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« Reply #150 on: October 13, 2009, 03:36:53 PM »


Currently reading this.

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« Reply #151 on: October 13, 2009, 04:02:24 PM »


have any of you read this book? its one of my favorites, such a good read. the first half is pretty slow, but once it gets going its incredible. i would be psyched to hear someone elses opinion about it.

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« Reply #152 on: October 13, 2009, 04:10:59 PM »

Got this a few weeks ago, but haven't had as much time to read as I'd hoped.

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« Reply #153 on: October 13, 2009, 07:12:36 PM »
Just finished this:





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« Reply #154 on: October 13, 2009, 08:42:48 PM »
I didn't go through this whole thread yet, but here's a few I read this summer that I would recommend



Just finished The Call of Cthulhu by Lovecraft.  I wanna read more.  Any recommendations on what to read next??

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« Reply #155 on: October 13, 2009, 08:59:53 PM »
These aren't novels, but I'm taking a class in human spirituality, and so far the book list has been eye-opening:






Plus Natural History of Religion by David Hume.

If you have any interest in what the fuck we are doing here, read these.

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« Reply #156 on: October 15, 2009, 09:58:36 PM »
The only way off the internet is to print it out.

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« Reply #157 on: October 16, 2009, 05:00:00 AM »

Got this a few weeks ago, but haven't had as much time to read as I'd hoped.

I've been wanting to read this as well you should lemme know how it is once you're finished. If you haven't already I highly recommend Brave New World and Brave New World Revisited. That's the system we're being herded into on a global scale, totalitarian socialism, humans born from artificially inseminated plastic bags only to serve a specific purpose in society, etc. Interestingly 33rd degree Mason Albert Mackey in his encyclopedia of Freemasonry says that , "Each of the pagan gods had, in addition to the public and open, a hidden worship paid to him to which none were admitted but those who had been carefully selected by preparatory ceremonies called initiation. This worship was always termed the Mysteries," I don't know if you study comparative religions at all but this is what Freemasonry is to Christianity. The ritual taht goes on in every meeting of every Masonic lodge is a direct form of sun worship with the Grandmaster, The Senior Warden, and the Junior Warden standing in the East, West, and South (respectively) and moving around the lodge i this fashion three times for the purpose of following the sun. Likewise, the story of Jesus' birth, death, and resurrection is an allegory for annual movements of the sun during the winter solstice. Hence God's "son" the "light of the world" our "risen savior"laying dead for three days and then rising again. And in Brave New World the few remaining native peoples living on the savage reservation partake in a religious ceremony during which the sun dies on the cross. Aldous Huxley's brother Julien Huxley was the head of our government's eugenics department during the early 1900's and was responsible for supplying Hitler with a  generous amount of the eugenics technology that he used to forcibly sterilize and euthanize jews during the holocaust. The swastika is also a symbol for the sun. Coincidence? I think not. 
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« Reply #158 on: October 16, 2009, 05:20:31 AM »
For anyone interested in delving deeper into the foundations of our his-story and the world. Beware, however, downloading or owning any of these could very likely get you put on an "enemy combatant" list and if you push it too far you can be secretly imprisoned for three years with no contact from your lawyer or family, and in that time they are allowed to torture and execute you without a trial or due process of any sort...

The Ghost in the Machine ~Arthur Koestler
The Next Million Years ~Charles Galton Darwin
The Grand Chess Board ~Zbigniew Brzezinski
What Dare I Think ~Julian Huxley
Morals and Dogma ~Albert Pike
Welcome to the Monkey House ~Kurt Vonnegut
The Prince ~Niccolò Machiavelli
Occult Theocracy ~Lady Queensborough
The Secret Teachings of All Ages ~Manly P. Hall
The New Atlantis ~Francis Bacon
Francis Bacon Essays and NA ~Walter J. Black Inc.
Utilitarizam ~John Stuart Mill
Brave New World (and Revisited) ~Aldous Huxley
1984 ~George Orwell
The Republic ~Plato (A MUST READ)
The Legacy of Ashes:History of the CIA ~Tim Weiner
The Anglo American Establishment ~Carrol Quigley
Tragedy & Hope: A History of the World in Our Time ~Carrol Quigley
America's Secret Establishment ~Anthony Sutton
Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler ~Anthony Sutton
National Suicide ~Anthony Sutton
The Best Enemy Money Can Buy ~Anthony Sutton
Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution ~Anthony Sutton
The Companion Bible ~Ethelbert W. Bullinger
The Ancient Mysteries ~Marvin W. Meyer
Cutting Through the Matrix Vol. 1,2, and 3 ~Alan Watt (www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com)
The Hidden History of the Human Race (Forbidden Archeology) ~Michael Cremo
Code of the Illuminati (Memoirs Illustrating the History of Jacobinism) ~Abbe Barruel
Letters on the Masonic Institution ~John Quincy Adams
The Open Conspiracy ~H.G. Wells
The New World Order ~H.g. Wells
The New World Order ~Adolf Hitler
Fire and Ice ~Edred Flowers
Bloodlines of the Illuminati ~Fritz Springmeier
Codex Magica ~Texe Marrs
Mackey's Encyclopedia of Freemasonry ~Albert Mackey
A New Encyclopaedia of Freemasonry ~Arthur Edward Waite
Lectures on Ancient Philosophy ~Manly P. Hall
The Man Who Would Be King ~Rudyard Kipling
Anthem ~Ayn Rand
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« Reply #159 on: October 16, 2009, 08:21:14 AM »
I don't think anyone on here has mentioned Freakonomics yet? Great book changes the way you look at everything. I think I read it in a week. Also SuperFreakonomics comes out on the 20th

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« Reply #160 on: October 16, 2009, 08:37:15 AM »
I don't think anyone on here has mentioned Freakonomics yet? Great book changes the way you look at everything. I think I read it in a week. Also SuperFreakonomics comes out on the 20th

what's it about?

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« Reply #161 on: October 16, 2009, 09:25:29 AM »
Basically looking at everyday things and breaking them down in a way an Economist would. Focusing only on the facts and numbers.

from Amazon

Some of his conclusions are less than earth-shattering. For example, African-American names (DeShawn, Latanya) don't influence African-American test performance. As a second example, Levitt compiled data regarding online dating websites and concluded that bald men and overweight women fared badly. Not rocket science.

However, Levitt livens up the book with some controversial discussions. He believes that the dramatic drop in crime in the 1990s can be traced to Roe v. Wade. He thinks that the children who would have committed crimes (due to being brought up by impoverished, teenage, single mothers) are simply not being born as often.

He also writes about the man who more or less singlehandedly contributed to the KKK's demise by infiltrating their group and leaking their secret passwords and rituals to the people behind the Superman comic book (Superman needed a new enemy).

Interestingly, he also discusses how overbearing parents don't contribute to a child's success. For example, having a lot of books in the house has a positive influence on children's test scores, but reading to a child a lot has no effect. Highly educated parents are also a plus, while limiting children's television time is irrelevant. Similarly, political candidates who have a lot of money to finance their campaigns are still out of luck if no one likes them.

In the chapter entitled "Why Drug Dealers Live With Their Mothers," Levitt explores the economics of drug dealing. An Indian, Harvard-affiliated scholar decided to get up close and personal with crack gangs and got some notebooks documenting their finances. Levitt concludes that drug dealers' empires are a lot like McDonald's or the publishing industry in Manhattan - only the people on the very top of the pyramid do well financially, while the burger flippers, editorial assistants, and low-level drug runners don't (indeed, some of them work for free, or in return for protection!)

The topics in Superfreakonomics which comes out on the 20th.
How is a street prostitute like a department-store Santa?
Why are doctors so bad at washing their hands?
How much good do car seats do?
What's the best way to catch a terrorist?
Did TV cause a rise in crime?
What do hurricanes, heart attacks, and highway deaths have in common?
Are people hard-wired for altruism or selfishness?
Can eating kangaroo save the planet?
Which adds more value: a pimp or a Realtor?
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« Reply #162 on: October 16, 2009, 09:29:19 AM »
i'm readin this

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« Reply #163 on: October 16, 2009, 09:39:17 AM »
Right now I'm reading Pride and Prejudice for a literature course i'm doing.

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« Reply #164 on: October 16, 2009, 09:41:02 AM »
Basically looking at everyday things and breaking them down in a way an Economist would. Focusing only on the facts and numbers.

from Amazon

Some of his conclusions are less than earth-shattering. For example, African-American names (DeShawn, Latanya) don't influence African-American test performance. As a second example, Levitt compiled data regarding online dating websites and concluded that bald men and overweight women fared badly. Not rocket science.

However, Levitt livens up the book with some controversial discussions. He believes that the dramatic drop in crime in the 1990s can be traced to Roe v. Wade. He thinks that the children who would have committed crimes (due to being brought up by impoverished, teenage, single mothers) are simply not being born as often.

He also writes about the man who more or less singlehandedly contributed to the KKK's demise by infiltrating their group and leaking their secret passwords and rituals to the people behind the Superman comic book (Superman needed a new enemy).

Interestingly, he also discusses how overbearing parents don't contribute to a child's success. For example, having a lot of books in the house has a positive influence on children's test scores, but reading to a child a lot has no effect. Highly educated parents are also a plus, while limiting children's television time is irrelevant. Similarly, political candidates who have a lot of money to finance their campaigns are still out of luck if no one likes them.

In the chapter entitled "Why Drug Dealers Live With Their Mothers," Levitt explores the economics of drug dealing. An Indian, Harvard-affiliated scholar decided to get up close and personal with crack gangs and got some notebooks documenting their finances. Levitt concludes that drug dealers' empires are a lot like McDonald's or the publishing industry in Manhattan - only the people on the very top of the pyramid do well financially, while the burger flippers, editorial assistants, and low-level drug runners don't (indeed, some of them work for free, or in return for protection!)

The topics in Superfreakonomics which comes out on the 20th.
How is a street prostitute like a department-store Santa?
Why are doctors so bad at washing their hands?
How much good do car seats do?
What's the best way to catch a terrorist?
Did TV cause a rise in crime?
What do hurricanes, heart attacks, and highway deaths have in common?
Are people hard-wired for altruism or selfishness?
Can eating kangaroo save the planet?
Which adds more value: a pimp or a Realtor?


interesting thanks for the tip I'm gonna have to check this one out.

"He thinks that the children who would have committed crimes (due to being brought up by impoverished, teenage, single mothers) are simply not being born as often." I am more than willing to bet that's true. Thanks to planned parenthood there is now one black child aborted for every black child born. Margaret Sanger specifically wrote in her own publications that her reason for inventing birth control was to exterminate the black race. I shit you not.

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« Reply #165 on: October 16, 2009, 10:52:19 AM »
Basically looking at everyday things and breaking them down in a way an Economist would. Focusing only on the facts and numbers.

from Amazon

Some of his conclusions are less than earth-shattering. For example, African-American names (DeShawn, Latanya) don't influence African-American test performance. As a second example, Levitt compiled data regarding online dating websites and concluded that bald men and overweight women fared badly. Not rocket science.

However, Levitt livens up the book with some controversial discussions. He believes that the dramatic drop in crime in the 1990s can be traced to Roe v. Wade. He thinks that the children who would have committed crimes (due to being brought up by impoverished, teenage, single mothers) are simply not being born as often.

He also writes about the man who more or less singlehandedly contributed to the KKK's demise by infiltrating their group and leaking their secret passwords and rituals to the people behind the Superman comic book (Superman needed a new enemy).

Interestingly, he also discusses how overbearing parents don't contribute to a child's success. For example, having a lot of books in the house has a positive influence on children's test scores, but reading to a child a lot has no effect. Highly educated parents are also a plus, while limiting children's television time is irrelevant. Similarly, political candidates who have a lot of money to finance their campaigns are still out of luck if no one likes them.

In the chapter entitled "Why Drug Dealers Live With Their Mothers," Levitt explores the economics of drug dealing. An Indian, Harvard-affiliated scholar decided to get up close and personal with crack gangs and got some notebooks documenting their finances. Levitt concludes that drug dealers' empires are a lot like McDonald's or the publishing industry in Manhattan - only the people on the very top of the pyramid do well financially, while the burger flippers, editorial assistants, and low-level drug runners don't (indeed, some of them work for free, or in return for protection!)

The topics in Superfreakonomics which comes out on the 20th.
How is a street prostitute like a department-store Santa?
Why are doctors so bad at washing their hands?
How much good do car seats do?
What's the best way to catch a terrorist?
Did TV cause a rise in crime?
What do hurricanes, heart attacks, and highway deaths have in common?
Are people hard-wired for altruism or selfishness?
Can eating kangaroo save the planet?
Which adds more value: a pimp or a Realtor?


interesting thanks for the tip I'm gonna have to check this one out.

"He thinks that the children who would have committed crimes (due to being brought up by impoverished, teenage, single mothers) are simply not being born as often." I am more than willing to bet that's true. Thanks to planned parenthood there is now one black child aborted for every black child born. Margaret Sanger specifically wrote in her own publications that her reason for inventing birth control was to exterminate the black race. I shit you not.

sanger didn't invent birth control. she started planned parenthood and brought the diaphragm to the states. russell marker invented the pill, one of the first "widespread" birth control products. i can't really make a comment on her eugenic policies, but she didn't want to exterminate blacks. and connected to your list of books that could get me placed in a secret prison, i own several of those and very few of them have anything absurdly anti-government or delves too much into anything conspiracy related. especially "welcome to the monkey house." and the republic, while somewhat eye-opening, is nowhere near a "must read." plato and his ideal/absolutism is one of the worst philosophies ever.

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« Reply #166 on: October 16, 2009, 11:04:18 AM »
Beware, however, downloading or owning any of these could very likely get you put on an "enemy combatant" list and if you push it too far you can be secretly imprisoned for three years with no contact from your lawyer or family, and in that time they are allowed to torture and execute you without a trial or due process of any sort...

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lol, looks lyke every1 i no gonna go to area 51. hopefully dose aliens smoke mad herb
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« Reply #168 on: October 16, 2009, 11:28:19 AM »
Basically looking at everyday things and breaking them down in a way an Economist would. Focusing only on the facts and numbers.

from Amazon

Some of his conclusions are less than earth-shattering. For example, African-American names (DeShawn, Latanya) don't influence African-American test performance. As a second example, Levitt compiled data regarding online dating websites and concluded that bald men and overweight women fared badly. Not rocket science.

However, Levitt livens up the book with some controversial discussions. He believes that the dramatic drop in crime in the 1990s can be traced to Roe v. Wade. He thinks that the children who would have committed crimes (due to being brought up by impoverished, teenage, single mothers) are simply not being born as often.

He also writes about the man who more or less singlehandedly contributed to the KKK's demise by infiltrating their group and leaking their secret passwords and rituals to the people behind the Superman comic book (Superman needed a new enemy).

Interestingly, he also discusses how overbearing parents don't contribute to a child's success. For example, having a lot of books in the house has a positive influence on children's test scores, but reading to a child a lot has no effect. Highly educated parents are also a plus, while limiting children's television time is irrelevant. Similarly, political candidates who have a lot of money to finance their campaigns are still out of luck if no one likes them.

In the chapter entitled "Why Drug Dealers Live With Their Mothers," Levitt explores the economics of drug dealing. An Indian, Harvard-affiliated scholar decided to get up close and personal with crack gangs and got some notebooks documenting their finances. Levitt concludes that drug dealers' empires are a lot like McDonald's or the publishing industry in Manhattan - only the people on the very top of the pyramid do well financially, while the burger flippers, editorial assistants, and low-level drug runners don't (indeed, some of them work for free, or in return for protection!)

The topics in Superfreakonomics which comes out on the 20th.
How is a street prostitute like a department-store Santa?
Why are doctors so bad at washing their hands?
How much good do car seats do?
What's the best way to catch a terrorist?
Did TV cause a rise in crime?
What do hurricanes, heart attacks, and highway deaths have in common?
Are people hard-wired for altruism or selfishness?
Can eating kangaroo save the planet?
Which adds more value: a pimp or a Realtor?


interesting thanks for the tip I'm gonna have to check this one out.

"He thinks that the children who would have committed crimes (due to being brought up by impoverished, teenage, single mothers) are simply not being born as often." I am more than willing to bet that's true. Thanks to planned parenthood there is now one black child aborted for every black child born. Margaret Sanger specifically wrote in her own publications that her reason for inventing birth control was to exterminate the black race. I shit you not.

sanger didn't invent birth control. she started planned parenthood and brought the diaphragm to the states. russell marker invented the pill, one of the first "widespread" birth control products. i can't really make a comment on her eugenic policies, but she didn't want to exterminate blacks. and connected to your list of books that could get me placed in a secret prison, i own several of those and very few of them have anything absurdly anti-government or delves too much into anything conspiracy related. especially "welcome to the monkey house." and the republic, while somewhat eye-opening, is nowhere near a "must read." plato and his ideal/absolutism is one of the worst philosophies ever.

That's because those books have less to do with whatever governing state is in power at any given time, but rather the religion that mandates the existence of such a state, "And so the man returns into the country of the lotus eaters, and takes up his dwelling there, in the face of all men; and if any help be sent to the oligarchical part of him, the aforesaid vain conceits shut the gate of the kings fastness; and they will neither allow the embassy itself to enter, nor if private advisers offer the fatherly counsel of the aged will they listen to them or receive them. There is a battle and they gain the day, and then modesty, which they call silliness, is ignominiously thrust into exile by them, and temperance, which they nick-name unmanliness, is trampled in the mire and cast forth; they persuade men that moderation and orderly expenditure are vulgarity and meanness, and so, by the help of a rabble of evil appetites, they drive them beyond the border. Yes, with a will. ANd when they have swept clean the soul of him who is now in their power and who is being initiated by them in great mysteries, the next thing is to bring back to their house insolence and anarchy and impudence in bright array, having garlands on their heads and a great company with them, hymning their praises and calling them by sweet names," (book 8) understanding and espousing the machinations of that religion is what's gonna get you on somebody's shit list cause this is the largest religion in the world and always has been, and all departments of all governing states throughout the entire world use variations of this religion's symbols as their emblems. Most of us just aren't aware of that due to the fact that it's initiates are under no circumstances supposed to admit that it is indeed a religion. They continually insist that it's "just a fraternity." As for Sanger you're right that she herself did not invent birth control and I perhaps should have phrased that better but she did expose the fact that birth control had been invented for the purpose of eugenics (weeding out inferior races) and she specifically fingered the black race claiming that they were human weeds.


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« Reply #169 on: October 16, 2009, 11:35:53 AM »
well, this is not the place to get into this debate nor do i really want to. but i do disagree that birth control was invented for eugenic purposes. just because one of its largest supporters was a eugenist, doesn't mean the invention itself existed for that reason.

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« Reply #170 on: October 16, 2009, 11:40:42 AM »
well, this is not the place to get into this debate nor do i really want to. but i do disagree that birth control was invented for eugenic purposes. just because one of its largest supporters was a eugenist, doesn't mean the invention itself existed for that reason.

what other purpose could it possibly serve, other than to emotionally and psychologically castrate the natural biological function of sex intended by our genetic makeup and all the responsibilities and emotions that are supposed to come with it? This war on the minds of women has been underway for a long time and I don't think anyone can deny that we're seeing the obvious effects in the form of most "liberated" (liberated from what?) women not having completely functional minds that can comprehend anything deeper than the most surface level hollow social pleasantry and only being capable of doublethink in a majority of instances. Even Gloria Steinem was shilling for the CIA


 lol I just noticed it turned "(book 8 ) into a smiley face
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« Reply #171 on: October 16, 2009, 12:13:40 PM »
About to start: The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood. I heard an interview with her on NPR the other night and now I am curious to read her stuff.
finished that a couple weeks ago, its prety good like a theocratic 1984 from a woman's perspective

also just read the wayward bus and the moon is down by Steinbeck, he's probably my favorite author right now

wampeters foma and grandfalloons (opinions) is my favorite vonnegut book  just a collection of essays and lectures mostly about his opinions on the state of the world

started The Shock Doctrine- Naomi Klein, so far its been pretty interesting, about the crimes of Milton Friendman, the chicago school of economics and laissez-faire economics

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i dont think i could ever read a book about life. i have done enough mushrooms to know what over thinking your life is.
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« Reply #173 on: October 16, 2009, 02:05:41 PM »
this thread's a goldmine, all i have to add is this:



revisiting it again and felt it worthy.

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« Reply #174 on: October 16, 2009, 02:50:23 PM »
well, this is not the place to get into this debate nor do i really want to. but i do disagree that birth control was invented for eugenic purposes. just because one of its largest supporters was a eugenist, doesn't mean the invention itself existed for that reason.

yah think about it for a minute. if we didn't have birth control we would have even more oyrish and italians running around. they are white folk with big families. maybe we could have white washed the world without birth control

besides, i think the main point of that chapter of freakanomics was that legalizing abortions in the early 70's resulted in less crime during 90's
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« Reply #175 on: October 16, 2009, 03:25:59 PM »
well, this is not the place to get into this debate nor do i really want to. but i do disagree that birth control was invented for eugenic purposes. just because one of its largest supporters was a eugenist, doesn't mean the invention itself existed for that reason.

yah think about it for a minute. if we didn't have birth control we would have even more oyrish and italians running around. they are white folk with big families. maybe we could have white washed the world without birth control

besides, i think the main point of that chapter of freakanomics was that legalizing abortions in the early 70's resulted in less crime during 90's

that chapter isn't really how we got onto the conversation of birth control though.

this thread's a goldmine, all i have to add is this:



revisiting it again and felt it worthy.

i just finished reading selections of this for a class and remembered how awesome it is. have you ever read "purgatorio" and "paradiso?" you will catch a lot more from "inferno" if you read those two.

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« Reply #177 on: October 16, 2009, 08:50:08 PM »
well, this is not the place to get into this debate nor do i really want to. but i do disagree that birth control was invented for eugenic purposes. just because one of its largest supporters was a eugenist, doesn't mean the invention itself existed for that reason.

yah think about it for a minute. if we didn't have birth control we would have even more oyrish and italians running around. they are white folk with big families. maybe we could have white washed the world without birth control

besides, i think the main point of that chapter of freakanomics was that legalizing abortions in the early 70's resulted in less crime during 90's

Ironically that's exactly what Darwin said in Descent of Man: That the Irish were all evolutionary dead ends and that if the preferred breeding stock mixed with the common stock that history would, "March backwards into the swirling mists of the dawnless past."

Why do people revere as some great scientific leader a man who only ever earned a degree in THEOLOGY, anyway? Maybe it's because they've been indoctrinated into a religious belief without even realizing it.

And, as for reducing crime, maybe if we hadn't been herded into artificial civilizations (the "beehive" as Plato called it, and was consequently criticized by the brothers of his particular order of the Orphic mystery cults for revealing the true meaning of one of their symbols) via the dialectic process and then given a grotesque and barbaric mass culture we wouldn't be in this mess to begin with. Last i checked the bushmen haev been the same for millenia and they don't kill, steal, or rape each other.
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Re: books to read
« Reply #178 on: October 16, 2009, 08:59:54 PM »


AHHHHHHHahahahaha you're funny. For a more accurate appraisal you should all read Letters on The Masonic Institution by JOHN QUINCY ADAMS, who was spurred to write about the true nature of this religious cult of socialism and eugenics after they murdered his good friend William Morgen for defecting from the lodge and publishing an expose on the first three degrees. So I atke it you're the son of a Freemason? Or an initiate yourself??? That's the only possible reason I can conceive of why you would make such feeble attempt to divert the discourse by directing us to this propaganda. Have you progressed beyond the blue lodge yet?

Inanimate Object

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Re: books to read
« Reply #179 on: October 16, 2009, 09:02:01 PM »
well, this is not the place to get into this debate nor do i really want to. but i do disagree that birth control was invented for eugenic purposes. just because one of its largest supporters was a eugenist, doesn't mean the invention itself existed for that reason.

yah think about it for a minute. if we didn't have birth control we would have even more oyrish and italians running around. they are white folk with big families. maybe we could have white washed the world without birth control

besides, i think the main point of that chapter of freakanomics was that legalizing abortions in the early 70's resulted in less crime during 90's

Ironically that's exactly what Darwin said in Descent of Man: That the Irish were all evolutionary dead ends and that if the preferred breeding stock mixed with the common stock that history would, "March backwards into the swirling mists of the dawnless past."

Why do people revere as some great scientific leader a man who only ever earned a degree in THEOLOGY, anyway? Maybe it's because they've been indoctrinated into a religious belief without even realizing it.

And, as for reducing crime, maybe if we hadn't been herded into artificial civilizations (the "beehive" as Plato called it, and was consequently criticized by the brothers of his particular order of the Orphic mystery cults for revealing the true meaning of one of their symbols) via the dialectic process and then given a grotesque and barbaric mass culture we wouldn't be in this mess to begin with. Last i checked the bushmen haev been the same for millenia and they don't kill, steal, or rape each other.