think he's a fucking idiot looking for shock value who is deserving of ALL of this being brought to light and ALL of the labels being attached to him. Shit isn't a joke. You want to fuck around and play a nazi on your weekend rides, it doesn't work like that.


she's a lesbian????
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: via on May 14, 2018, 02:23:53 PM
I canít figure out which is more pathetic... being an actual white supremacist, or being a part time white supremacist just so you donít look like a pussy in front of your biker bois
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Sold Out on May 14, 2018, 02:34:47 PM
Everyone blast their Instagram with some comments. I commented on Oblow's photo of JJ saying "Racists should not be glorified" and he deleted my comment without addressing it.

Very bummed to see Brixton (one of my favorite brands) promoting JJ. I don't give a fuck about santa cruz or indy though.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 14, 2018, 02:59:24 PM
I commented on Oblow's photo of JJ saying "Racists should not be glorified" and he deleted my comment without addressing it

:(
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Manolo on May 14, 2018, 03:06:22 PM
People get outraged so easily nowadays.

 ::)

manolo tapes/ ben k beef?
 (http://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=94872.0)

Yeah for real. So you back a guy who literally wears swastikas but hate on a guy for dressing vaguely like a subculture where some members were racist? That's some next level cognitive dissonance.

I literally didn't say ANYTHING about Jason Jesse but you straight jump to conclusions.
See that's the whole problem right there, putting words into someones mouth. Then easily outraged people get fueled by some bad interpretation of what somebody said. It's exactly what happened with the kadow thing.
Straight pitchforks and outrage based on rumors or total bullshit.


Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 14, 2018, 03:10:08 PM
I literally didn't say ANYTHING

https://youtu.be/48cnvekmegI (https://youtu.be/48cnvekmegI)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: The Woodsman on May 14, 2018, 03:11:11 PM
thread unlocked?

(https://i.imgur.com/7tnoqvql.jpg)

Gnaríd.
They should actually make a run of these.
Would purchase.

This, this is how Jason Jesse and Santa Cruz can redeem themselves lol. Next run of pro models for Jason attached with a signed apology.

Holy shit Henry Sanchez posted this on his Insta.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: iwshilvdnfinland on May 14, 2018, 03:17:28 PM
^ but he voted for Trump so it means nothing other than he's clueless
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Silky Johnson on May 14, 2018, 03:22:53 PM
People get outraged so easily nowadays.

 ::)

manolo tapes/ ben k beef?
 (http://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=94872.0)

Yeah for real. So you back a guy who literally wears swastikas but hate on a guy for dressing vaguely like a subculture where some members were racist? That's some next level cognitive dissonance.

I literally didn't say ANYTHING about Jason Jesse but you straight jump to conclusions.
See that's the whole problem right there, putting words into someones mouth. Then easily outraged people get fueled by some bad interpretation of what somebody said. It's exactly what happened with the kadow thing.
Straight pitchforks and outrage based on rumors or total bullshit.
I understand you trying to save face but you called a kid a neo nazi because of the way he dresses and cuts his hair. you don't have the moral high ground you think you do & you're just coming off as a hypocrite.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Manolo on May 14, 2018, 03:26:17 PM
People get outraged so easily nowadays.

 ::)

manolo tapes/ ben k beef?
 (http://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=94872.0)

Yeah for real. So you back a guy who literally wears swastikas but hate on a guy for dressing vaguely like a subculture where some members were racist? That's some next level cognitive dissonance.

I literally didn't say ANYTHING about Jason Jesse but you straight jump to conclusions.
See that's the whole problem right there, putting words into someones mouth. Then easily outraged people get fueled by some bad interpretation of what somebody said. It's exactly what happened with the kadow thing.
Straight pitchforks and outrage based on rumors or total bullshit.
I understand you trying to save face but you called a kid a neo nazi because of the way he dresses and cuts his hair. you don't have the moral high ground you think you do & you're just coming off as a hypocrite.

Fucking trolls.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Silky Johnson on May 14, 2018, 03:27:10 PM
Oh definitely, better make an ig post calling them out and then delete after, sound good to you?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Paco Supreme on May 14, 2018, 03:30:52 PM
I commented on Oblow's photo of JJ saying "Racists should not be glorified" and he deleted my comment without addressing it

I don't know the dude, but oblow seems like the least hateful person out there, it's a shame he chose to do that
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Willie on May 14, 2018, 03:31:45 PM
I'm sure Hitler had some pictures with Jesse Owens too.




These are his buddies that his son interviewed for Juice Magazine.


https://itsgoingdown.org/stop-neo-nazi-band-highway-murderers-performing-san-jose/
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Spaced Cadet on May 14, 2018, 03:32:04 PM
People get outraged so easily nowadays.

 ::)

manolo tapes/ ben k beef?
 (http://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=94872.0)

Yeah for real. So you back a guy who literally wears swastikas but hate on a guy for dressing vaguely like a subculture where some members were racist? That's some next level cognitive dissonance.

I literally didn't say ANYTHING about Jason Jesse but you straight jump to conclusions.
See that's the whole problem right there, putting words into someones mouth. Then easily outraged people get fueled by some bad interpretation of what somebody said. It's exactly what happened with the kadow thing.
Straight pitchforks and outrage based on rumors or total bullshit.

Please elaborate on what you're ACTUAL beliefs on the matter are then instead of dancing around the fact and being a cunt. We would hate to put words in your mouth. I believe you are perfectly capable of producing the words that make you look like a fucking asshole without our help.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 14, 2018, 03:32:10 PM
People get outraged so easily nowadays.

 ::)

manolo tapes/ ben k beef?
 (http://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=94872.0)

Yeah for real. So you back a guy who literally wears swastikas but hate on a guy for dressing vaguely like a subculture where some members were racist? That's some next level cognitive dissonance.

I literally didn't say ANYTHING about Jason Jesse but you straight jump to conclusions.
See that's the whole problem right there, putting words into someones mouth. Then easily outraged people get fueled by some bad interpretation of what somebody said. It's exactly what happened with the kadow thing.
Straight pitchforks and outrage based on rumors or total bullshit.

what rumors and bullshit in this thread are you referring to?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Manolo on May 14, 2018, 03:33:26 PM
People get outraged so easily nowadays.

 ::)

manolo tapes/ ben k beef?
 (http://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=94872.0)

Yeah for real. So you back a guy who literally wears swastikas but hate on a guy for dressing vaguely like a subculture where some members were racist? That's some next level cognitive dissonance.

I literally didn't say ANYTHING about Jason Jesse but you straight jump to conclusions.
See that's the whole problem right there, putting words into someones mouth. Then easily outraged people get fueled by some bad interpretation of what somebody said. It's exactly what happened with the kadow thing.
Straight pitchforks and outrage based on rumors or total bullshit.

what rumors and bullshit in this thread are you referring to?

None i'm talking in general.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: GardenSkater77 on May 14, 2018, 03:38:56 PM
Apart from having a great collection of boards please take note of The Gershon Mosley Watermelon board. I think it was a slick. I was 14 when this came out and did not know Gershon was black. And even if I did I do not think I really understood that watermelon would be derogatory. I just liked the graphics. SCS made this deck btw....

Wonder if  Gershon was hyped? Maybe.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: iwshilvdnfinland on May 14, 2018, 03:39:14 PM
Slap is in full effect in 2018 man


it's really beautiful
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: mattchew on May 14, 2018, 03:39:59 PM
Dude; stick to the Caesar Singh and Ocean Howell re-edits.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Manolo on May 14, 2018, 03:41:15 PM
I won't. You're wrong.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: jakeumms on May 14, 2018, 03:44:17 PM


https://itsgoingdown.org/stop-neo-nazi-band-highway-murderers-performing-san-jose/

Not for nothing but that article that keeps getting posted on the Highway Murderers is on some bullshit. I know it's long but it gets pretty daffy by paragraph 11.

"The Highway Murderers are generally good at masking their white power and fascist symbols and aesthetics behind the cesspool of violent and authoritarian imagery that permeates in contemporary metal music scenes. These scenes are generally rife with extremely abusive, misogynistic, and racist social dynamics which are thinly veiled behind the misanthropic and anger filled aesthetics and imagery associated with these musical genres. Despite this, members have slipped up and revealed their true colors with careless social media posts that expose their true neo-nazi leanings."

That's like literally judging all of skateboarding because Jason Jessee rocks Nazi gear.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: sluggers on May 14, 2018, 03:44:23 PM
It is interesting skateboarding is going through this existential crisis, it has been an ongoing discussion in art for years.

Can you separate the art from the artist?

Do you like Wagner's music? Do you enjoy Roman Polanski's films? Knut Hamsun's novels?

Do their personal lives and ideas interfere with enjoyment of their art?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: GardenSkater77 on May 14, 2018, 03:44:33 PM
http://vertisdead.blogspot.com/2016/09/california-cheap-skates-1992.html?m=1

Here is the link to the Gershon watermelon board...
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: augustmoon on May 14, 2018, 03:46:00 PM


That's like literally judging all of skateboarding because Jason Jessee rocks Nazi gear.

it's literally nothing like that. 
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on May 14, 2018, 03:52:59 PM
^ but he voted for Trump so it means nothing other than he's clueless
(https://image.ibb.co/jWunfd/ST.jpg)
good for you. You my hero, masked man!
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: jakeumms on May 14, 2018, 03:55:09 PM


That's like literally judging all of skateboarding because Jason Jessee rocks Nazi gear.

it's literally nothing like that.

It is exactly like that. The writer of that article generalizes about an entire musical genre based on their limited experience to frame how a racist band can exist in plain sight. This is a very old debate in the underground music scene going back to before many of us were born. I'm just saying isn't there any other literature that can be passed around to prove that a Nazi band is a Nazi band without throwing an entire musical genre under the bus?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 14, 2018, 03:55:59 PM
^ but he voted for Trump so it means nothing other than he's clueless
(https://image.ibb.co/jWunfd/ST.jpg)
good for you. You my hero, masked man!

https://deadendskateboards.bigcartel.com/product/henry-sanchez
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Style Police on May 14, 2018, 04:05:09 PM
I hope this thread starts to gain some outside traction. People should know about this assclowns past.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Manolo on May 14, 2018, 04:05:36 PM
Oh definitely, better make an ig post calling them out and then delete after, sound good to you?

 Bill deleted my original post, i wish he didn't.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Manolo on May 14, 2018, 04:21:35 PM
People get outraged so easily nowadays.

 ::)

manolo tapes/ ben k beef?
 (http://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=94872.0)

Yeah for real. So you back a guy who literally wears swastikas but hate on a guy for dressing vaguely like a subculture where some members were racist? That's some next level cognitive dissonance.

I literally didn't say ANYTHING about Jason Jesse but you straight jump to conclusions.
See that's the whole problem right there, putting words into someones mouth. Then easily outraged people get fueled by some bad interpretation of what somebody said. It's exactly what happened with the kadow thing.
Straight pitchforks and outrage based on rumors or total bullshit.

Please elaborate on what you're ACTUAL beliefs on the matter are then instead of dancing around the fact and being a cunt. We would hate to put words in your mouth. I believe you are perfectly capable of producing the words that make you look like a fucking asshole without our help.

He shouldn't get any support from the industry if he's actually a white supremacist.
I'm not dancing around anything. This guy was saying i'm backing jason jesse and i didn't. Exactly the same as i did not say ben k was a nazi. So it's double bullshit.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: IHOP on May 14, 2018, 04:23:38 PM
It is interesting skateboarding is going through this existential crisis, it has been an ongoing discussion in art for years.

Can you separate the art from the artist?

Do you like Wagner's music? Do you enjoy Roman Polanski's films? Knut Hamsun's novels?

Do their personal lives and ideas interfere with enjoyment of their art?

In general I feel skateboarding is different than listening to burzum or death in june.  Personality and style (on and off the board) are a huge part of the skateboarder.  Personally I try not to listen to racist musicians even though it may not be presented in their work, but at least with music or film there is no face or person attached until you do some research.  I get really stoked just watching BA and Thiebaud's life through social media, not their skateboarding. 

So yea a racist "legend" in skateboarding shouldnt be tolerated because his "art" is just antics for the last 20 years.
On the contrary, Nyjah's "art" is so impressive and lacking in personality that people and brands tend to forget he's a rapist.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: IHOP on May 14, 2018, 04:28:47 PM
People get outraged so easily nowadays.

 ::)

manolo tapes/ ben k beef?
 (http://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=94872.0)

Yeah for real. So you back a guy who literally wears swastikas but hate on a guy for dressing vaguely like a subculture where some members were racist? That's some next level cognitive dissonance.

I literally didn't say ANYTHING about Jason Jesse but you straight jump to conclusions.
See that's the whole problem right there, putting words into someones mouth. Then easily outraged people get fueled by some bad interpretation of what somebody said. It's exactly what happened with the kadow thing.
Straight pitchforks and outrage based on rumors or total bullshit.

Please elaborate on what you're ACTUAL beliefs on the matter are then instead of dancing around the fact and being a cunt. We would hate to put words in your mouth. I believe you are perfectly capable of producing the words that make you look like a fucking asshole without our help.

He shouldn't get any support from the industry if he's actually a white supremacist.
I'm not dancing around anything. This guy was saying i'm backing jason jesse and i didn't. Exactly the same as i did not say ben k was a nazi. So it's double bullshit.

You ARE dancing around the subject, you just said "if hes actually a white supremacist" instead of taking a hard stance.  with the evidence provided you arent convinced that his views are harmful, only if he is "actually" a white supremacist?

Its not like we are putting words in your mouth, this thread is full of outrage against racism and jason jesse, and you decided to say "people get outraged so easily" after multiple examples of nazi imagery in his past.  You may not have said you back JJ, but that sort of reply shows you arent backing the people against him either.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: smellsdead on May 14, 2018, 04:34:49 PM
check out the first two instagram posts by stance socks and independent trucks since this thread dropped:

(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32390620_10156461305177853_4743447750983548928_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=0c240af320d78a42dca3a5d6adf7ecbe&oe=5B8A89D3)


(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32498277_10156461635277853_201667754137223168_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=b69a3bd6a653fff50f4118c89d20e71a&oe=5B84A1AC)

are you not entertained?

its like ten thousand spoons
when all you need is a knife
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: saucy ragu on May 14, 2018, 04:35:32 PM
People get outraged so easily nowadays.

 ::)

manolo tapes/ ben k beef?
 (http://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=94872.0)

Yeah for real. So you back a guy who literally wears swastikas but hate on a guy for dressing vaguely like a subculture where some members were racist? That's some next level cognitive dissonance.

I literally didn't say ANYTHING about Jason Jesse but you straight jump to conclusions.
See that's the whole problem right there, putting words into someones mouth. Then easily outraged people get fueled by some bad interpretation of what somebody said. It's exactly what happened with the kadow thing.
Straight pitchforks and outrage based on rumors or total bullshit.

Please elaborate on what you're ACTUAL beliefs on the matter are then instead of dancing around the fact and being a cunt. We would hate to put words in your mouth. I believe you are perfectly capable of producing the words that make you look like a fucking asshole without our help.

He shouldn't get any support from the industry if he's actually a white supremacist.
I'm not dancing around anything. This guy was saying i'm backing jason jesse and i didn't. Exactly the same as i did not say ben k was a nazi. So it's double bullshit.

You ARE dancing around the subject, you just said "if hes actually a white supremacist" instead of taking a hard stance.  with the evidence provided you arent convinced that his views are harmful, only if he is "actually" a white supremacist?

Its not like we are putting words in your mouth, this thread is full of outrage against racism and jason jesse, and you decided to say "people get outraged so easily" after multiple examples of nazi imagery in his past.  You may not have said you back JJ, but that sort of reply shows you arent backing the people against him either.


Manolo, you commented "People get outraged so easily" in a thread with "Jason Jessee is a Nazi" in the title, with photos of Jessee in or promoting Nazi imagery as proof, what the fuck type of connection did you think people would have about your comment? Shitcunt was right, you have some crazy cognitive dissonance going on.

Check out the context of the arena before you jump in. People are tired of companies promoting a guy who in turn likes promoting Nazi symbols and has published comments calling black people "niggers", and your first comment on the subject is akin to "man, people are being babies about this". It's a complete 180 from you getting butthurt on Kadow's choice of clothes even though 5 minutes of research would've told you he doesn't back racist ideology. The double standard bullshit is being pulled by you.

P.S. You're right: You didn't call him a Nazi, you only heavily suggested that he was a neo-nazi.

(http://image.prntscr.com/image/007e914123de4e559271eaafadce49a4.png)


Check yourself dog.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: sluggers on May 14, 2018, 04:37:11 PM
People get outraged so easily nowadays.

 ::)

manolo tapes/ ben k beef?
 (http://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=94872.0)

Yeah for real. So you back a guy who literally wears swastikas but hate on a guy for dressing vaguely like a subculture where some members were racist? That's some next level cognitive dissonance.

I literally didn't say ANYTHING about Jason Jesse but you straight jump to conclusions.
See that's the whole problem right there, putting words into someones mouth. Then easily outraged people get fueled by some bad interpretation of what somebody said. It's exactly what happened with the kadow thing.
Straight pitchforks and outrage based on rumors or total bullshit.

Please elaborate on what you're ACTUAL beliefs on the matter are then instead of dancing around the fact and being a cunt. We would hate to put words in your mouth. I believe you are perfectly capable of producing the words that make you look like a fucking asshole without our help.

He shouldn't get any support from the industry if he's actually a white supremacist.
I'm not dancing around anything. This guy was saying i'm backing jason jesse and i didn't. Exactly the same as i did not say ben k was a nazi. So it's double bullshit.

You ARE dancing around the subject, you just said "if hes actually a white supremacist" instead of taking a hard stance.  with the evidence provided you arent convinced that his views are harmful, only if he is "actually" a white supremacist?

Its not like we are putting words in your mouth, this thread is full of outrage against racism and jason jesse, and you decided to say "people get outraged so easily" after multiple examples of nazi imagery in his past.  You may not have said you back JJ, but that sort of reply shows you arent backing the people against him either.

But, where is the evidence JJ actually acted on his supposed views? All anyone has presented is he wears Nazi/Buddhist imagery.

Meanwhile, someone has said Nyjah is a rapist, Danny Way participated in killing a dude. Those are serious crimes.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Spaced Cadet on May 14, 2018, 04:38:55 PM
People get outraged so easily nowadays.

 ::)

manolo tapes/ ben k beef?
 (http://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=94872.0)

Yeah for real. So you back a guy who literally wears swastikas but hate on a guy for dressing vaguely like a subculture where some members were racist? That's some next level cognitive dissonance.

I literally didn't say ANYTHING about Jason Jesse but you straight jump to conclusions.
See that's the whole problem right there, putting words into someones mouth. Then easily outraged people get fueled by some bad interpretation of what somebody said. It's exactly what happened with the kadow thing.
Straight pitchforks and outrage based on rumors or total bullshit.

Please elaborate on what you're ACTUAL beliefs on the matter are then instead of dancing around the fact and being a cunt. We would hate to put words in your mouth. I believe you are perfectly capable of producing the words that make you look like a fucking asshole without our help.

He shouldn't get any support from the industry if he's actually a white supremacist.
I'm not dancing around anything. This guy was saying i'm backing jason jesse and i didn't. Exactly the same as i did not say ben k was a nazi. So it's double bullshit.

If you actually believe that then why even say something as stupid as "People get outraged so easily nowadays." and then expect people to not jump to a conclusion. Did you expect people to fucking ignore you and say nothing? Such a fucking stupid thing to say and then get defensive about when people assume something from was was obviously put there to attract attention. If you went to a BLM protest and said "people get outraged so easily nowadays" what the fuck do you think they are going to assume? That you are against them. Either you're a hypocrite that got caught or you're a fucking idiot. I'm betting both.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: augustmoon on May 14, 2018, 04:41:50 PM
the evidence is when he called Peanut Brown the N-word and got his ass kicked for it.   or him wearing a helmet with a sticker that says "white power" on it.  thats not just using questionable imagery, its pretty blatant racism. 
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: sluggers on May 14, 2018, 04:46:26 PM
Sticks and stones will break my bones, but names will never hurt me...
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: tura on May 14, 2018, 04:46:40 PM
Useless wooden toy banter front page has four threads hunting racism, plus a fifth on the second page. I feel like this is a pretty good summary of contemporary western culture.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: smokecrack on May 14, 2018, 04:48:34 PM
Regardless of what we say or what evidence is presented, Manolo will not admit that he is wrong.

Like saucy ragu mentioned, the cognitive dissonance is too much for him. I've seen this a thousand times. He's just gonna backpedal/try to save face without actually listening to what anyone has to say.

Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: via on May 14, 2018, 05:01:15 PM
Just so weíre clear, Manolo is more bummed on Ben Ks high waters than Jason Jesses swatikas?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Big Skatefase on May 14, 2018, 05:04:33 PM
i'm bummed on a grown man wearing a snapback over a beanie.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: DM on May 14, 2018, 05:10:33 PM
The swastika isn't Buddhist imagery anymore. Fuck off with that bullshit.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: via on May 14, 2018, 05:18:10 PM
The swastika isn't Buddhist imagery anymore. Fuck off with that bullshit.

Itís also a different (thought obviously extremely similar) skastika.

(https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-4a8991ba71486c4b05c3dacb2aa46b4a)

Itís worth pointing out that JJ photos are rocking the bad one, only to shut down the ďitís also a Buddhist symbolĒ rhetoric altogether. Heís wearing straight up nazi swastikas.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: sluggers on May 14, 2018, 05:29:46 PM
Oh no!

(https://www.japanese-buddhism.com/image-files/coke-swastika.jpg)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Manolo on May 14, 2018, 05:32:46 PM
People get outraged so easily nowadays.

 ::)

manolo tapes/ ben k beef?
 (http://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=94872.0)

Yeah for real. So you back a guy who literally wears swastikas but hate on a guy for dressing vaguely like a subculture where some members were racist? That's some next level cognitive dissonance.

I literally didn't say ANYTHING about Jason Jesse but you straight jump to conclusions.
See that's the whole problem right there, putting words into someones mouth. Then easily outraged people get fueled by some bad interpretation of what somebody said. It's exactly what happened with the kadow thing.
Straight pitchforks and outrage based on rumors or total bullshit.

Please elaborate on what you're ACTUAL beliefs on the matter are then instead of dancing around the fact and being a cunt. We would hate to put words in your mouth. I believe you are perfectly capable of producing the words that make you look like a fucking asshole without our help.

He shouldn't get any support from the industry if he's actually a white supremacist.
I'm not dancing around anything. This guy was saying i'm backing jason jesse and i didn't. Exactly the same as i did not say ben k was a nazi. So it's double bullshit.

If you actually believe that then why even say something as stupid as "People get outraged so easily nowadays." and then expect people to not jump to a conclusion. Did you expect people to fucking ignore you and say nothing? Such a fucking stupid thing to say and then get defensive about when people assume something from was was obviously put there to attract attention. If you went to a BLM protest and said "people get outraged so easily nowadays" what the fuck do you think they are going to assume? That you are against them. Either you're a hypocrite that got caught or you're a fucking idiot. I'm betting both.


They shouldn't. I'm talking in general on social media everybody is on edge and catching fire in a second. It's annoying and especially the fact that you have either to back something 1000% or not at all. And everybody seems to judge in seconds without knowing people. Just like you just did.
There's no discussion anymore. There is no balance.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Manolo on May 14, 2018, 05:47:56 PM
Regardless of what we say or what evidence is presented, Manolo will not admit that he is wrong.

Like saucy ragu mentioned, the cognitive dissonance is too much for him. I've seen this a thousand times. He's just gonna backpedal/try to save face without actually listening to what anyone has to say.



There's no need to save face or backpedal from anything. You guys are reading sideways jumping to conclusions and you're wrong. And i stand by my comment, i will not be happy to see anything ressembling neo nazi shit/ clothing / gear becoming a trend in skateboarding. It's ugly and associated with shitty people whether you like it or not.
Judging by this topic it seems everybody agrees we don't want this shit in skateboarding?

Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: sluggers on May 14, 2018, 05:49:12 PM
Natas had a satan board, crucify him!!!
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: shitcunt on May 14, 2018, 05:49:38 PM
People get outraged so easily nowadays.

 ::)

manolo tapes/ ben k beef?
 (http://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=94872.0)

Yeah for real. So you back a guy who literally wears swastikas but hate on a guy for dressing vaguely like a subculture where some members were racist? That's some next level cognitive dissonance.

I literally didn't say ANYTHING about Jason Jesse but you straight jump to conclusions.
See that's the whole problem right there, putting words into someones mouth. Then easily outraged people get fueled by some bad interpretation of what somebody said. It's exactly what happened with the kadow thing.
Straight pitchforks and outrage based on rumors or total bullshit.

Please elaborate on what you're ACTUAL beliefs on the matter are then instead of dancing around the fact and being a cunt. We would hate to put words in your mouth. I believe you are perfectly capable of producing the words that make you look like a fucking asshole without our help.

He shouldn't get any support from the industry if he's actually a white supremacist.
I'm not dancing around anything. This guy was saying i'm backing jason jesse and i didn't. Exactly the same as i did not say ben k was a nazi. So it's double bullshit.

If you actually believe that then why even say something as stupid as "People get outraged so easily nowadays." and then expect people to not jump to a conclusion. Did you expect people to fucking ignore you and say nothing? Such a fucking stupid thing to say and then get defensive about when people assume something from was was obviously put there to attract attention. If you went to a BLM protest and said "people get outraged so easily nowadays" what the fuck do you think they are going to assume? That you are against them. Either you're a hypocrite that got caught or you're a fucking idiot. I'm betting both.


They shouldn't. I'm talking in general on social media everybody is on edge and catching fire in a second. It's annoying and especially the fact that you have either to back something 1000% or not at all. And everybody seems to judge in seconds without knowing people. Just like you just did.
There's no discussion anymore. There is no balance.
For the record, I'm not an advocate of "canceled" culture at all. I do believe that people can and do change as they age and learn from their mistakes to become better people. The thing is everything discussed in this thread happened when JJ was 20+, aka a fully grown man who can be held accountable for his actions. People aren't really jumping to conclusions here. All we have are the facts:

He called a black skater a "Nigger" and got his ass beat for it

He hangs out with known white supremacists.

He has interviews throwing around "nigger" and "faggot" amongst other slurs.

He has consistently displayed swastikas on his clothing and skateboard for decades.

None of that is up for debate, the evidence against him is all his own actions. We know that companies that support him have scrubbed comments pointing out his past actions from their social media as well as deleting images and locking threads on slap itself. Basically all these other parties that cover for him have shown they're down with this sort of behavior. I'd reckon the vast majority of skaters are not and if they knew about JJ's history he wouldn't have a career. I'd love to see a statement from him or his sponsors explaining how he's changed and what he's doing to rectify his past actions, instead they're just trying to sweep it under the rug.

In all honesty I don't expect much to come of any of this. I'll stop buying indys and spitfires and cancel my thrasher subscription, as will a lot of people I've talked to about it, but that probably won't affect their bottom line at all. Apparently the industry in Cali is down for this sort of stuff, but I'm on the east coast so I don't give a fuck about that for the most part. I've heard aces are pretty good too.
 
Basically if something looks like shit and smells like shit and you try to tell me it's not shit I'm going to tell you to fuck right off.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: saucy ragu on May 14, 2018, 05:54:33 PM
Regardless of what we say or what evidence is presented, Manolo will not admit that he is wrong.

Like saucy ragu mentioned, the cognitive dissonance is too much for him. I've seen this a thousand times. He's just gonna backpedal/try to save face without actually listening to what anyone has to say.



There's no need to save face or backpedal from anything. You guys are reading sideways jumping to conclusions and you're wrong. And i stand by my comment, i will not be happy to see anything ressembling neo nazi shit/ clothing / gear becoming a trend in skateboarding. It's ugly and associated with shitty people whether you like it or not.
Judging by this topic it seems everybody agrees we don't want this shit in skateboarding?

Your comment was made at a bad time and you didn't read the context of the situation, just like the Kadow thing. Research would've help you on both occasions.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Chapingro on May 14, 2018, 05:57:44 PM
This is an interesting question to discuss. Personally, I've enjoyed reading novels and art produced by fascists *before* figuring out they were produced by fascist-of-center people. Hamsun, Salvador Dali, Louis Ferdinand Celine, and maybe some others. These were all artists who I got exposed to through some type of skateboarding/punk nexus (or a one degree of separation away from skating/punk).

How I personally approach is that I can still say things that I enjoyed about the art, but I can't do so without simultaneously bringing up the fascist influence and considering how that type of political ideology related to the artistic production. There's not always a 1:1 relationship, but there often is some type of mediated overlap.

I would seek to apply the same framework to skating - I can say positive things about JJ's skating but also highlight how the whole aesthetic that he's promoting has those wack fascistic (at worse) or soft-on-fascism (at "best") influences. Wack af.



It is interesting skateboarding is going through this existential crisis, it has been an ongoing discussion in art for years.

Can you separate the art from the artist?

Do you like Wagner's music? Do you enjoy Roman Polanski's films? Knut Hamsun's novels?

Do their personal lives and ideas interfere with enjoyment of their art?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: I sniff Jim Gagne's butthole all the time on May 14, 2018, 06:04:14 PM
This is an interesting question to discuss. Personally, I've enjoyed reading novels and art produced by fascists *before* figuring out they were produced by fascist-of-center people. Hamsun, Salvador Dali, Louis Ferdinand Celine, and maybe some others. These were all artists who I got exposed to through some type of skateboarding/punk nexus (or a one degree of separation away from skating/punk).

How I personally approach is that I can still say things that I enjoyed about the art, but I can't do so without simultaneously bringing up the fascist influence and considering how that type of political ideology related to the artistic production. There's not always a 1:1 relationship, but there often is some type of mediated overlap.

I would seek to apply the same framework to skating - I can say positive things about JJ's skating but also highlight how the whole aesthetic that he's promoting has those wack fascistic (at worse) or soft-on-fascism (at "best") influences. Wack af.



It is interesting skateboarding is going through this existential crisis, it has been an ongoing discussion in art for years.

Can you separate the art from the artist?

Do you like Wagner's music? Do you enjoy Roman Polanski's films? Knut Hamsun's novels?

Do their personal lives and ideas interfere with enjoyment of their art?
this reminds me of that fat professor from fresno who dissed barbara bush. 'i hate white men but then the next you know i've got white dick in my mouth.'
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: via on May 14, 2018, 06:07:18 PM
Manolo: your vague, generalized point about people not knowing people, being quick to judge, bandwagon, etc... why voice this seemingly random opinion in a thread about a man who, even if he has distanced himself from white supremist ideology of his youth(no evidence yet, but if), has consistently brandished swastikas for decades? You felt that this specific thread/topic was the best time to just chime in at random and make a point about people being quick to judge... not to mention while simultaneously saying you donít want nazi aesthetics in skateboarding?

You really donít understand why people are pulling your card on this?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Sad Hippo on May 14, 2018, 06:10:25 PM
Damn it, Santa Cruz has that Ninja Turtle collab coming out...

Can we still ride indys and be anti racist? Needs to know. Thanks.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 14, 2018, 06:19:14 PM
This is an interesting question to discuss. Personally, I've enjoyed reading novels and art produced by fascists *before* figuring out they were produced by fascist-of-center people. Hamsun, Salvador Dali, Louis Ferdinand Celine, and maybe some others. These were all artists who I got exposed to through some type of skateboarding/punk nexus (or a one degree of separation away from skating/punk).

How I personally approach is that I can still say things that I enjoyed about the art, but I can't do so without simultaneously bringing up the fascist influence and considering how that type of political ideology related to the artistic production. There's not always a 1:1 relationship, but there often is some type of mediated overlap.

I would seek to apply the same framework to skating - I can say positive things about JJ's skating but also highlight how the whole aesthetic that he's promoting has those wack fascistic (at worse) or soft-on-fascism (at "best") influences. Wack af.

i think the problem is less about JJ himself and more about why are his sponsors ok with it? its one thing to enjoy controversial art but to promote it to kids and people who may just see it as "hate looks cool" is terrible.

i also think its fine that people do sponsor him but to scrub any mention of the bad stuff is way fucked up.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Manolo on May 14, 2018, 06:31:00 PM
Manolo: your vague, generalized point about people not knowing people, being quick to judge, bandwagon, etc... why voice this seemingly random opinion in a thread about a man who, even if he has distanced himself from white supremist ideology of his youth(no evidence yet, but if), has consistently brandished swastikas for decades? You felt that this specific thread/topic was the best time to just chime in at random and make a point about people being quick to judge... not to mention while simultaneously saying you donít want nazi aesthetics in skateboarding?

You really donít understand why people are pulling your card on this?

I understand totally about the Jason Jesse thing. It's the way i put it again.. But i'm doing this cause i don't like how people are extreme in social media, you either back or hate something, it's seemingly random to try and spark some questioning. I'm vague cause i don't have time to write a book here also i might not have the skills, english is my 3rd language, it's tedious for me to write and it doesn't always sound exactly like what i meant in the first place..
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: DaSk8D00D on May 14, 2018, 06:33:25 PM
I was at the shop today looking at decks and dude tried to put me on to a Santa Cruz deck in my size I had to hit em with the (https://media.giphy.com/media/l0HlvtIPzPdt2usKs/200.gif)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on May 14, 2018, 06:35:58 PM
The swastika isn't Buddhist imagery anymore. Fuck off with that bullshit.
you're right, personally I think you should go on a quest to burn down any religious institutions still sporting it!

***
Sanch looks like he is back in business, hope he doesn't back down this time. Rest of the industry is shook and doesn't know what to do (lol @ indy and stance), surprised at the silence really...
also, shit cunt is on point in this thread. Manolo take the L on this one buddy!

Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Telly on May 14, 2018, 06:49:25 PM
So I made a friend look up hendry's insta for me and in my opinion he's already backpedaling a little. He can't take the heat for deleting it so he posts another picture of a Milwaukee battery and the text reads something about how Milwaukee has stepped it up in recent years. This is clearly bullshit as Milwaukee has been pretty much the best bang for the buck, at least in the contractors models.  If anything, dewalt has been stepping their game back up lately.  This does go deep if he's willing to say this ridiculous shit.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: feedmeseymour on May 14, 2018, 06:49:30 PM
http://vertisdead.blogspot.com/2016/09/california-cheap-skates-1992.html?m=1

Here is the link to the Gershon watermelon board...
Watermelon is delicious to be honest
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: DM on May 14, 2018, 07:42:26 PM
The swastika isn't Buddhist imagery anymore. Fuck off with that bullshit.
you're right, personally I think you should go on a quest to burn down any religious institutions still sporting it!

***
Sanch looks like he is back in business, hope he doesn't back down this time. Rest of the industry is shook and doesn't know what to do (lol @ indy and stance), surprised at the silence really...
also, shit cunt is on point in this thread. Manolo take the L on this one buddy!

Because Jason Jesse is clearly a Buddhist right. It means one thing to me in Europe and should mean the same in America. I've heard this excuse before and it's bollocks.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on May 14, 2018, 07:49:53 PM
No, but you should be able to tell the difference between a buddhist symbol that predates nazism by a few thousand years and an actual swastika.
Your argument was that it shouldn't be a buddhist image anymore, what are you basing that on? Just because it means something in Europe it should be banned in Asia because it looks similar? Sounds pretty facist to me there brah
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: doomstation55 on May 14, 2018, 07:51:46 PM
http://vertisdead.blogspot.com/2016/09/california-cheap-skates-1992.html?m=1

Here is the link to the Gershon watermelon board...
Watermelon is delicious to be honest

Hey remember Forrest's first pro board for Threat? People on here were stoked on this particular graphic. This wasn't the 90s either this was like 3-4 years ago. Nice one JT!

(http://www.socialskateboarding.com/assets/products/245505/full/1dtttedwblm812k.jpg)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Surf-goth on May 14, 2018, 07:59:53 PM
http://vertisdead.blogspot.com/2016/09/california-cheap-skates-1992.html?m=1

Here is the link to the Gershon watermelon board...
Watermelon is delicious to be honest

Hey remember Forrest's first pro board for Threat? People on here were stoked on this particular graphic. This wasn't the 90s either this was like 3-4 years ago. Nice one JT!

(http://www.socialskateboarding.com/assets/products/245505/full/1dtttedwblm812k.jpg)


Dude this is kinda like nappin negro it was probably forrest's idea. I like it it's funny. 
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: straight on May 14, 2018, 08:11:11 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VLbWnJGlyMU
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: DM on May 14, 2018, 08:13:34 PM
No, but you should be able to tell the difference between a buddhist symbol that predates nazism by a few thousand years and an actual swastika.
Your argument was that it shouldn't be a buddhist image anymore, what are you basing that on? Just because it means something in Europe it should be banned in Asia because it looks similar? Sounds pretty facist to me there brah
So you are being pedantic why? It's clear he's not using the Buddhist version to me, you and everyone. Nobody uses the Buddhist version in the western world. They use the nazi one and claim it's an ancient symbol. the national socialist party have changed it's meaning forever. It's illegal in Germany, I wonder why?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on May 14, 2018, 08:20:04 PM
Hey I'm not the one going around trying to ban a buddhist symbol. JJ never said he was buddhist, he's not using that excuse, he's a straight up fucktard that openly uses swastikas and should 100% be held accountable for his actions. You came out of nowhere claiming the buddhist symbol to be bullshit; it's not, but that's not the topic at hand here. Anyway, let's get back on said topic/ focus our anger:

The industry is still pretending like all this isn't happening. Oblow is deleting comments like it's his full-time occupation.
Anyone wanna go and blow up some of his sponsors DMs with me?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Cuban_Lynx on May 14, 2018, 08:20:25 PM
http://vertisdead.blogspot.com/2016/09/california-cheap-skates-1992.html?m=1

Here is the link to the Gershon watermelon board...
Watermelon is delicious to be honest

Hey remember Forrest's first pro board for Threat? People on here were stoked on this particular graphic. This wasn't the 90s either this was like 3-4 years ago. Nice one JT!

(http://www.socialskateboarding.com/assets/products/245505/full/1dtttedwblm812k.jpg)


Dude this is kinda like nappin negro it was probably forrest's idea. I like it it's funny.
Would have been great if this graphic was for Shurikenís Santa Cruz board.
(https://scene7.zumiez.com/is/image/zumiez/pdp_hero/Black-Label-Shannon-Blac-Man-8.0%26quot%3B--Skateboard-Deck-_197895-0007-front.jpg)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Doom patrol on May 14, 2018, 08:20:45 PM
I'm on holiday at my in-laws house and didn't bring anything to read, this thread has been a God send.
Shits wild and it just keeps going.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Cuban_Lynx on May 14, 2018, 08:31:14 PM
The swastika isn't Buddhist imagery anymore. Fuck off with that bullshit.
you're right, personally I think you should go on a quest to burn down any religious institutions still sporting it!

***
Sanch looks like he is back in business, hope he doesn't back down this time. Rest of the industry is shook and doesn't know what to do (lol @ indy and stance), surprised at the silence really...
also, shit cunt is on point in this thread. Manolo take the L on this one buddy!

Because Jason Jesse is clearly a Buddhist right. It means one thing to me in Europe and should mean the same in America. I've heard this excuse before and it's bollocks.
Well, this bike was named ďThe Black TibetanĒ, so that explains away the swastikas on these gloves.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e3/6f/a4/e36fa4f7fd4622085780c935cb96a30f.jpg)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: ManMelt on May 14, 2018, 08:37:33 PM
Fronside ollies and good, honest, old-fashioned Naziing
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: boogs on May 14, 2018, 08:41:55 PM
So I made a friend look up hendry's insta for me and in my opinion he's already backpedaling a little. He can't take the heat for deleting it so he posts another picture of a Milwaukee battery and the text reads something about how Milwaukee has stepped it up in recent years. This is clearly bullshit as Milwaukee has been pretty much the best bang for the buck, at least in the contractors models.  If anything, dewalt has been stepping their game back up lately.  This does go deep if he's willing to say this ridiculous shit.
ryobi, i mean mikida. i'm drunk :)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: sluggers on May 14, 2018, 08:45:37 PM
Lol at all the people who think Che Guevara is cool and wear his shirts while denouncing JJ.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: boogs on May 14, 2018, 08:49:05 PM
http://vertisdead.blogspot.com/2016/09/california-cheap-skates-1992.html?m=1

Here is the link to the Gershon watermelon board...
Watermelon is delicious to be honest

Hey remember Forrest's first pro board for Threat? People on here were stoked on this particular graphic. This wasn't the 90s either this was like 3-4 years ago. Nice one JT!

(http://www.socialskateboarding.com/assets/products/245505/full/1dtttedwblm812k.jpg)


Dude this is kinda like nappin negro it was probably forrest's idea. I like it it's funny.
Would have been great if this graphic was for Shurikenís Santa Cruz board.
(https://scene7.zumiez.com/is/image/zumiez/pdp_hero/Black-Label-Shannon-Blac-Man-8.0%26quot%3B--Skateboard-Deck-_197895-0007-front.jpg)
look like a black label to me
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: sluggers on May 14, 2018, 09:02:18 PM
Again, where is is it alleged JJ has ever done anyone any harm? Go after the dudes who have assaulted and harassed and worse in the industry.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on May 14, 2018, 09:02:56 PM
dig up sluggers, you're obvs of comprehension
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: GardenSkater77 on May 14, 2018, 09:28:11 PM
http://vertisdead.blogspot.com/2016/09/california-cheap-skates-1992.html?m=1

Here is the link to the Gershon watermelon board...
Watermelon is delicious to be honest

Hey remember Forrest's first pro board for Threat? People on here were stoked on this particular graphic. This wasn't the 90s either this was like 3-4 years ago. Nice one JT!

(http://www.socialskateboarding.com/assets/products/245505/full/1dtttedwblm812k.jpg)


Dude this is kinda like nappin negro it was probably forrest's idea. I like it it's funny.
Would have been great if this graphic was for Shurikenís Santa Cruz board.
(https://scene7.zumiez.com/is/image/zumiez/pdp_hero/Black-Label-Shannon-Blac-Man-8.0%26quot%3B--Skateboard-Deck-_197895-0007-front.jpg)

I thought the Shuriken board was a photo shop, but there it was on line. I understand that he may like weed, fried chicken, grape drink and watermelon (I like all these things as well) but this board is in terrible taste. And JT is from Alabama, so he should be more sensitive to stereotypical imagery. Even if Forrest thinks its funny JT should just tell him that he can't depict a black pac man gobbling up watermelon. I understand skateboard graphics should be funny/ironic at times, but what other sport/activity/lifestyle depicts such racist imagery? And we know Gershon, Shuriken and Forrest did not profit greatly from their respective sponsors who put out these decks.

BTW: I was ready a Gershon interview where he talks about racism in the industry. It's in a 1994 Thrasher.

http://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Burnout/2013/Magazine_1994/August_1994/TH0894Aug1994p46-47_800t.jpg

Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Surf-goth on May 14, 2018, 11:19:26 PM
http://vertisdead.blogspot.com/2016/09/california-cheap-skates-1992.html?m=1

Here is the link to the Gershon watermelon board...
Watermelon is delicious to be honest

Hey remember Forrest's first pro board for Threat? People on here were stoked on this particular graphic. This wasn't the 90s either this was like 3-4 years ago. Nice one JT!

(http://www.socialskateboarding.com/assets/products/245505/full/1dtttedwblm812k.jpg)


Dude this is kinda like nappin negro it was probably forrest's idea. I like it it's funny.
Would have been great if this graphic was for Shurikenís Santa Cruz board.
(https://scene7.zumiez.com/is/image/zumiez/pdp_hero/Black-Label-Shannon-Blac-Man-8.0%26quot%3B--Skateboard-Deck-_197895-0007-front.jpg)

I thought the Shuriken board was a photo shop, but there it was on line. I understand that he may like weed, fried chicken, grape drink and watermelon (I like all these things as well) but this board is in terrible taste. And JT is from Alabama, so he should be more sensitive to stereotypical imagery. Even if Forrest thinks its funny JT should just tell him that he can't depict a black pac man gobbling up watermelon. I understand skateboard graphics should be funny/ironic at times, but what other sport/activity/lifestyle depicts such racist imagery? And we know Gershon, Shuriken and Forrest did not profit greatly from their respective sponsors who put out these decks.

BTW: I was ready a Gershon interview where he talks about racism in the industry. It's in a 1994 Thrasher.

http://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Burnout/2013/Magazine_1994/August_1994/TH0894Aug1994p46-47_800t.jpg


Which board was first? And wow the ghost is a cop haha kinda fucked up
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: SodaJerk on May 15, 2018, 01:16:34 AM
http://vertisdead.blogspot.com/2016/09/california-cheap-skates-1992.html?m=1

Here is the link to the Gershon watermelon board...
Watermelon is delicious to be honest

Hey remember Forrest's first pro board for Threat? People on here were stoked on this particular graphic. This wasn't the 90s either this was like 3-4 years ago. Nice one JT!

(http://www.socialskateboarding.com/assets/products/245505/full/1dtttedwblm812k.jpg)


Dude this is kinda like nappin negro it was probably forrest's idea. I like it it's funny.
Would have been great if this graphic was for Shurikenís Santa Cruz board.
(https://scene7.zumiez.com/is/image/zumiez/pdp_hero/Black-Label-Shannon-Blac-Man-8.0%26quot%3B--Skateboard-Deck-_197895-0007-front.jpg)

I thought the Shuriken board was a photo shop, but there it was on line. I understand that he may like weed, fried chicken, grape drink and watermelon (I like all these things as well) but this board is in terrible taste. And JT is from Alabama, so he should be more sensitive to stereotypical imagery. Even if Forrest thinks its funny JT should just tell him that he can't depict a black pac man gobbling up watermelon. I understand skateboard graphics should be funny/ironic at times, but what other sport/activity/lifestyle depicts such racist imagery? And we know Gershon, Shuriken and Forrest did not profit greatly from their respective sponsors who put out these decks.

BTW: I was ready a Gershon interview where he talks about racism in the industry. It's in a 1994 Thrasher.

http://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Burnout/2013/Magazine_1994/August_1994/TH0894Aug1994p46-47_800t.jpg


Which board was first? And wow the ghost is a cop haha kinda fucked up
The ghosts are also KKK in case you missed that.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Atiba Applebum on May 15, 2018, 02:28:36 AM
http://vertisdead.blogspot.com/2016/09/california-cheap-skates-1992.html?m=1

Here is the link to the Gershon watermelon board...
Watermelon is delicious to be honest

Hey remember Forrest's first pro board for Threat? People on here were stoked on this particular graphic. This wasn't the 90s either this was like 3-4 years ago. Nice one JT!

(http://www.socialskateboarding.com/assets/products/245505/full/1dtttedwblm812k.jpg)


Dude this is kinda like nappin negro it was probably forrest's idea. I like it it's funny.
Would have been great if this graphic was for Shurikenís Santa Cruz board.
(https://scene7.zumiez.com/is/image/zumiez/pdp_hero/Black-Label-Shannon-Blac-Man-8.0%26quot%3B--Skateboard-Deck-_197895-0007-front.jpg)

I thought the Shuriken board was a photo shop, but there it was on line. I understand that he may like weed, fried chicken, grape drink and watermelon (I like all these things as well) but this board is in terrible taste. And JT is from Alabama, so he should be more sensitive to stereotypical imagery. Even if Forrest thinks its funny JT should just tell him that he can't depict a black pac man gobbling up watermelon. I understand skateboard graphics should be funny/ironic at times, but what other sport/activity/lifestyle depicts such racist imagery? And we know Gershon, Shuriken and Forrest did not profit greatly from their respective sponsors who put out these decks.

BTW: I was ready a Gershon interview where he talks about racism in the industry. It's in a 1994 Thrasher.

http://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Burnout/2013/Magazine_1994/August_1994/TH0894Aug1994p46-47_800t.jpg


Which board was first? And wow the ghost is a cop haha kinda fucked up
The ghosts are also KKK in case you missed that.

One of the KkK members is also a cop (topical) and aside from watermelon, there is purple drink, chicken, and weed. 
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: cosmicgypsies on May 15, 2018, 03:22:54 AM
if we straight up stop supporting companies/distros who back people who've done bad shit how many companies you think will be left
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: concerned_parent on May 15, 2018, 04:36:23 AM
So I made a friend look up hendry's insta for me and in my opinion he's already backpedaling a little. He can't take the heat for deleting it so he posts another picture of a Milwaukee battery and the text reads something about how Milwaukee has stepped it up in recent years. This is clearly bullshit as Milwaukee has been pretty much the best bang for the buck, at least in the contractors models.  If anything, dewalt has been stepping their game back up lately.  This does go deep if he's willing to say this ridiculous shit.

i'm going to have to agree here. i received a dewalt cordless drill for christmas last year and i must say not only am i impressed with the quality of an affordable consumer product but that the striking yellow is much more pleasant to display than the red. because red looks like blood.

Side note: totally stoked that i didn't buy these for my bike the other week in light of all of this.

https://www.lowbrowcustoms.com/jason-jessee-signature-series-motorcycle-grips.html (https://www.lowbrowcustoms.com/jason-jessee-signature-series-motorcycle-grips.html)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: ungzilla on May 15, 2018, 05:19:45 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/kNLF0oCm.jpg)


Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: excitableboy on May 15, 2018, 05:21:52 AM
Those board graphics shouldn't fly? Hm, I didnt know about that. That does seem a little easily outraged to me.

It is interesting to see how much that can change in four or so years. Supposing those graphics didnt offend anyone at the time. (If they do at all.) Everything sure gets scrutinized right now, guess that's what manolo meant. Obviously JJ wasnt for decades so this all seems fair enough.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: shitcunt on May 15, 2018, 07:23:23 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/kNLF0oCm.jpg)
I'm sure he's just sporting the "white power" sticker for the aesthetic.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 15, 2018, 07:28:10 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/kNLF0oCm.jpg)
I'm sure he's just sporting the "white power" sticker for the aesthetic.

here we have jason jessee sporting a helmet which features what is apparently a buddhist symbol of peace. we will have to ask jj personally what it means to him.

however, i think its pretty safe to assume that the sticker next to it which says "white power" means white power.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: ungzilla on May 15, 2018, 07:32:32 AM
are we sure he doesn't just really like his helmet
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: tortfeasor on May 15, 2018, 07:48:35 AM
it guess it was only a matter of time before this thread fell victim to whataboutisms and false equivalencies...

the posted decks and the jason jesse's consistent and prominent display of nazi imaginary are simply not comparable.  someone openly and proudly representing that they are associated a genocidal fascist cult and avowed enemy of the united states in various media outlets is not the same as poorly executed, tone deaf, and lazy graphic design.  one issue can be (and was) solved with the free market.  the other seeks to destroy the free market.  this thread is about one man who has repeatedly provided indisputable evidence that at the least he wants to be perceived as a nazi. if he is not an actual Nazi or Nazi sympathizer, these actions are only excusable by outright neurological and cognitive shortcomings.

so right now the way i see it... we are either exposing a nazi or witch hunting the skateboarding the equivalent of frankenstein's monster.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: doublesteveburger on May 15, 2018, 07:50:15 AM
wait, so you guys DONíT like Jason Jesse?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 15, 2018, 08:01:45 AM
where are all the old school vets who were his teammates? why haven't they defended him?

why hasn't jason jessee posted in this thread and explained hisself?

why is the only official response we saw is old deluxe box packer schmitty deleting the reciepts?

i will tell you why, because jason jessee is a fucking nazi and so are the motherfuckers that back him.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: CRITICAL BEATDOWN on May 15, 2018, 08:06:13 AM
Change.org with the boycott dude, link it to converse, indy, SC, and branch dist, you'll get a response if you have enough signatures.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 15, 2018, 08:10:13 AM
Change.org with the boycott dude, link it to converse, indy, SC, and branch dist, you'll get a response if you have enough signatures.

i ain't no activist. i just call it like i see it.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Smartass on May 15, 2018, 08:14:16 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/kNLF0oCm.jpg)
I'm sure he's just sporting the "white power" sticker for the aesthetic.

here we have jason jessee sporting a helmet which features what is apparently a buddhist symbol of peace. we will have to ask jj personally what it means to him.

however, i think its pretty safe to assume that the sticker next to it which says "white power" means white power.

Gentle stop doing these companies PR for them!
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: RIDEFLANNELV2 on May 15, 2018, 08:18:25 AM
Jason's daughter playing nazi dress-up for Halloween. Classy.
(https://i.imgur.com/pyy32V4.png)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 15, 2018, 08:20:05 AM
Jason's daughter playing nazi dress-up for Halloween. Classy.
(https://i.imgur.com/pyy32V4.png)

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: noninjasinstreetfighter on May 15, 2018, 08:20:27 AM
My guess is JJ was probably a nazi of some sort back in the day and maybe he was privately called out however many years ago and the dude has changed since then. Thatís what I hope at least, we shouldnít live life with hate in our hearts. If JJ has ďchangedĒ since his past, the dude definitely owes the world a response. skateboarding breaks barriers, and for someone like JJ to be associated with that nazi bullshit is a bummer.


nazi punks fuck off
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: CRITICAL BEATDOWN on May 15, 2018, 08:22:36 AM
Change.org with the boycott dude, link it to converse, indy, SC, and branch dist, you'll get a response if you have enough signatures.

i ain't no activist. i just call it like i see it.
Bet you don't vote either.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 15, 2018, 08:24:48 AM
Jason's daughter playing nazi dress-up for Halloween. Classy.
(https://i.imgur.com/pyy32V4.png)

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

this breaks my heart 100 types of ways

don't teach your children hate. this young woman my heart goes out to her.

and critical beatdown i do vote i am full grown and responsible. that's how i was raised.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: feedmeseymour on May 15, 2018, 08:33:53 AM
Jason's daughter playing nazi dress-up for Halloween. Classy.
(https://i.imgur.com/pyy32V4.png)

oh man

(http://media.giphy.com/media/oaPcDncoLfgjK/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 15, 2018, 08:49:55 AM
My guess is JJ was probably a nazi of some sort back in the day and maybe he was privately called out however many years ago and the dude has changed since then. Thatís what I hope at least, we shouldnít live life with hate in our hearts. If JJ has ďchangedĒ since his past, the dude definitely owes the world a response. skateboarding breaks barriers, and for someone like JJ to be associated with that nazi bullshit is a bummer.


nazi punks fuck off

why do you think he changed if he is still sporting nazi paraphernalia?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 15, 2018, 08:56:34 AM
respect your elders

(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32676105_10156463681642853_5961193050960035840_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=a17513be888f3e3c1f020c160906b6ba&oe=5B8C61F3)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Cuban_Lynx on May 15, 2018, 08:59:08 AM
The rest of her page is covered in nazi bullshit. Sheís old enough to know better, this is just fucking terrible.
https://instagram.com/p/_95_43ne3d/
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 15, 2018, 09:03:04 AM
guys its just a coincidence that he was once white power, still sports nazi stuff, listens to racists bands AND has a daughter thats into that stuff too. where is the evidence that he is doing anything wrong?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: calvinsdream on May 15, 2018, 09:05:00 AM
Jason's daughter playing nazi dress-up for Halloween. Classy.
(https://i.imgur.com/pyy32V4.png)

Buh buh buh it's just Buddhist symbols
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 15, 2018, 09:05:15 AM
guys its just a coincidence that he was once white power, still sports nazi stuff, listens to racists bands AND has a daughter thats into that stuff too. where is the evidence that he is doing anything wrong?


lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooo


BOY

(https://www.stayathomemum.com.au/cache/860x380-0/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/p02cclll-e1474779569136.jpg)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Allen. on May 15, 2018, 09:14:55 AM
That Nazi ass tho
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 15, 2018, 09:18:31 AM
i am not gonna lie scout is fine

don't tell my wife, i added scout on insta

we gotta save her
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: SodaJerk on May 15, 2018, 09:24:19 AM
That Nazi ass tho
I mean we were all thinking it.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: RIDEFLANNELV2 on May 15, 2018, 09:25:08 AM
Jason also use to own a used car dealership or studio in Watsonville called, Automodown. Confuzine did a visit there
shot some photos of Jason's sculptures. One featres a swastika.

http://www.confuzine.com/2011/03/10/jason-jessee-i-skateboard-but-im-an-artist-automodown-warehouse-watsonville-california-2004-2005/

Also if you search the hashtag #automodown on IG one of the first hits is a photo from The Highway Murderers. It's a piece of clothing? Signed by JJ and quotes "I honestly love you and your country" and features....you guessed it a swastika. Just look at the double "ss" too.

(https://i.imgur.com/FBXdUYZ.png)

Dude is trash.

Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: itsyourdad on May 15, 2018, 09:25:26 AM
That Nazi ass tho
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Hercules Rockefeller on May 15, 2018, 09:27:27 AM
That Nazi ass tho
I mean we were all jacking it.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 15, 2018, 09:28:42 AM
Jason also use to own a used car dealership or studio in Watsonville called, Automodown

LMAOOOOO

https://youtu.be/v4gCRuoviw0 (https://youtu.be/v4gCRuoviw0)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on May 15, 2018, 09:29:43 AM
The rest of her page is covered in nazi bullshit. Sheís old enough to know better, this is just fucking terrible.
https://instagram.com/p/_95_43ne3d/

Etsy.... as in she not only wears but designs and sells nazi shit? fuuuuuuuuuuck.


Also, I love whoever said it claiming "there are 5 threads calling people nazis on slap, this is what's wrong with america today" or whatever.
First, 4 out of 5 are sarcastic attempts to make Jessee not seem as bad as he clearly is. So there's only one.
Second, I'd say racism is a much bigger problem with our society today than people calling it out. Its weird, the number one form of terrorism in the U.S. is domestic white nationalist terrorism, but trying to call it out is the problem? ok.....
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Julz on May 15, 2018, 09:30:50 AM
I just tried listening to a full Highway murderers song... No ty.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Sick Duck on May 15, 2018, 09:32:49 AM
His daughter had a picture of her wearing a shitt that said "silly faggots, dicks are for chicks" while making a stupid duck face as her profile pic a couple months ago
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Zumiez And Xanax on May 15, 2018, 09:36:36 AM
i'd still fuck her
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Zumiez And Xanax on May 15, 2018, 09:38:52 AM
how old is she
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Sick Duck on May 15, 2018, 09:40:28 AM
Man those sculptures just scream crystal meth, goddamn
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 15, 2018, 09:41:28 AM
how old is she

scout is full grown

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/932/062/13a.jpg)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: PuffinMuffin on May 15, 2018, 09:43:36 AM
That Nazi ass tho
I mean we were all thinking it.

Yeah... no. I only fuck things I respect.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: SodaJerk on May 15, 2018, 09:47:00 AM
That Nazi ass tho
I mean we were all thinking it.

Yeah... no.
Statistical anomaly.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: noninjasinstreetfighter on May 15, 2018, 09:48:10 AM
My guess is JJ was probably a nazi of some sort back in the day and maybe he was privately called out however many years ago and the dude has changed since then. Thatís what I hope at least, we shouldnít live life with hate in our hearts. If JJ has ďchangedĒ since his past, the dude definitely owes the world a response. skateboarding breaks barriers, and for someone like JJ to be associated with that nazi bullshit is a bummer.


nazi punks fuck off

why do you think he changed if he is still sporting nazi paraphernalia?

My bad if thatís the case. And now just seeing that shit with his daughter. JJ is fucked in the head. Again, he needs to own up to his bullshit

Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Hercules Rockefeller on May 15, 2018, 09:52:15 AM
That Nazi ass tho
I mean we were all thinking it.

Yeah... no. I only fuck things I respect.

so no masturbation for you, huh?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: SodaJerk on May 15, 2018, 09:54:58 AM
Puffin with the quick change but not quick enough.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: PuffinMuffin on May 15, 2018, 10:07:54 AM
That Nazi ass tho
I mean we were all thinking it.

Yeah... no. I only fuck things I respect.

so no masturbation for you, huh?

Yes, and I don't fuck women.  8)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: calvinsdream on May 15, 2018, 10:12:53 AM
Fuck this clown.

You don't want to be called out for being a fucking nazi, then don't dress your whole family up in swastikas and german military shit. Hiding behind biker culture is a weak cop out.

I think JJ has no problem being associated with white power or being a little nazi fanboy, so let's indulge him and let people see what they're supporting.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: oyolar on May 15, 2018, 10:21:43 AM
it guess it was only a matter of time before this thread fell victim to whataboutisms and false equivalencies...

the posted decks and the jason jesse's consistent and prominent display of nazi imaginary are simply not comparable.  someone openly and proudly representing that they are associated a genocidal fascist cult and avowed enemy of the united states in various media outlets is not the same as poorly executed, tone deaf, and lazy graphic design.  one issue can be (and was) solved with the free market.  the other seeks to destroy the free market.  this thread is about one man who has repeatedly provided indisputable evidence that at the least he wants to be perceived as a nazi. if he is not an actual Nazi or Nazi sympathizer, these actions are only excusable by outright neurological and cognitive shortcomings.

so right now the way i see it... we are either exposing a nazi or witch hunting the skateboarding the equivalent of frankenstein's monster.

Regarding the racist graphics, there's also a difference as long as those pros are in on the joke and approved the graphics because then they're maybe trying to recontedtualize and strip these graphics of their racist power. I think Jovontae Turner touched on that when he approved the "Napping Negro" graphic.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Sick Duck on May 15, 2018, 10:53:58 AM
Still kinda weird when you realize the only people buying that shit are 15 year old white kids who listen to nothing but rap
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 15, 2018, 11:15:37 AM
if thrasher and indy have anything to do with it maybe some of those kids wont listen to rap and listen to the highway murderers instead
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: AreYouHarvinFun? on May 15, 2018, 11:19:32 AM
Regarding the racist graphics, there's also a difference as long as those pros are in on the joke and approved the graphics because then they're maybe hopefully trying to recontedtualize re-contextualize and strip these graphics of their racist power. I think Jovontae Turner touched on that when he approved the "Napping Negro" graphic.

Its 100% about stripping these images/symbols of their power. Love that we're having this conversation in skateboarding. Our diverse community's issues are like a microcosm of issues being experienced on a larger scale in general society.

Unfortunately, capitalism doesn't care about morals or ethics. Until we as a community send the message to Santa Cruz & CONS with our wallets, nothing will change. I am surprised though about CONS backing this guy knowing whats out there but then again, they kept a DUI manslaughterer on their roster (Kennedy) so who knows. We're in a weird part of history where politics is encroaching into capitalism and brands are forced to make choices on who they will appeal to from a political lens, almost consciously abandoning whole sections of consumers. CONS & Santa Cruz could be trying to stay on the fence and still sell to everyone. This thread is a perfect example of how these types of "strategic" angles from companies can be dangerous.

Didn't mean to go political here. Just thought it was necessary to explain the point I'm attempting to make. Fuck politics.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 15, 2018, 11:27:21 AM
the only way cons would do anything is if this got bigger attention. as it is now its just a fly they can ignore.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: AreYouHarvinFun? on May 15, 2018, 11:38:57 AM
the only way cons would do anything is if this got bigger attention. as it is now its just a fly they can ignore.

The fly can turn into an elephant if people stop buying CONS all together, at least any JJ product. Some of the problem though would be the kids who just don't give a shit about anything yet. They care about following their favorite pros, getting the shoes they want and whats popular, not what the company they buy from believes in. They'll scream racism all over SLAP cause its trendy these days then head to the shop later today for the new CONS drop. I'm not blaming the kids, they're going to do what they do. Maybe we should look at some of the minorities that are backed by CONS and see what they feel? Or if they feel at all cause I'm sure those CONS checks are beautiful for some of those dudes.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: AreYouHarvinFun? on May 15, 2018, 11:45:42 AM
The rest of her page is covered in nazi bullshit. Sheís old enough to know better, this is just fucking terrible.
https://instagram.com/p/_95_43ne3d/

Etsy.... as in she not only wears but designs and sells nazi shit? fuuuuuuuuuuck.


Also, I love whoever said it claiming "there are 5 threads calling people nazis on slap, this is what's wrong with america today" or whatever.
First, 4 out of 5 are sarcastic attempts to make Jessee not seem as bad as he clearly is. So there's only one.
Second, I'd say racism is a much bigger problem with our society today than people calling it out. Its weird, the number one form of terrorism in the U.S. is domestic white nationalist terrorism, but trying to call it out is the problem? ok.....


My man!
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: oyolar on May 15, 2018, 11:47:51 AM
the only way cons would do anything is if this got bigger attention. as it is now its just a fly they can ignore.

The fly can turn into an elephant if people stop buying CONS all together, at least any JJ product. Some of the problem though would be the kids who just don't give a shit about anything yet. They care about following their favorite pros, getting the shoes they want and whats popular, not what the company they buy from believes in. They'll scream racism all over SLAP cause its trendy these days then head to the shop later today for the new CONS drop. I'm not blaming the kids, they're going to do what they do. Maybe we should look at some of the minorities that are backed by CONS and see what they feel? Or if they feel at all cause I'm sure those CONS checks are beautiful for some of those dudes.

I think we could probably key people like ESPN, Sports Illustrated, Vice, Rolling Stone, etc. onto this thread and just call Cons out and ask them to answer for this.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: doomstation55 on May 15, 2018, 11:54:31 AM
Anddddddd Scout Jessee's gone private. That didn't take long. If nothing else it more than likely means they know we're talking about them.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: AreYouHarvinFun? on May 15, 2018, 11:54:59 AM
the only way cons would do anything is if this got bigger attention. as it is now its just a fly they can ignore.

The fly can turn into an elephant if people stop buying CONS all together, at least any JJ product. Some of the problem though would be the kids who just don't give a shit about anything yet. They care about following their favorite pros, getting the shoes they want and whats popular, not what the company they buy from believes in. They'll scream racism all over SLAP cause its trendy these days then head to the shop later today for the new CONS drop. I'm not blaming the kids, they're going to do what they do. Maybe we should look at some of the minorities that are backed by CONS and see what they feel? Or if they feel at all cause I'm sure those CONS checks are beautiful for some of those dudes.

I think we could probably key people like ESPN, Sports Illustrated, Vice, Rolling Stone, etc. onto this thread and just call Cons out and ask them to answer for this.

100%

Progress is slow to come but whatever it's worth in the past few minutes shes deleted that post & went private...
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Surf-goth on May 15, 2018, 11:57:50 AM
Guess she's reading this cause the instagram pic has been taken down
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: alex on May 15, 2018, 12:00:31 PM
the only way cons would do anything is if this got bigger attention. as it is now its just a fly they can ignore.

The fly can turn into an elephant if people stop buying CONS all together, at least any JJ product. Some of the problem though would be the kids who just don't give a shit about anything yet. They care about following their favorite pros, getting the shoes they want and whats popular, not what the company they buy from believes in. They'll scream racism all over SLAP cause its trendy these days then head to the shop later today for the new CONS drop. I'm not blaming the kids, they're going to do what they do. Maybe we should look at some of the minorities that are backed by CONS and see what they feel? Or if they feel at all cause I'm sure those CONS checks are beautiful for some of those dudes.

I think we could probably key people like ESPN, Sports Illustrated, Vice, Rolling Stone, etc. onto this thread and just call Cons out and ask them to answer for this.

100%

Progress is slow to come but whatever it's worth in the past few minutes shes deleted that post & went private...

Hilarious, that literally happened as I was browsing her profile.

As for media attention, kind of surprised Vice hasn't started on this yet, for how much they try and be on the forefront of things and have skate content.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: AreYouHarvinFun? on May 15, 2018, 12:04:10 PM
the only way cons would do anything is if this got bigger attention. as it is now its just a fly they can ignore.

The fly can turn into an elephant if people stop buying CONS all together, at least any JJ product. Some of the problem though would be the kids who just don't give a shit about anything yet. They care about following their favorite pros, getting the shoes they want and whats popular, not what the company they buy from believes in. They'll scream racism all over SLAP cause its trendy these days then head to the shop later today for the new CONS drop. I'm not blaming the kids, they're going to do what they do. Maybe we should look at some of the minorities that are backed by CONS and see what they feel? Or if they feel at all cause I'm sure those CONS checks are beautiful for some of those dudes.

I think we could probably key people like ESPN, Sports Illustrated, Vice, Rolling Stone, etc. onto this thread and just call Cons out and ask them to answer for this.

100%

Progress is slow to come but whatever it's worth in the past few minutes shes deleted that post & went private...

Hilarious, that literally happened as I was browsing her profile.

As for media attention, kind of surprised Vice hasn't started on this yet, for how much they try and be on the forefront of things and have skate content.

Where's our Vice guy lurking the SLAP threads!? O'dell, we need you bruh!
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: alex on May 15, 2018, 12:06:29 PM
the only way cons would do anything is if this got bigger attention. as it is now its just a fly they can ignore.

The fly can turn into an elephant if people stop buying CONS all together, at least any JJ product. Some of the problem though would be the kids who just don't give a shit about anything yet. They care about following their favorite pros, getting the shoes they want and whats popular, not what the company they buy from believes in. They'll scream racism all over SLAP cause its trendy these days then head to the shop later today for the new CONS drop. I'm not blaming the kids, they're going to do what they do. Maybe we should look at some of the minorities that are backed by CONS and see what they feel? Or if they feel at all cause I'm sure those CONS checks are beautiful for some of those dudes.

I think we could probably key people like ESPN, Sports Illustrated, Vice, Rolling Stone, etc. onto this thread and just call Cons out and ask them to answer for this.

100%

Progress is slow to come but whatever it's worth in the past few minutes shes deleted that post & went private...

Hilarious, that literally happened as I was browsing her profile.

As for media attention, kind of surprised Vice hasn't started on this yet, for how much they try and be on the forefront of things and have skate content.

Where's our Vice guy lurking the SLAP threads!? O'dell, we need you bruh!

After that SP article in GQ watch them get to it first, I'd assume that writer browses here.
Skateboarding's underground nazi culture you never knew about and how to dress to avoid it
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: QueeferMadness on May 15, 2018, 12:16:08 PM
You guys are all fucking losers, get a life.




Im skating a JJ santa cruz right now.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: fang on May 15, 2018, 12:30:55 PM
I can Nazi dat ass
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: JB on May 15, 2018, 12:32:32 PM
You guys are all fucking losers, get a life.




Im skating a JJ santa cruz right now.

so badass bro
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: heckler on May 15, 2018, 12:33:33 PM
Imagine being alive in 2018 and picking out a Santa Cruz from the shop wall, much less bragging about it on the internet.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Robert Baratheon on May 15, 2018, 12:33:48 PM
Imagine being alive in 2018 and picking out a Santa Cruz from the shop wall, much less bragging about it on the internet.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: tortfeasor on May 15, 2018, 12:36:17 PM
Imagine being alive in 2018 and picking out a Santa Cruz from the shop wall, much less bragging about it on the internet.

who ever is trying to gnar him so it stays at 666 i backed off.  its all yours. but heckler please know it was my intention to gnar you.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: slappies on May 15, 2018, 12:36:36 PM
You guys are all fucking losers, get a life.




Im skating a JJ santa cruz right now.

Hey, you're the guy who fucks dogs! Nazi dog fucker bragging about being a Nazi dog fucker.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: jonnysheen on May 15, 2018, 12:37:32 PM
Has anyone mentioned the Sex Pistols, McLaren or Westwood in this thread?

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/feb/27/never-mind-swastikas-secret-history-punky-jews

Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: slappies on May 15, 2018, 12:39:52 PM
Did anyone screenshot the post from JJ's daughter? I didn't get a chance to see it before she removed it on account of her being exposed as a Nazi piece of shit too.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: SodaJerk on May 15, 2018, 12:42:41 PM
You guys are all fucking losers, get a life.




Im skating a JJ santa cruz right now.
Do you ever cut yourself on that razor sharp edge?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Big Skatefase on May 15, 2018, 12:48:13 PM
nvm

Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: PuffinMuffin on May 15, 2018, 12:49:03 PM
Did anyone screenshot the post from JJ's daughter? I didn't get a chance to see it before she removed it on account of her being exposed as a Nazi piece of shit too.

You didn't miss much, short, flat butt, instagram hair and too much makeup.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: feedmeseymour on May 15, 2018, 12:49:20 PM
Imagine being alive in 2018 and picking out a Santa Cruz from the shop wall, much less bragging about it on the internet.
i imagine it looked something like this in the shop that day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H3rdfI28s0
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: pizza bitch on May 15, 2018, 12:49:45 PM
You guys are all fucking losers, get a life.




Im skating a JJ santa cruz right now.

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/0ff717cbe83e0ea3b01c76ac8b3aab60/tenor.gif?itemid=9497742)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: CRITICAL BEATDOWN on May 15, 2018, 12:50:15 PM
3/4 of the set up thread contains independent trucks.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Q1UAAOSwf-VWaehx/s-l300.jpg)
(http://socalskateshop.com/images/products/large_77572_IndependenTrucks_Jason__jessee_SS_orng_back_sum17.jpg)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: AntiAntiAnti on May 15, 2018, 12:50:27 PM
Hey hi there, Scout Jessee here...
To get one thing straight. I am not a Nazi.
The russian hat was an inglorious bastards halloween costume as a ĎNazi Killerí who kills for Nazi scalps..
You all seen the quintin taritino film?
The Ss shirt.. Was for Etsy 2 yrs ago. I sell and post crazy ass vintage Which that shirt was from a friends dying 90 yr old grandpa. Originally , it was one of the first hells angels motorcycles shops down in San Diego in the 1980ís that burned to the ground. Itís a trip I even found a shirt from back then- no racist thing behind posting it
Iím sorry you guys are wasting your time trying to tear apart my father, and now my life...
I am not a racist , homophob, sexist, prejudice, or any other sort of label you try an put on me. If you look at all my other stuff youíll notice I love all walks of life and am a very down to earth type of girl.
Itís saddens me, people waste there time on these types of forums , that have nothing better to do - like getting laid , seeing music, actually socializing- but talk shit.
Goodluck to all of you ✌🏻
Sorry this is how you waste your time.
I will no longer be engaging after this post

I know you guys will tear it apart and make it out to be negative in some way or another.

Who ever published this Should delete
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: HATE! on May 15, 2018, 12:54:05 PM
"I want to identify with a tough, confrontational image until I'm confronted with tough questions."
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Big Skatefase on May 15, 2018, 12:55:15 PM
you know you can get laid, see music, socialize, talk shit, and not be a nazi at the same time right?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: ShoeProblem on May 15, 2018, 12:57:06 PM
Seems like the sort of person who might call the cops on a BBQ imo, jmo
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: oyolar on May 15, 2018, 12:57:35 PM
you know you can get laid, see music, socialize, talk shit, and not be a nazi at the same time right?

+1

EDIT: I also think that calling out bullshit in a subculture and community I'm a part of and care about is a pretty fulfilling way to spend my time though.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: the_unknown_soldier on May 15, 2018, 12:57:59 PM
Hey hi there, Scout Jessee here...
To get one thing straight. I am not a Nazi.
The russian hat was an inglorious bastards halloween costume as a ĎNazi Killerí who kills for Nazi scalps..
You all seen the quintin taritino film?
The Ss shirt.. Was for Etsy 2 yrs ago. I sell and post crazy ass vintage Which that shirt was from a friends dying 90 yr old grandpa. Originally , it was one of the first hells angels motorcycles shops down in San Diego in the 1980ís that burned to the ground. Itís a trip I even found a shirt from back then- no racist thing behind posting it
Iím sorry you guys are wasting your time trying to tear apart my father, and now my life...
I am not a racist , homophob, sexist, prejudice, or any other sort of label you try an put on me. If you look at all my other stuff youíll notice I love all walks of life and am a very down to earth type of girl.
Itís saddens me, people waste there time on these types of forums , that have nothing better to do - like getting laid , seeing music, actually socializing- but talk shit.
Goodluck to all of you ✌🏻
Sorry this is how you waste your time.
I will no longer be engaging after this post

I know you guys will tear it apart and make it out to be negative in some way or another.

Who ever published this Should delete


Disparaging Nazi sympathizers on the Internet and having a fulfilling social life are not mutually exclusive. If anything they compliment each other well because it ensures that you don't spend your time with pieces of shit who sport Swastikas and spout the n-word as gratuitously as your father has.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: AreYouHarvinFun? on May 15, 2018, 12:59:13 PM
Hey hi there, Scout Jessee here...
To get one thing straight. I am not a Nazi.
The russian hat was an inglorious bastards halloween costume as a ĎNazi Killerí who kills for Nazi scalps..
You all seen the quintin taritino film?
The Ss shirt.. Was for Etsy 2 yrs ago. I sell and post crazy ass vintage Which that shirt was from a friends dying 90 yr old grandpa. Originally , it was one of the first hells angels motorcycles shops down in San Diego in the 1980ís that burned to the ground. Itís a trip I even found a shirt from back then- no racist thing behind posting it
Iím sorry you guys are wasting your time trying to tear apart my father, and now my life...
I am not a racist , homophob, sexist, prejudice, or any other sort of label you try an put on me. If you look at all my other stuff youíll notice I love all walks of life and am a very down to earth type of girl.
Itís saddens me, people waste there time on these types of forums , that have nothing better to do - like getting laid , seeing music, actually socializing- but talk shit.
Goodluck to all of you ✌🏻
Sorry this is how you waste your time.
I will no longer be engaging after this post

I know you guys will tear it apart and make it out to be negative in some way or another.

Who ever published this Should delete

This is hilarious...ly sad

She admits making the SS shirt saying she posts "crazy ass vintage" which in my mind confirms shes aware of the symbolism. Then in the very next sentence says "no racist thing behind posting it."

This is the problem with our society these days, we want to do anything and everything but not take the consequences for our actions.

Do what you want with your life but be proud of who you are and know that consequences, whether they be positive or negative, will follow your every decision. In this case, if you support all walks of life, then your post should've been some sort of apology and not full of excuses.

Good luck

Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: AreYouHarvinFun? on May 15, 2018, 01:01:21 PM
"I want to identify with a tough, confrontational image until I'm confronted with tough questions."
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: alex on May 15, 2018, 01:01:56 PM
I have to give her credit for coming here to address people talking about her, but she didn't really shed any light on what the first 18 pages of this thread are about. There's a lot of tough evidence in this thread about Jason Jessee, and for a lot of us to have enjoyed skateboarding as a way of bonding with different people it's shitty to see that someone with a lot of notoriety has all of these weird ties. 
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: doomstation55 on May 15, 2018, 01:02:54 PM
I will say this much, at least she's not doubling down like Hitlerjugend Sheckler.

You may think it's "crazy ass vintage" but to many people it's extremely hateful imagery and there will justifiably be backlash against you promoting it in any way.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 15, 2018, 01:03:08 PM
Hey hi there, Scout Jessee here...
To get one thing straight. I am not a Nazi.
The russian hat was an inglorious bastards halloween costume as a ĎNazi Killerí who kills for Nazi scalps..
You all seen the quintin taritino film?
The Ss shirt.. Was for Etsy 2 yrs ago. I sell and post crazy ass vintage Which that shirt was from a friends dying 90 yr old grandpa. Originally , it was one of the first hells angels motorcycles shops down in San Diego in the 1980ís that burned to the ground. Itís a trip I even found a shirt from back then- no racist thing behind posting it
Iím sorry you guys are wasting your time trying to tear apart my father, and now my life...
I am not a racist , homophob, sexist, prejudice, or any other sort of label you try an put on me. If you look at all my other stuff youíll notice I love all walks of life and am a very down to earth type of girl.
Itís saddens me, people waste there time on these types of forums , that have nothing better to do - like getting laid , seeing music, actually socializing- but talk shit.
Goodluck to all of you ✌🏻
Sorry this is how you waste your time.
I will no longer be engaging after this post

I know you guys will tear it apart and make it out to be negative in some way or another.

Who ever published this Should delete

And whatís the excuses for that racist band you seem to love so much?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Bobby Peru on May 15, 2018, 01:05:03 PM
"I want to identify with a tough, confrontational image until I'm confronted with tough questions."

This. I find that the people who espouse edginess as a means of exploring the fringe and expanding their mind tend to do the least self-exploration when someone calls them out on their own shit.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: SodaJerk on May 15, 2018, 01:05:19 PM
Hey hi there, Scout Jessee here...
To get one thing straight. I am not a Nazi.
The russian hat was an inglorious bastards halloween costume as a ĎNazi Killerí who kills for Nazi scalps..
You all seen the quintin taritino film?
The Ss shirt.. Was for Etsy 2 yrs ago. I sell and post crazy ass vintage Which that shirt was from a friends dying 90 yr old grandpa. Originally , it was one of the first hells angels motorcycles shops down in San Diego in the 1980ís that burned to the ground. Itís a trip I even found a shirt from back then- no racist thing behind posting it
Iím sorry you guys are wasting your time trying to tear apart my father, and now my life...
I am not a racist , homophob, sexist, prejudice, or any other sort of label you try an put on me. If you look at all my other stuff youíll notice I love all walks of life and am a very down to earth type of girl.
Itís saddens me, people waste there time on these types of forums , that have nothing better to do - like getting laid , seeing music, actually socializing- but talk shit.
Goodluck to all of you ✌🏻
Sorry this is how you waste your time.
I will no longer be engaging after this post

I know you guys will tear it apart and make it out to be negative in some way or another.

Who ever published this Should delete
That's all well and good and I give you the benefit of the doubt but it would really help if you had a word in your Dad's ear and had him say something publicly about the issue. That's really what most people expect.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: GardenSkater77 on May 15, 2018, 01:05:39 PM
That Nazi ass tho
I mean we were all thinking it.

Buttertoffee, oi! (German for butterscotch yo)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: SodaJerk on May 15, 2018, 01:07:24 PM
That Nazi ass tho
I mean we were all thinking it.

Buttertoffee, oi! (German for butterscotch yo)
*Note to self- remember this phrase and try to use it in conversation
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: ShoeProblem on May 15, 2018, 01:08:19 PM
People who describe themselves as "down to earth" are rarely so...
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: alex on May 15, 2018, 01:09:01 PM
I will say this much, at least she's not doubling down like Hitlerjugend Sheckler.

You may think it's "crazy ass vintage" but to many people it's extremely hateful imagery and there will justifiably be backlash against you promoting it in any way.

also isn't super disrespectful to wear Hell's angels gear if you're not a part of the club? Or is it ok if its crazy ass vintage?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Sick Duck on May 15, 2018, 01:17:43 PM
Lmao pretty sure the nazi killers in inglorious bastards didn't wear swastikas. I don't think jason jessee or his daughter are actually nazis but posting all that shit online and then getting shocked when people are offended is about as lame as it gets
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: tortfeasor on May 15, 2018, 01:19:54 PM
if jason jesse's daughter knows about this this thread and can get here at the speed of light (what was that an hour?) there is no fucking way that Jason, cons, SC or indy,  does not know about this thread and there is no fucking excuse for any of their silence. 

im not gunna trash scout because she showed more balls and tact than any of the aforementioned and owes skateboarding a hell of a lot less. 

as much as it pains me to say... i think i have to break up with indy.... :(
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Esquivel on May 15, 2018, 01:26:50 PM
Hey hi there, Scout Jessee here...
To get one thing straight. I am not a Nazi.
The russian hat was an inglorious bastards halloween costume as a ĎNazi Killerí who kills for Nazi scalps..
You all seen the quintin taritino film?
The Ss shirt.. Was for Etsy 2 yrs ago. I sell and post crazy ass vintage Which that shirt was from a friends dying 90 yr old grandpa. Originally , it was one of the first hells angels motorcycles shops down in San Diego in the 1980ís that burned to the ground. Itís a trip I even found a shirt from back then- no racist thing behind posting it
Iím sorry you guys are wasting your time trying to tear apart my father, and now my life...
I am not a racist , homophob, sexist, prejudice, or any other sort of label you try an put on me. If you look at all my other stuff youíll notice I love all walks of life and am a very down to earth type of girl.
Itís saddens me, people waste there time on these types of forums , that have nothing better to do - like getting laid , seeing music, actually socializing- but talk shit.
Goodluck to all of you ✌🏻
Sorry this is how you waste your time.
I will no longer be engaging after this post

I know you guys will tear it apart and make it out to be negative in some way or another.

Who ever published this Should delete

Then why not focus?

I'd recommend to no longer engage to nazi shit
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: straight on May 15, 2018, 01:27:03 PM
Post your balls and weíll talk.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: DCLOVE on May 15, 2018, 01:29:29 PM
Post your balls and weíll talk.

Iím a eunuch.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Chapingro on May 15, 2018, 01:33:34 PM
you know you can get laid, see music, socialize, talk shit, and not be a nazi at the same time right?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: sharkin on May 15, 2018, 01:35:47 PM
Are we really to believe that Jason Jesse's offspring came into this thread telling people to get laid?

Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: RIDEFLANNELV2 on May 15, 2018, 01:36:29 PM
Sorry but if you buddy up to a neo-nazi band like you and your father have you are both complicit. JJ has given The Highway Murderers a marketing platform and you even interviewed them. If you are not a neo-nazi, like you claim, you still embolden others who are. Fuck off.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: IHOP on May 15, 2018, 01:37:47 PM
I see you still reading scout

Respect for at least coming here to try and defend yourself, no matter how bad of a job you did at it.  You arent gonna change anyones minds here, we just want to hear from your dad.   
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Francis Xavier on May 15, 2018, 01:41:14 PM
Hey hi there, Scout Jessee here...
To get one thing straight. I am not a Nazi.
The russian hat was an inglorious bastards halloween costume as a ĎNazi Killerí who kills for Nazi scalps..
You all seen the quintin taritino film?
The Ss shirt.. Was for Etsy 2 yrs ago. I sell and post crazy ass vintage Which that shirt was from a friends dying 90 yr old grandpa. Originally , it was one of the first hells angels motorcycles shops down in San Diego in the 1980ís that burned to the ground. Itís a trip I even found a shirt from back then- no racist thing behind posting it
Iím sorry you guys are wasting your time trying to tear apart my father, and now my life...
I am not a racist , homophob, sexist, prejudice, or any other sort of label you try an put on me. If you look at all my other stuff youíll notice I love all walks of life and am a very down to earth type of girl.
Itís saddens me, people waste there time on these types of forums , that have nothing better to do - like getting laid , seeing music, actually socializing- but talk shit.
Goodluck to all of you ✌🏻
Sorry this is how you waste your time.
I will no longer be engaging after this post

I know you guys will tear it apart and make it out to be negative in some way or another.

Who ever published this Should delete

This is hilarious...ly sad

She admits making the SS shirt saying she posts "crazy ass vintage" which in my mind confirms shes aware of the symbolism. Then in the very next sentence says "no racist thing behind posting it."

This is the problem with our society these days, we want to do anything and everything but not take the consequences for our actions.

Do what you want with your life but be proud of who you are and know that consequences, whether they be positive or negative, will follow your every decision. In this case, if you support all walks of life, then your post should've been some sort of apology and not full of excuses.

Good Hard luck
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Mr. Fink on May 15, 2018, 01:45:15 PM
Yíall are crazy. Jason Jessee isnít a Nazi. Heís just a crazy ass vintage Russian Nazi killer who kills nazis for scalps in inglorious bastards. Watch a quintin taritino for goodneSS sake.

In all seriousness, real Nazi or biker Nazi wannabe, that shit is trash.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: PERM-KOOK on May 15, 2018, 01:49:41 PM
Thank you Scout Jesse for taking some time away from getting laid to address this issue. Also, thanks for making me realize what a pathetic fucking loser I am wasting my time on this gossip site. Iím out of here.
(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HllgNlu.gif)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Sick Duck on May 15, 2018, 01:51:29 PM
I've got some killer armenian genocide shirts for sale on etsy if anyone is interested. Not racist tho you fucking losers
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: pinkbananastatus on May 15, 2018, 01:52:36 PM
Anyone who defends their points with shit like calling the other party pathetic and telling them to get laid, I automatically assume every point that was made has been valid
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: CRAILFISH TO REVERT on May 15, 2018, 01:53:45 PM
I got self-laid earlier..does that count?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: SodaJerk on May 15, 2018, 01:54:45 PM
I got self-laid earlier..does that count?
Post a cum rag
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Sick Duck on May 15, 2018, 01:56:02 PM
Also kinda funny how christian hosoi said he pulled the plug on the rising sun logo because Japan raped and murdered the rest of asia but somehow rocking a swastika is just edgy
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: alex on May 15, 2018, 01:58:16 PM
I've got some killer armenian genocide shirts for sale on etsy if anyone is interested. Not racist tho you fucking losers

hit me up when you've got that crazy ass rwandan etsy shit
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: GAY on May 15, 2018, 01:59:26 PM
Thank you Scout Jesse for taking some time away from getting laid to address this issue. Also, thanks for making me realize what a pathetic fucking loser I am wasting my time on this gossip site. Iím out of here.
(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HllgNlu.gif)

OMG NO PLEASE DON'T GO WHAT WILL WE DO WITHOUT U
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: ArtVandelay on May 15, 2018, 02:02:22 PM
I kinda think sporting a swastika for a Halloween Costume almost makes it worse. It almost becomes a mockery at that point. That symbol was a symbol of fear for millions of people and represents some of the most hateful things that we as humans are capable of. To throw that on your skimpy costume for fun seems very disrespectful and humiliating for Jeiwsh people and minorties. Also the Nazi huntwrs in Inglorious Bastards did not sport swastikas. It was the other guys. The ones most people try not to associate themselves with...
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 15, 2018, 02:04:33 PM
Hey hi there, Scout Jessee here...
To get one thing straight. I am not a Nazi.

XOXOXOXO <3
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: fang on May 15, 2018, 02:05:07 PM
That Nazi aSS tho
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: CRAILFISH TO REVERT on May 15, 2018, 02:09:30 PM
I got self-laid earlier..does that count?
Post a cum rag

(https://s31.postimg.cc/rnqyh7iiz/indi.jpg)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: QueeferMadness on May 15, 2018, 02:10:46 PM
if jason jesse's daughter knows about this this thread and can get here at the speed of light (what was that an hour?) there is no fucking way that Jason, cons, SC or indy,  does not know about this thread and there is no fucking excuse for any of their silence. 

im not gunna trash scout because she showed more balls and tact than any of the aforementioned and owes skateboarding a hell of a lot less. 

as much as it pains me to say... i think i have to break up with indy.... :(

They dont give a fuck, slap crying and being SJW extraordinaires dont touch their bottom line.

Yall seriously need better things to do with your time, try skateboarding more. Most of you are terrible at it anyways. Why not focus this wasted energy into something productive?

Sad.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: SodaJerk on May 15, 2018, 02:13:44 PM
I got self-laid earlier..does that count?
Post a cum rag

(https://s31.postimg.cc/rnqyh7iiz/indi.jpg)
Heavy load. You eat avocados?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: oyolar on May 15, 2018, 02:18:31 PM
if jason jesse's daughter knows about this this thread and can get here at the speed of light (what was that an hour?) there is no fucking way that Jason, cons, SC or indy,  does not know about this thread and there is no fucking excuse for any of their silence. 

im not gunna trash scout because she showed more balls and tact than any of the aforementioned and owes skateboarding a hell of a lot less. 

as much as it pains me to say... i think i have to break up with indy.... :(

They dont give a fuck, slap crying and being SJW extraordinaires dont touch their bottom line.

Yall seriously need better things to do with your time, try skateboarding more. Most of you are terrible at it anyways. Why not focus this wasted energy into something productive?

Sad.

A+ totes original response.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: full of jerks on May 15, 2018, 02:19:36 PM
You leftist offense brigade types don't argue in good faith.  Intentionally misunderstanding and straw manning one of the Buddhist comments so that you can dunk on someone in a zippy post for example.  Therefore it would be pointless for anyone to respond to you.  You will just act indignant no matter what.

Also it is ironic to see these virtuous offended people have no problem commenting on Scout's appearance.  Leftists don't really believe their own shit.  You just want to cry bully.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: HangtenNoseblunt on May 15, 2018, 02:20:15 PM
the 2 hat thing is really strange
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: heckler on May 15, 2018, 02:21:31 PM
Skateboarding is literally the least productive thing you could do. What does it accomplish? What skills can I hone on a skateboard that will help me not end up like you later in life? How will the physical act of skateboarding more help me in the long run?

With that being said, I rip and I'm smarter than you and your bullshit "owning the libs!!" responses. Suck my dick.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: feedmeseymour on May 15, 2018, 02:21:40 PM
Wait till you guys see her ďspooky ghostĒ costume from the movie Django unchained
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: HATE! on May 15, 2018, 02:22:06 PM
if jason jesse's daughter knows about this this thread and can get here at the speed of light (what was that an hour?) there is no fucking way that Jason, cons, SC or indy,  does not know about this thread and there is no fucking excuse for any of their silence. 

im not gunna trash scout because she showed more balls and tact than any of the aforementioned and owes skateboarding a hell of a lot less. 

as much as it pains me to say... i think i have to break up with indy.... :(

They dont give a fuck, slap crying and being SJW extraordinaires dont touch their bottom line.

Yall seriously need better things to do with your time, try skateboarding more. Most of you are terrible at it anyways. Why not focus this wasted energy into something productive?

Sad.

A+ totes original response.


You're talking to a guy who regularly spends his time on here asking for his other account to be unbanned.  Talk about an expert on what to do with your free time on a forum.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Mr. Fink on May 15, 2018, 02:25:09 PM
Wait till you guys see her ďspooky ghostĒ costume from the movie Django unchained

So good
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: shark tits on May 15, 2018, 02:27:21 PM
Skateboarding is literally the least productive thing you could do. What does it accomplish? What skills can I hone on a skateboard that will help me not end up like you later in life? How will the physical act of skateboarding more help me in the long run?

With that being said, I rip and I'm smarter than you and your bullshit "owning the libs!!" responses. Suck my dick.
catching cups
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: ArtVandelay on May 15, 2018, 02:31:36 PM


Yall seriously need better things to do with your time, try skateboarding more.?

Sad.

oh fuck off dude - that's what everyone says in every slap argument ever. You're "wasting your time" just as much by posting your shit. You're probably the kind of person who throws their recycling in the trash and thinks "ah it doesn't matter, the world's already polluted." Well it matters to some people and not wanting to support racism matters to some people. Don't shame people for caring about this - you should go skateboard and don't look at this thread if you don't care.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: tortfeasor on May 15, 2018, 02:34:28 PM


Yall seriously need better things to do with your time, try skateboarding more.?

Sad.

oh fuck off dude - that's what everyone says in every slap argument ever. You're "wasting your time" just as much by posting your shit. You're probably the kind of person who throws their recycling in the trash and thinks "ah it doesn't matter, the world's already polluted." Well it matters to some people and not wanting to support racism matters to some people. Don't shame people for caring about this - you should go skateboard and don't look at this thread if you don't care.


dude hes a LARPer troll that wondered off a containment board. don't get caught in his bait. 
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: I.C. Weiner on May 15, 2018, 02:34:46 PM


Yall seriously need better things to do with your time, try skateboarding more.?

Sad.

oh fuck off dude - that's what everyone says in every slap argument ever. You're "wasting your time" just as much by posting your shit. You're probably the kind of person who throws their recycling in the trash and thinks "ah it doesn't matter, the world's already polluted." Well it matters to some people and not wanting to support racism matters to some people. Don't shame people for caring about this - you should go skateboard and don't look at this thread if you don't care.
nazis being in skating is fucked, but thank fuck for this reply. the conservatives of slap repost the same responses to every thread targeting something tough
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on May 15, 2018, 02:36:41 PM
  I don't think she deserves any credit with that post.  Rough trail she's on.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: cosmicgypsies on May 15, 2018, 02:38:49 PM
im not a nazi and had no racist intent but i deleted all my nazi posts on insta just in case

Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: HATE! on May 15, 2018, 02:40:08 PM
im not a nazi and had no racist intent but i deleted all my nazi posts on insta just in case

But are you homophob?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: cosmicgypsies on May 15, 2018, 02:42:29 PM
im not a nazi and had no racist intent but i deleted all my nazi posts on insta just in case

But are you homophob?

am very down to earth type of girl
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Alan on May 15, 2018, 02:43:27 PM
I would love it if reefermadness wasn't a diaper wearing troll and actually did buy a JJ board to own Slap.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Smartass on May 15, 2018, 02:49:58 PM
They dont give a fuck, slap crying and being SJW extraordinaires dont touch their bottom line.

Yall seriously need better things to do with your time, try skateboarding more. Most of you are terrible at it anyways. Why not focus this wasted energy into something productive?

Sad.

Homie we get it, you love the beanie hat look and can't let the champion of your style get trashed on. So you go and post up this up to make it look like you don't care and we shouldn't either.

We're going to be honest with you though,

Both that look and your post are fucking stupid.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: SodaJerk on May 15, 2018, 02:50:28 PM
im not a nazi and had no racist intent but i deleted all my nazi posts on insta just in case

But are you homophob?

am very down to earth type of girl
Post an ass
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Sick Duck on May 15, 2018, 02:52:12 PM
From scout jessee's tumblr
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/b4a99a2845ad2300c82016519ab4efa0/tumblr_n7bu7vvpfW1trbyodo1_640.jpg)
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/925e9d367a466b4dd5101c1f6e664e03/tumblr_n089iinB7P1trbyodo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Style Police on May 15, 2018, 03:11:46 PM
Hey hi there, Scout Jessee here...
To get one thing straight. I am not a Nazi.
The russian hat was an inglorious bastards halloween costume as a ĎNazi Killerí who kills for Nazi scalps..
You all seen the quintin taritino film?
The Ss shirt.. Was for Etsy 2 yrs ago. I sell and post crazy ass vintage Which that shirt was from a friends dying 90 yr old grandpa. Originally , it was one of the first hells angels motorcycles shops down in San Diego in the 1980ís that burned to the ground. Itís a trip I even found a shirt from back then- no racist thing behind posting it
Iím sorry you guys are wasting your time trying to tear apart my father, and now my life...
I am not a racist , homophob, sexist, prejudice, or any other sort of label you try an put on me. If you look at all my other stuff youíll notice I love all walks of life and am a very down to earth type of girl.
Itís saddens me, people waste there time on these types of forums , that have nothing better to do - like getting laid , seeing music, actually socializing- but talk shit.
Goodluck to all of you ✌🏻
Sorry this is how you waste your time.
I will no longer be engaging after this post

I know you guys will tear it apart and make it out to be negative in some way or another.

Who ever published this Should delete

Perfect. My name is Shane Sheckler. I feel your pain. It's super frustrating, cause like all I wanna do is have fun, and have a chill girl. DM me on the gram. Lets grab some coffee.

(https://s31.postimg.cc/n4jb9faln/Screen_Shot_2018-05-15_at_3.03.29_PM.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Lame_Nigga on May 15, 2018, 03:19:37 PM
if jason jesse's daughter knows about this this thread and can get here at the speed of light (what was that an hour?) there is no fucking way that Jason, cons, SC or indy,  does not know about this thread and there is no fucking excuse for any of their silence. 

im not gunna trash scout because she showed more balls and tact than any of the aforementioned and owes skateboarding a hell of a lot less. 

as much as it pains me to say... i think i have to break up with indy.... :(

They dont give a fuck, slap crying and being SJW extraordinaires dont touch their bottom line.

Yall seriously need better things to do with your time, try skateboarding more. Most of you are terrible at it anyways. Why not focus this wasted energy into something productive?

Sad.
She's not going to fuck you, Reefer.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: BacksideWallride on May 15, 2018, 03:21:42 PM
Who had that change.org suggestion? How does it work? Let's get on this shit. Boycott Cons and Santa Cruz now. And reefer madness we know you're a nazi, can someone ban that kook again please?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Style Police on May 15, 2018, 03:26:36 PM
Gary Roger & Weck should be all over this kook.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: BacksideWallride on May 15, 2018, 03:30:41 PM
Damn I just remembered this shit. Please someone in the know tell me Carrol and company truck-fucked this asshole

https://youtu.be/QRT2TfHLp-8?t=3m42s

Was that Keenan who got the slur?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on May 15, 2018, 03:36:53 PM
You leftist offense brigade types don't argue in good faith.  Intentionally misunderstanding and straw manning one of the Buddhist comments so that you can dunk on someone in a zippy post for example.  Therefore it would be pointless for anyone to respond to you.  You will just act indignant no matter what.

Also it is ironic to see these virtuous offended people have no problem commenting on Scout's appearance.  Leftists don't really believe their own shit.  You just want to cry bully.
  Alright so you've identified obvious problems with a select group of  spammers who infiltrate the 'the left' consistently but that has nothing to do with actual leftist ideas.  If you want to go around reacting to teenagers so you can get triggered into being a redneck fuck, go ahead.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 15, 2018, 04:17:43 PM
Who had that change.org suggestion? How does it work? Let's get on this shit. Boycott Cons and Santa Cruz now. And reefer madness we know you're a nazi, can someone ban that kook again please?

Why do so many people seem to conveniently leave out Independent from these statements.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: i used to skate on May 15, 2018, 04:32:54 PM
Yeah someone needs to get the word out to news outlets.  I remember this with Chase Gabor too, but nothing happened.  this seems slightly more doable with Cons being a corporate entity (much bigger than berrics)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Hairy Ballsagna on May 15, 2018, 04:41:33 PM
Where's that guy from Cons who wanted justice so badly when someone leaked a clip from Purple hours before it went online for free?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: snowman600 on May 15, 2018, 04:53:17 PM
scout's not core. she's a "coachella nazi". pass.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: BacksideWallride on May 15, 2018, 04:58:09 PM
Who had that change.org suggestion? How does it work? Let's get on this shit. Boycott Cons, Indy and Santa Cruz now. And reefer madness we know you're a nazi, can someone ban that kook again please?

Why do so many people seem to conveniently leave out Independent from these statements.

fixed
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Paco Supreme on May 15, 2018, 05:14:21 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi0VT4-HziQ/?taken-by=jasonjessee


Edit: I'm not here to defend the guy, but it's good to see him actually address it, even if they "i'm sorrys" seem a little laboured

Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 15, 2018, 05:19:57 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi0VT4-HziQ/?taken-by=jasonjessee


Edit: I'm not here to defend the guy, but it's good to see him actually address it, even if they "i'm sorrys" seem a little laboured

good job jason
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: el chino on May 15, 2018, 05:21:28 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi0VT4-HziQ/?taken-by=jasonjessee


Edit: I'm not here to defend the guy, but it's good to see him actually address it, even if they "i'm sorrys" seem a little laboured

good job jason
beat me to it. i really dont give a fuck, i dont support racism but im not going to ride fucking thunders. how do we know this isnt a plan to make us skate different shit?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: CrappyChan on May 15, 2018, 05:22:20 PM
Welp, is everyone happy? Can slap go back to being slap now?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: IHOP on May 15, 2018, 05:28:36 PM
Not happy about it, but glad it got addressed.  He should have at least said something along the lines of "in the past ive subscribed to cool guy biker shit, and it isnt cool its hurtful" which is the real issue not "im a loving guy who made mistakes" because anybody could say that. He didnt even say anything about loving all races, just everybody.

Without addressing the racism and actual harm, its just a general apology for his past, which for all we know is still who he is today.  Now he just wont be so open about his swazi fetish.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Chapingro on May 15, 2018, 05:28:52 PM
Welp, is everyone happy? Can slap go back to being slap now?

Threads like this are what make Slap great. Don't be a snowflake. Calling out nazism is the correct move. Great work Slap, even though this doesn't end it. This kook still associated with the Highway Murderers or whatever that nazi band is called, so we should keep chin checking these kooks.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: jakeumms on May 15, 2018, 05:30:47 PM
Thanks Jason for addressing this.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: slappies on May 15, 2018, 05:33:33 PM
The comments on his post are infuriating and ignorant. Yes, believe it or not reading the comments on something ended up being a bad idea.


That's not a fault of Jason's, but Jesus are people fucking dumb.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: oyolar on May 15, 2018, 05:34:51 PM
Yeah Jason, great jump for addressing...things?  But also only saying shit because people started calling you out for it?  And great job allowing recent photos of your swastika patch on your jacket to get published online and not addressing it in the post.

Saying "I'm sorry" does not mean "I've changed" when there's no real proof you've changed.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Cuban_Lynx on May 15, 2018, 05:36:42 PM
Glad he addressed it, but those photos arenít 24 years old.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: whaaaaat on May 15, 2018, 05:39:09 PM
I think the general argument is heís not a nazi, he just used the symbolism as a biker trying desperately to ďfreak out the squares.Ē The irony here is it appears some ďsquaresĒ likely told him it might affect his paycheck and now he is the one freaked out. Iím making assumptions though - he could be genuinely sorry. I like Jasonís skating and I love when a slap thread collides with reality
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: IHOP on May 15, 2018, 05:39:22 PM
Glad he addressed it, but those photos arenít 24 years old.


the crossed out 24 seemed very on purpose too
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Disco234 on May 15, 2018, 05:39:48 PM
Dude is a fucking has been mormon who thinks itís cute too use Nazi imagery as a novelty along with his catholic praying hands and Our Lady of Guadalupe that is disgraced by Santa Cruz skateboards as a marketing tool. Fuckem all I say fuckem all.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: mattchew on May 15, 2018, 05:40:26 PM
Letís be real.
Iíll give him credit for doing it.
But that was a weak ass apology.
Doesnít even mention race or racism.
Quick PR sweep under the rug type shit. 
We all know the dude sucks now and some Instagram video that will be forgotten in one weeks time doesnít change the fact that heís repped this shit for his entire fucking career.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 15, 2018, 05:42:15 PM
He didnít say shit about his best buddies in that racist band. I doubt he would ever disassociate with those thugs.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: HotnSpicyMcChicken on May 15, 2018, 05:42:26 PM
Not being able to make this video without having to look down at notes very two seconds that tell you to tell people you're not a nazi is about what I expected.

I guess good on him for "addressing" it, but man this dude is an illiterate clown.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: BacksideWallride on May 15, 2018, 05:45:42 PM
Jesus never seen so many heart emojis now he's everybody's hero. Fuck your 2 hats man
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: brent on May 15, 2018, 05:46:02 PM
I think the general argument is heís not a nazi, he just used the symbolism as a biker trying desperately to ďfreak out the squares.Ē The irony here is it appears some ďsquaresĒ likely told him it might affect his paycheck and now he is the one freaked out. Iím making assumptions though - he could be genuinely sorry. I like Jasonís skating and I love when a slap thread collides with reality
did he also call people niggers and faggots to "freak out the squares?"
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Griselda Blanco on May 15, 2018, 05:46:14 PM
I'll give him his props for at least saying something but he needs to come better than that. That was a half-assed apology. When it comes to shit like this an "I'm sorry, it was a long time ago and I've changed" doesn't cut it ... especially not when he was wearing gloves with swastikas on them not all that long ago.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: MarmaladeCoyote on May 15, 2018, 05:47:03 PM
Not sure how I feel about this whole thread.  Can we shift the conversation to discussing what a babe Scout Jessee is?  Woof. 
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: MarmaladeCoyote on May 15, 2018, 05:48:25 PM
I'll give him his props for at least saying something but he needs to come better than that. That was a half-assed apology. When it comes to shit like this an "I'm sorry, it was a long time ago and I've changed" doesn't cut it ... especially not when he was wearing gloves with swastikas on them not all that long ago.
Right?  Darly Angel say anything?  TNT?  Bueller?  Bueller?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on May 15, 2018, 05:55:54 PM
    He knew not to go on too much.  The 'I love you' sounded sincere.   I think there will be more with the "letter" he mentioned?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Atiba Applebum on May 15, 2018, 05:56:34 PM
If anyone wanted to really punish him they would have sicced PETA on him for that bullshit with the chickens in Pray For Me
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: mattchew on May 15, 2018, 05:58:14 PM
Not sure how I feel about this whole thread.  Can we shift the conversation to discussing what a babe Scout Jessee is?  Woof.

What are you uncertain about?

SLAP, which is basically a collection of the international skateboard community (weíve got all types from all over up in here), outed an openly white supremacist skateboarder to the point where his sponsors panicked and posted racially tokenized photos, and then the man himself had to at least ďaddressĒ it on social media.

SLAP is fucking cool and a positive representation of what skateboarding should be.

So again, why are you uncertain about this thread? Fencewalking is lame.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: shitcunt on May 15, 2018, 05:59:03 PM
Can't watch his apologie since he blocked me for calling him out on this in the first place. I feel pretty confident that it's a load of bullshit without seeing it though.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: AllBranFlakes69 on May 15, 2018, 05:59:07 PM
People get outraged so easily nowadays.

 ::)

manolo tapes/ ben k beef?
 (http://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=94872.0)

Yeah for real. So you back a guy who literally wears swastikas but hate on a guy for dressing vaguely like a subculture where some members were racist? That's some next level cognitive dissonance.

I literally didn't say ANYTHING about Jason Jesse but you straight jump to conclusions.
See that's the whole problem right there, putting words into someones mouth. Then easily outraged people get fueled by some bad interpretation of what somebody said. It's exactly what happened with the kadow thing.
Straight pitchforks and outrage based on rumors or total bullshit.

Please elaborate on what you're ACTUAL beliefs on the matter are then instead of dancing around the fact and being a cunt. We would hate to put words in your mouth. I believe you are perfectly capable of producing the words that make you look like a fucking asshole without our help.

He shouldn't get any support from the industry if he's actually a white supremacist.
I'm not dancing around anything. This guy was saying i'm backing jason jesse and i didn't. Exactly the same as i did not say ben k was a nazi. So it's double bullshit.

If you actually believe that then why even say something as stupid as "People get outraged so easily nowadays." and then expect people to not jump to a conclusion. Did you expect people to fucking ignore you and say nothing? Such a fucking stupid thing to say and then get defensive about when people assume something from was was obviously put there to attract attention. If you went to a BLM protest and said "people get outraged so easily nowadays" what the fuck do you think they are going to assume? That you are against them. Either you're a hypocrite that got caught or you're a fucking idiot. I'm betting both.


They shouldn't. I'm talking in general on social media everybody is on edge and catching fire in a second. It's annoying and especially the fact that you have either to back something 1000% or not at all. And everybody seems to judge in seconds without knowing people. Just like you just did.
There's no discussion anymore. There is no balance.
For the record, I'm not an advocate of "canceled" culture at all. I do believe that people can and do change as they age and learn from their mistakes to become better people. The thing is everything discussed in this thread happened when JJ was 20+, aka a fully grown man who can be held accountable for his actions. People aren't really jumping to conclusions here. All we have are the facts:

He called a black skater a "Nigger" and got his ass beat for it

He hangs out with known white supremacists.

He has interviews throwing around "nigger" and "faggot" amongst other slurs.

He has consistently displayed swastikas on his clothing and skateboard for decades.

None of that is up for debate, the evidence against him is all his own actions. We know that companies that support him have scrubbed comments pointing out his past actions from their social media as well as deleting images and locking threads on slap itself. Basically all these other parties that cover for him have shown they're down with this sort of behavior. I'd reckon the vast majority of skaters are not and if they knew about JJ's history he wouldn't have a career. I'd love to see a statement from him or his sponsors explaining how he's changed and what he's doing to rectify his past actions, instead they're just trying to sweep it under the rug.

In all honesty I don't expect much to come of any of this. I'll stop buying indys and spitfires and cancel my thrasher subscription, as will a lot of people I've talked to about it, but that probably won't affect their bottom line at all. Apparently the industry in Cali is down for this sort of stuff, but I'm on the east coast so I don't give a fuck about that for the most part. I've heard aces are pretty good too.
 
Basically if something looks like shit and smells like shit and you try to tell me it's not shit I'm going to tell you to fuck right off.

Well said. Jason Jesse is a racist wiener and I'm bummed he just got a Thrasher cover.

Also, I stopped buying Indy's the first time I tried Ace's. They are far superior truck mechanisms.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: ALABAMAMAN on May 15, 2018, 06:03:34 PM
Jason Jessee of white power...
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Joust Ostrich on May 15, 2018, 06:04:36 PM
I'd be more likely to accept this apology if it contained a #slap #notthatslapDaryl #slappals  or #slapgotJJshook

Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 15, 2018, 06:05:43 PM
Thrasher and Indy saying something still should be expected but they never would since they thrive off sketchyness and being core.

Pretty amazing that thrasher bans people from their magazine for dumbshit and gives covers to guys they know are sketchy.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: leticia on May 15, 2018, 06:08:59 PM
It took him a total of five minutes...at least he gave me enough time to screen grab it.   :)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: bongboarder420 on May 15, 2018, 06:10:27 PM
o'blow blocked me on ig after deleting my jjs are a racist comment twice
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: leticia on May 15, 2018, 06:18:45 PM
It took him a total of five minutes...at least he gave me enough time to screen grab it.   :)

Let me try this again...not very good at posting fotos on here. :-\
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: AllBranFlakes69 on May 15, 2018, 06:19:47 PM
That Nazi ass tho
I mean we were all thinking it.

Yeah... no. I only fuck things I respect.
Like puffin muffins?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: feedmeseymour on May 15, 2018, 06:22:49 PM
Fuck outta here evolving. The only one still evolving is he who shall not be @Ďed https://instagram.com/p/BhkU6I0nnHn/
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 15, 2018, 06:24:10 PM
It took him a total of five minutes...at least he gave me enough time to screen grab it.   :)

Let me try this again...not very good at posting fotos on here. :-\

So why did you sponsor him back in the day? Bs if you try to say you didnít know this. Also your boy helsmeth is down with the highway murderers too.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: iwshilvdnfinland on May 15, 2018, 06:26:45 PM
your move Daryl.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: via on May 15, 2018, 06:29:31 PM
your move Daryl.

I think he already did the super vague ďthere are things in my past people are bummed onĒ post. He deleted it though.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: happenstance on May 15, 2018, 06:33:16 PM
It took him a total of five minutes...at least he gave me enough time to screen grab it.   :)

Let me try this again...not very good at posting fotos on here. :-\
Care to clarify on the bullying texts part?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: alex on May 15, 2018, 06:42:05 PM
Interesting seeing who liked that post. I'm curious what people like sage and some of the east coast skaters response is.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Shifty Flip on May 15, 2018, 06:42:36 PM
It took him a total of five minutes...at least he gave me enough time to screen grab it.   :)

Let me try this again...not very good at posting fotos on here. :-\
Care to clarify on the bullying texts part?
Happystance beat me to it. Inquiring minds want to know/see screen shots.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Shifty Flip on May 15, 2018, 06:45:53 PM
Id say he's listening here. Gntd.
The letter, hands written, even crossed out the 24 years ago, and changed to the past.

Edit. Sorry I can't figure out how to post the screenshot
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: leticia on May 15, 2018, 06:47:40 PM
It took him a total of five minutes...at least he gave me enough time to screen grab it.   :)

Let me try this again...not very good at posting fotos on here. :-\

So why did you sponsor him back in the day? Bs if you try to say you didnít know this. Also your boy helsmeth is down with the highway murderers too.

Sorry, but I didn't know, he hid it really well from me. When people started telling me he was a racist, I was shocked because I am Mexican and didn't understand how I never felt vibed from him.  Then people told me that I had a "hall pass" from him because he liked being associated with the Mexican Car Club vibe.  As for Casey, he isn't writing swastikas and calling people faggots and niggers to their faces.  Don't even try to put them in the same league.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: leticia on May 15, 2018, 06:49:13 PM
It took him a total of five minutes...at least he gave me enough time to screen grab it.   :)

Let me try this again...not very good at posting fotos on here. :-\
Care to clarify on the bullying texts part?

Yeah.  I have texts from him up until a few weeks ago, just taunting and trying to bully me.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: via on May 15, 2018, 06:51:34 PM
ďIím sorry you guys remembered some of the stuff I said, but that was a long time ago. And look, swastikas just look really cool, and my biker buddies will think Iím a wuss if I stop wearing them. Please donít get me kicked off my sponsors.Ē
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 15, 2018, 06:54:39 PM
Casey is on the highway murderers instagram just like Jessee. Why is it different for Casey? Itís a racist band why is he absolved. Is it because he hasnít wronged you guys yet?

None of this detracts from Jesseeís shittyness but itís hard not to associate consolidated as an enabler since it was going on while he was on the team. Scott Bourne also seemed to not have a problem with jj based on liberal use of faggot in the pray for me movie.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: poopnutsupreme on May 15, 2018, 07:07:53 PM
ďIím sorry you guys remembered some of the stuff I said, but that was a long time ago. And look, swastikas just look really cool, and my biker buddies will think Iím a wuss if I stop wearing them. Please donít get me kicked off my sponsors.Ē

The worst part is this seems to be working. So many shitty comments with hearts (including his sponsors) and people saying the PC police is after him. Since when was this considered PC?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: leticia on May 15, 2018, 07:08:29 PM
Casey is on the highway murderers instagram just like Jessee. Why is it different for Casey? Itís a racist band why is he absolved. Is it because he hasnít wronged you guys yet?

None of this detracts from Jesseeís shittyness but itís hard not to associate consolidated as an enabler since it was going on while he was on the team. Scott Bourne also seemed to not have a problem with jj based on liberal use of faggot in the pray for me movie.

Absolutely not.  Casey is not a racist. 
I'm sorry, but don't reverse this on me.  I can't speak for Scott, but Birdo and I wanted nothing to do with the documentary for this exact reason.  We had dirt on him, but knew it was going to be a movie trying to glamorize him, and we knew if we were to say stuff, we would be vilified, so we refused.
This is exactly why I hadn't gotten on here before..I want to deal with the issue at hand, not the "tabloid" version....I want to stick straight to facts, not speculation...
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: leticia on May 15, 2018, 07:10:11 PM
Casey is on the highway murderers instagram just like Jessee. Why is it different for Casey? Itís a racist band why is he absolved. Is it because he hasnít wronged you guys yet?

None of this detracts from Jesseeís shittyness but itís hard not to associate consolidated as an enabler since it was going on while he was on the team. Scott Bourne also seemed to not have a problem with jj based on liberal use of faggot in the pray for me movie.

Absolutely not.  Casey is not a racist. 
I'm sorry, but don't reverse this on me.  I can't speak for Scott, but Birdo and I wanted nothing to do with the documentary for this exact reason.  We had dirt on him, but knew it was going to be a movie trying to glamorize him, and we knew if we were to say stuff, we would be vilified, so we refused.
This is exactly why I hadn't gotten on here before..I want to deal with the issue at hand, not the "tabloid" version....I want to stick straight to facts, not speculation...

He is a racist.  Fact.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 15, 2018, 07:11:20 PM
the only way cons would do anything is if this got bigger attention. as it is now its just a fly they can ignore.

The fly can turn into an elephant if people stop buying CONS all together, at least any JJ product. Some of the problem though would be the kids who just don't give a shit about anything yet. They care about following their favorite pros, getting the shoes they want and whats popular, not what the company they buy from believes in. They'll scream racism all over SLAP cause its trendy these days then head to the shop later today for the new CONS drop. I'm not blaming the kids, they're going to do what they do. Maybe we should look at some of the minorities that are backed by CONS and see what they feel? Or if they feel at all cause I'm sure those CONS checks are beautiful for some of those dudes.

I think we could probably key people like ESPN, Sports Illustrated, Vice, Rolling Stone, etc. onto this thread and just call Cons out and ask them to answer for this.

100%

Progress is slow to come but whatever it's worth in the past few minutes shes deleted that post & went private...

Hilarious, that literally happened as I was browsing her profile.

As for media attention, kind of surprised Vice hasn't started on this yet, for how much they try and be on the forefront of things and have skate content.

Where's our Vice guy lurking the SLAP threads!? O'dell, we need you bruh!

Oh my god Odell would be the worst person. He doesnít have the integrity to risk his standing amongst his idols to ask anything hard hitting. He would just make him look like a sad lovable clown like Andy Roy. One of my fiends contacted Odell after that episode asking why he didnít address any of the sketchy stuff in his past and his answer was literally ďmaybe I didĒ
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: alex on May 15, 2018, 07:12:46 PM
Think Atiba's comment is pretty telling, "judged you till I met you that was a big mistake... you are a great friend" but at the end of the day this is the same guy who said terrible shit, associates with known racists and had swastikas on his gear for a long time. Maybe the past is the past and he's a good guy when you know him and that's great, but these guys need to think about the amount of people who don't know him personally and see how shitty he comes across to the rest of us.

A 15 second super broad apology doesn't exactly do much to change what's been posted in this thread.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 15, 2018, 07:15:00 PM
Casey is on the highway murderers instagram just like Jessee. Why is it different for Casey? Itís a racist band why is he absolved. Is it because he hasnít wronged you guys yet?

None of this detracts from Jesseeís shittyness but itís hard not to associate consolidated as an enabler since it was going on while he was on the team. Scott Bourne also seemed to not have a problem with jj based on liberal use of faggot in the pray for me movie.

Absolutely not.  Casey is not a racist. 
I'm sorry, but don't reverse this on me.  I can't speak for Scott, but Birdo and I wanted nothing to do with the documentary for this exact reason.  We had dirt on him, but knew it was going to be a movie trying to glamorize him, and we knew if we were to say stuff, we would be vilified, so we refused.
This is exactly why I hadn't gotten on here before..I want to deal with the issue at hand, not the "tabloid" version....I want to stick straight to facts, not speculation...

He is a racist.  Fact.

Sorry Iím not trying to turn this around on you. Iím just worried this stupid apology is going to help remove any heat on his sponsors. You being a former one I had to ask. Consolidated definitely had a gritty image back then and I ate it up.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Big Skatefase on May 15, 2018, 07:16:28 PM
ďIím sorry you guys remembered some of the stuff I said, but that was a long time ago. And look, swastikas just look really cool, and my biker buddies will think Iím a wuss if I stop wearing them. Please donít get me kicked off my sponsors.Ē

The worst part is this seems to be working. So many shitty comments with hearts (including his sponsors) and people saying the PC police is after him. Since when was this considered PC?
calling out racism in any shape or form is being "too PC" nowadays usually by people who want to go back to a time period when you could be a racist piece of shit and receive no blacklash from it.

i mean i understand there are some "liberals" that take things too far, but skaters wanting to know whats up with a guy labeled a legendary skateboarder using nazi imagery and calling people niggers and faggots and getting praise in the skateboard industry is perfectly normal or at least should be normal.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Cuban_Lynx on May 15, 2018, 07:17:02 PM
ďIím sorry you guys remembered some of the stuff I said, but that was a long time ago. And look, swastikas just look really cool, and my biker buddies will think Iím a wuss if I stop wearing them. Please donít get me kicked off my sponsors.Ē

The worst part is this seems to be working. So many shitty comments with hearts (including his sponsors) and people saying the PC police is after him. Since when was this considered PC?
My favorite comment, but why is this liked by Schmitty?
(https://i.imgur.com/xTtquBX.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/kjfRmvk.jpg)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 15, 2018, 07:17:35 PM
He really is a great lovable friend who is really into images of hate.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Big Skatefase on May 15, 2018, 07:19:08 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi0ajzMBuoX/?hl=en&taken-by=markoblow
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 15, 2018, 07:22:07 PM
I guess technically anything you apologize for is in the past. Hey man he posted swastikas yesterday thatís the past he changed since then.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Sick Duck on May 15, 2018, 07:22:55 PM
I'm not gonna lie, I've met/been around jessee a few times over the years and he was always nice and respectful to everyone. But again some shit is just inexcusable and not cool at all. at least he's attempting to apologize but that's a hard thing to just forget about
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: ArtVandelay on May 15, 2018, 07:24:42 PM
Cool, it's okay to call people niggers and faggots and bastard jews and wear swastikas for 24 years as long as you write a little apology and talk into the camera like your mom is forcing you to say sorry. Cool man!
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: leticia on May 15, 2018, 07:27:30 PM
Casey is on the highway murderers instagram just like Jessee. Why is it different for Casey? Itís a racist band why is he absolved. Is it because he hasnít wronged you guys yet?

None of this detracts from Jesseeís shittyness but itís hard not to associate consolidated as an enabler since it was going on while he was on the team. Scott Bourne also seemed to not have a problem with jj based on liberal use of faggot in the pray for me movie.

Absolutely not.  Casey is not a racist. 
I'm sorry, but don't reverse this on me.  I can't speak for Scott, but Birdo and I wanted nothing to do with the documentary for this exact reason.  We had dirt on him, but knew it was going to be a movie trying to glamorize him, and we knew if we were to say stuff, we would be vilified, so we refused.
This is exactly why I hadn't gotten on here before..I want to deal with the issue at hand, not the "tabloid" version....I want to stick straight to facts, not speculation...

He is a racist.  Fact.

Sorry Iím not trying to turn this around on you. Iím just worried this stupid apology is going to help remove any heat on his sponsors. You being a former one I had to ask. Consolidated definitely had a gritty image back then and I ate it up.

I'm totally with you on that!  I cannot believe that people are eating up his apology so quickly...it is so fake, it's insane.  The ONLY reason he did that is for damage control and to make his sponsors happy.  I just hope the people he has directly targeted, stand up.

I can tell you that we had a black person come to Consolidated when he worked here, and Jason wouldn't even shake his hand.  But the black person didn't tell us that happened until after Jason quit, because he was scared to. 

I have texts from him taunting me and/or Birdo.  I just gotta figure out how to downsize them so I can post them.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Cuban_Lynx on May 15, 2018, 07:27:43 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi0ajzMBuoX/?hl=en&taken-by=markoblow
Weird pic to post for this caption since heís looking at the swastika on his fuel tank.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on May 15, 2018, 07:31:04 PM
Letís be real.
Iíll give him credit for doing it.
But that was a weak ass apology.
Doesnít even mention race or racism.
Quick PR sweep under the rug type shit. 
We all know the dude sucks now and some Instagram video that will be forgotten in one weeks time doesnít change the fact that heís repped this shit for his entire fucking career.
pretty much this!
#powerofSLAP tho
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: leticia on May 15, 2018, 07:31:41 PM
Cool, it's okay to call people niggers and faggots and bastard jews and wear swastikas for 24 years as long as you write a little apology and talk into the camera like your mom is forcing you to say sorry. Cool man!

Bulls eye.
And it went beyond his 24 years.  Fact.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Sick Duck on May 15, 2018, 07:34:27 PM
Cool, it's okay to call people niggers and faggots and bastard jews and wear swastikas for 24 years as long as you write a little apology and talk into the camera like your mom is forcing you to say sorry. Cool man!
That's the best thing about being catholic!
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: leticia on May 15, 2018, 07:35:27 PM
It took him a total of five minutes...at least he gave me enough time to screen grab it.   :)

Let me try this again...not very good at posting fotos on here. :-\
Care to clarify on the bullying texts part?
Happystance beat me to it. Inquiring minds want to know/see screen shots.

Sorry, I'm so clueless on here...I don't see my screen grab, do you?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: CRITICAL BEATDOWN on May 15, 2018, 07:39:17 PM
Well, Slap mods are cool with it...
(https://i.imgur.com/RQu0ISE.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: feedmeseymour on May 15, 2018, 07:45:28 PM
Everyone keeps saying stuff from 24 years ago, so does Jason have that thing going on like robin williams in that movie jack?
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e3/6f/a4/e36fa4f7fd4622085780c935cb96a30f.jpg)

(http://scootlaird.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/rw5.jpg)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on May 15, 2018, 07:47:01 PM
o'blow blocked me on ig after deleting my jjs are a racist comment twice
https://www.instagram.com/markoblow/
is his page down at the moment or does he just have me on block after yesterday?
I wish I screen shotted some of the replies. Look, if you back him that much Oblow you don't need to block me and/or delete comments.

either way: "that's passing on negativity, that's hate"
(https://i.imgur.com/5vXIwC7.gif)
tell me more about how your best buddy got called out for using symbols of love

also, user/ mod/ thread-deleter sh(m)itty on skate nazis 4eva? can we just revoke his mod status?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nickheaddickhead on May 15, 2018, 07:48:17 PM
I already boycotted converse because of what they did to the canadian program and then to us here in shops. Only ever bought them because jake johnson and pontus convinced me it was alright speaking of which why is pontus of ? I thought he and cons were intertwined.

Pontus said fuck Converse. Not 100% sure about the circumstances surrounding it, though.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Disco234 on May 15, 2018, 07:48:49 PM
Cool, it's okay to call people niggers and faggots and bastard jews and wear swastikas for 24 years as long as you write a little apology and talk into the camera like your mom is forcing you to say sorry. Cool man!
That's the best thing about being catholic!

Dude is a fucking mormon who gave a percentage of his earnings to the church. Dude is beyond kookery
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: ArtVandelay on May 15, 2018, 07:51:47 PM
I speak on behalf of moms and grandmas all over the world when I say - "Jason you're not sorry, just sorry you got caught."

Also can't stand the people in the comments saying "I'm black and Jason Jessee has always been kind and respectful. He gets my blessing." Like yeah it's okay you wear swastikas man cause you're nice to people in person. No fuck off - those symbols and your ideology perpetuate the some of the most vile hatred that has existed on earth. There was a fucking world war over this shit dude! Wearing swastikas because they're edgy is no excuse. Go wear them in Germany you pussy. Go wear them in Israel you pussy. See how edgy you are then. Fuck Jason and fuck Santa Cruz. Dude is just a dumb fucking hillbilly who happened to be gifted at riding a skateboard and got lucky.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Spaced Cadet on May 15, 2018, 07:52:08 PM
I looked in the mirror Mark... didn't see any swastikas. I did realize though as I reflected on my past actions that I too have done stuff and said things in the past that I regret. You know, because everyone on earth has. JJ's apology is void of any specifics and so is Mark's defense. They know they can't say what positions he held and still look like the good guys that are being attacked and accused.

Also, as others have pointed out, a lot of that shit wasn't even that long ago. Also if people thought the outrage wasn't warranted and that this is blown out of proportion then why was Schmitty deleting shit on here and others deleting proof elsewhere? They would rather hide the truth and sweep it under the rug than actually own up to it. The apology only came because of mounting pressure after a failed attempt to cover it up and hope it goes away. The apology would have still helped if it was actually specific and sincere but it wasn't. It was instead another attempt to hide shit.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 15, 2018, 07:56:19 PM
Everyone keeps saying stuff from 24 years ago, so does Jason have that thing going on like robin williams in that movie jack?
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e3/6f/a4/e36fa4f7fd4622085780c935cb96a30f.jpg)

(http://scootlaird.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/rw5.jpg)

I think they are trying to get away with the concrete proof of that interview and when he had the ďwhite power phaseĒ as if all this other proof from like just a few days ago happened then too.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Frank on May 15, 2018, 07:58:09 PM
lol that oblow post tho... wtf. all these industry heads sending hearts and shit, fucking pathetic. it's not like he told us he has terminal cancer or something or is kicking a gnarly drug habit. also the only thing that will change is that from now on there will be a certain quota of black people in pics with him he's broing off with and he will post the occasional alibi pro diversity comment but at the same time being still down with the whole biker-fasho aestethic thing.

srsly i hate the goddamn skate industry, bunch of dick riders.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on May 15, 2018, 07:59:40 PM
https://www.highsnobiety.com/2009/04/06/neighborhood-x-jason-jessee-idle-hands-collection/
2009 yo!
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Frank on May 15, 2018, 08:00:39 PM
Wearing swastikas because they're edgy is no excuse. Go wear them in Germany you pussy. Go wear them in Israel you pussy. See how edgy you are then. Fuck Jason and fuck Santa Cruz. Dude is just a dumb fucking hillbilly who happened to be gifted at riding a skateboard and got lucky.

whole post was good but this is important
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Sad Hippo on May 15, 2018, 08:02:49 PM
srsly i hate the goddamn skate industry, bunch of dick riders.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: oyolar on May 15, 2018, 08:03:27 PM
https://www.highsnobiety.com/2009/04/06/neighborhood-x-jason-jessee-idle-hands-collection/
2009 yo!

Holy fuck. I get that Neighborhood is a Japanese company but come on.  There's no way that's a coincidence.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: REGS on May 15, 2018, 08:13:57 PM
I already boycotted converse because of what they did to the canadian program and then to us here in shops. Only ever bought them because jake johnson and pontus convinced me it was alright speaking of which why is pontus of ? I thought he and cons were intertwined.

Pontus said fuck Converse. Not 100% sure about the circumstances surrounding it, though.

First I've heard of this. Noticed Pontus deleted everything from his instagram... weird
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: jpmulls on May 15, 2018, 08:20:34 PM
"I apologize to anyone that was hurt or offended by my actions..."
Why do people do these fake apologies?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: figureitout on May 15, 2018, 08:31:02 PM


Yall seriously need better things to do with your time, try skateboarding more.?

Sad.

oh fuck off dude - that's what everyone says in every slap argument ever. You're "wasting your time" just as much by posting your shit. You're probably the kind of person who throws their recycling in the trash and thinks "ah it doesn't matter, the world's already polluted." Well it matters to some people and not wanting to support racism matters to some people. Don't shame people for caring about this - you should go skateboard and don't look at this thread if you don't care.

Absolute brilliant rebuttal Sir, in no way could I have said it better myself...keep up the good work. Hang it up Jason, not in the literal sense Jason, no burning cross you compassionless bigot moron.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: smellsdead on May 15, 2018, 08:39:38 PM
my three year old apologizes more sincerely than that

but as stated- this is just damage control



and whoever brought up the woody woodpecker peckerwood white power tattoo shit- i forgot about that thank you


big ups to all yall
slaps got clout
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on May 15, 2018, 08:39:57 PM
  So I'm back and forth here. I'm starting to think its not for shock value and that its a thing for him.  The Leticia posts are damning but remember that was over 10years ago and she's said she doesn't know what he's doing now.  Its looking bad, he's not gonna denounce hate groups cause he's in there like swimwear I think.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Hastings on May 15, 2018, 08:42:07 PM
I kinda think sporting a swastika for a Halloween Costume almost makes it worse. It almost becomes a mockery at that point. That symbol was a symbol of fear for millions of people and represents some of the most hateful things that we as humans are capable of. To throw that on your skimpy costume for fun seems very disrespectful and humiliating for Jeiwsh people and minorties. Also the Nazi huntwrs in Inglorious Bastards did not sport swastikas. It was the other guys. The ones most people try not to associate themselves with...

(http://img.timeinc.net/time/photoessays/2011/royal_gaffes/harry_nazi.jpg)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 15, 2018, 08:44:20 PM
i just wish one of these industry fuckers who are so proud of him and grateful for his friendship would offer up any explanation about why its ok that he was posing with swastikas just a few days ago.

id also like to see one of them explain why it was wrong in the first place.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: GardenSkater77 on May 15, 2018, 08:46:56 PM
The Highway Murderers are listed on a hate watch web-site. Just the kind of guys to share your shine with...

https://itsgoingdown.org/stop-neo-nazi-band-highway-murderers-performing-san-jose/

Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: saucy ragu on May 15, 2018, 08:48:45 PM
I'm glad Jason spoke out, but I feel that he needs to apologize specifically and/or denounce with specificity any claims to white supremacy, homophobia, anti-Semitism, and other forms of hateful rhetoric he is/was connected to. Maybe give an explanation as to why he fell in with this idolatry, and realize that the biker culture he entrenched himself is in need of an image/attitude overhaul. I get the feeling he's a product of his environment, and there's plenty more people like him that could use this wake-up call.

Also, stop commenting on Scout's appearance like she's a sex object. This is a public forum that clearly still has skin in the game, and you lend it no credibility and hold no moral high ground when you say shit like that.

p.s. Please leave Robin Williams' memory out of this.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 15, 2018, 08:53:53 PM
i wonder why we havent heard a single anecdote from anyone that is friends with him where they told him "hey maybe its not a good idea to put a swastika on that statue given the stuff you did in your past"? all his supporters are acting either like they never knew or that this stuff all happened decades ago.

i hate this shit so much because i loved jessee so much, especially all the weirdo comedy shit. i hate more that i was well aware of this sketchy stuff and only thought it made him cooler.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on May 15, 2018, 08:53:58 PM
I looked in the mirror Mark... didn't see any swastikas. I did realize though as I reflected on my past actions that I too have done stuff and said things in the past that I regret. You know, because everyone on earth has. JJ's apology is void of any specifics and so is Mark's defense. They know they can't say what positions he held and still look like the good guys that are being attacked and accused.

Also, as others have pointed out, a lot of that shit wasn't even that long ago. Also if people thought the outrage wasn't warranted and that this is blown out of proportion then why was Schmitty deleting shit on here and others deleting proof elsewhere? They would rather hide the truth and sweep it under the rug than actually own up to it. The apology only came because of mounting pressure after a failed attempt to cover it up and hope it goes away. The apology would have still helped if it was actually specific and sincere but it wasn't. It was instead another attempt to hide shit.
have a gnar! (and PM this to oblow)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Bobby Peru on May 15, 2018, 08:58:45 PM
I'm glad Jason spoke out, but I feel that he needs to apologize specifically and/or denounce with specificity any claims to white supremacy, homophobia, anti-Semitism, and other forms of hateful rhetoric he is/was connected to. Maybe give an explanation as to why he fell in with this idolatry, and realize that the biker culture he entrenched himself is in need of an image/attitude overhaul. I get the feeling he's a product of his environment, and there's plenty more people like him that could use this wake-up call.

Also, stop commenting on Scout's appearance like she's a sex object. This is a public forum that clearly still has skin in the game, and you lend it no credibility and hold no moral high ground when you say shit like that.

p.s. Please leave Robin Williams' memory out of this.

Yes on all of this. I've already PMd a couple of you but there's no level of antagonization that justifies sexual harassment.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: iwshilvdnfinland on May 15, 2018, 09:00:40 PM

Also, stop commenting on Scout's appearance like she's a sex object. This is a public forum that clearly still has skin in the game, and you lend it no credibility and hold no moral high ground when you say shit like that.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Sidewalk Funk. on May 15, 2018, 09:01:59 PM
Reading the comments essentially stating "what's the big deal?" or "it's cool, it's just biker culture/fashion" made me think of this recent article:

http://www.newsweek.com/one-third-americans-dont-believe-6-million-jews-were-murdered-during-holocaust-883513
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Mr. Fink on May 15, 2018, 09:05:05 PM
Just to reiterate, JJ is Jake Johnson. Letís not throw this abbreviation around like itís nothing.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on May 15, 2018, 09:08:01 PM

Also, stop commenting on Scout's appearance like she's a sex object. This is a public forum that clearly still has skin in the game, and you lend it no credibility and hold no moral high ground when you say shit like that.
 
 I agree but where are you guys on all the other threads where everyone does that shit?  I guess you don't want to have us give the jesse supporters any ammo like that which is smart but also kinda calculated.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Chris Hansen is back on May 15, 2018, 09:10:29 PM
We need an industry dickrider awards. Oblow might take the crown from Atiba for that "hero" shit. Someone contact Rawb and we'll get him to judge.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Chapingro on May 15, 2018, 09:11:13 PM
Jason Jesse is a coward. If I had to guess, I'd bet that he's so deeply intertwined with the neonazi/fascist crowd that he's scared to specifically denounce it. Apologizing for hurting people's feelings is wack af. This dude is a snowflake and is either a.) not really a nazi ideologically, but too scared to make a real break with the punk ass nazis he associates with, or b.) actually agrees with that shit and is just doing a PR move.

In any case, there should be an ongoing full court press on this fool to get his sponsors to address the actual nazi shit he's into, and for him to actually specifically address this shit.

I agree with the people who are calling out industry dick riders, like one/some of the moderators on this board, apparently. Anyone scared to call out a nazi, and anyone who gets upset and starts crying about people calling out nazis, is a snowflake and needs to go hide in a "safe space". No safe spaces for nazis.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: saucy ragu on May 15, 2018, 09:13:26 PM

Also, stop commenting on Scout's appearance like she's a sex object. This is a public forum that clearly still has skin in the game, and you lend it no credibility and hold no moral high ground when you say shit like that.
 
 I agree but where are you guys on all the other threads where everyone does that shit?  I guess you don't want to have us give the jesse supporters any ammo like that which is smart but also kinda calculated.

We're not Mods and I rarely venture into threads I think are bullshit.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: IHOP on May 15, 2018, 09:16:44 PM
Jason Jesse is a coward. If I had to guess, I'd bet that he's so deeply intertwined with the neonazi/fascist crowd that he's scared to specifically denounce it. Apologizing for hurting people's feelings is wack af. This dude is a snowflake and is either a.) not really a nazi ideologically, but too scared to make a real break with the punk ass nazis he associates with, or b.) actually agrees with that shit and is just doing a PR move.

In any case, there should be an ongoing full court press on this fool to get his sponsors to address the actual nazi shit he's into, and for him to actually specifically address this shit.

I agree with the people who are calling out industry dick riders, like one/some of the moderators on this board, apparently. Anyone scared to call out a nazi, and anyone who gets upset and starts crying about people calling out nazis, is a snowflake and needs to go hide in a "safe space". No safe spaces for nazis.

This remidns me of when trump claimed Charlottesville had violence on both side, instead of denouncing actual kkk members because he knew they were his supporters.

3 mods this week being sketchy, can we start a slap poll and vote to get them of mod status?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on May 15, 2018, 09:17:38 PM

Also, stop commenting on Scout's appearance like she's a sex object. This is a public forum that clearly still has skin in the game, and you lend it no credibility and hold no moral high ground when you say shit like that.
 
 I agree but where are you guys on all the other threads where everyone does that shit?  I guess you don't want to have us give the jesse supporters any ammo like that which is smart but also kinda calculated.

We're not Mods and I rarely venture into threads I think are bullshit.
  How do you sniff which threads are which?  I didn't think you guys were mods I was just wondering where you were at.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on May 15, 2018, 09:30:06 PM
Ryan Lay (of all people) just commented on his IG story. Props to him for saying something outside of all the other industry parrots who are trying to play like Jesse is somehow the victim in all this.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Zurg on May 15, 2018, 09:48:19 PM
sincere or not, it cool this thread made its way to him. hopefully he realizes why its offensive/upsetting to people when he reps nazi stuff(especially as someone influential(to children(sorta))) and cuts it. even if he thinks were being overly sensitive and doesnt learn, i think this call out and possible pressure from sponsors will stop him from wearing/designing shit with swastikas again.

cool this thread had an affect.  FUCK all the other fake racist call out threads trying to take away from this one. i think certain people didnt realize what they were implying with those, but the ones who did showed themselves as pieces of shit

also, was him holding the letter but not reading it the snail mail equivalent of pops' outbox folder debacle?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: AllBranFlakes69 on May 15, 2018, 09:49:18 PM
Ryan Lay (of all people) just commented on his IG story. Props to him for saying something outside of all the other industry parrots who are trying to play like Jesse is somehow the victim in all this.

What did Ryan Lay say?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Big Skatefase on May 15, 2018, 09:51:19 PM
Ryan Lay (of all people) just commented on his IG story. Props to him for saying something outside of all the other industry parrots who are trying to play like Jesse is somehow the victim in all this.

What did Ryan Lay say?

(https://i.imgur.com/QfqpRBo.png)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: figureitout on May 15, 2018, 09:52:04 PM
1) Never ever in a million years trust anything that comes from a meth head (meth mouth) or the spawn of one.

2) He desperately needed to start with "Many of you know i am an absolute hyperactive, sporadic, meth head kook in every single video you have ever seen me in, but this one is different, this one is very serious..."
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: CrumblingInfrastructure on May 15, 2018, 09:54:09 PM
Jason Jesse is a coward. If I had to guess, I'd bet that he's so deeply intertwined with the neonazi/fascist crowd that he's scared to specifically denounce it. Apologizing for hurting people's feelings is wack af. This dude is a snowflake and is either a.) not really a nazi ideologically, but too scared to make a real break with the punk ass nazis he associates with, or b.) actually agrees with that shit and is just doing a PR move.

In any case, there should be an ongoing full court press on this fool to get his sponsors to address the actual nazi shit he's into, and for him to actually specifically address this shit.

I agree with the people who are calling out industry dick riders, like one/some of the moderators on this board, apparently. Anyone scared to call out a nazi, and anyone who gets upset and starts crying about people calling out nazis, is a snowflake and needs to go hide in a "safe space". No safe spaces for nazis.

This remidns me of when trump claimed Charlottesville had violence on both side, instead of denouncing actual kkk members because he knew they were his supporters.

3 mods this week being sketchy, can we start a slap poll and vote to get them of mod status?

Tate is already of mod so he won by default.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Buck Russell on May 15, 2018, 09:58:21 PM
yeah Jason Jessee is problematic for sure but probably not an enemy. the real enemy here is australians and vegans yall are racist as fucuuuuck. if you really care you'll self-immolate and stfu
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Colt Cannons Cargos on May 15, 2018, 09:58:47 PM
The piece of paper he wrote that letter on is actually just a page ripped out of his nearest copy of Mein Kampf
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: figureitout on May 15, 2018, 10:08:46 PM
Also Pops Hosoi, andy roy, and Neil Hendrix commenting look suspect as fuck, shit being anywhere near this! and @billy_crewl commented "triggered xoxo" thanks for your esteemed input on racism cruel hillbillies. 
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: the_unknown_soldier on May 15, 2018, 10:35:33 PM
His apology addressed nothing. He basically said ďIím sorry you feel that way. Iím a good guyĒ. If he truly has regret, own it and actually acknowledge what heís sorry for. Even if he straight up said ďI thought it was edgy and cool and I was an idiotĒ, I would at least give him props for providing content.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: DCLOVE on May 15, 2018, 10:39:22 PM
Welp with half the industry accepting it and calling him brave or being positive itís pretty evident that skating isnít the inclusive environment itís portrayed to be and will continue to enable this behavior for the sake of a dollar. Fuck the industry buy a revive board and Skate your moms Keds and put them all out of a job.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Chavo on May 15, 2018, 10:45:50 PM
I'm glad Jason spoke out, but I feel that he needs to apologize specifically and/or denounce with specificity any claims to white supremacy, homophobia, anti-Semitism, and other forms of hateful rhetoric he is/was connected to. Maybe give an explanation as to why he fell in with this idolatry, and realize that the biker culture he entrenched himself is in need of an image/attitude overhaul. I get the feeling he's a product of his environment, and there's plenty more people like him that could use this wake-up call.

Also, stop commenting on Scout's appearance like she's a sex object. This is a public forum that clearly still has skin in the game, and you lend it no credibility and hold no moral high ground when you say shit like that.

p.s. Please leave Robin Williams' memory out of this.

Yes on all of this. I've already PMd a couple of you but there's no level of antagonization that justifies sexual harassment.

This is not a public forum. Sexual comments are an example of protected speech in a public forum (while "sexual harassment" is legal term for discrimination in the workplace). Slap is a privately owned message board and can delete and edit posts as it pleases. This thread is a good example.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 15, 2018, 10:47:27 PM
I wish dill would comment on this
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: IHOP on May 15, 2018, 10:51:40 PM
I wish dill would comment on this

I dont know if he can handle discussing someone he gave a pro board to being a racist
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: leticia on May 15, 2018, 11:00:45 PM
Welp with half the industry accepting it and calling him brave or being positive itís pretty evident that skating isnít the inclusive environment itís portrayed to be and will continue to enable this behavior for the sake of a dollar. Fuck the industry buy a revive board and Skate your moms Keds and put them all out of a job.
While youíre spot on about the industry, where they have no control is in peopleís purchases.  Industry people arenít buying each otherís products, only consumers are.  So they can high five each other other all day every day if they want.  If you boycott all products with Jasonís name on there, theyíre gonna have to make a serious call, not just be okay with the band aid he gave them.  I also liked the idea to get mainstream media involved.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on May 15, 2018, 11:04:31 PM
Welp with half the industry accepting it and calling him brave or being positive itís pretty evident that skating isnít the inclusive environment itís portrayed to be and will continue to enable this behavior for the sake of a dollar. Fuck the industry buy a revive board and Skate your moms Keds and put them all out of a job.
While youíre spot on about the industry, where they have no control is in peopleís purchases.  Industry people arenít buying each otherís products, only consumers are.  So they can high five each other other all day every day if they want.  If you boycott all products with Jasonís name on there, theyíre gonna have to make a serious call, not just be okay with the band aid he gave them.  I also liked the idea to get mainstream media involved.
  Right on,   texts, let's go.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Bobby Peru on May 15, 2018, 11:37:44 PM

Also, stop commenting on Scout's appearance like she's a sex object. This is a public forum that clearly still has skin in the game, and you lend it no credibility and hold no moral high ground when you say shit like that.
 
 I agree but where are you guys on all the other threads where everyone does that shit?  I guess you don't want to have us give the jesse supporters any ammo like that which is smart but also kinda calculated.

A woman involved in the conversation was being harassed, which is different from, say, the "boobs" and "asses" threads, which, though blatantly objectifying, are photos of models, not demeaning someone in the conversation.

Sexual comments are an example of protected speech in a public forum (while "sexual harassment" is legal term for discrimination in the workplace).

........what?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: IHOP on May 15, 2018, 11:39:03 PM
This is starting to get retarded. Now yíall are going after moderators?

Two (now one) mods deleted threads because of personal ties to the accused, it isnt that unreasonable to want that situated.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: SodaJerk on May 15, 2018, 11:59:43 PM
I respect the Jason addressing the pressure that's been applied and didn't expect specifics to be cleared up at this stage. Maybe we'll get an interview about it at a later date.

The Highway Murderers chumps deserve a giant swerve from anyone who doesn't identify as a racist or neonazi.

Scout, actions speak louder than words so maybe drop the Nazi imagery rather than have to retroactively explain it away.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Atiba Applebum on May 16, 2018, 12:03:06 AM
I wish dill would comment on this

I dont know if he can handle discussing someone he gave a pro board to being a racist

Wasnít that AVE who had the young Jessee board?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: SkateChimney on May 16, 2018, 12:03:22 AM
yeah Jason Jessee is problematic for sure but probably not an enemy. the real enemy here is australians and vegans yall are racist as fucuuuuck. if you really care you'll self-immolate and stfu

truuu
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Silky Johnson on May 16, 2018, 12:35:13 AM
Ryan Lay is a real ass dude, nothing but respect for him, as for that half ass apology i guess cons or nhs must've been breathing down his neck or something.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: somethingmustbreaknow on May 16, 2018, 12:45:09 AM
I'm not gonna lie, I've met/been around jessee a few times over the years and he was always nice and respectful to everyone. But again some shit is just inexcusable and not cool at all. at least he's attempting to apologize but that's a hard thing to just forget about
i've read it a couple of times in this thread already and outside
of it. ".... when i met him, he was nice, not a racist, blablabla"
of course he has to be nice, he has to market himself, he has
like every pro, something to sell, his image, and the gear that
comes with it from his sponsors. his apology is whatever, way
too vague adressing absolutely nothing and saying that it was
'the past' is pretty unconvincing if repping these kinda symbols
accompanies his whole life, and the ones of his daugther, as it
seems. also, pretty funny how his daugther suggested to take
down this thread - it's like the strategy they are using, quickly
delete posts with SS-runes, swastikas, etc. and go into hiding.

also, i'm a little sad, that saucy regu changed his avatar of that
redhaired girl biting in a corndog(?). always a pleasure to see it.
r  e  p  o  r  t  e  d
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Paco Supreme on May 16, 2018, 03:34:27 AM
i'm a little sad, that saucy regu changed his avatar of that
redhaired girl biting in a corndog(?). always a pleasure to see it.

When did this happen ?

Charles Bradley is a good swap though
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: cosmicgypsies on May 16, 2018, 03:37:44 AM
(https://instagram.fbhx3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/vp/8da5acac3fb478a83cb96a1c65168e9c/5B9C7E62/t51.2885-15/e35/31696239_1981038015543340_1945292144075866112_n.jpg)

i just wanna know why the fuck hes writing like this
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Atiba Applebum on May 16, 2018, 03:51:36 AM
(https://instagram.fbhx3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/vp/8da5acac3fb478a83cb96a1c65168e9c/5B9C7E62/t51.2885-15/e35/31696239_1981038015543340_1945292144075866112_n.jpg)

i just wanna know why the fuck hes writing like this

Clearly he saw the shit Sheckler got for his/his momís writing
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Zumiez And Xanax on May 16, 2018, 04:05:43 AM
don't talk shit about sheckler mother fucker
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: saucy ragu on May 16, 2018, 04:09:01 AM
i'm a little sad, that saucy regu changed his avatar of that
redhaired girl biting in a corndog(?). always a pleasure to see it.

When did this happen ?

Charles Bradley is a good swap though

Last night, I'd been meaning to change it for a while and I figured if I was going to tell people to stop objectifying women, I should back up my own word. However, the photo was of Julie Kennedy, an alternative model who uses sensuality as a cornerstone in her career so I don't feel I was misrepresenting or drawing unwanted attention to her. But it's no longer the impression I want to be putting out there.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: somethingmustbreaknow on May 16, 2018, 04:16:30 AM
i'm a little sad, that saucy regu changed his avatar of that
redhaired girl biting in a corndog(?). always a pleasure to see it.
When did this happen ?
Charles Bradley is a good swap though
Last night, I'd been meaning to change it for a while and I figured if I was going to tell people to stop objectifying women, I should back up my own word. However, the photo was of Julie Kennedy, an alternative model who uses sensuality as a cornerstone in her career so I don't feel I was misrepresenting or drawing unwanted attention to her. But it's no longer the impression I want to be putting out there.
fair enough. no need to explain yourself, though.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Cuban_Lynx on May 16, 2018, 04:21:30 AM
I wish dill would comment on this

I dont know if he can handle discussing someone he gave a pro board to being a racist

Wasnít that AVE who had the young Jessee board?
(https://classicskateshop1.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/nx8eqfj0r9bqd3kyqgq0.jpg)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Prawn Cocktail on May 16, 2018, 04:23:42 AM
We should lynch the Nazi!!!!
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: SodaJerk on May 16, 2018, 04:24:55 AM
i'm a little sad, that saucy regu changed his avatar of that
redhaired girl biting in a corndog(?). always a pleasure to see it.

When did this happen ?

Charles Bradley is a good swap though

Last night, I'd been meaning to change it for a while and I figured if I was going to tell people to stop objectifying women, I should back up my own word. However, the photo was of Julie Kennedy, an alternative model who uses sensuality as a cornerstone in her career so I don't feel I was misrepresenting or drawing unwanted attention to her. But it's no longer the impression I want to be putting out there.
For the longest time I thought it was Emma Stone.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: feedmeseymour on May 16, 2018, 04:29:38 AM
Hey hi there, Scout Jessee here...
To get one thing straight. I am not a Nazi.
The russian hat was an inglorious bastards halloween costume as a ĎNazi Killerí who kills for Nazi scalps..
You all seen the quintin taritino film?
The Ss shirt.. Was for Etsy 2 yrs ago. I sell and post crazy ass vintage Which that shirt was from a friends dying 90 yr old grandpa. Originally , it was one of the first hells angels motorcycles shops down in San Diego in the 1980ís that burned to the ground. Itís a trip I even found a shirt from back then- no racist thing behind posting it
Iím sorry you guys are wasting your time trying to tear apart my father, and now my life...
I am not a racist , homophob, sexist, prejudice, or any other sort of label you try an put on me. If you look at all my other stuff youíll notice I love all walks of life and am a very down to earth type of girl.
Itís saddens me, people waste there time on these types of forums , that have nothing better to do - like getting laid , seeing music, actually socializing- but talk shit.
Goodluck to all of you ✌🏻
Sorry this is how you waste your time.
I will no longer be engaging after this post

I know you guys will tear it apart and make it out to be negative in some way or another.

Who ever published this Should delete

Perfect. My name is Shane Sheckler. I feel your pain. It's super frustrating, cause like all I wanna do is have fun, and have a chill girl. DM me on the gram. Lets grab some coffee.

(https://s31.postimg.cc/n4jb9faln/Screen_Shot_2018-05-15_at_3.03.29_PM.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Would gnar if I could
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Hands down Hass out on May 16, 2018, 04:41:00 AM
i'm a little sad, that saucy regu changed his avatar of that
redhaired girl biting in a corndog(?). always a pleasure to see it.

When did this happen ?

Charles Bradley is a good swap though

Last night, I'd been meaning to change it for a while and I figured if I was going to tell people to stop objectifying women, I should back up my own word. However, the photo was of Julie Kennedy, an alternative model who uses sensuality as a cornerstone in her career so I don't feel I was misrepresenting or drawing unwanted attention to her. But it's no longer the impression I want to be putting out there.
For the longest time I thought it was Emma Stone.

So it wasn't ES. huh. Leticia, if you ship me drunx (10m) I won't join the lynch mob. Gotta continue to fuck with Thunders, though. Tnt ain't molding em himself and I neeeeed my nollie bs flips.


JJ's response was as forgettable as the dekline video

Somebody pass me a beer. Slap users claiming pals are SJW's. co-opting reddit and 4chan Fucking weak.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Atiba Applebum on May 16, 2018, 05:09:54 AM
Ryan Lay is a real ass dude, nothing but respect for him, as for that half ass apology i guess cons or nhs must've been breathing down his neck or something.

I wonder if Silasís ďget a fucking jobĒ story was a response as well, a very lame response
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 16, 2018, 05:48:32 AM
ďIím sorry you guys remembered some of the stuff I said, but that was a long time ago. And look, swastikas just look really cool, and my biker buddies will think Iím a wuss if I stop wearing them. Please donít get me kicked off my sponsors.Ē

The worst part is this seems to be working. So many shitty comments with hearts (including his sponsors) and people saying the PC police is after him. Since when was this considered PC?
My favorite comment, but why is this liked by Schmitty?
(https://i.imgur.com/xTtquBX.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/kjfRmvk.jpg)

GOLLY
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: BacksideWallride on May 16, 2018, 06:04:04 AM
(https://instagram.fbhx3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/vp/8da5acac3fb478a83cb96a1c65168e9c/5B9C7E62/t51.2885-15/e35/31696239_1981038015543340_1945292144075866112_n.jpg)

i just wanna know why the fuck hes writing like this

Because its his pathetic attempt at Cholo style writing. Kinda another "not racist" avenue, cuz you know, Mexicans are minority
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Alan on May 16, 2018, 06:12:47 AM
We already knew that the industry is full of kooks, but this whole incident makes them look like any other elite group. They don't really give a shit about anything except when it starts affecting their money or status, and then it's just shitty PR tactics and deflection.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Stoop Kid 2.0 on May 16, 2018, 06:21:03 AM
Tiger Woods apology was more sincere than that bullshit pictured above. So he finally evolved after how many decades of promoting ignorant shit? And that chicks whole ďIím not racist im just making money off of it and dressing up as it for funĒ makes total sense if youíre fucking idiot.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Donkey Lips on May 16, 2018, 06:55:11 AM
Oblow is a fucking wiener. It's pretty sad to see him spin it like people are bullying Jason. You can be a racist prick for over three decades, but the moment people group up and call you a racist prick, you're suddenly the victim.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: RIDEFLANNELV2 on May 16, 2018, 07:06:41 AM
Yup. I guess it's pretty easy to play victim while you bask in the ocean views from your gated house.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on May 16, 2018, 07:15:29 AM
as much as I dislike the PC-ness of the times, I have to say I'm really disappointed in Jessee. Especially as a former fan of his fs ollies and antics. He was kind of a vert Gonz to me.
How this could go on for so long is beyond me.

this type of shit has happened in other areas than skating though........

(http://ww2live.com/sites/default/files/Lemmy%20Hetzer.jpg)

(http://ww2live.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/images/20160301175546.jpg?itok=1xOvI-E0)

(for the record I don't think Lemmy was a Nazi but collecting that memorabilia and playing dress-up is still pretty fucked in my opinion)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: feedmeseymour on May 16, 2018, 07:19:01 AM
(http://i65.tinypic.com/wtetfd.jpg)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: DISTANT RUMOURS on May 16, 2018, 07:21:48 AM
as much as I dislike the PC-ness of the times, I have to say I'm really disappointed in Jessee. Especially as a former fan of his fs ollies and antics. He was kind of a vert Gonz to me.
How this could go on for so long is beyond me.

this type of shit has happened in other areas than skating though........

(http://ww2live.com/sites/default/files/Lemmy%20Hetzer.jpg)

(http://ww2live.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/images/20160301175546.jpg?itok=1xOvI-E0)

(for the record I don't think Lemmy was a Nazi but collecting that memorabilia and playing dress-up is still pretty fucked in my opinion)

Even in the documentary Lemme says he despises Nazi's and dated black women.
But he was interested in the history and thinks the costumes look cool.

My family fought Nazi's in Europe and my great-uncle (rip Albert) who actually was in a concentration camp even had Nazi stuff at his house...


Oblow is a fucking wiener. It's pretty sad to see him spin it like people are bullying Jason. You can be a racist prick for over three decades, but the moment people group up and call you a racist prick, you're suddenly the victim.

Indeed, man-up and take responsibility.

Jessee came with a silly statement but at least he came up with 'something'... and hopefully knows he's wrong. Although it kind of looked like when the principle made you shake hands after a fight with the kid you hate.

Even though it doesn't mean much, it shows that SLAP is definitely being read by the 'industry':
'oh yeah, did you read that on SLAP huh huh huh huh?' etc. is all funny until they call your ass out.

On the other hand:
I can't get any sleep over the fact that Daryl 'Tremor' Angel is still getting paid to skate...
I don't curse much, but seriously FUCK that dude.

I'm truly disappointed in skateboarding these days. An activity that brings people together and always claimed to be open minded and non-tolerant against racism, sexism etc...
For real?

 if you dig deeper you hear black skaters that are being called niggers, 17-year old girl skaters that are being sexualized, women getting beat up, gay skaters that are afraid to come out... skateboarding is full of scumbags. That's a blessing and a curse about skating: anyone can join in, and you can't filter out the scum. But in the pro-ranks that should be different, no matter how good a guy's switch flip is...

But the moment that someone gets called out the industry dudes are on their back legs jumping in full defense mode.

Zero tolerance for that kind of bullshit.

End of rant.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: bucketoftruth on May 16, 2018, 07:23:15 AM
Oblows reply reeeeeks of that Scientology 'haters are thetans, be positive because you are better than they are.'
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Robert Baratheon on May 16, 2018, 07:29:54 AM
Oblows reply reeeeeks of that Scientology 'haters are thetans, be positive because you are better than they are.'

ALL CRITICISM IS JEALOUSY. PLEASE WORSHIP HIS "I GOT CAUGHT APOLOGY MESSAGE" WITH MANY EMOJIS. FOR CHRISTSAKKKES, THIS MAN DID THE FRONTSIDE OLLIES AND NON SEQUITURS FOR YOU, THE PEOPLE. 
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Silky Johnson on May 16, 2018, 07:31:26 AM
ďIím sorry you guys remembered some of the stuff I said, but that was a long time ago. And look, swastikas just look really cool, and my biker buddies will think Iím a wuss if I stop wearing them. Please donít get me kicked off my sponsors.Ē

The worst part is this seems to be working. So many shitty comments with hearts (including his sponsors) and people saying the PC police is after him. Since when was this considered PC?
My favorite comment, but why is this liked by Schmitty?
(https://i.imgur.com/xTtquBX.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/kjfRmvk.jpg)

GOLLY
Wow that little rat face is really Jason's bitch
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: S. on May 16, 2018, 07:41:15 AM
Is Jason Jessee really big in Japan?
Nike kicked off Peter Hewitt for having been a teenager and smoking weed. Nike/Cons must be making good money with Jason Jessee.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on May 16, 2018, 07:43:14 AM
Even in the documentary Lemme says he despises Nazi's and dated black women.
But he was interested in the history and thinks the costumes look cool.

My family fought Nazi's in Europe and my great-uncle (rip Albert) who actually was in a concentration camp even had Nazi stuff at his house...



yeah I saw the doc...and it made me uncomfortable. Actually dressing up in the uniform goes way too far for my own taste.
Anyways that doesn't keep me from enjoying Motorhead. Troubled artist yadda yadda.
But Jessee went further I think and now I'm really embarassed by the board I have hanging in my office... of course younger dudes don't understand why but Jessee was an icon for skaters of my generation.

By the way I've had the same type of conversation numerous times about Celine (French author who wrote antisemitic books before WWII). The difference is Jessee is still around....and apparently still putting swastikas on "signature gear"??!
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Francis Xavier on May 16, 2018, 07:53:19 AM
Is Jason Jessee really big in Japan?
Yes,they basically paid his bills before his comeback into the spotlight, buying up anything he had for sale(metal sculptures,driven/hi bond modified/automodown gear)and his place in the chopper world had them dressing up like him.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: DISTANT RUMOURS on May 16, 2018, 08:06:10 AM
Even in the documentary Lemme says he despises Nazi's and dated black women.
But he was interested in the history and thinks the costumes look cool.

My family fought Nazi's in Europe and my great-uncle (rip Albert) who actually was in a concentration camp even had Nazi stuff at his house...



yeah I saw the doc...and it made me uncomfortable. Actually dressing up in the uniform goes way too far for my own taste.
Anyways that doesn't keep me from enjoying Motorhead. Troubled artist yadda yadda.
But Jessee went further I think and now I'm really embarassed by the board I have hanging in my office... of course younger dudes don't understand why but Jessee was an icon for skaters of my generation.

By the way I've had the same type of conversation numerous times about Celine (French author who wrote antisemitic books before WWII). The difference is Jessee is still around....and apparently still putting swastikas on "signature gear"??!

I had that as well, and as Europeans that Nazi stuff is extra sensitive since it was heavy on the whole of Europe...
So I really understand how you feel.

But when he was explaining that he was deeply into the history etc. I could somehow understand his interest. It's still very akward for him to wear those costumes, but i'm pretty sure Lemmy did not have any bad intentions with it... and that he didn't give a damn about what anyone would think either. He explained himself later on...

And you're right about Jessee. Even the thing about him being big in Japan suddenly makes more sense now.
Japan isn't the  exactly known for being the most tolerable towards other religions, skincolor, cultures etc...
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Robert Baratheon on May 16, 2018, 08:26:57 AM
(http://i65.tinypic.com/2gxlab9.jpg)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: AreYouHarvinFun? on May 16, 2018, 08:40:10 AM
Jason Jesse is likely probably not a racist or anti-Semite. Rather just a white dude who never gave a shit about what these symbols/images really meant to most and doesn't care to learn or empathize. The bubble he's lived in his entire life has fostered this mindset (and imagery). Now in 2018 with his notoriety growing outside of his CA bubble the drudging up of his true reality was bound to happen and he's now forced to put out these types of PR statements.

Sad shit is, these companies knew before they cut him the checks. Also, people have been shunned from the industry for far less. I know it means very little but I can not support the companies that back him simply because of the "ignorance" stance they're likely to take with this whole thing.

Would go a long way if he took some time and those SC/CONS checks to fly to Germany/Poland, visit Auschwitz-Birkenau, Dachau, Bergen-Belsen, and educate himself on exactly what he's repped his entire life. I'd be willing to be bet he would come home different.

Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 16, 2018, 08:56:48 AM
Jason Jesse is likely probably not a racist or anti-Semite. Rather just a white dude who never gave a shit about what these symbols/images really meant to most and doesn't care to learn or empathize. The bubble he's lived in his entire life has fostered this mindset (and imagery). Now in 2018 with his notoriety growing outside of his CA bubble the drudging up of his true reality was bound to happen and he's now forced to put out these types of PR statements.

Sad shit is, these companies knew before they cut him the checks. Also, people have been shunned from the industry for far less. I know it means very little but I can not support the companies that back him simply because of the "ignorance" stance they're likely to take with this whole thing.

Would go a long way if he took some time and those SC/CONS checks to fly to Germany/Poland, visit Auschwitz-Birkenau, Dachau, Bergen-Belsen, and educate himself on exactly what he's repped his entire life. I'd be willing to be he would come home different.

this cant be said enough. the sponsors need to say something. jessee's apology doesnt extend to them. kicking him off the team isnt the answer either.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: McCly on May 16, 2018, 08:58:46 AM
#MeinToo

Oblow posted a response about it and a shit ton of people are berating people against racism as being “negative”.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: oyolar on May 16, 2018, 09:02:02 AM
Jason Jesse is likely probably not a racist or anti-Semite. Rather just a white dude who never gave a shit about what these symbols/images really meant to most and doesn't care to learn or empathize. The bubble he's lived in his entire life has fostered this mindset (and imagery). Now in 2018 with his notoriety growing outside of his CA bubble the drudging up of his true reality was bound to happen and he's now forced to put out these types of PR statements.

Sad shit is, these companies knew before they cut him the checks. Also, people have been shunned from the industry for far less. I know it means very little but I can not support the companies that back him simply because of the "ignorance" stance they're likely to take with this whole thing.

Would go a long way if he took some time and those SC/CONS checks to fly to Germany/Poland, visit Auschwitz-Birkenau, Dachau, Bergen-Belsen, and educate himself on exactly what he's repped his entire life. I'd be willing to be he would come home different.

this cant be said enough. the sponsors need to say something. jessee's apology doesnt extend to them. kicking him off the team isnt the answer either.

Apologies, donations, activism, actual fucking steps are definitely called for - with kicking him off being one of them in my opinion.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Cctv on May 16, 2018, 09:05:09 AM
It seems like Scout was more invested in this looking bad, considering how fast she responded. Shortly after he made his little begrudging apology. Failing to denounce the symbols of hate he proudly adorns as well as sells. It would lead me to believe she was the one to influence his decision to address the subject.  The fact that he and independent currently have merchandise for sale with 2 hammers on it is enough to know he hasn't fucking evolved or learned. Fuck all these companies giving hate symbols a pass. The fact that his associates are playing the victim card is so fucking crazy. Fuck all these Nazi sympathizers.

tldr: these poosy's playing the victim card / Scout probably asked daddy to fix it before she looked bad on instagram
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 16, 2018, 09:16:03 AM
jason jessee apologized and that was the right thing for him to do.

dude has alot of white power buddies, the comments on his instagram post look halfway like a klan rally.


SLAP, which is basically a collection of the international skateboard community (weíve got all types from all over up in here), outed an openly white supremacist skateboarder to the point where his sponsors panicked and posted racially tokenized photos, and then the man himself had to at least ďaddressĒ it on social media.

SLAP is fucking cool and a positive representation of what skateboarding should be.

i agree completely
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Style Police on May 16, 2018, 09:17:31 AM
Oblow is a fucking wiener. It's pretty sad to see him spin it like people are bullying Jason. You can be a racist prick for over three decades, but the moment people group up and call you a racist prick, you're suddenly the victim.

Agreed. I wonder if he even read the interview. I don't care if it's from the mid 90s and he's your boy. Sit back and let it play out.

I'm not a fan of the PC-ness of times, but I think this Jessee situation was warranted to be brought up. The depth of hate in that interview was pretty shocking. Hats off to the Slap heads and I'll give props to Jason Jessee for the apology even though I'm not sure it was sincere.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: shannamal on May 16, 2018, 09:20:43 AM
Pretty crazy he "evolved" 2 days after being called out, despite demonstrating his beliefs for 30 fucking years.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: midevilco on May 16, 2018, 09:22:14 AM
Personally, I'd rather people wear their labels on their sleeve, makes it easier to pick them out.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: sms_b on May 16, 2018, 09:24:11 AM
#MeinToo



Holy shit.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: conqueso on May 16, 2018, 09:35:11 AM
They literally do wear it on their sleeves...around us normals it's obviously kept on the hush though.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on May 16, 2018, 09:35:22 AM
Oblow is a fucking wiener. It's pretty sad to see him spin it like people are bullying Jason. You can be a racist prick for over three decades, but the moment people group up and call you a racist prick, you're suddenly the victim.
Forgive me, but who is Marko Blow and why is he a factor in this convo, other than he's just another person indifferent to Nazis? Being that I have 2 grandfathers who made a good business out of fucking up weinersnitzel licking pussies, I'm not interested in googling/looking at his work, anyone with TLDR type details?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF5NW94K51A
AND I WANT MUH SKALPZ!
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on May 16, 2018, 09:36:00 AM
This apology misses the point entirely.
I'm a jew, something I've never hidden on here. The Jewish identity is a unique one in that racists openly and loudly hate you for who you are, but you generally look just like any other white person. A unique aspect of this identity is that people who loudly or quietly hate you, might not even realize its you they hate. Because of that and the fact that jews can often be the victims of violent hate crimes, sometimes when I am in a new situation or with certain people I feel like I need to be careful about whether or not they know that I am jewish. This is a rarity, but something which happens.
The reality of that situation is that you can't just go up to some people and say "I'm a jew! Whaddaya think?!" You have to make decisions. Am I safe here? Would I continue to be safe here if this person knew who I was? Even if a person claims they are cool, sometimes its still hard to know. That leaves me in a position from time to time where I have to either conceal who I am, or get out of that situation just to make sure I stay safe.
 Jason Jessee and his highway murderer friends strike me as red flag people. Get the fuck away from and stay the fuck away from kind of people. Is it possible I have it wrong? Maybe. Perhaps his Nazi imagery is all just a look, perhaps the stories of aggressive racism are dated and he not longer thinks that way. I don't have the privilege of making those assumptions. The thing is, as a jew, I'm privileged amongst those who Nazis hate in some ways. A black guy doesn't have the same luxury as I do in hiding my identity, so the only choice when a place is filled with Jason Jessees is to get the hell out of there. But none of us say "hey lets have a chat and see what they are REALLY like." That's not our job. Our job is our safety and security, not making sure an old nazi asshole keeps his paycheck or doesn't have his feelings hurt. And the reality is, that's not a surprise to Jason. He can't be stupid enough to think wearing a sign that projects "I violently hate people of color" won't make people think exactly what I said. His image was one that screamed that I should be excluded from the skate scene. Guess what buddy? I feel the exact same about you regardless of what you say.
But guys like Schmitty, Oblow, and all of Jason's sponsors don't care. They don't mind that his whole image is one built to intimidate religious minorities, lgbt people, and people of color, because he is their "bro" and if the people Jason's image is built to intimidate don't like him, apparently its on us to sacrifice our safety to give him a chance.
So Schmitty, you piece of shit who is DEFINITELY reading this, do you go up to every sketchy junky in an alley and get to know them? Or do you just avoid them? Prick.

So its not an issue of an apology or not. I just don't trust him, don't like him, wouldn't want to be around him, and find the fact that so many people are chill with it troubling. I want to be part of a community that rejects that ideology and welcomes jews, people of color, lgbt people, and everybody else, not one that embraces that shit, and by definition says jews, people of color, lgbt people, and anybody else nazis attacked are NOT welcome.
And yeah Converse, that's exactly what you are saying as a corporation.

Nothing Jason Jessee does can make me like him, trust him, or feel safe around his bros.
HE built that reputation, not me.
If you look at my first comment on the thread, you'll see that I made it clear everybody knows, but for some reason nobody cares. I didn't just suddenly think "Hey! that guy who does everything he can to look like he hates and wants to kill me and has presented himself like that for years might be no good." I've ALWAYS fucking hated him.
I'm not aggrieved and looking for an apology. I simply don't like him. My life will continue to be fine, and I will continue to not support him or his sponsors, because he comes off as a nazi douche.
He's not edgy, he just sucks.
I'm not offended, I just don't like him.
I'm not looking for anything from him, I just don't like him.
Basically, fuck him, he's cut, and that's that.
He's not a legend
He's not a rad personality
He's a fucking kook. Period.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: se7en3two on May 16, 2018, 09:38:44 AM
Pretty crazy he "evolved" 2 days after being called out, despite demonstrating his beliefs for 30 fucking years.

This.

How exactly has this mf'er recovered from racist nonsense all over his social feed in under 48hours?

I've seen plenty of pics with black, latino skaters on this feed after all this and I'm smh with hugs/support. These dudes are just going to give him a pass on this?

This has to be about as easy as I've ever seen anyone in recent days get off... Some half-assed apology as though he's a changed man and we're good? Damn.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Matthew_James on May 16, 2018, 09:41:47 AM
This apology misses the point entirely.
I'm a jew, something I've never hidden on here. The Jewish identity is a unique one in that racists openly and loudly hate you for who you are, but you generally look just like any other white person. A unique aspect of this identity is that people who loudly or quietly hate you, might not even realize its you they hate. Because of that and the fact that jews can often be the victims of violent hate crimes, sometimes when I am in a new situation or with certain people I feel like I need to be careful about whether or not they know that I am jewish. This is a rarity, but something which happens.
The reality of that situation is that you can't just go up to some people and say "I'm a jew! Whaddaya think?!" You have to make decisions. Am I safe here? Would I continue to be safe here if this person knew who I was? Even if a person claims they are cool, sometimes its still hard to know. That leaves me in a position from time to time where I have to either conceal who I am, or get out of that situation just to make sure I stay safe.
 Jason Jessee and his highway murderer friends strike me as red flag people. Get the fuck away from and stay the fuck away from kind of people. Is it possible I have it wrong? Maybe. Perhaps his Nazi imagery is all just a look, perhaps the stories of aggressive racism are dated and he not longer thinks that way. I don't have the privilege of making those assumptions. The thing is, as a jew, I'm privileged amongst those who Nazis hate in some ways. A black guy doesn't have the same luxury as I do in hiding my identity, so the only choice when a place is filled with Jason Jessees is to get the hell out of there. But none of us say "hey lets have a chat and see what they are REALLY like." That's not our job. Our job is our safety and security, not making sure an old nazi asshole keeps his paycheck or doesn't have his feelings hurt. And the reality is, that's not a surprise to Jason. He can't be stupid enough to think wearing a sign that projects "I violently hate people of color" won't make people think exactly what I said. His image was one that screamed that I should be excluded from the skate scene. Guess what buddy? I feel the exact same about you regardless of what you say.
But guys like Schmitty, Oblow, and all of Jason's sponsors don't care. They don't mind that his whole image is one built to intimidate religious minorities, lgbt people, and people of color, because he is their "bro" and if the people Jason's image is built to intimidate don't like him, apparently its on us to sacrifice our safety to give him a chance.
So Schmitty, you piece of shit who is DEFINITELY reading this, do you go up to every sketchy junky in an alley and get to know them? Or do you just avoid them? Prick.

So its not an issue of an apology or not. I just don't trust him, don't like him, wouldn't want to be around him, and find the fact that so many people are chill with it troubling. I want to be part of a community that rejects that ideology and welcomes jews, people of color, lgbt people, and everybody else, not one that embraces that shit, and by definition says jews, people of color, lgbt people, and anybody else nazis attacked are NOT welcome.
And yeah Converse, that's exactly what you are saying as a corporation.

Nothing Jason Jessee does can make me like him, trust him, or feel safe around his bros.
HE built that reputation, not me.
If you look at my first comment on the thread, you'll see that I made it clear everybody knows, but for some reason nobody cares. I didn't just suddenly think "Hey! that guy who does everything he can to look like he hates and wants to kill me and has presented himself like that for years might be no good." I've ALWAYS fucking hated him.
I'm not aggrieved and looking for an apology. I simply don't like him. My life will continue to be fine, and I will continue to not support him or his sponsors, because he comes off as a nazi douche.
He's not edgy, he just sucks.
I'm not offended, I just don't like him.
I'm not looking for anything from him, I just don't like him.
Basically, fuck him, he's cut, and that's that.
He's not a legend
He's not a rad personality
He's a fucking kook. Period.

Do you consider yourself to be white? I know it doesn't have much to do with anything, but I've seen ethnic Jews go both ways on how they classify themselves...
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on May 16, 2018, 09:46:42 AM
Like I said, its a strange identity. Its kinda like I'm "sometimes white." Like, I don't get followed around in stores or pulled over more by cops because of who I am, but at the same time, any white supremacist/aryan/motorcycle enthusiast who like to wear swastikas and drop n-bombs probably would claim I'm not, and I do feel unsafe/uncomfortable when I'm around those types out of fear I might be "outed." I guess my racial identity would be "pass for white?" Its interesting too, because there are black and latino jews too (shout out to Drake, Amare Stoudemire, and The Kid Mero's kids), and that gets even more complicated.
Basically, I don't have a simple answer to that question.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: AreYouHarvinFun? on May 16, 2018, 09:48:55 AM
wouldn't want to be around him, and find the fact that so many people are chill with it troubling. I want to be part of a community that rejects that ideology and welcomes jews, people of color, lgbt people, and everybody else, not one that embraces that shit, and by definition says jews, people of color, lgbt people, and anybody else nazis attacked are NOT welcome.
And yeah Converse, that's exactly what you are saying as a corporation.

He's not a legend
He's not a rad personality


Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Robert Baratheon on May 16, 2018, 09:49:57 AM
I sincerely hope he means it.

However, it is completely fair to doubt this. When you aren't proactively trying to right a wrong you've done you are
 
1. Fearing the consequences are too great by opening up old wounds.
2. Hoping nobody notices or remembers.
3. Not actually sorry.

Worse case scenario is that his lackluster apology is bullshit and he's just trying to save his Nike paycheck. Lots of white power/fuck PC culture types in his comments. There is probably a good reason they are attracted to a guy like him. Also, these industry types that are quick to profess their loyalty to him should pump the brakes. Just because he was nice to you once or twice doesn't mean he's not still a bigot.

Best case scenario is that he regrets his past and is too dumb to get that its 2018 and nazi and white power imagery don't get a pass because you ride a motorcycle. Let's not forget that a good number of our favorite pros are ignorant high school dropouts.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 16, 2018, 09:53:27 AM
jason jessee is not the only skate nazi

is jake phelps going to write a letter of apology

is schmitty going to post a handwritten apology on instagram

or are they all going to dance to each other's dog whistles a bit longer

there is quite a list of these dudes and they back each other

this was indy's official response:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BixdX4Gh21b/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BixdX4Gh21b/)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Robert Baratheon on May 16, 2018, 09:53:40 AM
Nothing Jason Jessee does can make me like him, trust him, or feel safe around his bros.
HE built that reputation, not me.
If you look at my first comment on the thread, you'll see that I made it clear everybody knows, but for some reason nobody cares. I didn't just suddenly think "Hey! that guy who does everything he can to look like he hates and wants to kill me and has presented himself like that for years might be no good." I've ALWAYS fucking hated him.
I'm not aggrieved and looking for an apology. I simply don't like him. My life will continue to be fine, and I will continue to not support him or his sponsors, because he comes off as a nazi douche.
He's not edgy, he just sucks.
I'm not offended, I just don't like him.
I'm not looking for anything from him, I just don't like him.
Basically, fuck him, he's cut, and that's that.
He's not a legend
He's not a rad personality
He's a fucking kook. Period.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: drunkenshredder on May 16, 2018, 09:55:56 AM
how is everyone saying this is fake? how is it you are saying he's changed in 48hrs. This guy is a product of his environment. It fucking sucks that he went down this whack rode but he survived and changed years ago. Anyone that has met him and talked with him would see that. Too many of you have your tiki torches lit and ready to burn it down. What did JJ do to you??? At the end of the day people fuck up all the times. say stupid fucking shit and might be real pieces of shit. But at what point are they allowed back? Is it right to hide behind a keyboard and bash someone you really don't know? i think that's just as bad as saying the shit he said. At least he took time to apologize wether you believe it or not doesn't matter. We are all faceless keyboard trolls. If you have a real issue with JJ hit him up about it but hopping on instagram and saying useless shit doesn't help any of this. Stop being apart of the problem and start being apart of the solution. JJ is trying...what are you doing???
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on May 16, 2018, 09:59:11 AM
JJ is trying...what are you doing???
Somebody kook this dude for me
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: tortfeasor on May 16, 2018, 10:02:54 AM
What did JJ do to you??? .

 If you have a real issue with JJ hit him up about it

A) he repeatedly identified himself as part of a group that openly wants to destroy the foundations of my country, rip up the constitution i swore my allegiance to on a bible,  and murder my family and I simply because our ancestors decided to follow the laws of Moses.   i think at the least I'm allowed to be suspect of him and not give him any hero worship.

B) whats his phone number?  i'll call him right now.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: drunkenshredder on May 16, 2018, 10:03:36 AM
JJ is trying...what are you doing???
Somebody kook this dude for me


Couldn't do it your self? It's easy to hop in and join a mob. you're still not helping anything. Really what are you doing to help?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: saucy ragu on May 16, 2018, 10:03:48 AM
how is everyone saying this is fake? how is it you are saying he's changed in 48hrs. This guy is a product of his environment. It fucking sucks that he went down this whack rode but he survived and changed years ago. Anyone that has met him and talked with him would see that. Too many of you have your tiki torches lit and ready to burn it down. What did JJ do to you??? At the end of the day people fuck up all the times. say stupid fucking shit and might be real pieces of shit. But at what point are they allowed back? Is it right to hide behind a keyboard and bash someone you really don't know? i think that's just as bad as saying the shit he said. At least he took time to apologize wether you believe it or not doesn't matter. We are all faceless keyboard trolls. If you have a real issue with JJ hit him up about it but hopping on instagram and saying useless shit doesn't help any of this. Stop being apart of the problem and start being apart of the solution. JJ is trying...what are you doing???


People have hit him up and he blocks them.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Not Local on May 16, 2018, 10:04:02 AM
I'm not saying people cannot evolve and grow and learn from mistakes but I just reread his latest Thrasher interview and he says 'No regrets'.... until the heat is on apparently...
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: whaaaaat on May 16, 2018, 10:04:48 AM
mark oblow's arts and crafts suck
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: happenstance on May 16, 2018, 10:07:04 AM
Forgive me, but who is Marko Blow and why is he a factor in this convo, other than he's just another person indifferent to Nazis?
Mark Oblow has been an industry head for about as long as I have been skateboarding. He was one of the main guys behind Color, Prime, Analog, Gravis, and I am sure a million other companies I am leaving out. He definitely played a big part in helping Dylan come up. I never really had anything bad to say about him until this. Such a disappointment.

Gip - I was raised Catholic, am not religious, but strangely enough the one time I experienced real hatred was because I was mistaken as a Jewish person. It was at some party in a rural part of Orange County in the early 2000s. The party was filled with people that dressed like biker types. A few guys walked up to me and said something along the lines of "who invited this long-nosed k***" and they threw up seig heils. It felt so sickening and I made a prompt exit. I feel like a lot of people treat anti-semitism as some period-piece racism, as if it does not exist anymore, but it most certainly does. I totally understand why you are cautious and it makes sense.

The comment thread under Jason's apology, and Oblow's post is infuriating. People are treating Jason as the victim when he has been victimizing people his entire life. I think the culture he supports is really evident when his daughter says "there is no racism behind" a shirt with an SS on it. She seems to be oblivious as to how hurtful that is to millions of people around the world.

I definitely think his sponsors need to take a stand. This should not be over just because he wrote an apology where he crossed out "24 hears ago". That was very calculated on his part and him trying to signal that this is all about the interview and not the continued use of swastikas in his art, motorcycles, clothes as well as usage of the "picaninny" stereotype in his art.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: AreYouHarvinFun? on May 16, 2018, 10:10:01 AM
how is everyone saying this is fake? how is it you are saying he's changed in 48hrs. This guy is a product of his environment. It fucking sucks that he went down this whack rode but he survived and changed years ago. Anyone that has met him and talked with him would see that. Too many of you have your tiki torches lit and ready to burn it down. What did JJ do to you??? At the end of the day people fuck up all the times. say stupid fucking shit and might be real pieces of shit. But at what point are they allowed back? Is it right to hide behind a keyboard and bash someone you really don't know? i think that's just as bad as saying the shit he said. At least he took time to apologize wether you believe it or not doesn't matter. We are all faceless keyboard trolls. If you have a real issue with JJ hit him up about it but hopping on instagram and saying useless shit doesn't help any of this. Stop being apart of the problem and start being apart of the solution. JJ is trying...what are you doing???

Ensuring this thread stay at the top of SLAP boards to send the message to his sponsors that the mass majority our diverse community of skaters don't back what this dude is was about. Hoping that a larger conversation about equality can be had. Hoping to educate folks that the only way we work through this is to keep it on the forefront of everyone's minds to discuss and face our hard truths. Hoping to educate folks that by letting his apology stand as the end all be all, "nothing more to see here" is not fair to the minorities (or everyone) who've backed these brands for the same number of decades JJ was sporting his racist/anti-semite gear.

I dont hate JJ at all. I want JJ & his sponsors to really face the truths behind these images & positions they've kept for far too long. It's time to educate and empathize in skateboarding.

Uber disrupted the Taxi industry
AirBnB disrupted the Hotel Industry

Most disruptions in history are later viewed as progress...

JJ is hopefully disrupting the Skate Industry.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Big Skatefase on May 16, 2018, 10:10:52 AM
i hated the new instagram comment algorithm system that only put verified users or users with a lot of followers comments at the top, but for this situation it's interesting to see what popular people in the skateboard industry are giving thier best wishes to jason jessee in the comments of that apology.

people leaving heart emojis like he announced he has cancer or something lol.

but yeah that comments section is interesting. apparently a lot of nazi biker / suspect white supremacist must be really big fans of him.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on May 16, 2018, 10:11:44 AM
Anyone that has met him and talked with him would see that.
I've already explained why that's a bullshit argument. Shut up. And what am I doing to help? I'm just trying to live my life, kook. His racism is his flaw, not mine. And like I said, I. JUST. DON'T. LIKE. HIM.

Oh, and I consider all of the people who wouldn't be a target of Jason Jessee-types and sticking up for us to be rad, Oblow claims its negativity, I claim its the opposite
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Allen. on May 16, 2018, 10:12:10 AM
Forgive me, but who is Marko Blow and why is he a factor in this convo, other than he's just another person indifferent to Nazis?
Mark Oblow has been an industry head for about as long as I have been skateboarding. He was one of the main guys behind Color, Prime, Analog, Gravis, and I am sure a million other companies I am leaving out. He definitely played a big part in helping Dylan come up. I never really had anything bad to say about him until this. Such a disappointment.

Honestly, the only thing he didnít fail at. Sick, he was behind Prime? The only 90ís world company that fucking sucked and no one gave a fuck about.

Besides like Shaolin and A-Team.

His art sucks too.

Someoneís calling me a kook on Oblows post.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Silky Johnson on May 16, 2018, 10:12:39 AM
this was indy's official response:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BixdX4Gh21b/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BixdX4Gh21b/)
MC Hammer collab coming soon
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: drunkenshredder on May 16, 2018, 10:17:06 AM
Anyone that has met him and talked with him would see that.
I've already explained why that's a bullshit argument. Shut up. And what am I doing to help? I'm just trying to live my life, kook. His racism is his flaw, not mine. And like I said, I. JUST. DON'T. LIKE. HIM.

Oh, and I consider all of the people who wouldn't be a target of Jason Jessee-types and sticking up for us to be rad, Oblow claims its negativity, I claim its the opposite

easy tough guy that's fine to not like him but you sure love talking about him. So go on and live that life of yours where you've never kooked it...just remember to never fuck up who knows what message board you will wind up on....errr
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: AreYouHarvinFun? on May 16, 2018, 10:20:16 AM
Rather just a white dude who never gave a shit about what these symbols/images really meant to most and doesn't care to learn or empathize.

This is likely also Drunken Shredder
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: GinosGroceries on May 16, 2018, 10:20:41 AM
Is it right to hide behind a keyboard and bash someone you really don't know? i think that's just as bad as saying the shit he said. At least he took time to apologize wether you believe it or not doesn't matter. We are all faceless keyboard trolls. If you have a real issue with JJ hit him up about it but hopping on instagram and saying useless shit doesn't help any of this. Stop being apart of the problem and start being apart of the solution. JJ is trying...what are you doing???

"Hiding behind a keyboard" while criticizing Jason's racist ideaology and use of racist symbols is not bad. Sure we don't personally know him, but he portrayed himself that way.


People have reached out to Jason but he blocks them.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: h00man on May 16, 2018, 10:20:49 AM
Seeing all the comments in Jason's post is everything wrong with America.

"Oh a damn a "Legendary" skateboarder has been proven to be a racist Nazi kook....but he apologized....he's a legend. Love you Jason".

Get the fuck off his dick you industry fucks. I lost respect for Oblow after this. No need to glorify the man for making a fucking apology.

If Hitler apologized for his actions, everyone would be on his dick? God damn fuck off. I don't buy Jason's apology. Sure, he may regret his actions, but his apology was so god damn half assed. It wasn't real. He still stands by his Nazi interests whether he thinks its cool and edgy, or he's an actual racist.

The industry, your favorite skaters and your friends are showing their true colors.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 16, 2018, 10:30:42 AM
how is everyone saying this is fake? how is it you are saying he's changed in 48hrs. This guy is a product of his environment. It fucking sucks that he went down this whack rode but he survived and changed years ago. Anyone that has met him and talked with him would see that. Too many of you have your tiki torches lit and ready to burn it down. What did JJ do to you??? At the end of the day people fuck up all the times. say stupid fucking shit and might be real pieces of shit. But at what point are they allowed back? Is it right to hide behind a keyboard and bash someone you really don't know? i think that's just as bad as saying the shit he said. At least he took time to apologize wether you believe it or not doesn't matter. We are all faceless keyboard trolls. If you have a real issue with JJ hit him up about it but hopping on instagram and saying useless shit doesn't help any of this. Stop being apart of the problem and start being apart of the solution. JJ is trying...what are you doing???

you are acting like jessee wasnt posing with swastikas and memorabilia of a racist band (which he hasnt said anything about yet btw) just a few days ago. stop pretending like this stuff all happened years ago. it was just a few days ago!
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: ChuckRamone on May 16, 2018, 10:35:09 AM
ďIíve evolved. Quite possibly more than you. Iím sorry you donít like that Iím a Nazi. Cons, please donít fire me. kthnx bye.Ē
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: pistachio on May 16, 2018, 10:35:19 AM
Jason Jesse sucks and I was never a fan (racism aside, get real, guy, your double hat thing is just plain stupid and serves no purpose other than to show people how quirky you can contrive yourself to be), even before finding out that he's some racist lollipop boy. That said, can we just throw an account on Instagram that posts nothing but his bullshit evidence for this? His apology was nothing short of complete ass, and in an age where racism is almost heralded, I don't back that sort of shit and am completely okay wasting my time to do everything that I can to prevent dildos like this from being in the limelight. Maybe just make an entire account that puts morons like this dude and Daryl on blast, ya know, the shit that's too touchy for people like Weck to talk shit on. Just my two cents and I probably still owe a quarter or two.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: I.C. Weiner on May 16, 2018, 10:38:57 AM
Daryl commenting heart emojis on this apology was pretty rich
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on May 16, 2018, 10:39:42 AM
DrunkenShredder?
More like Sunken Dreader.
I can't kook you because i focus everytime i'm about to become a pal.
Furthermore,
I'm willing to infer that your ignorance carries over into this situation: you don't even know any of the specifics about jason, i'm sure you will have to google peanut brown, because if you did know all that and were dismissive of it, you're probably one of Jason's good buddies. Micro-phallus syndrome must suck
(also shout out to the real freedom fighters who kooked you 3+ times)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Robert Baratheon on May 16, 2018, 10:39:49 AM
how is everyone saying this is fake? how is it you are saying he's changed in 48hrs. This guy is a product of his environment. It fucking sucks that he went down this whack rode but he survived and changed years ago. Anyone that has met him and talked with him would see that. Too many of you have your tiki torches lit and ready to burn it down. What did JJ do to you??? At the end of the day people fuck up all the times. say stupid fucking shit and might be real pieces of shit. But at what point are they allowed back? Is it right to hide behind a keyboard and bash someone you really don't know? i think that's just as bad as saying the shit he said. At least he took time to apologize wether you believe it or not doesn't matter. We are all faceless keyboard trolls. If you have a real issue with JJ hit him up about it but hopping on instagram and saying useless shit doesn't help any of this. Stop being apart of the problem and start being apart of the solution. JJ is trying...what are you doing???

you are acting like jessee wasnt posing with swastikas and memorabilia of a racist band (which he hasnt said anything about yet btw) just a few days ago. stop pretending like this stuff all happened years ago. it was just a few days ago!

https://itsgoingdown.org/stop-neo-nazi-band-highway-murderers-performing-san-jose/

This article talks about the racist leanings of the members of Jason's favorite band.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 16, 2018, 10:44:31 AM
santa cruz official response


https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi0Ye9rgrJG/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi0Ye9rgrJG/)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on May 16, 2018, 10:46:32 AM
how is everyone saying this is fake? how is it you are saying he's changed in 48hrs. This guy is a product of his environment. It fucking sucks that he went down this whack rode but he survived and changed years ago. Anyone that has met him and talked with him would see that. Too many of you have your tiki torches lit and ready to burn it down. What did JJ do to you??? At the end of the day people fuck up all the times. say stupid fucking shit and might be real pieces of shit. But at what point are they allowed back? Is it right to hide behind a keyboard and bash someone you really don't know? i think that's just as bad as saying the shit he said. At least he took time to apologize wether you believe it or not doesn't matter. We are all faceless keyboard trolls. If you have a real issue with JJ hit him up about it but hopping on instagram and saying useless shit doesn't help any of this. Stop being apart of the problem and start being apart of the solution. JJ is trying...what are you doing???

you are acting like jessee wasnt posing with swastikas and memorabilia of a racist band (which he hasnt said anything about yet btw) just a few days ago. stop pretending like this stuff all happened years ago. it was just a few days ago!

https://itsgoingdown.org/stop-neo-nazi-band-highway-murderers-performing-san-jose/

This article talks about the racist leanings of the members of Jason's favorite band.

(https://image.ibb.co/dusjVd/hmd.jpg)
JJ be like "let the past be the past guys, also, come check out my friends who are working really hard to get a show together, they're good guys just like me :)"
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Alan on May 16, 2018, 10:47:09 AM
That article is a year old. These guys have grown so much in the past year and are super not racist anymore, so just lay off, will ya?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: IHOP on May 16, 2018, 10:48:26 AM
santa cruz official response


https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi0Ye9rgrJG/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi0Ye9rgrJG/)


Wow, that is a huge bummer of a post.  I didnt care much for the boycott his sponsors thing, but fuck santa cruz after that.  Fucking cowards.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on May 16, 2018, 10:48:57 AM
That article is a year old. These guys have grown so much in the past year and are super not racist anymore, so just lay off, will ya?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q4txN1ut20
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 16, 2018, 10:49:31 AM
at least no one has called him brave yet

someone should call into the 9 club experience and ask them about this.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: planman on May 16, 2018, 10:56:13 AM
santa cruz official response


https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi0Ye9rgrJG/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi0Ye9rgrJG/)


Wow, that is a huge bummer of a post.  I didnt care much for the boycott his sponsors thing, but fuck santa cruz after that.  Fucking cowards.
Absolutely fucking whack
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: oyolar on May 16, 2018, 10:59:23 AM
Anyone that has met him and talked with him would see that.
I've already explained why that's a bullshit argument. Shut up. And what am I doing to help? I'm just trying to live my life, kook. His racism is his flaw, not mine. And like I said, I. JUST. DON'T. LIKE. HIM.

Oh, and I consider all of the people who wouldn't be a target of Jason Jessee-types and sticking up for us to be rad, Oblow claims its negativity, I claim its the opposite

easy tough guy that's fine to not like him but you sure love talking about him. So go on and live that life of yours where you've never kooked it...just remember to never fuck up who knows what message board you will wind up on....errr

Talking about it so it doesn't get swept under the rug and ignored is pretty important. It's definitely an extension of living your life when your life includes caring about standing against bigotry.

And you're acting like this was a mildly vulgar joke he made and not a systematic and decades long pattern of wearing racist symbols and saying racist/bigoted things - truly believed or not (although I do think it was believed).
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: the_unknown_soldier on May 16, 2018, 10:59:59 AM
at least no one has called him brave yet

someone should call into the 9 club experience and ask them about this.

Here, let me save everybody the time and effort by transcribing how it would go.


"Woooooah, crazy."
"Jason Jesse is the man."
"You know, people change."
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on May 16, 2018, 11:02:13 AM
santa cruz official response


https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi0Ye9rgrJG/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi0Ye9rgrJG/)


Wow, that is a huge bummer of a post.  I didnt care much for the boycott his sponsors thing, but fuck santa cruz after that.  Fucking cowards.
Absolutely fucking whack
The worst thing about it is that nobody can boycott them, because nobody has given a fuck about them for years.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: calvinsdream on May 16, 2018, 11:02:39 AM
Anyone that has met him and talked with him would see that.
I've already explained why that's a bullshit argument. Shut up. And what am I doing to help? I'm just trying to live my life, kook. His racism is his flaw, not mine. And like I said, I. JUST. DON'T. LIKE. HIM.

Oh, and I consider all of the people who wouldn't be a target of Jason Jessee-types and sticking up for us to be rad, Oblow claims its negativity, I claim its the opposite

easy tough guy that's fine to not like him but you sure love talking about him. So go on and live that life of yours where you've never kooked it...just remember to never fuck up identify with white power for two decades who knows what message board you will wind up on....errr
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: tortfeasor on May 16, 2018, 11:03:56 AM
santa cruz official response


https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi0Ye9rgrJG/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi0Ye9rgrJG/)


Wow, that is a huge bummer of a post.  I didnt care much for the boycott his sponsors thing, but fuck santa cruz after that.  Fucking cowards.
Absolutely fucking whack



wow i guess the title of this thread is 100 percent accurate. holy fuck.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: McCly on May 16, 2018, 11:06:02 AM
Santa Cruz can’t even fucking *say* what they are actually “standing with”.


Fucking cowards indeed.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 16, 2018, 11:06:47 AM
santa cruz official response


https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi0Ye9rgrJG/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi0Ye9rgrJG/)


Wow, that is a huge bummer of a post.  I didnt care much for the boycott his sponsors thing, but fuck santa cruz after that.  Fucking cowards.
Absolutely fucking whack



wow i guess the title of this thread is 100 percent accurate. holy fuck.


just as i suspected
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: ShoeProblem on May 16, 2018, 11:07:45 AM
The H in NHS stands for Hitler?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: cosmicgypsies on May 16, 2018, 11:07:59 AM
was gonna say santa cruz of relevancy but i dont think theyve ever been on it
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: I.C. Weiner on May 16, 2018, 11:08:19 AM
santa cruz official response


https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi0Ye9rgrJG/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi0Ye9rgrJG/)

i thought it was a jab at slap

Wow, that is a huge bummer of a post.  I didnt care much for the boycott his sponsors thing, but fuck santa cruz after that.  Fucking cowards.
Absolutely fucking whack



wow i guess the title of this thread is 100 percent accurate. holy fuck.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 16, 2018, 11:08:51 AM
santa cruz going all michael jordan with the "racists buy skateboards too" approach.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: via on May 16, 2018, 11:09:01 AM
This is maybe a dumb question but who even owns/runs Santa Cruz? Who is it thatís ďstanding behindĒ him exactly?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: the_unknown_soldier on May 16, 2018, 11:10:15 AM
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/e9/1c/04/e91c044b656fa3bb0dfdb4f9bb4fb3e3--office-jokes-electric.jpg)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Style Police on May 16, 2018, 11:11:37 AM
Virtue signaling by his colleagues/friends/fans on his insta comments is at a all time high.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 16, 2018, 11:12:53 AM
these dummies are making it so much worse for themselves because whenever they post these support posts the comments fill up with the worst people just kind of proving the point.

you would think if a company saw a bunch of racists supporting their posts they would take a second look at their message.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 16, 2018, 11:14:01 AM
This is maybe a dumb question but who even owns/runs Santa Cruz? Who is it thatís ďstanding behindĒ him exactly?

https://herschelsupply.co/journal-08-lasting-effect-independent-truck-co/

Quote
The four founders were Richard Novak and Jay Shuirman, who owned NHS, and Fausto Vitello and Eric Swenson ó mechanics who owned a small metal shop and foundry called Ermico Enterprises. The four originally met at a Los Angeles downhill skateboard race in 1977. Novak and Shuirman were there with their Santa Cruz skateboards and Road Rider wheels while Vitello and Swenson showed up with their Stroker truck ó an elaborate automobile-style suspension design. Novak and Shuirman had also been working on a suspension truck for downhill racing at their Santa Cruz locale based on a different design. Realizing their common interests, the four spent the following months meeting up to work and party together. NHS had the money, distribution, and marketing but had no way to properly engineer the trucks, and Ermico had the ability and the drive to make the truck. They burst on the scene at a Newark, California, Hester Pro-Bowl Series contest on May 23rd, 1978, with a truck that would change skateboarding forever.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.skate-board/8QcW_fRZPtE

Quote
ok.. I've been sitting on this article for a while.. it is an old article.
I've wanted to post it just so a lot of people who may not know about
it might learn something. This article is about Ermico Enterprises
which is the main company that Fausto owns. Ermico produces and/or
has financial connections to Thrasher, Slap, Independent trucks,
Venture trucks, Thunder trucks, Real skateboards, Think skateboards,
Adrenaline skateboards, Stereo skateboards, Spitfire wheels, and a
shitload of other companies that I could name for a few more lines..
I guess the point behind this is that you may want to think a bit
before you purchase products from these people. I don't know the
current labor status with Ermico but I've been trying to reach Local
164 every now and then.

for the record, I don't think that Fausto is an ultimate evil, I think
some things that I've heard and seen evidence of are kinda shady, the
advertising practices are just the beginning.

oh, and I ride Spitfire wheels and Thunder trucks, go figure.
...murray...


the following article was in the San Francisco Chronicle March 18th,
1987. It was reprinted in whole.

*Unusual Strike By Immigrants at S.F. Factory*

        A walkout by Salvadoran immigrants at a San Francisco
skateboard-parts factory provides a glimpse of organizing efforts in
the Bay Area's growing population of young Latino workers.

        The 20 nonunion employees of Ermico Enterprises Inc. are on strike
for higher pay, better working conditions and union recognition.

        Newly arrived, timid immigrants tend to remain silent about working
conditions that would provoke longtime residents. But two weeks ago,
20 of the 40 laborers at Ermico decided to walk off their jobs because
they felt that management was thwarting their attempt to form a
union. The other 20 are still working.

        The strike came at a time when the workers, most of them
Salvadoran men in their 20s, were scheduled to vote in a secret
ballot election on whether to join Molders and Allied Workers Union
Local 164, which represents most Bay Area foundry employees.

        Nelson Moran, 20, sat on the stump of a telephone pole as a trash
can fire warmed him and three other young strikers outside the gates
of the Hunters Point industrial park that contains the Ermico plant.

        A police van was parked nearby. Nine strikers were arrested last
week for blocking access to the factory.

        Checking of his list of grievances, Moran said there is no
ventilation
in a 20-by-40-foot area of the plant where workers grind aluminum
castings for skateboard wheels assemblies.

        The only bathroom has no hot water, he said. Workers whose hands
are hot from handling molten metal sometimes get painful cramps
when washing with cold water, he said.

        Workers sometimes get nauseated from breathing fumes from
lubricants used to cool drills and grinding machines, one young
unidentified laborer said. "You start feeling bad, sleepy, things like
that," he said.

        David Bacon, and organizer for the molders' union, called the
conditions in the plant "primitive."

        Newly hired workers earn $4.25 an hour at Ermico, according to
strikers. But workers in union foundries in the Bay Area start at $8
to $10 an hour.

        "The salary is too low," said Moran, who emigrated four years ago
from his native Salvadoran farming town to the United States. "They
don't pay vacations, holidays. We don't have good insurance."

        Management referred all questions to an attorney, James Meath of
Richmond, Va. Meath said that he is unaware of conditions in the plant
and cannot respond to any of the grievances.

        "Our position is that we're going to run our business," he said.

        Moran, who lives with his mother and brothers in San Bruno, laughed
when asked whether he feared that the U.S. Immigration and
Naturalization Service would come to check the striker's documents.

        "I don't care if the people don't have papers," another striker said.
"No more exploitation." The metal-casting industry depends on
immigrants and eventually will listen to their demands, this worker
believes.

        Ignacio de la Fuente, business manager for the molders' union,
predicted that the strike will influence other immigrants who enter
the Bay Area economy through low-paying factory and service jobs.

        Economists have said job actions among unskilled Latino immigrants
may become more common under the new immigration law. Illegal
aliens who have lived in the United States continuously since Jan. 1,
1982 may be eligible to become temporary residents under the new
law.

        Meanwhile, the union organizing effort is tied up at the National
Labor Relations Board.

        The molders' union is charging that management refused to attend a
meeting a month ago, when the NLRB was to set a date for the
secret-ballot election. The union also claims that four laborers active
in organizing were fired two days after the meeting.

        Management has responded with charges of intimidation by the union.
The company says the four workers were let go because of a business
slowdown.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: IHOP on May 16, 2018, 11:14:59 AM
what the fuck, coward cant denounce white power and racists because they are all his friends, and neither can santa cruz.  Saying they "stand behind him" just looks like you stand behind his fuckin swazi's and ss gear, which they do.

the comment sections in these should be telling enough, the type of people supporting him (besides the industry social climbers) are the worst people.

Edit: saw nopes post after, same shit
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Nigga on May 16, 2018, 11:15:26 AM
jason jesse is 5'4 and autistic
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Griselda Blanco on May 16, 2018, 11:19:23 AM
They may as well change the caption to ďWe love and stand behind Jason Jessee and his love for nazi/racist imagery, use of racial slurs, homophobia, etc!Ē


santa cruz official response


https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi0Ye9rgrJG/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi0Ye9rgrJG/)


Wow, that is a huge bummer of a post.  I didnt care much for the boycott his sponsors thing, but fuck santa cruz after that.  Fucking cowards.
Absolutely fucking whack
The worst thing about it is that nobody can boycott them, because nobody has given a fuck about them for years.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 16, 2018, 11:19:52 AM
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32349597_10156451504582853_8745902008617140224_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeEZbOZ8fBjXwsjE29FCPPxYcIsjfu2L_VICXvhhKNiSBb5zWWJ53eYM4iJcTciLyESo1gqCB3bKIgfmLWBDC4_ZV7tcP-unhjM6UwhJZ4E-Bw&oh=a74321544141740c4915313060642262&oe=5B9719A5)
screengrab from other thread
for the sake of completeness.

anyone have the grabs of the rest of this post? i know like a couples a days ago IS the past but people should see for themselves how recent it was before they keep mentioning how he has changed since then.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: shannamal on May 16, 2018, 11:21:43 AM
santa cruz official response


https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi0Ye9rgrJG/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi0Ye9rgrJG/)


Wow, that is a huge bummer of a post.  I didnt care much for the boycott his sponsors thing, but fuck santa cruz after that.  Fucking cowards.
Absolutely fucking whack
The worst thing about it is that nobody can boycott them, because nobody has given a fuck about them for years.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: heliocentric bananas on May 16, 2018, 11:23:40 AM
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32349597_10156451504582853_8745902008617140224_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeEZbOZ8fBjXwsjE29FCPPxYcIsjfu2L_VICXvhhKNiSBb5zWWJ53eYM4iJcTciLyESo1gqCB3bKIgfmLWBDC4_ZV7tcP-unhjM6UwhJZ4E-Bw&oh=a74321544141740c4915313060642262&oe=5B9719A5)
screengrab from other thread
for the sake of completeness.

anyone have the grabs of the rest of this post? i know like a couples a days ago IS the past but people should see for themselves how recent it was before they keep mentioning how he has changed since then.

They delete it?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 16, 2018, 11:25:08 AM
yes @skateboardmuseum deleted that post a day later
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Crazy Ralph on May 16, 2018, 11:25:38 AM
santa cruz official response


https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi0Ye9rgrJG/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi0Ye9rgrJG/)


Wow, that is a huge bummer of a post.  I didnt care much for the boycott his sponsors thing, but fuck santa cruz after that.  Fucking cowards.
Absolutely fucking whack
The worst thing about it is that nobody can boycott them, because nobody has given a fuck about them for years.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Silky Johnson on May 16, 2018, 11:28:16 AM
Wow so brave (https://s7.postimg.cc/4n2k26eez/1526494790235.png)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Big Skatefase on May 16, 2018, 11:35:30 AM
if you boycott buying a product from a company that nobody buys, does it make a sound?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: DISTANT RUMOURS on May 16, 2018, 11:37:09 AM
The H in NHS stands for Hitler?

NHS =  NEUES HITLER SCHULE
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: GAY on May 16, 2018, 11:40:02 AM
Is this whole kerfluffle making SC relevant again? Because God knows I haven't thought of them for years.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: AreYouHarvinFun? on May 16, 2018, 11:40:17 AM
The H in NHS stands for Hitler?

NHS =  NEUES HITLER SCHULE


Translation: New Hitler School
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: AreYouHarvinFun? on May 16, 2018, 11:42:11 AM
santa cruz going all michael jordan with the "racists buy skateboards too" approach.

I believe that's exactly what they're doing here. Full MJ.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 16, 2018, 11:59:56 AM
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32680618_10156466813417853_5256943556878139392_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=5fb4bb34172f6008e4cd1fec5def2c0a&oe=5B93ED66)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: IHOP on May 16, 2018, 12:05:23 PM
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32680618_10156466813417853_5256943556878139392_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=5fb4bb34172f6008e4cd1fec5def2c0a&oe=5B93ED66)
If the nut daily wants to really be the onion of skateboarding, they should get a bit more controversial and talk about some current events.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: DISTANT RUMOURS on May 16, 2018, 12:07:29 PM
(https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32747580_838725336335474_2350275549697409024_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=AeEHA8QDOi9iu2ZtwBj4qOv2KCn4Xj04Jt0kdK-IZ-tqS0fxrUWNX71L2QCZjFJ4rVf2K3J_WT-EjCTaoM-o-1ajmxML3rUzkZk949w35IkYnA&oh=832a14ae7e954ffd15f21b952579c6b2&oe=5B7C695C)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: McCly on May 16, 2018, 12:15:33 PM
santa cruz going all michael jordan with the "racists buy skateboards too" approach.

I believe that's exactly what they're doing here. Full MJ.

Can someone elaborate on this?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on May 16, 2018, 12:18:51 PM
Anyone that has met him and talked with him would see that.
I've already explained why that's a bullshit argument. Shut up. And what am I doing to help? I'm just trying to live my life, kook. His racism is his flaw, not mine. And like I said, I. JUST. DON'T. LIKE. HIM.

Oh, and I consider all of the people who wouldn't be a target of Jason Jessee-types and sticking up for us to be rad, Oblow claims its negativity, I claim its the opposite

easy tough guy that's fine to not like him but you sure love talking about him. So go on and live that life of yours where you've never kooked it...just remember to never fuck up who knows what message board you will wind up on....errr
Plenty of people think I'm an asshole. I accept that. I don't demand that they sit down and have a discussion with me because they'd like me if they knew me. When somebody doesn't like me, I might reflect on why they don't like me, consider my actions, and then move on with the understanding that some people just won't like me either way. I especially wouldn't complain if shit I did to be shocking ended up shocking people. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Fuck a nazi.
And guess what, guy who thinks I'm an asshole: there's room for people like me, or people like him in skateboarding. He started the "I won't just let you live your life in peace" shit,  he only has a problem now because the tables have turned on him. He's a fucking kook, and fuck Santa Cruz, SCHMITTY, and Oblow are on the same boat as him. They prefer white supremacy as a cultural value in skateboarding over diversity.
Let's repeat that:
Santa Cruz skateboards values white supremacy over diversity in skateboarding
SCHMITTY values white supremacy over diversity in skateboarding
Mark Oblow (you know, the guy who started the only World brands made up of mostly white people) values white supremacy over diversity in skateboarding.

Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 16, 2018, 12:24:01 PM
santa cruz going all michael jordan with the "racists buy skateboards too" approach.

I believe that's exactly what they're doing here. Full MJ.

Can someone elaborate on this?

years ago jordan was asked to weigh in on a political race in north carolina where it was a close call between dems and repubs. jordan was rumored to respond with "republicans buy sneakers too"
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: CRITICAL BEATDOWN on May 16, 2018, 12:24:46 PM
Yea you're not going to buy a santa Cruz deck, but you can boycott indy, thrasher, etc. Nobody wants to boycott indu though, regardless of how badly the enabled all of this. Says a lot.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: DISTANT RUMOURS on May 16, 2018, 12:26:24 PM
santa cruz going all michael jordan with the "racists buy skateboards too" approach.

I believe that's exactly what they're doing here. Full MJ.

Can someone elaborate on this?

Sure, Michael Jordan always had issues with 'race' in the past and has also spoken about this in his book saying something in the lines of 'being against all white people'... because he had issues with tons of white people in the past...

Rumor has it he said something like 'Republicans buy sneakers too' about his own shoes... etc.

More info here:
https://deadspin.com/did-michael-jordan-ever-say-republicans-buy-sneakers-1784530317

Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 16, 2018, 12:27:37 PM
Yea you're not going to buy a santa Cruz deck, but you can boycott indy, thrasher, etc. Nobody wants to boycott indu though, regardless of how badly the enabled all of this. Says a lot.

yeah its easy to go against brands you may already not like. im done with indy though. same with thunder since they fall under the dlx brand. ill use what i have and then move on.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on May 16, 2018, 12:28:40 PM
I just fucked around and realized that I'm a hypocrite about this, and in some years this may be me.
While i'm ashamed of it today, I definitely was a person who used "gay" as a catch-all term for something lacking or negative. I also am embarrassed to say I used the word "Faggot" to hopefully get that smoke billowing with several individuals over the years to whom I meant to cause harm.

While i've never rocked nazi/kkk/pro-hetero or anti-homosexual memorabilia, I have a past, just like Jessee.  Was Jessee's altercation with Peanut unprovoked: they were all just ripping and jessee looks over and lets the n-bomb drop, unprovoked? I sorta believe it, anyone know anything circumstantial? Maybe they had beef and Jessee wanted to bring it to the streets? It still makes him racist, but what if he really is trying to change?

I'm saying all that to say this:
If (IF) Jessee is on the level, I feel a sort of empathy for him. If he is really trying to change, and you won't let him, where does that leave you?
I definitely shouldn't be throwing the stones in here like I did, because my crackhouse is glass/plastic/plexiglass.

"I don't take pictures with niggas" - Michael Jordan to Chamillionaire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4ZQERHL6ow 
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 16, 2018, 12:31:52 PM
you are not a hypocrite. most of us have made poor decisions in our pasts but the main difference here is that while most people seem to change for the better as they grew up Jessee continued to associate himself with the very things he supposedly evolved from.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: gollum mcjinglemeballs on May 16, 2018, 12:43:56 PM
Is this what Oblow meant by #meinto?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: I.C. Weiner on May 16, 2018, 01:25:36 PM
so is this over now? SC, Indy, OJ and Cons will continue to support a neo nazi and use nazi symbology, nobody leaves their teams, and we accept that scumbags are a massive force in skateboarding
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: StepDude on May 16, 2018, 01:26:29 PM
skateboarders are losers.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 16, 2018, 01:28:09 PM
skateboarders are losers.

Must be why some like Nazis so much
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Lame_Nigga on May 16, 2018, 01:32:12 PM
so is this over now? SC, Indy, OJ and Cons will continue to support a neo nazi and use nazi symbology, nobody leaves their teams, and we accept that scumbags are a massive force in skateboarding
Pretty much.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: StepDude on May 16, 2018, 01:32:23 PM
skateboarders are losers.

Must be why some like Nazis so much

very true
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: calvinsdream on May 16, 2018, 01:40:35 PM
Could we at least get Winkowski on black label or anti hero before SC shits the bed again?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Donkey Lips on May 16, 2018, 01:51:29 PM
Love that Scout said she was done with this thread yesterday, but is currently viewing it right now.

It's not done. Just decide with your wallet. If you don't like what these brands support, don't support them. I bought my last set of Indys in October, and I'll never have another pair of Converse.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: leticia on May 16, 2018, 02:00:25 PM
Iím in the middle of some work stuff, but i have to tell you, I canít stop doing quick checks to see how things are going...and Iím so fired up you guys arenít backing down to the ďbro outsĒ that are going down.  These ďindustryĒ people arenít his real friends..they have selfish interests in mind.  Stay strong...you guys are not wrong!!!  Fact.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: tortfeasor on May 16, 2018, 02:04:59 PM
Love that Scout said she was done with this thread yesterday, but is currently viewing it right now.

It's not done. Just decide with your wallet. If you don't like what these brands support, don't support them. I bought my last set of Indys in October, and I'll never have another pair of Converse.

pretty much this.  despite my assertion at the top of this thread, I'm done with indy.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Cctv on May 16, 2018, 02:06:18 PM
Leticia,
Any chance you could re upload this screen grab?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: straight on May 16, 2018, 02:10:46 PM
Iím in the middle of some work stuff

trying to picture this
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: feedmeseymour on May 16, 2018, 02:14:28 PM
If you need your spirits raised, this speech is still great.
https://youtu.be/c7DvAFhrJ8Q
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: BacksideWallride on May 16, 2018, 02:16:18 PM
Pathetic. The industry and many pros and countless groupies back him harder than ever now. I bet you all anything Indy, Santa Cruz and whoever else will actually PROFIT from this. Tons of racists out there. Remember when Paula Dean dropped the n-word? When people called for boycotts, racists around the country bought all her books.

This is industry skateboarding. They have spoken, Jesse is now a "hero" "legend" among other glowing titles.

I don't want to sound pecimistic or defeatist, but we lost. He's going on 1000 posts of love and respect from groms to pros. There's only like 100 of us on SLAP if even, we had the heart but he has the numbers.

Fuck all you racists scumbags and motherfuck 2 hat kook nazi Jason. Fuck his daughter too. You suck
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 16, 2018, 02:16:22 PM
Iím in the middle of some work stuff, but i have to tell you, I canít stop doing quick checks to see how things are going...and Iím so fired up you guys arenít backing down to the ďbro outsĒ that are going down.  These ďindustryĒ people arenít his real friends..they have selfish interests in mind.  Stay strong...you guys are not wrong!!!  Fact.

dont forget to post those texts!
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 16, 2018, 02:18:35 PM
Pathetic. The industry and many pros and countless groupies back him harder than ever now. I bet you all anything Indy, Santa Cruz and whoever else will actually PROFIT from this. Tons of racists out there. Remember when Paula Dean dropped the n-word? When people called for boycotts, racists around the country bought all her books.

This is industry skateboarding. They have spoken, Jesse is now a "hero" "legend" among other glowing titles.

I don't want to sound pecimistic or defeatist, but we lost. He's going on 1000 posts of love and respect from groms to pros. There's only like 100 of us on SLAP if even, we had the heart but he has the numbers.

Fuck all you racists scumbags and motherfuck 2 hat kook nazi Jason. Fuck his daughter too. You suck

i definitely think this helps SC and Indy in the core points category. im not sure how it helps cons, so maybe there is still hope from them?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on May 16, 2018, 02:24:15 PM
I just fucked around and realized that I'm a hypocrite about this, and in some years this may be me.
While i'm ashamed of it today, I definitely was a person who used "gay" as a catch-all term for something lacking or negative. I also am embarrassed to say I used the word "Faggot" to hopefully get that smoke billowing with several individuals over the years to whom I meant to cause harm.

While i've never rocked nazi/kkk/pro-hetero or anti-homosexual memorabilia, I have a past, just like Jessee.  Was Jessee's altercation with Peanut unprovoked: they were all just ripping and jessee looks over and lets the n-bomb drop, unprovoked? I sorta believe it, anyone know anything circumstantial? Maybe they had beef and Jessee wanted to bring it to the streets? It still makes him racist, but what if he really is trying to change?

I'm saying all that to say this:
If (IF) Jessee is on the level, I feel a sort of empathy for him. If he is really trying to change, and you won't let him, where does that leave you?
I definitely shouldn't be throwing the stones in here like I did, because my crackhouse is glass/plastic/plexiglass.

"I don't take pictures with niggas" - Michael Jordan to Chamillionaire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4ZQERHL6ow

 Jesse was  picking on Blaize Blouin (peep his rip compilation dudes so good) so peanut asked him to stop, but then Jesse called him a -----.   But anyway I'm pretty sure jesse is a card carrying 'fuck up -------' racist man so I dunno if you want to defend that.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: feedmeseymour on May 16, 2018, 02:35:25 PM

To be fair, I wouldnít want a pic with chamillionaire either

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-z-qPK2TBa3w/TqeLOrzBS1I/AAAAAAAAAuw/Zyvf51XbN-8/s1600/michael-jordan-mustache-hitler.jpg)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Chapingro on May 16, 2018, 02:35:32 PM
Iím in the middle of some work stuff, but i have to tell you, I canít stop doing quick checks to see how things are going...and Iím so fired up you guys arenít backing down to the ďbro outsĒ that are going down.  These ďindustryĒ people arenít his real friends..they have selfish interests in mind.  Stay strong...you guys are not wrong!!!  Fact.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: CRAILFISH TO REVERT on May 16, 2018, 02:38:13 PM
I just fucked around and realized that I'm a hypocrite about this, and in some years this may be me.
While i'm ashamed of it today, I definitely was a person who used "gay" as a catch-all term for something lacking or negative. I also am embarrassed to say I used the word "Faggot" to hopefully get that smoke billowing with several individuals over the years to whom I meant to cause harm.

While i've never rocked nazi/kkk/pro-hetero or anti-homosexual memorabilia, I have a past, just like Jessee.  Was Jessee's altercation with Peanut unprovoked: they were all just ripping and jessee looks over and lets the n-bomb drop, unprovoked? I sorta believe it, anyone know anything circumstantial? Maybe they had beef and Jessee wanted to bring it to the streets? It still makes him racist, but what if he really is trying to change?

I'm saying all that to say this:
If (IF) Jessee is on the level, I feel a sort of empathy for him. If he is really trying to change, and you won't let him, where does that leave you?
I definitely shouldn't be throwing the stones in here like I did, because my crackhouse is glass/plastic/plexiglass.

"I don't take pictures with niggas" - Michael Jordan to Chamillionaire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4ZQERHL6ow

 Jesse was  picking on Blaize Blouin (peep his rip compilation dudes so good) so peanut asked him to stop, but then Jesse called him a -----.   But anyway I'm pretty sure jesse is a card carrying 'fuck up -------' racist man so I dunno if you want to defend that.

Blaize was a known asshole in is own right [still loved the dude but that's the truth] and he could 100% defend himself. Jason Jessee definitely got what he deserved but him 'picking' on Blaize is kindof laughable.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: leticia on May 16, 2018, 02:40:00 PM
Leticia,
Any chance you could re upload this screen grab?
Im seriously so clueless on how to post fotos ..Iíve tried so many times, but it keeps denying me!  Like I said, Iím in the middle of stuff, but once Iím done tonight, I will figure it out and post it!  But if u donít want to wait, u can check out what I posted on my gram:  @letscon.  I will also post his harassing texts heís been sending me when I get home. 
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: drunkenshredder on May 16, 2018, 03:31:42 PM
Did a bunch of young boys riding scooters take over slap? There's a shit ton of crying going on. I didn't know JJ had such a huge influence on your life...If i were you i would be scared to dig deeper on anything you like..you might stop supporting everything you love. we all know everything out there is shit and never meet your heroes...i just don't understand what the purpose of this thread is? should we march through santa cruz? Just trying to see what's next besides starting a new post over and over again until everyone is over it and then we all go back to the emerica msg boards??  help i'm lost
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Alan on May 16, 2018, 03:34:01 PM
  help i'm lost

No shit. Focus your account and go back to 4chan.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Disco234 on May 16, 2018, 03:37:03 PM
Isnít Jimmy Britches a straightedge money embezzling NAZI as well?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: HyenaChaser on May 16, 2018, 03:37:20 PM
All the comments in his apology post are completely missing the point, a lot of "that was a long time ago" shit, completely ignoring the recent 10 years of questionable/blatantly racist iconography. Many of his supporting commentators are outright neo-nazis. And Daryl Angel.

I don't think this will ever get big media attention but it should make the "headlines" within our community
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: goldensky2028 on May 16, 2018, 03:40:51 PM
This looks horrible.

https://shop.ccs.com/brixton-cien-jason-jesse-hp-mesh-hat (https://shop.ccs.com/brixton-cien-jason-jesse-hp-mesh-hat)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on May 16, 2018, 03:54:00 PM
(https://image.ibb.co/dPnS1J/Explain_this.jpg)
Anyone wanna explain how this comment makes sense?
Oh yeah, he's fat and old, and his profile is private. Makes sense.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: GardenSkater77 on May 16, 2018, 04:00:26 PM
Iím in the middle of some work stuff, but i have to tell you, I canít stop doing quick checks to see how things are going...and Iím so fired up you guys arenít backing down to the ďbro outsĒ that are going down.  These ďindustryĒ people arenít his real friends..they have selfish interests in mind.  Stay strong...you guys are not wrong!!!  Fact.

How do you still have a job at Consolidated? Itís done Jason Jesse left. That was Jason Jesseís company. Birdo sucks. They gave Jesse Paez the boot.

On the real, bring back the 8.5 smart monkey. That was a sick deck.

Also, checked out your Instagram and didnít see Jasonís texts.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Pill_Cosby on May 16, 2018, 04:03:38 PM
The comments on his post are fucking cancer
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: happenstance on May 16, 2018, 04:05:40 PM
I can tell you that we had a black person come to Consolidated when he worked here, and Jason wouldn't even shake his hand.  But the black person didn't tell us that happened until after Jason quit, because he was scared to. 
Something that has not been addressed much in this thread is the way he actually treats people. We don't have a lot of verified stories to go off of, but I am sure there are a lot more examples like this.

Speaking of Consolidated and treating people poorly, I really recommend you all listen to their episode on the Shetler Show (I know... it's not the best podcast...) from about 1:00:27 - 1:30:00. They explain in great detail what it was like working with JJ, culminating in him trashing their warehouse on Christmas Day. It's pretty shocking stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb4GYojslTc&t=3627s
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: via on May 16, 2018, 04:07:01 PM
(https://image.ibb.co/dPnS1J/Explain_this.jpg)
Anyone wanna explain how this comment makes sense?
Oh yeah, he's fat and old, and his profile is private. Makes sense.

ďBeing offensive is really cool, stop being pussies...but donít call me a racist because that offends meĒ
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: bucketoftruth on May 16, 2018, 04:07:22 PM
Did a bunch of young boys riding scooters take over slap? There's a shit ton of crying going on. I didn't know JJ had such a huge influence on your life...If i were you i would be scared to dig deeper on anything you like..you might stop supporting everything you love. we all know everything out there is shit and never meet your heroes...i just don't understand what the purpose of this thread is? should we march through santa cruz? Just trying to see what's next besides starting a new post over and over again until everyone is over it and then we all go back to the emerica msg boards??  help i'm lost

JJ is obviously a skateboard hero with all the cross promotional jazz hes got going on. He matters just as much as the Dylans and the Muskas when it comes to how skateboarding is looked at from the outside. Maybe its Shock Value Nazis that killed skateboarding in the 80s because they alienate markets. Eventually they got greedy enough to turn their shit to 'low key mode' a la indy hammers. You are the Bro thats cool with his Bros hating his inferior mulato girlfriend because reasons and just chucking it up to good ole 'boardin culture. Fuck you.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: McCly on May 16, 2018, 04:07:49 PM
I just fucked around and realized that I'm a hypocrite about this, and in some years this may be me.
While i'm ashamed of it today, I definitely was a person who used "gay" as a catch-all term for something lacking or negative. I also am embarrassed to say I used the word "Faggot" to hopefully get that smoke billowing with several individuals over the years to whom I meant to cause harm.

While i've never rocked nazi/kkk/pro-hetero or anti-homosexual memorabilia, I have a past, just like Jessee.  Was Jessee's altercation with Peanut unprovoked: they were all just ripping and jessee looks over and lets the n-bomb drop, unprovoked? I sorta believe it, anyone know anything circumstantial? Maybe they had beef and Jessee wanted to bring it to the streets? It still makes him racist, but what if he really is trying to change?

I'm saying all that to say this:
If (IF) Jessee is on the level, I feel a sort of empathy for him. If he is really trying to change, and you won't let him, where does that leave you?
I definitely shouldn't be throwing the stones in here like I did, because my crackhouse is glass/plastic/plexiglass.

"I don't take pictures with niggas" - Michael Jordan to Chamillionaire


 Jesse was  picking on Blaize Blouin (peep his rip compilation dudes so good) so peanut asked him to stop, but then Jesse called him a -----.   But anyway I'm pretty sure jesse is a card carrying 'fuck up -------' racist man so I dunno if you want to defend that.

Blaize was a known asshole in is own right [still loved the dude but that's the truth] and he could 100% defend himself. Jason Jessee definitely got what he deserved but him 'picking' on Blaize is kindof laughable.

Gonna take this time to say RIP Blaize. He was a family friend that passed away before I started skating. I have a long sleeve yellow G&S shirt from him that is dope as fuck but rarely wear to preserve it.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on May 16, 2018, 04:10:52 PM
Iím in the middle of some work stuff, but i have to tell you, I canít stop doing quick checks to see how things are going...and Iím so fired up you guys arenít backing down to the ďbro outsĒ that are going down.  These ďindustryĒ people arenít his real friends..they have selfish interests in mind.  Stay strong...you guys are not wrong!!!  Fact.

How do you still have a job at Consolidated? Anywhere?



Also, checked out your Instagram and didnít see Jasonís texts.

Leticia like "LETSCON" these people into thinking I support them but in reality all i am is just a clout chasing grandma
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: CRAILFISH TO REVERT on May 16, 2018, 04:16:43 PM
I just fucked around and realized that I'm a hypocrite about this, and in some years this may be me.
While i'm ashamed of it today, I definitely was a person who used "gay" as a catch-all term for something lacking or negative. I also am embarrassed to say I used the word "Faggot" to hopefully get that smoke billowing with several individuals over the years to whom I meant to cause harm.

While i've never rocked nazi/kkk/pro-hetero or anti-homosexual memorabilia, I have a past, just like Jessee.  Was Jessee's altercation with Peanut unprovoked: they were all just ripping and jessee looks over and lets the n-bomb drop, unprovoked? I sorta believe it, anyone know anything circumstantial? Maybe they had beef and Jessee wanted to bring it to the streets? It still makes him racist, but what if he really is trying to change?

I'm saying all that to say this:
If (IF) Jessee is on the level, I feel a sort of empathy for him. If he is really trying to change, and you won't let him, where does that leave you?
I definitely shouldn't be throwing the stones in here like I did, because my crackhouse is glass/plastic/plexiglass.

"I don't take pictures with niggas" - Michael Jordan to Chamillionaire


 Jesse was  picking on Blaize Blouin (peep his rip compilation dudes so good) so peanut asked him to stop, but then Jesse called him a -----.   But anyway I'm pretty sure jesse is a card carrying 'fuck up -------' racist man so I dunno if you want to defend that.

Blaize was a known asshole in is own right [still loved the dude but that's the truth] and he could 100% defend himself. Jason Jessee definitely got what he deserved but him 'picking' on Blaize is kindof laughable.

Gonna take this time to say RIP Blaize. He was a family friend that passed away before I started skating. I have a long sleeve yellow G&S shirt from him that is dope as fuck but rarely wear to preserve it.

Blaize was one of a kind.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Willie on May 16, 2018, 04:30:38 PM
(https://image.ibb.co/dPnS1J/Explain_this.jpg)
Anyone wanna explain how this comment makes sense?
Oh yeah, he's fat and old, and his profile is private. Makes sense.

ďBeing offensive is really cool, stop being pussies...but donít call me a racist because that offends meĒ


This one is fucking baffling. Either own it or maybe pick some different flair.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: h00man on May 16, 2018, 04:40:30 PM
(https://image.ibb.co/dPnS1J/Explain_this.jpg)
Anyone wanna explain how this comment makes sense?
Oh yeah, he's fat and old, and his profile is private. Makes sense.

ďBeing offensive is really cool, stop being pussies...but donít call me a racist because that offends meĒ


This one is fucking baffling. Either own it or maybe pick some different flair.

People like this deserve to fucking die.

also drunkenshredder please fuck off with your shit. Focus your account, your scooter, your computer, then your face.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: midevilco on May 16, 2018, 04:44:12 PM
I can tell you that we had a black person come to Consolidated when he worked here, and Jason wouldn't even shake his hand.  But the black person didn't tell us that happened until after Jason quit, because he was scared to. 
Something that has not been addressed much in this thread is the way he actually treats people. We don't have a lot of verified stories to go off of, but I am sure there are a lot more examples like this.

Speaking of Consolidated and treating people poorly, I really recommend you all listen to their episode on the Shetler Show (I know... it's not the best podcast...) from about 1:00:27 - 1:30:00. They explain in great detail what it was like working with JJ, culminating in him trashing their warehouse on Christmas Day. It's pretty shocking stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb4GYojslTc&t=3627s

Wow, this guy deserves everything he has coming to him, and a lot more.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gentle Jones on May 16, 2018, 04:45:59 PM
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24993494_10156021735687853_3945356889341826329_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=d7fe45d9692e9ecd10151a6ebffd65bb&oe=5B985A6E)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Donkey Lips on May 16, 2018, 05:06:28 PM
Neat to see Atiba cosigning Jessee's "apology" with the same red heart emoji bullshit. Same reply he put up when Daryl's ex gf outted him about being a piece of shit that knocks around women. At least he's consistent.

(https://i.imgur.com/LrqJ3zk.png)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Silky Johnson on May 16, 2018, 05:16:59 PM
Atiba is the worst on social media dude constantly kisses ass just to be in the loop on what's currently "in"
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: DaSk8D00D on May 16, 2018, 05:34:28 PM
I can't believe I'm seeing Independent Trucks, OJ wheels, Santa Cruz, and various industry heads hit him with praising hand and heart emojis in the comments of that weak ass "apology" on instagram. What did he even apologize for? Dude didnt acknowledge anything specific and kept it vague as possible...That vid was WEAK as fuck and I'm not falling for the okey doke. I dont skate Indy's but I do have a hoody as well as some OJ's on my girls cruiser that I'll getting rid of ASAP. Fuck any of these brands trying to slide this shit under the rug and act like people are tripping for no reason. Fuck outta here. I really hope Indy falls out of the "big 3" after this but unfortunately its probably not gonna happen. Hit these brands where it hurts and stop buying/repping their shit.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on May 16, 2018, 05:36:57 PM
Hit these brands where it hurts and stop buying/repping their shit.
sounds like a plan BUT we also need to let them know that we'll no longer support them by commenting/ DM-ing them etc.

Ryan Lay is still the only pro out there (that I know of?) that's not afraid to speak his mind on this:
(https://i.imgur.com/e6QXEgr.png)
mad props to him!
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Matthew_James on May 16, 2018, 05:40:18 PM
Inb4 Leticia says "lol idk how to upload my texts to insta! It's so hard, it's not cooperating!!!"

Seriously you bottom feeder, get the fuck off of Slap.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 16, 2018, 05:40:45 PM
(https://image.ibb.co/dPnS1J/Explain_this.jpg)
Anyone wanna explain how this comment makes sense?
Oh yeah, he's fat and old, and his profile is private. Makes sense.

ďBeing offensive is really cool, stop being pussies...but donít call me a racist because that offends meĒ


This one is fucking baffling. Either own it or maybe pick some different flair.

People like this deserve to fucking die.

also drunkenshredder please fuck off with your shit. Focus your account, your scooter, your computer, then your face.

This kind of stuff is why itís important to not promote people into this stuff. Here you have a guy that canít even realize the swastika is a racist symbol. So just because you believe Jessee is a good guy and doesnít mean it that way doesnít mean heís not promoting hate even if they donít intend to. How can Indy and Santa Cruz deny there is a problem here?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: CRITICAL BEATDOWN on May 16, 2018, 05:43:27 PM
(https://image.ibb.co/dPnS1J/Explain_this.jpg)
Anyone wanna explain how this comment makes sense?
Oh yeah, he's fat and old, and his profile is private. Makes sense.

ďBeing offensive is really cool, stop being pussies...but donít call me a racist because that offends meĒ


This one is fucking baffling. Either own it or maybe pick some different flair.

People like this deserve to fucking die.

also drunkenshredder please fuck off with your shit. Focus your account, your scooter, your computer, then your face.

This kind of stuff is why itís important to not promote people into this stuff. Here you have a guy that canít even realize the swastika is a racist symbol. So just because you believe Jessee is a good guy and doesnít mean it that way doesnít mean heís not promoting hate even if they donít intend to. How can Indy and Santa Cruz deny there is a problem here?
Because their entire image as companies are engrained in this shit.  They can't acknowledge it without fundamentally changing everything about themselves.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: CRITICAL BEATDOWN on May 16, 2018, 05:44:41 PM
Inb4 Leticia says "lol idk how to upload my texts to insta! It's so hard, it's not cooperating!!!"

Seriously you bottom feeder, get the fuck off of Slap.
Aren't you that female hating elliot rogers dude? Die in a fire.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: streetsoup on May 16, 2018, 05:46:05 PM
Hit these brands where it hurts and stop buying/repping their shit.
sounds like a plan BUT we also need to let them know that we'll no longer support them by commenting/ DM-ing them etc.

Ryan Lay is still the only pro out there (that I know of?) that's not afraid to speak his mind on this:
(https://i.imgur.com/e6QXEgr.png)
mad props to him!


Hell yeah, Ryan Lay was already the shit, now he is the shittiest of the shits!
Props to him, going to go watch his Fetish part now.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 16, 2018, 05:51:08 PM
Hit these brands where it hurts and stop buying/repping their shit.
sounds like a plan BUT we also need to let them know that we'll no longer support them by commenting/ DM-ing them etc.

Ryan Lay is still the only pro out there (that I know of?) that's not afraid to speak his mind on this:
(https://i.imgur.com/e6QXEgr.png)
mad props to him!


Hell yeah, Ryan Lay was already the shit, now he is the shittiest of the shits!
Props to him, going to go watch his Fetish part now.

Its sad how many guts it has to take to criticize people in the industry. Piss off the wrong people and good luck getting a gig. Itís like trying to report a crooked cop.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: bo bice on May 16, 2018, 05:52:40 PM
Holy shit the outpouring of support in the comments of his IG make it sound like dude came out of the closet or something, HOW IS THIS HAPPENING
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: bo bice on May 16, 2018, 05:53:46 PM
probably gonna cop a Ryan Lay deck next purchase
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: CRITICAL BEATDOWN on May 16, 2018, 05:55:28 PM
Ryan Lay of Krux though?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: feedmeseymour on May 16, 2018, 06:00:31 PM
The comments on his post are fucking cancer

(http://i63.tinypic.com/24eqcte.jpg)

Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 16, 2018, 06:02:56 PM
At least these dummies falling on the wrong side of history are outing themselves and providing proof at the same time.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: streetsoup on May 16, 2018, 06:03:44 PM
Schmitty is a SLAP message board pussy.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: nopes on May 16, 2018, 06:18:06 PM
The worst thing about all the people in the industry posting all these supportive messages is they are making it even less likely anyone in the industry speaks out because they see the entire industry being against them.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: streetsoup on May 16, 2018, 06:21:39 PM
The worst thing about all the people in the industry posting all these supportive messages is they are making it even less likely anyone in the industry speaks out because they see the entire industry being against them.

This. We have to create an environment where people don't feel like the odd man out for speaking out against this shitty shit.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on May 16, 2018, 06:21:52 PM
defs a massive industry circle-jerk happening at the moment.
How many people has Oblow blocked from his insta now?

edit:
Schmitty is a SLAP message board pussy.
this can't be stressed enough, mod privileges revoked please!
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: CRITICAL BEATDOWN on May 16, 2018, 06:38:21 PM
defs a massive industry circle-jerk happening at the moment.
How many people has Oblow blocked from his insta now?

edit:
Schmitty is a SLAP message board pussy.
this can't be stressed enough, mod privileges revoked please!
Randozzi commented on oblow's post with a bunch of hearts and shit, he should go too tbh. Nothing will change though, in the industry, on slap, honestly.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: Matthew_James on May 16, 2018, 06:44:46 PM
Can we get on Dill for all his "white people are blowing it" nonsense since he gave Jason Jesse a guest board? Like come on, way to throw white people as a whole under the bus as you simultaneously promote a neo Nazi scumbag...

All these hip weirdos are hypocrites in rare form. The industry has always been made up of these people, and at this point it's inescapable if you subscribe to any facet of the industry.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: feedmeseymour on May 16, 2018, 06:48:44 PM
This was posted here earlier but she deleted it off her insta, they must of sold out with all this attention!

(http://i63.tinypic.com/2m4f4wn.jpg)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: IHOP on May 16, 2018, 06:58:24 PM
Yo schmitty you fuckin poser, come say something to us.  Its easy to just like other peoples opinions instead of actually speaking on an issue.  Whole skateboard industry is soft as shit.

On a similar note, anybody have snowboard/biking knowledge, has this type of thing happened in those worlds as well? how was it dealt with?

Has there even been a public disowning/callout of a skater besides like, gator or the pappas brothers?
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: McCly on May 16, 2018, 06:58:52 PM
The comments on his post are fucking cancer

(http://i63.tinypic.com/24eqcte.jpg)

Oh shit I know this person irl.
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: IHOP on May 16, 2018, 07:00:06 PM
This was posted here earlier but she deleted it off her insta, they must of sold out with all this attention!

(http://i63.tinypic.com/2m4f4wn.jpg)

Yea she came here and talked about it, apparently "it isnt a racist thing" just vintage hells angels gear  ::)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: ogbawtawd on May 16, 2018, 07:05:40 PM
Public apologies are lame, only companys and leaders should publicy apologize, otherwise apologies are a personal thing. What would be cool is if he explained how he became to be a "Nazi" and the thought process/circumstances behind it, and how he feels about now. Maybe a interview or something.

Keep shitting on the wack industry stuff, no doubt, but we should come up some shit too, cause if you gonna destroy you gotta build too or else we left with nothing but a wasteland of dead shit.

(scouts pretty hot too I think I have a fetish for Nazi chicks don't hate me I can't control it)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: feedmeseymour on May 16, 2018, 07:06:07 PM
The comments on his post are fucking cancer

(http://i63.tinypic.com/24eqcte.jpg)

Oh shit I know this person irl

Oh word, heís killing it on here
(http://i64.tinypic.com/2eovhck.jpg)
Title: Re: Jason Jessee is a Nazi and Santa Cruz loves him
Post by: oyolar on May 16, 2018, 07:11:26 PM
Public apologies are lame, only companys and leaders should publicy apologize, otherwise apologies are a personal thing. What would be