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Jesus why straight to personal attacks? Just talking about music and there you go.....I don't like west he's a douchebag and very overrated and i'm not the only one to share that opinion. There's many better producers and mcs than this fucking guy.
sorry bonehead hurt your feeling. i thought it was alot more lighthearted. i still think your talking out your ass and the ppl that share your opnion are as well and im sure you and like minded individuals that share your opinion think the same about me. we have a difference of opinion. its ok.
idk how bonehead was personal but either way im sorry.
also who are these better producers!?! and yeah i think 22 grammys def puts you in the legendary conversation, you dont get that many grammys as a rapper (yess i know the grammys are shit but 22 of them def speaks volumes my guy), weather you like it or not most of his catalog is considered hip hop classics. idk how old you are but since west's inception he's always been at the fore front. idk if its cause your a jedi minds tricks kinda guy but the rest of the world clearly agrees with me. look i dont think he's a better rapper then nas or jay or idk a plethora of dudes, but to act like he has 0 talent or is just all hype comes off as asinine. i dont like lil wayne, i think other ppl do his job alot better but i can clearly see his impact and his talent, i can see what brings to the table. you dont have to like kanye but your gonna look real foolish acting like he's just some regular shmegular artist....
I was replying to bawtawd post!!
I don't think grammys are really representative of artistic quality in music. Something annoying also and never really brought up is the actual guys in the music studios behind celebrities like west. They're pretty much doing 80% of the job. Dude rolls in with a sample and actual very very good studio producers and arrangers do the job.
Anybody who knows a little bit about rap history knows that kanye isn't a very good rapper. Sucessful? definitely. But once you're a celebrity and have access to mass media you can pretty much sell any garbage. And get grammys.....Look where we are now with dudes like lil confetti and little yacht being labeled genius.
What do you do to actual musical genius like Coltrane or Mozart when you call dudes like that the same word?
It's fucking sad.
There's a scale when it come to talent and skills in the trade of music, it has nothing to do with being rich or famous.
All this to say that talking about skills, Koston was way more talented in skateboarding than west in rap.
Producers that obliterate Kanye any day:
Dj Premier
J Dilla
Large Professor
Diamond D
Ayatollah
The Alchemist
Pete Rock
MF DOOM
DRE
Rza
Q-Tip
Lord Finesse
Apollo Brown
4th Disciple
Prince Paul
Dan The Automator
J-zone
Madlib
Just Blaze
Vinyl Reanimators
JRawls
9th Wonder
Hi Tek
Da Beatminerz
Marley Marl
Logic
No I.D
Statik Selektah
Havoc
Rick Rubin
Erick Sermon
Godfather Don
Dj Babu
Easy Mo Bee
Dj Muggs
De La
Kankick
The Neptunes
Marco Polo
Probably forgetting a lot..