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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #18210 on: May 13, 2017, 11:59:05 AM »
no SSRI it will drive you mad, just smoke some indica at night and try to live good times with friends in the day(skating, music, tennis table, beer, or whathever), do the sharktits programm too (100 pushups everyday), eat fruits...

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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #18211 on: May 14, 2017, 02:33:47 AM »
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no SSRI it will drive you mad, just smoke some indica at night and try to live good times with friends in the day(skating, music, tennis table, beer, or whathever), do the sharktits programm too (100 pushups everyday), eat fruits...
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Vitamin D deficiency does contribute to lower seratonin levels. So, consuming Vitamin D and Omega-3 oils would be beneficial. It's probably best not to trip until you get your shit figured out either. Basically, if you're depressed, you have to just force yourself to stay active and be outdoors. The sun does wonders. If you keep yourself occupied, doing things you love, your mind stays away from the dark place. Also, cut out estrogenic foods because it affects your mood/depression. This includes beer. I haven't drank for the past two days and my mood has been getting better. I've been able to think clearly and better understand what I need to do to get where I want to be.

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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #18212 on: May 14, 2017, 05:04:24 AM »
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Please don't take this as a cry for help or as a whine or a sign of crippling depression, or worse, hardcore memery, but on every passing day, I get more and more convinced that I'm going to kill myself. Hopefully not soon, probably in my 50s or 60s in a very subtle, dignified, and filled with plausible deniability-way, but who knows where life might take us 5 minutes from now. My genes are fucked, most of my ancestors are either mentally or neurologically ill, and I don't want to make an ass of myself and I want to control the way I leave. I just hope that I'm still living at a time and age where such a subject is still taboo, and not the duty of every untermensch or elderly citizen.
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Ok so I'm going to give you some tips, just beware it's not the cheapest way but it's the best one in the long run:



It's kind of disturbing you think there is a "best way"(for everyone?) and you know it, this is how like 50% of the human emotional spectrum has become medicalized. Pretty arrogant and deluded statement to make. Just because it worked for you doesn't mean it is the best way.

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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #18213 on: May 14, 2017, 05:49:48 AM »
Some people who are depressed or have anxiety need SSRIs and there's nothing wrong with that. People like that, including me, i couldn't just change my diet or work out and my anxiety would magically get better. People like me, our brains are fucked, our chemical balance is fucked. People who never experienced this usually give the worst advice aka the people above me except for Mark and also think weed is the only drug you need to get through life, "WEED SAVES LIVES". SSRI's saved my life, with them my anxiety got better then eventually i was able to keep getting better with working out and quit drinking. We just need help

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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #18214 on: May 14, 2017, 06:30:33 AM »
I feel you Tobey, but telling someone to "get on some SSRI" just from reading a SLAP post is pretty fucked up... everyone ponders suicide at some point. Camus said "deciding whether or not life is worth living is to answer the fundamental question in philosophy".. Everyone needs to decide for themselves whether awesome parts of life make the shitty parts worthwhile, and I don't think thinking about that means you should be on medication .

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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #18215 on: May 14, 2017, 06:48:14 AM »
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Please don't take this as a cry for help or as a whine or a sign of crippling depression, or worse, hardcore memery, but on every passing day, I get more and more convinced that I'm going to kill myself. Hopefully not soon, probably in my 50s or 60s in a very subtle, dignified, and filled with plausible deniability-way, but who knows where life might take us 5 minutes from now. My genes are fucked, most of my ancestors are either mentally or neurologically ill, and I don't want to make an ass of myself and I want to control the way I leave. I just hope that I'm still living at a time and age where such a subject is still taboo, and not the duty of every untermensch or elderly citizen.
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Ok so I'm going to give you some tips, just beware it's not the cheapest way but it's the best one in the long run:



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It's kind of disturbing you think there is a "best way"(for everyone?) and you know it, this is how like 50% of the human emotional spectrum has become medicalized. Pretty arrogant and deluded statement to make. Just because it worked for you doesn't mean it is the best way.

Really??  :) I'm not sure if you're serious.
Did I sound arrogant and deluded? Of course everything written on this forum is 'some dude on the internet advice', I'm just saying TO ME is the best way to treat certain problems. I'm born with it and the only way for me to get through and living a normal life is ALSO being on SSRI, like (and I know is a stretched comparison) people with diabetes need insuline shots. You're trying to give to your body (brain in this case) normal levels of an element.
Would it be better not to take them? Sure! Is it worse than watching the ceiling every night and not getting out of bed in the mornings? Hell no.
There are some different degrees of depression of course, but our carioca friend 20matar here told, and correct me if I'm wrong, that has had it and also family members have it (which increases the possibility of developing it).
It's a very important topic for me and the only real point I'm trying to make it's that looking for professional help is fundamental, and if you don't there's a chance you're falling back into it harder.
It also doesn't help that I think in one language and type in another one, but the last thing I'm trying to do here is being rude or seem like I'm dropping dogmas.

Edit: Also quoting Camus or any other writer doesn't seem a very appropriate way to theorise the problem.
Edit2: hey tobey hopefully I'm not the idiot who talks without experience lol. All I said it's based on my shitty life haha
Edit3: self 'medication' (fullcab) is a recipe for disaster.
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« Reply #18216 on: May 14, 2017, 07:17:29 AM »
I feel you Tobey, but telling someone to "get on some SSRI" just from reading a SLAP post is pretty fucked up... everyone ponders suicide at some point. Camus said "deciding whether or not life is worth living is to answer the fundamental question in philosophy".. Everyone needs to decide for themselves whether awesome parts of life make the shitty parts worthwhile, and I don't think thinking about that means you should be on medication .

I was even talking about him, just in general of how people who never experienced a mental illness and they think they know everything but you just end up looking like a fucking idiot. Also, you really don't even know what a SSRI is if you think its like a dreadful thing to be on. Shit isn't like Xanax or kpins. It literally doesn't even do anything to you until about a month of taking them

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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #18217 on: May 14, 2017, 07:39:22 AM »
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Please don't take this as a cry for help or as a whine or a sign of crippling depression, or worse, hardcore memery, but on every passing day, I get more and more convinced that I'm going to kill myself. Hopefully not soon, probably in my 50s or 60s in a very subtle, dignified, and filled with plausible deniability-way, but who knows where life might take us 5 minutes from now. My genes are fucked, most of my ancestors are either mentally or neurologically ill, and I don't want to make an ass of myself and I want to control the way I leave. I just hope that I'm still living at a time and age where such a subject is still taboo, and not the duty of every untermensch or elderly citizen.
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Ok so I'm going to give you some tips, just beware it's not the cheapest way but it's the best one in the long run:



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It's kind of disturbing you think there is a "best way"(for everyone?) and you know it, this is how like 50% of the human emotional spectrum has become medicalized. Pretty arrogant and deluded statement to make. Just because it worked for you doesn't mean it is the best way.
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Really??  :) I'm not sure if you're serious.
Did I sound arrogant and deluded? Of course everything written on this forum is 'some dude on the internet advice', I'm just saying TO ME is the best way to treat certain problems. I'm born with it and the only way for me to get through and living a normal life is ALSO being on SSRI, like (and I know is a stretched comparison) people with diabetes need insuline shots. You're trying to give to your body (brain in this case) normal levels of an element.
Would it be better not to take them? Sure! Is it worse than watching the ceiling every night and not getting out of bed in the mornings? Hell no.
There are some different degrees of depression of course, but our carioca friend 20matar here told, and correct me if I'm wrong, that has had it and also family members have it (which increases the possibility of developing it).
It's a very important topic for me and the only real point I'm trying to make it's that looking for professional help is fundamental, and if you don't there's a chance you're falling back into it harder.
It also doesn't help that I think in one language and type in another one, but the last thing I'm trying to do here is being rude or seem like I'm dropping dogmas.

Edit: Also quoting Camus or any other writer doesn't seem a very appropriate way to theorise the problem.
It was the definite/objective nature of your tone that put me off, things like "the best way" and advice like "get on some SSRI", but with the caveat of "to me it's the best", I can't really object. I know you're just being helpful, and I respect your position on the matter.

edit:but... again your objective language in the phrase, "looking for professional help is fundamental" throws me off, fundamental to what? to you? ok, to everyone experiencing what you perceive to be a similar situation as yours, as conveyed by symbols that indicate certain vocal noises?
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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #18218 on: May 14, 2017, 07:51:58 AM »
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I feel you Tobey, but telling someone to "get on some SSRI" just from reading a SLAP post is pretty fucked up... everyone ponders suicide at some point. Camus said "deciding whether or not life is worth living is to answer the fundamental question in philosophy".. Everyone needs to decide for themselves whether awesome parts of life make the shitty parts worthwhile, and I don't think thinking about that means you should be on medication .
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I was even talking about him, just in general of how people who never experienced a mental illness and they think they know everything but you just end up looking like a fucking idiot. Also, you really don't even know what a SSRI is if you think its like a dreadful thing to be on. Shit isn't like Xanax or kpins. It literally doesn't even do anything to you until about a month of taking them

Agreed. The big problem with SSRI's is that there are far too many of them. When I got prescribed citalopram (Celexa, Cipramil) by my local doctor, I almost fucking killed myself, the side effects me me about four times worse. Hell, I'd rather have nothing at all than that garbare. The nightmares got to a point where I did not want to go to sleep. The shakes got way harder. Drinking on those things gave me some hallucinations

A year or so later when I got into rehab (yes, I was using at the time of consumption) the specialist doctor told me that those things are far to gnarly to prescribe at random. He switched them to Prozac and the difference was insane. But the fucking citalopram could not be droped immediately, the risks were too big of me doing something drastic. They had to slowly cut my dose, and oh, boy! To this day I cannot decide if getting on or off that shit was the most brutal.

Anyway, please proceed with extreme caution when getting on SSRI, as I said; there are TONS of them, and they do not work the same way. Today, I don't use anything and yes, it is pretty bad at most times, but I still prefer it this way.

I wish you all guys good luck, mental problems are no joke.

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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #18219 on: May 14, 2017, 08:24:00 AM »
Kook me all you want. If you take a ssri and it doesn't work that day... but in a few weeks it will work....

I think that's straight bullshit. Never heard of a drug that takes 2 weeks to take effect.

Either way good luck to my mentally handicapped bros.

Like my old K-pin and gabapentin dock, he said you got to take it for 2 weeks for it to take effect. BS nigga I was high as fuck as soon as left the pharmacy.

Maybe try phenibut, not the 1-2 gram doses kids are taking trying to mimic a benzo high, but 250mg to 750mg. Theres a lot more legal stuff that works better than doctors meds, cheaper too. Look into it.

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« Reply #18220 on: May 14, 2017, 10:18:23 AM »
Kook me all you want. If you take a ssri and it doesn't work that day... but in a few weeks it will work....

I think that's straight bullshit. Never heard of a drug that takes 2 weeks to take effect.

Either way good luck to my mentally handicapped bros.

Like my old K-pin and gabapentin dock, he said you got to take it for 2 weeks for it to take effect. BS nigga I was high as fuck as soon as left the pharmacy.

Maybe try phenibut, not the 1-2 gram doses kids are taking trying to mimic a benzo high, but 250mg to 750mg. Theres a lot more legal stuff that works better than doctors meds, cheaper too. Look into it.
Fixing your brain chemistry is not the same as taking allergy medication or pain killers.

You were probably prescribed shit you didn't actually need, if you felt extremely fucked up.

I wouldn't recommend taking neurotransmitter-changing drugs without a prescription.

If it's clinical depression, SSRIs are the most promising, but you should get them from a legitimate physician. I was prescribed Prozac but never did it because I had a friend that had really bad problems, after his therapist stopped prescribing some other SSRI. He had extremely bad mood swings and got even more depressed than he was when he started. We also knew an aquaintance that died from overdosing on some sort of SSRI. That isn't a common thing and I'm not trying to sway anyone away from them. That was just my reasoning for not wanting to do them, because I could see myself taking the whole bottle, after having a shitty day. They tend to work for most people. Just make sure to use them as directed by your physician and pharmacist, if you ever get any.

Eating well, getting physical activity and having sex (or some sort of intimacy) help, if it's from lonliness or a hormonal imbalance.

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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #18221 on: May 14, 2017, 10:35:48 AM »
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Kook me all you want. If you take a ssri and it doesn't work that day... but in a few weeks it will work....

I think that's straight bullshit. Never heard of a drug that takes 2 weeks to take effect.

Either way good luck to my mentally handicapped bros.

Like my old K-pin and gabapentin dock, he said you got to take it for 2 weeks for it to take effect. BS nigga I was high as fuck as soon as left the pharmacy.

Maybe try phenibut, not the 1-2 gram doses kids are taking trying to mimic a benzo high, but 250mg to 750mg. Theres a lot more legal stuff that works better than doctors meds, cheaper too. Look into it.
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Fixing your brain chemistry is not the same as taking allergy medication or pain killers.

You were probably prescribed shit you didn't actually need, if you felt extremely fucked up.

I wouldn't recommend taking neurotransmitter-changing drugs without a prescription.

If it's clinical depression, SSRIs are the most promising, but you should get them from a legitimate physician. I was prescribed Prozac but never did it because I had a friend that had really bad problems, after his therapist stopped prescribing some other SSRI. He had extremely bad mood swings and got even more depressed than he was when he started. We also knew an aquaintance that died from overdosing on some sort of SSRI. That isn't a common thing and I'm not trying to sway anyone away from them. That was just my reasoning for not wanting to do them, because I could see myself taking the whole bottle, after having a shitty day. They tend to work for most people. Just make sure to use them as directed by your physician and pharmacist, if you ever get any.

Eating well, getting physical activity and having sex (or some sort of intimacy) help, if it's from lonliness or a hormonal imbalance.
yeah, I got the kpins and gabapentin solely to get fucked up. But whenever you tell you doctor your symptoms, they go in a back room and google up the DSM and prescribe accordingling. Its not like the docs have you full best interest at heart, theyre just doing what their told and have heard. Nothing against doctors or ssris. But anything your doctor can tell you you can look up on google and find a alternative.

FYI doctors gave me every ssri under the sun, aint shit work. Not to take away from the people that it does though. But theres so much information online that a doctor cannot possible know it all. They just go by the book.

Seriously look into phenibut, low dose though. The horror stories you hear about it are people taking grams on grams throught the day, of course that's gonna cause withdrawal. Theres loads of others too, like. Don't blindly take whatever pill your doctor gives you.. do your own research.

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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #18222 on: May 14, 2017, 10:44:36 AM »
Also phenibut is not a painkiller of allergy med. It works with GABA, the stuff that deals with level mood and freaking out and such. There are much more risky ones, but I suggest trying that first.

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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #18223 on: May 14, 2017, 11:08:41 AM »
I just want Adderall... had the lucky chance to try desoxyn.... YEEEAAH BOOOIII

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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #18224 on: May 14, 2017, 12:10:37 PM »
Yeah, amphetamines will do that. Thankfully you have a whole internet of meds to choose from delivered right to your door. Not just drugs, legitimate medicines.

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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #18225 on: May 14, 2017, 01:32:09 PM »
im not stoked on the fact ive been constantly broke and struggling since moving to Vancouver almost 3 years ago.


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« Reply #18226 on: May 14, 2017, 02:08:18 PM »
im not stoked on the fact ive been constantly broke and struggling since moving to Vancouver almost 3 years ago.
Foreign money made it near impossible for Canadians to live in Canadian cities. It's not like Van is anywhere close to London or NYC on a business or cultural scale.

You're not alone, everyone I know that moved out there couldn't get much going.

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« Reply #18227 on: May 14, 2017, 05:21:08 PM »
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im not stoked on the fact ive been constantly broke and struggling since moving to Vancouver almost 3 years ago.
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Foreign money made it near impossible for Canadians to live in Canadian cities. It's not like Van is anywhere close to London or NYC on a business or cultural scale.

You're not alone, everyone I know that moved out there couldn't get much going.

Im not Canadian haha, I know i can go home whenever i choose, ideally i would like to just save enough to do a bit more travelling while im here and close to the states to travel there too, its just harder to save money for sure.


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« Reply #18228 on: May 14, 2017, 07:13:12 PM »
My neighbor pointed out that someone stole his hammock. Then, we looked at the area where mine used to be, and it was gone as well. It was probably some drunk, frat kid(s). It's fucked that they're getting actual jobs, but they're still immature pieces of shit.

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« Reply #18229 on: May 14, 2017, 08:21:56 PM »
Finally getting logged back into Slap after a few weeks,  AND going back to work tomorrow.  Sorry in advance for overposting  in the morning

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« Reply #18230 on: May 16, 2017, 07:05:26 PM »

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« Reply #18232 on: May 17, 2017, 05:18:24 AM »
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Thanks. I thought there was more shit that Heath said, but that was like 7-8 years ago. I still love how he got some random guy to claim his TWS award.

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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #18233 on: May 17, 2017, 02:06:48 PM »
With that whole Avril Lavigne conspiracy people are posting her old songs on social media and I just realized I recognized/know way too many of her old songs

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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #18234 on: May 17, 2017, 02:12:37 PM »
Someone in my crib stole 50 bucks from me knowing damn well im going to be living my own

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« Reply #18235 on: May 17, 2017, 03:03:50 PM »
With that whole Avril Lavigne conspiracy people are posting her old songs on social media and I just realized I recognized/know way too many of her old songs

All those conspiracys are so crazy hahah but im also guilty of knowing too many of her songs


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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #18236 on: May 18, 2017, 06:07:07 AM »
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With that whole Avril Lavigne conspiracy people are posting her old songs on social media and I just realized I recognized/know way too many of her old songs
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All those conspiracys are so crazy hahah but im also guilty of knowing too many of her songs


whats the conspiracy theory? im not trying to have avril lavigne in my search history.

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« Reply #18237 on: May 18, 2017, 07:19:19 AM »
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With that whole Avril Lavigne conspiracy people are posting her old songs on social media and I just realized I recognized/know way too many of her old songs
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All those conspiracys are so crazy hahah but im also guilty of knowing too many of her songs
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whats the conspiracy theory? im not trying to have avril lavigne in my search history.

That she was dead and replaced by a lookalike. In the best Paul McCartney style.

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« Reply #18238 on: May 18, 2017, 09:43:03 AM »
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With that whole Avril Lavigne conspiracy people are posting her old songs on social media and I just realized I recognized/know way too many of her old songs
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All those conspiracys are so crazy hahah but im also guilty of knowing too many of her songs
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whats the conspiracy theory? im not trying to have avril lavigne in my search history.
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That she was dead and replaced by a lookalike. In the best Paul McCartney style.

Why would anyone want to replace her?

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« Reply #18239 on: May 18, 2017, 12:53:37 PM »
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With that whole Avril Lavigne conspiracy people are posting her old songs on social media and I just realized I recognized/know way too many of her old songs
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All those conspiracys are so crazy hahah but im also guilty of knowing too many of her songs
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whats the conspiracy theory? im not trying to have avril lavigne in my search history.
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That she was dead and replaced by a lookalike. In the best Paul McCartney style.
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Why would anyone want to replace her?

that a good question but i cant get past the fact that somehow there are enough people that still care about avril to start that rumor in the first place.