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Quote from: Adam Abbas on August 16, 2018, 11:34:11 AMExpand QuoteTo me he upholds the idea of originality and individuality that skating needs. Like if skating was just comprised of barney bros who didn't create art, it would suck. He's part of the antidote to this kind of mainstream pressure - how many people who don't skate know how deeply intertwined it is with art? I doubt many do.[close]Is it really an antidote if he's on the payroll of one of the biggest most mainstream corporations in the world?
To me he upholds the idea of originality and individuality that skating needs. Like if skating was just comprised of barney bros who didn't create art, it would suck. He's part of the antidote to this kind of mainstream pressure - how many people who don't skate know how deeply intertwined it is with art? I doubt many do.[close]
Quote from: bogolden on August 16, 2018, 11:28:05 AMExpand QuoteQuote from: jorge on August 16, 2018, 10:20:49 AMExpand QuoteCalling bullshit on those who say they were around when he was in his prime (starting on Vision) and then saying they "just didn't like him or get him." No one at the time loved Natas and didn't get Gonz, everyone loved both. He was hands down the most innovative skater of his time (not even close) and was idolized by absolutely everyone-everytime you saw him he was doing things that either no one had done, or no one had done like that. There seems to be kind of a revisionist history on Slap by younger people who minimize his importance because they know weird Grandpa Gonz only. [close]dont really understand how you can say peoples opinions are "bullshit". Just because you liked both dudes doesnt mean everyone did. IMO, Natas looked cooler and had better style and I liked him way more. He rode for SMA and Gonz rode for fucking Vision. Then Gonz "quit" and i was a young skate rat without a clue and said fuck that guy. I know it's silly but I dont understand why you think everyone liked those guys equally.But to be fair, I never saw Video Days when it came out. I didnt see that video until years later and by that time if it wasnt a Crailtap company i couldnt care less.[close]If you didn't see Video Days when it came out you were either too young or a kook or not that into skating. People didn't stop talking about that video for years. You kinda made my point for me. Everybody who was old enough and was seriously loved skating was basically only talking about BOTH Gonz and Natas. It was that or watching Bill Danforth do bonelesses or whatever.
Quote from: jorge on August 16, 2018, 10:20:49 AMExpand QuoteCalling bullshit on those who say they were around when he was in his prime (starting on Vision) and then saying they "just didn't like him or get him." No one at the time loved Natas and didn't get Gonz, everyone loved both. He was hands down the most innovative skater of his time (not even close) and was idolized by absolutely everyone-everytime you saw him he was doing things that either no one had done, or no one had done like that. There seems to be kind of a revisionist history on Slap by younger people who minimize his importance because they know weird Grandpa Gonz only. [close]dont really understand how you can say peoples opinions are "bullshit". Just because you liked both dudes doesnt mean everyone did. IMO, Natas looked cooler and had better style and I liked him way more. He rode for SMA and Gonz rode for fucking Vision. Then Gonz "quit" and i was a young skate rat without a clue and said fuck that guy. I know it's silly but I dont understand why you think everyone liked those guys equally.But to be fair, I never saw Video Days when it came out. I didnt see that video until years later and by that time if it wasnt a Crailtap company i couldnt care less.[close]
Calling bullshit on those who say they were around when he was in his prime (starting on Vision) and then saying they "just didn't like him or get him." No one at the time loved Natas and didn't get Gonz, everyone loved both. He was hands down the most innovative skater of his time (not even close) and was idolized by absolutely everyone-everytime you saw him he was doing things that either no one had done, or no one had done like that. There seems to be kind of a revisionist history on Slap by younger people who minimize his importance because they know weird Grandpa Gonz only. [close]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbD9ga3fbDAIll always love the gonz but this is just sad now