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Re: books to read
« Reply #1620 on: February 07, 2013, 07:34:40 AM »
Kind of a stretch, but has anyone here thought about writing a book, or has already written one?

I write short stories on the reg.  Some come out pretty good, some terrible.  Looking for ways to possibly seek publication.  Or at least attempt and get shut down.  Either way, writing will always be a passion.  So much fun. 

Tried to think of a novel concept, but it is difficult.  Try it.  Or try writing stories first.  They seem to be easier to grasp IMO.

Also, if anyone is interested in reading any of them, I can post them on scribd and link them here.  Most of them are dark, some funny, some interesting.  Yeah, just saying.  Try writing though bro.


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« Reply #1621 on: February 07, 2013, 08:04:13 AM »
I actually just finished a 113,000 word manuscript and am starting the process of looking for representation. I took classes at the UCLA Writer's Program(extension, you don't have to get accepted to the university, go full time, etc.) and it was very helpful. I'm meeting up with my teacher who is a published novelist in the next week or two to talk about agents. Starting to get super nervous.

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« Reply #1622 on: February 07, 2013, 08:16:24 AM »
I actually just finished a 113,000 word manuscript and am starting the process of looking for representation. I took classes at the UCLA Writer's Program(extension, you don't have to get accepted to the university, go full time, etc.) and it was very helpful. I'm meeting up with my teacher who is a published novelist in the next week or two to talk about agents. Starting to get super nervous.

hell yes, keep us updated and good luck.

i just added two new novels to my book collection, i've heard good things about this kosinski one and i'm psyched

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« Reply #1623 on: February 07, 2013, 10:25:37 AM »
I actually just finished a 113,000 word manuscript and am starting the process of looking for representation. I took classes at the UCLA Writer's Program(extension, you don't have to get accepted to the university, go full time, etc.) and it was very helpful. I'm meeting up with my teacher who is a published novelist in the next week or two to talk about agents. Starting to get super nervous.

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« Reply #1624 on: February 07, 2013, 03:21:16 PM »
I actually just finished a 113,000 word manuscript and am starting the process of looking for representation. I took classes at the UCLA Writer's Program(extension, you don't have to get accepted to the university, go full time, etc.) and it was very helpful. I'm meeting up with my teacher who is a published novelist in the next week or two to talk about agents. Starting to get super nervous.

at least you know someone, that's always an advantage. I don't know anyone in publishing (or even a writer at that). I queried around 160 literary agents, got 50 rejection letters/emails and only 2 green lights (who rejected it after "reading" it)
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« Reply #1625 on: February 08, 2013, 04:42:58 PM »
I actually just finished a 113,000 word manuscript and am starting the process of looking for representation. I took classes at the UCLA Writer's Program(extension, you don't have to get accepted to the university, go full time, etc.) and it was very helpful. I'm meeting up with my teacher who is a published novelist in the next week or two to talk about agents. Starting to get super nervous.

at least you know someone, that's always an advantage. I don't know anyone in publishing (or even a writer at that). I queried around 160 literary agents, got 50 rejection letters/emails and only 2 green lights (who rejected it after "reading" it)

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« Reply #1626 on: February 08, 2013, 07:36:21 PM »

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« Reply #1627 on: February 09, 2013, 03:18:51 PM »
I actually just finished a 113,000 word manuscript and am starting the process of looking for representation. I took classes at the UCLA Writer's Program(extension, you don't have to get accepted to the university, go full time, etc.) and it was very helpful. I'm meeting up with my teacher who is a published novelist in the next week or two to talk about agents. Starting to get super nervous.

you ever think about applying to MFA programs? there are so many solid programs that offer full funding with teaching assistantships. Two to three years of getting paid to write with other writers.

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« Reply #1628 on: February 09, 2013, 06:38:00 PM »
I actually just finished a 113,000 word manuscript and am starting the process of looking for representation. I took classes at the UCLA Writer's Program(extension, you don't have to get accepted to the university, go full time, etc.) and it was very helpful. I'm meeting up with my teacher who is a published novelist in the next week or two to talk about agents. Starting to get super nervous.

you ever think about applying to MFA programs? there are so many solid programs that offer full funding with teaching assistantships. Two to three years of getting paid to write with other writers.

No, I was going to journalism school a few years ago and dropped out to focus on the novel, because of amongst other reasons my teachers always talking about how the industry was dying. Since thenI've been pretty obsessively focused on writing, and haven't thought much about school full-time. I only have like 15-20 units left and plan on finishing my bachelor's, especially if the book doesn't get published/doesn't sell well, and that does sound pretty awesome, especially fully funded. I really enjoyed the workshop classes at UCLA opposed to more traditional college classes. I'd love to do more of that, especially with people totally committed to their craft. I have a friend who went to the program at UC Riverside (I think). She was the editor of the Coachella Review and really enjoyed the experience. I'll start looking into that.Do you have your MFA?
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« Reply #1629 on: February 09, 2013, 06:43:58 PM »
I actually just finished a 113,000 word manuscript and am starting the process of looking for representation. I took classes at the UCLA Writer's Program(extension, you don't have to get accepted to the university, go full time, etc.) and it was very helpful. I'm meeting up with my teacher who is a published novelist in the next week or two to talk about agents. Starting to get super nervous.

at least you know someone, that's always an advantage. I don't know anyone in publishing (or even a writer at that). I queried around 160 literary agents, got 50 rejection letters/emails and only 2 green lights (who rejected it after "reading" it)

Yeah, I fear that experience. Are you working on anything right now? I don't know how long you've been writing, but I wrote probably thousands of pages of short stories, screenplays, beginnings of novels, etc. that I never submitted or got rejected before getting to the point now where I hope my writing's ready for print. Also have you taken classes or joined a writing group to have your stuff read by other writers?

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« Reply #1630 on: February 10, 2013, 09:55:06 AM »
I actually just finished a 113,000 word manuscript and am starting the process of looking for representation. I took classes at the UCLA Writer's Program(extension, you don't have to get accepted to the university, go full time, etc.) and it was very helpful. I'm meeting up with my teacher who is a published novelist in the next week or two to talk about agents. Starting to get super nervous.

you ever think about applying to MFA programs? there are so many solid programs that offer full funding with teaching assistantships. Two to three years of getting paid to write with other writers.

No, I was going to journalism school a few years ago and dropped out to focus on the novel, because of amongst other reasons my teachers always talking about how the industry was dying. Since thenI've been pretty obsessively focused on writing, and haven't thought much about school full-time. I only have like 15-20 units left and plan on finishing my bachelor's, especially if the book doesn't get published/doesn't sell well, and that does sound pretty awesome, especially fully funded. I really enjoyed the workshop classes at UCLA opposed to more traditional college classes. I'd love to do more of that, especially with people totally committed to their craft. I have a friend who went to the program at UC Riverside (I think). She was the editor of the Coachella Review and really enjoyed the experience. I'll start looking into that.Do you have your MFA?

Right on!

I do not have an MFA. This past summer I completed my BA and want to travel a bit before I head into grad school, but I'm always looking at programs. This is a great site- https://www.awpwriter.org/programs_conferences/guide_writing_programs.
I'm not sure if I want to get an MFA. I'm really more interested in teaching literature, but usually end up falling back on "creative" writing when it comes to doing any kind of writing. I do find it, lately, a greater challenge to write a solid essay, than to write a poem. 

Workshops can be awesome, especially if you've got a great teacher/leader that gets things going. I've been in workshops that totally lack, which means I've just got to write more. It's definitely frustrating. I've got a few buddies who I've been writing with, or talking about words with, for years, and it helps.

There was someone who posted on SLAP, some years back, who ended up in the NYU program. I don't recall who it was though.

Either way, good luck!!!




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« Reply #1631 on: February 15, 2013, 12:26:05 AM »
I actually just finished a 113,000 word manuscript and am starting the process of looking for representation. I took classes at the UCLA Writer's Program(extension, you don't have to get accepted to the university, go full time, etc.) and it was very helpful. I'm meeting up with my teacher who is a published novelist in the next week or two to talk about agents. Starting to get super nervous.

you ever think about applying to MFA programs? there are so many solid programs that offer full funding with teaching assistantships. Two to three years of getting paid to write with other writers.

No, I was going to journalism school a few years ago and dropped out to focus on the novel, because of amongst other reasons my teachers always talking about how the industry was dying. Since thenI've been pretty obsessively focused on writing, and haven't thought much about school full-time. I only have like 15-20 units left and plan on finishing my bachelor's, especially if the book doesn't get published/doesn't sell well, and that does sound pretty awesome, especially fully funded. I really enjoyed the workshop classes at UCLA opposed to more traditional college classes. I'd love to do more of that, especially with people totally committed to their craft. I have a friend who went to the program at UC Riverside (I think). She was the editor of the Coachella Review and really enjoyed the experience. I'll start looking into that.Do you have your MFA?

Right on!

I do not have an MFA. This past summer I completed my BA and want to travel a bit before I head into grad school, but I'm always looking at programs. This is a great site- https://www.awpwriter.org/programs_conferences/guide_writing_programs.
I'm not sure if I want to get an MFA. I'm really more interested in teaching literature, but usually end up falling back on "creative" writing when it comes to doing any kind of writing. I do find it, lately, a greater challenge to write a solid essay, than to write a poem.  

Workshops can be awesome, especially if you've got a great teacher/leader that gets things going. I've been in workshops that totally lack, which means I've just got to write more. It's definitely frustrating. I've got a few buddies who I've been writing with, or talking about words with, for years, and it helps.

There was someone who posted on SLAP, some years back, who ended up in the NYU program. I don't recall who it was though.

Either way, good luck!!!




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« Reply #1632 on: February 15, 2013, 10:02:46 AM »
I actually just finished a 113,000 word manuscript and am starting the process of looking for representation. I took classes at the UCLA Writer's Program(extension, you don't have to get accepted to the university, go full time, etc.) and it was very helpful. I'm meeting up with my teacher who is a published novelist in the next week or two to talk about agents. Starting to get super nervous.

you ever think about applying to MFA programs? there are so many solid programs that offer full funding with teaching assistantships. Two to three years of getting paid to write with other writers.

No, I was going to journalism school a few years ago and dropped out to focus on the novel, because of amongst other reasons my teachers always talking about how the industry was dying. Since thenI've been pretty obsessively focused on writing, and haven't thought much about school full-time. I only have like 15-20 units left and plan on finishing my bachelor's, especially if the book doesn't get published/doesn't sell well, and that does sound pretty awesome, especially fully funded. I really enjoyed the workshop classes at UCLA opposed to more traditional college classes. I'd love to do more of that, especially with people totally committed to their craft. I have a friend who went to the program at UC Riverside (I think). She was the editor of the Coachella Review and really enjoyed the experience. I'll start looking into that.Do you have your MFA?

Right on!

I do not have an MFA. This past summer I completed my BA and want to travel a bit before I head into grad school, but I'm always looking at programs. This is a great site- https://www.awpwriter.org/programs_conferences/guide_writing_programs.
I'm not sure if I want to get an MFA. I'm really more interested in teaching literature, but usually end up falling back on "creative" writing when it comes to doing any kind of writing. I do find it, lately, a greater challenge to write a solid essay, than to write a poem.  

Workshops can be awesome, especially if you've got a great teacher/leader that gets things going. I've been in workshops that totally lack, which means I've just got to write more. It's definitely frustrating. I've got a few buddies who I've been writing with, or talking about words with, for years, and it helps.

There was someone who posted on SLAP, some years back, who ended up in the NYU program. I don't recall who it was though.

Either way, good luck!!!




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« Reply #1633 on: February 15, 2013, 10:27:00 AM »
Wait--really?  That would be awesome.  I might be calling in a favor...

Finished Moment of Freedom and it was ok.  It got a little tedious after a while, so I'm taking a break before reading the other two parts of the trilogy (I also found out that they don't really need to be read in order, so that made it an easier decision).

I'm presenting at a sociology conference in the beginning of March, so I'm trying to read some more books from a prof. that is on my PhD adviser list. 



I read one of her other books as my first book of the year and it wasn't that good, so hopefully this one will be better.

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« Reply #1634 on: February 15, 2013, 10:27:22 AM »
I actually just finished a 113,000 word manuscript and am starting the process of looking for representation. I took classes at the UCLA Writer's Program(extension, you don't have to get accepted to the university, go full time, etc.) and it was very helpful. I'm meeting up with my teacher who is a published novelist in the next week or two to talk about agents. Starting to get super nervous.

you ever think about applying to MFA programs? there are so many solid programs that offer full funding with teaching assistantships. Two to three years of getting paid to write with other writers.

No, I was going to journalism school a few years ago and dropped out to focus on the novel, because of amongst other reasons my teachers always talking about how the industry was dying. Since thenI've been pretty obsessively focused on writing, and haven't thought much about school full-time. I only have like 15-20 units left and plan on finishing my bachelor's, especially if the book doesn't get published/doesn't sell well, and that does sound pretty awesome, especially fully funded. I really enjoyed the workshop classes at UCLA opposed to more traditional college classes. I'd love to do more of that, especially with people totally committed to their craft. I have a friend who went to the program at UC Riverside (I think). She was the editor of the Coachella Review and really enjoyed the experience. I'll start looking into that.Do you have your MFA?

Right on!

I do not have an MFA. This past summer I completed my BA and want to travel a bit before I head into grad school, but I'm always looking at programs. This is a great site- https://www.awpwriter.org/programs_conferences/guide_writing_programs.
I'm not sure if I want to get an MFA. I'm really more interested in teaching literature, but usually end up falling back on "creative" writing when it comes to doing any kind of writing. I do find it, lately, a greater challenge to write a solid essay, than to write a poem. �

Workshops can be awesome, especially if you've got a great teacher/leader that gets things going. I've been in workshops that totally lack, which means I've just got to write more. It's definitely frustrating. I've got a few buddies who I've been writing with, or talking about words with, for years, and it helps.

There was someone who posted on SLAP, some years back, who ended up in the NYU program. I don't recall who it was though.

Either way, good luck!!!




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« Reply #1635 on: February 15, 2013, 07:19:56 PM »
^no. though I do have a bachelors in modern literature...

I recommend this book. If you know anything about Oakland it's awesome. If you don't it's probably still awesome. Want to read the rest of the series.
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« Reply #1636 on: February 19, 2013, 10:48:21 AM »
released today full color throughout its awesome!

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Half-way through this tome. It's the 5th or 6th murakami book i've read in the last year. super dank metaphysical scifi shit.

I just read Kafka on the Shore.  I thought it was pretty good.  A little longer than it it needed to be maybe and I'm a little confused about the deeper meaning of the book.  I know it was basically just a retelling of Oedipus like 1Q84 is to 1984.   I'm not sure which Murakami I'd try next.  Norweigan Wood or The Wind-up Bird Chronicle probably.

Get Dance, Dance,  Dance.  Despite the less than wonderful title it's my favorite Murakami.  Haven't read the new one yet. 
School has been cutting into my reading but I'm about to finish up some Gabriel Garcia Marquez short stories and then start this:


wheee!

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« Reply #1639 on: February 19, 2013, 04:54:13 PM »

Read this badboy in a day. Tricky conceptuals made considerably less tricky for the layman.


Kind of corny at times, but also very insightful and inspiring. Bucky was an intellectual juggernaut. I especially like his use of the phrase "humid process regenerative machines" (humans).


Seneca; just being morally and ethically sound and shit.


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« Reply #1640 on: February 25, 2013, 10:32:33 AM »


Bought and finished yesterday, seeing as it's only 90 or so pages depending on the edition.  So good.

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« Reply #1641 on: February 25, 2013, 12:18:16 PM »


Bought and finished yesterday, seeing as it's only 90 or so pages depending on the edition.  So good.

I'll see if I can find it online, I read some criticism on it talking about all this subtext about the old ways of fishing which the old man does, and the new industrialized fisheries that were emerging at the time. There's all this stuff about Dimaggio too. I guess scholars figured out the date each day of the story takes place based on the stuff he says about the Yankee's pennant race.

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« Reply #1642 on: February 25, 2013, 03:39:12 PM »


Half-way through this tome. It's the 5th or 6th murakami book i've read in the last year. super dank metaphysical scifi shit.

I just read Kafka on the Shore.  I thought it was pretty good.  A little longer than it it needed to be maybe and I'm a little confused about the deeper meaning of the book.  I know it was basically just a retelling of Oedipus like 1Q84 is to 1984.   I'm not sure which Murakami I'd try next.  Norweigan Wood or The Wind-up Bird Chronicle probably.

Get Dance, Dance,  Dance.  Despite the less than wonderful title it's my favorite Murakami.  Haven't read the new one yet. 
School has been cutting into my reading but I'm about to finish up some Gabriel Garcia Marquez short stories and then start this:


Dance, Dance, Dance is a sort-of sequel to A Wild Sheep Chase, which is also awesome. Those two are easily my favorite books of his I read.

As for IQ84: I don't feel the usual sense of awe and wonder I feel after reading a Murakami. A lot of the mystical elements in this book seemed arbitrary to me. Maybe I'm too dumb to wrap my brain around ALL the unanswered questions arising from its 1300 pages, but I'm not really inspired to try. I enjoyed it for the story but I dunno...it all seemed kind of forced on his part.

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« Reply #1643 on: February 25, 2013, 03:50:10 PM »
Rob Brink recommended this and it delivers.  If you follow brink outside of Weekend Buzz, he's got good taste.

This book is for those who love poking fun at celebrity in the meanest, yet undeniably deserved, ways. 

Spoiler- Cintra Wilson actually posts and comments on fan mail from New Kids On The Block and it's SO fucking great.


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« Reply #1644 on: February 26, 2013, 09:02:18 AM »


Bought and finished yesterday, seeing as it's only 90 or so pages depending on the edition.  So good.

I'll see if I can find it online, I read some criticism on it talking about all this subtext about the old ways of fishing which the old man does, and the new industrialized fisheries that were emerging at the time. There's all this stuff about Dimaggio too. I guess scholars figured out the date each day of the story takes place based on the stuff he says about the Yankee's pennant race.

Finished this last night:



I really really enjoyed it.

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« Reply #1645 on: February 26, 2013, 12:39:59 PM »
Ay Merked, I'd love to read some of your stuff if you want to post a link.

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« Reply #1646 on: February 26, 2013, 12:56:55 PM »


Bought and finished yesterday, seeing as it's only 90 or so pages depending on the edition.?  So good.

I'll see if I can find it online, I read some criticism on it talking about all this subtext about the old ways of fishing which the old man does, and the new industrialized fisheries that were emerging at the time. There's all this stuff about Dimaggio too. I guess scholars figured out the date each day of the story takes place based on the stuff he says about the Yankee's pennant race.

Finished this last night:



I really really enjoyed it.

The Sun Also Rises is some top 5 shit for me. I'd love to read some terse manly hemingway-esque prose after trudging through Infinite Jest for what feels like the last 10 years of my life.

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« Reply #1647 on: February 26, 2013, 01:38:43 PM »


Halfway through this and I'm loving it. Never read anything by Saunders before, will definitely check out some of his earlier work.

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« Reply #1648 on: February 26, 2013, 01:49:08 PM »
Been reading The Long Goodbye by Raymond Chandler. Easy read albeit I'm doing it slowly. I'd recommend it or any of his Marlowe books.

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« Reply #1649 on: February 26, 2013, 01:56:48 PM »
Probably has been posted before, but i aint sifting through 50 pages