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Re: Consolidated so late, they’re early.
« Reply #60 on: September 13, 2018, 10:35:23 AM »
I loved the Number One video. This thread is good advertising, I wanna check out some boards now
Haha, awesome.  Do it!  😊

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Re: Consolidated so late, they’re early.
« Reply #61 on: September 13, 2018, 10:40:22 AM »
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So is the gnar/kook system ironic or something? Leticia is propped up yet works at the most hated company.

Most my negative rep came from defending these guys

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kooked both of you if that makes you feel better.
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Awesome. I'm sure it made you feel better doing so.

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Re: Consolidated so late, they’re early.
« Reply #62 on: September 13, 2018, 10:47:09 AM »
Leticia,

I’m already obligated to buy the shoes I ordered from the local shop, so you guys are getting my money regardless.

But I would like to know, what are the conditions like in the factory you use to make the shoes? Is it any different than the average sweat-shop run by vans or Nike?

Do you guys have labor standards when looking at factories?

This isn’t an attack, I’m buying your shoes regardless at this point, but it is something (the main thing, actually) that pisses me off about Nike. So I’m wondering if you guys approach that aspect and differently as well
Hey Cucktard, yeah, our supplier actually sent us fotos of his factory and I posted em on one of the threads about us on here.  I can see if I can find em.  And he also told us that that the working conditions was something that was very important to him.  So yes, we are very comfortable with who we are working with!

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Re: Consolidated so late, they’re early.
« Reply #63 on: September 13, 2018, 10:49:17 AM »
At least 1 out of 4 people in the photo skate
Just out of curiosity, what makes you think Birdo never skated?

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Re: Consolidated so late, they’re early.
« Reply #64 on: September 13, 2018, 10:52:50 AM »
how much are  the banana shoes and are they suede?
canvas won't last but if you have a non slave shoe that is conducive to skating, count me in.
if not, i guess it's back to slavery!

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Re: Consolidated so late, they’re early.
« Reply #65 on: September 13, 2018, 10:54:37 AM »
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They’re our Consolidated Upchucks.
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Ok - never heard of em.
I don’t know how long you’ve been skating,but they came out like about 8-10 years ago?  Anyways, we didn’t do that many or advertise them much either...or maybe we just weren’t on your radar.  😊

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Re: Consolidated so late, they’re early.
« Reply #66 on: September 13, 2018, 10:58:57 AM »
y'all remember this one?
Yeah...we still have em.  They’re our price point boards to try and get the word out... 

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Re: Consolidated so late, they’re early.
« Reply #67 on: September 13, 2018, 11:05:20 AM »
how much are  the banana shoes and are they suede?
canvas won't last but if you have a non slave shoe that is conducive to skating, count me in.
if not, i guess it's back to slavery!
The last run was suede, but this run is canvas.  They’re going for like $55-60, and yes, it is a non-slave shoe. We know pricing on shoes is important, so that helped us bring the price down.  But we also wanted to make sure they lasted, so we added the toe cap and Ollie guard.  We just posted a clip of somebody skating in them over on our gram if you wanna check it out...

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Re: Consolidated so late, they’re early.
« Reply #68 on: September 13, 2018, 11:20:30 AM »
damn, must be a busy day at the consolidated offices.

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Re: Consolidated so late, they’re early.
« Reply #69 on: September 13, 2018, 03:56:46 PM »
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Leticia,

I’m already obligated to buy the shoes I ordered from the local shop, so you guys are getting my money regardless.

But I would like to know, what are the conditions like in the factory you use to make the shoes? Is it any different than the average sweat-shop run by vans or Nike?

Do you guys have labor standards when looking at factories?

This isn’t an attack, I’m buying your shoes regardless at this point, but it is something (the main thing, actually) that pisses me off about Nike. So I’m wondering if you guys approach that aspect and differently as well
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Hey Cucktard, yeah, our supplier actually sent us fotos of his factory and I posted em on one of the threads about us on here.  I can see if I can find em.  And he also told us that that the working conditions was something that was very important to him.  So yes, we are very comfortable with who we are working with!

Thanks for the info, appreciated
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Re: Consolidated so late, they’re early.
« Reply #70 on: September 29, 2018, 06:59:01 PM »
Just picked them up last night.

And for a slip-on, I’m impressed. Canvas outer, some kind of soft mesh lining, the caps are pretty thick and the heelcup is pretty stiff.

The only thing I’m not impressed with is the insole, but I usually switch mine out anyways.

Nice work
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Re: Consolidated so late, they’re early.
« Reply #71 on: September 29, 2018, 09:49:10 PM »
Dude get off of leticia's dick, if you're so juiced about your fucking consolidated shoes send her a PM or some shit instead of carrying on a two-way convo on a fucking internet forum for skateboard gossip you fucking WEABOO!

- The guy at home on a fucking internet forum for skateboard gossip on saturday night.

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Re: Consolidated so late, they’re early.
« Reply #72 on: September 29, 2018, 10:54:41 PM »
In the Nike thread cucktard said he was not impressed with skate shoes the free market produces. He said capitalism is inherently immoral by seeking profit and that a centrally planned government would result in more “ethical” skate shoes. Cucktard is however very impressed with Consolidated’s Kmart quality knock off shoes. God I hope Leticia has two accounts...

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Re: Consolidated so late, they’re early.
« Reply #73 on: September 29, 2018, 11:14:45 PM »
In the Nike thread cucktard said he was not impressed with skate shoes the free market produces. He said capitalism is inherently immoral by seeking profit and that a centrally planned government would result in more “ethical” skate shoes. Cucktard is however very impressed with Consolidated’s Kmart quality knock off shoes. God I hope Leticia has two accounts...

Yes, I buy shoes in an immoral system. I am thusly hypocritical no matter what.

What you seem unable to do is separate my critique of specifically Nike driving the labor race to the bottom of the barrel and me buying shoes.

PS- the free market is not the sole driver of innovation. Human ingenuity is, that that happens regardless of economic system.
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Re: Consolidated so late, they’re early.
« Reply #74 on: September 30, 2018, 12:24:03 AM »
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In the Nike thread cucktard said he was not impressed with skate shoes the free market produces. He said capitalism is inherently immoral by seeking profit and that a centrally planned government would result in more “ethical” skate shoes. Cucktard is however very impressed with Consolidated’s Kmart quality knock off shoes. God I hope Leticia has two accounts...
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Yes, I buy shoes in an immoral system. I am thusly hypocritical no matter what.

What you seem unable to do is separate my critique of specifically Nike driving the labor race to the bottom of the barrel and me buying shoes.

PS- the free market is not the sole driver of innovation. Human ingenuity is, that that happens regardless of economic system.
Uh, don't you mean necessity? You seem wet, real wet.

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Re: Consolidated so late, they’re early.
« Reply #75 on: September 30, 2018, 12:56:32 AM »
Necessity does drive a lot of innovation, but not all.

There has been a lot of science done for the sake of science, not because it is ‘necessary ‘ in an economic sense. To satisfy human curiosity.

The invention of skateboarding wasn’t filling any kind of necessity except to kill boredom when waves were flat.

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Re: Consolidated so late, they’re early.
« Reply #76 on: September 30, 2018, 08:20:25 AM »
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Leticia,

I’m already obligated to buy the shoes I ordered from the local shop, so you guys are getting my money regardless.

But I would like to know, what are the conditions like in the factory you use to make the shoes? Is it any different than the average sweat-shop run by vans or Nike?

Do you guys have labor standards when looking at factories?

This isn’t an attack, I’m buying your shoes regardless at this point, but it is something (the main thing, actually) that pisses me off about Nike. So I’m wondering if you guys approach that aspect and differently as well
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Hey Cucktard, yeah, our supplier actually sent us fotos of his factory and I posted em on one of the threads about us on here.  I can see if I can find em.  And he also told us that that the working conditions was something that was very important to him.  So yes, we are very comfortable with who we are working with!

Questions for Leticia:

1. Do you ever worry that by holding such a polarized view of the world you miss out on the true nuanced nature of reality? By making a blanket statement of “Fuck Nike” you’re essentially saying everything they do is always bad. Can you admit that while you disagree with certain actions, there are plenty of good things they do. Seeing the world in only black and white terms is one of the classic logical fallacies: False Dilemma/False Dichotomy.

2. You’ve stated multiple times that you do not skateboard. I’m curious to why? You run a skateboard company and have immersed yourself in skateboarding culture. It’s interesting that you feel confident to be an authoritative voice in our community yet show no desire to actually participate in it.

3. Do you hold the same standards of “fuck Nike” in other areas of your life? Before you buy a toothbrush or nail clipper do you research the company to make sure it 100% lines up with the entirety your ethics? I’m assuming you can’t ever use amazon because of their documented treatment of workers. You eat meat, so you’re comfortable with the loss of a sentient being for your pleasure, yet despise an outside company entering skateboarding. I also find it interesting that you have a photo drinking Coors light, who do exactly what you claim to despise in skateboarding to the craft beer industry. You also have a photo drinking a Red Bull. Curious to why Red Bull’s participation in skateboarding, marketing unhealthy drinks to children, is any worse than that of Nike’s.
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Re: Consolidated so late, they’re early.
« Reply #77 on: September 30, 2018, 11:50:27 AM »
Casey Hellseth told me he has never (with his own eyes) seen neither Leticia nor Birdo even step on a skateboard

This is the most fraud company in skateboarding who are selling you on not buying from fraudulent companies.

Leticia and Birdo yall have some real testicles to post vacation pics meanwhile your riders are notoriously struggling

#FuckConsolidated
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Re: Consolidated so late, they’re early.
« Reply #78 on: September 30, 2018, 01:30:27 PM »
Necessity does drive a lot of innovation, but not all.

There has been a lot of science done for the sake of science, not because it is ‘necessary ‘ in an economic sense. To satisfy human curiosity.

The invention of skateboarding wasn’t filling any kind of necessity except to kill boredom when waves were flat.


Whatever dude. You bore me.

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Re: Consolidated so late, they’re early.
« Reply #79 on: September 30, 2018, 02:36:40 PM »
Necessity does drive a lot of innovation, but not all.

There has been a lot of science done for the sake of science, not because it is ‘necessary ‘ in an economic sense. To satisfy human curiosity.

The invention of skateboarding wasn’t filling any kind of necessity except to kill boredom when waves were flat.
Ah yes the scientific invention of the skateboard. Please humor me on what your ideal economic system is.

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Re: Consolidated so late, they’re early.
« Reply #80 on: September 30, 2018, 03:44:34 PM »
Necessity does drive a lot of innovation, but not all.

There has been a lot of science done for the sake of science, not because it is ‘necessary ‘ in an economic sense. To satisfy human curiosity.

The invention of skateboarding wasn’t filling any kind of necessity except to kill boredom when waves were flat.

Still unclear how your made up utopian economy will allocate scarce resources, each of which have alternative uses.

But anyways.... are you foreign or something dude? Consolidated is based out of Santa Cruz and no one in Santa Cruz fucks with them.

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Re: Consolidated so late, they’re early.
« Reply #81 on: September 30, 2018, 09:36:30 PM »
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Leticia,

I’m already obligated to buy the shoes I ordered from the local shop, so you guys are getting my money regardless.

But I would like to know, what are the conditions like in the factory you use to make the shoes? Is it any different than the average sweat-shop run by vans or Nike?

Do you guys have labor standards when looking at factories?

This isn’t an attack, I’m buying your shoes regardless at this point, but it is something (the main thing, actually) that pisses me off about Nike. So I’m wondering if you guys approach that aspect and differently as well
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Hey Cucktard, yeah, our supplier actually sent us fotos of his factory and I posted em on one of the threads about us on here.  I can see if I can find em.  And he also told us that that the working conditions was something that was very important to him.  So yes, we are very comfortable with who we are working with!
did he pinky swear?

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Re: Consolidated so late, they’re early.
« Reply #82 on: September 30, 2018, 09:54:57 PM »
Casey Hellseth told me he has never (with his own eyes) seen neither Leticia nor Birdo even step on a skateboard

This is the most fraud company in skateboarding who are selling you on not buying from fraudulent companies.

Leticia and Birdo yall have some real testicles to post vacation pics meanwhile your riders are notoriously struggling

#FuckConsolidated

Who doesn't remember Leticia's Hall of Meat miniramp drop in?

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Re: Consolidated so late, they’re early.
« Reply #83 on: September 30, 2018, 10:21:39 PM »
Ah yes the scientific invention of the skateboard. Please humor me on what your ideal economic system is.



Still unclear how your made up utopian economy will allocate scarce resources, each of which have alternative uses.

But anyways.... are you foreign or something dude?

I’m putting these together because apparently it’s completely reasonable to ask for a working alternative for mandkind’s economy any time someone dares to point out the shitty aspects of Nike and capitalism.

And I suspect not because you (or the many others that react with this dismissive query that is more a way to shut down the conversation) are interested, but it feels good to yell ‘hypocrite ‘ in your heads and keep things the same rather than acknowledge we need serious change.

But anyways, since you asked...

There are a wealth of different approaches apart from the extreme corporate American model (which by the way, relies heavily on subsidies/tax breaks/tax avoidance, so it’s “socialism for the rich, capitalism for the poor”. )


This could be anything from Schumacher-style ‘Buddhist Economics” theory, mixed economies (markets for luxuries, cooperative control of basic human needs like food, electricity, water), PARECON-style horizontal economies, algorithms for resource allocation based on need (not any different than now, except we use algorithms for profit margins) or anything in between.  For now, i’d be happy with Varoufakis-style steps toward weaning ourselves off the more extreme elements of corporate capitalism.

I don’t have a personal favorite, but it is obvious that Capitalism is unsustainable, exaggerates inequality, and deadly to the planet.

 It needs to end soon, because it has no internal way of stopping resource destruction and pushing global warming to suicidal levels before it’s already too late. Which it may already be.


Bawtawdwon- the skateboard was obviously  an example of everyday innovation, but if you want a scientific one, how about Hubble or CERN?  The skateboard itself is an example of ingenuity based on play, not economic competition, in case I wasn’t being clear enough. Or you being deliberately obtuse.

And by the way, how do you solve the problem of Capitalism’s need for infinite growth with us being on a planet of very limited resources?

Bob, I’m Canadian, but live overseas.
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Re: Consolidated so late, they’re early.
« Reply #84 on: September 30, 2018, 11:00:35 PM »
Leticia would only be smashable if she were a corrections officer and you were doing hard time.