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Re: books to read
« Reply #2040 on: April 25, 2014, 07:54:07 PM »
Journey to the End of the Night by Louis-Ferdinand Celine is worthy of a skim.

understatement of the year right here...


How the fuck do you skim journey to the end of the night?

I couldn't finish that hoe.

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« Reply #2041 on: April 25, 2014, 08:08:10 PM »
I'm thinking about ordering a Norman Mailer book. Yous guys got any suggestions as to which one would be a good introduction or his best
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« Reply #2042 on: April 25, 2014, 09:57:19 PM »
Why bother reading him when you can watch him fight Rip Torn?


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« Reply #2043 on: April 25, 2014, 10:22:34 PM »
Why bother reading him when you can watch him fight Rip Torn?



HOLY FUCKING SHIT! I was interested in Mailer's letters between him and John Fante.(shit is crazy expensive) Still don't know if his writing is good or if it is just people being pretentious assholes that bring up his name. Fante being the man who inspired Bukowski. Bukowski got the dog shit kicked out of him on a regular basis but that was somehow an admirable trait because you didn't expect ol chinaski to get any glory. Thank you very much Chris Hansen is back and i salute your return. I will change my question to...where can i find a Rip Torn book. Patches Ohoolahan fucked shit up on the hurry up.
On another note John Fante is a great author and Bandini is one of my favorite literary figures.
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Re: books to read
« Reply #2044 on: April 25, 2014, 10:25:16 PM »
Rip Torn appreciation thread?
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« Reply #2045 on: April 26, 2014, 12:14:16 AM »
Just finished bram stockers dracula. Probably gonna start reading lair of the white worm next.

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« Reply #2046 on: April 28, 2014, 06:22:42 PM »
Picked up my first Kerouac book, On The Road, at a used bookstore.  I'm not too far in, but I love it so far.  As a Canuck, it only deepens my fascination with the US.  How massive it is, all the different types of people, history, natural landmarks, etc. 

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« Reply #2047 on: April 29, 2014, 10:58:38 AM »
Picked up my first Kerouac book, On The Road, at a used bookstore.  I'm not too far in, but I love it so far.  As a Canuck, it only deepens my fascination with the US.  How massive it is, all the different types of people, history, natural landmarks, etc.  

Yes, that book is pretty cool!


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Re: books to read
« Reply #2048 on: May 04, 2014, 08:33:54 AM »
Reading Goldfinch by Donna Tartt and finishing up Storm of Swords by GRR Martin. Recommend them both highly.

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« Reply #2049 on: May 06, 2014, 09:32:42 PM »
Journey to the End of the Night by Louis-Ferdinand Celine is worthy of a skim.

understatement of the year right here...


How the fuck do you skim journey to the end of the night?
Slowly for maximum absorption. I do tend to understate things. Clearly it's a great read.

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« Reply #2050 on: May 07, 2014, 11:34:15 AM »
Reading Goldfinch by Donna Tartt

Just started this, seems really good so far.

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Re: books to read
« Reply #2051 on: May 07, 2014, 05:08:15 PM »
rachel kushner -- the flamethrowers

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Re: books to read
« Reply #2052 on: May 07, 2014, 08:02:44 PM »
Has anyone read Prodigy's autobiography "My Infamous Life?"

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Re: books to read
« Reply #2053 on: May 08, 2014, 05:45:39 AM »
So far i've read:

The Art of Happiness - Tenzin Gyatso (Dalai Lama) and Howard Cutler  Would recommend
Hagakure (The Way of the Samurai) - Yamamoto Tsunemoto  Would recommend
Rashomon and Seventeen other stories - Ryūnosuke Akutagawa


Currently reading:
 
Notes from the Underground - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Tao of Gung Fu - Bruce Lee


After i'm done with those i will read Zen and the Art of Archery. After that i'll probably visit the bookstore again, maybe get Mike Oldfield's biography, or American Psycho (Though i'm not very fond of fiction)



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« Reply #2054 on: May 08, 2014, 09:29:09 AM »
i borrowed keith richards biography but i haven't started it yet. i will say that mick jagger's biography was through the roof, nonstop, balls and dick to the walls! that dude fucked every hot broad from his era through angelina jolie and most men too [clapton, bowie, brian jones, a bunch i don't remember]. wilt chamberlain's numbers ain't got shit on mick. carly simon wrote 'you're so vain' about him and some of his songs were about dudes [angie, i believe] dude was the most fucking-est man in show business. hopefully the keith richards book is better cause i feel like he's the more relatable stone.
I realise you posted this a long time ago but I stumbled across it and didn't Carly Simon eventually say that Your so Vain was written mostly in reference to Warren Beatty? Also "Angie" I believe was involving Bowie but also a weird wife/husband swapping thing they all had going on at the time.

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« Reply #2055 on: May 08, 2014, 09:44:07 AM »
i borrowed keith richards biography but i haven't started it yet. i will say that mick jagger's biography was through the roof, nonstop, balls and dick to the walls! that dude fucked every hot broad from his era through angelina jolie and most men too [clapton, bowie, brian jones, a bunch i don't remember]. wilt chamberlain's numbers ain't got shit on mick. carly simon wrote 'you're so vain' about him and some of his songs were about dudes [angie, i believe] dude was the most fucking-est man in show business. hopefully the keith richards book is better cause i feel like he's the more relatable stone.
I realise you posted this a long time ago but I stumbled across it and didn't Carly Simon eventually say that Your so Vain was written mostly in reference to Warren Beatty? Also "Angie" I believe was involving Bowie but also a weird wife/husband swapping thing they all had going on at the time.
for carly simon, maybe so but this was mick's biography. as for the bowie thing, it was pretty clear the he was 'angie' not his wife.

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Re: books to read
« Reply #2056 on: May 08, 2014, 01:35:36 PM »
So far i've read:

The Art of Happiness - Tenzin Gyatso (Dalai Lama) and Howard Cutler  Would recommend
Hagakure (The Way of the Samurai) - Yamamoto Tsunemoto  Would recommend
Rashomon and Seventeen other stories - Ryūnosuke Akutagawa


Currently reading:
 
Notes from the Underground - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Tao of Gung Fu - Bruce Lee


After i'm done with those i will read Zen and the Art of Archery. After that i'll probably visit the bookstore again, maybe get Mike Oldfield's biography, or American Psycho (Though i'm not very fond of fiction)


Notes from the underground is one of my favorites. The first sentence is great. I suggest The House of the Dead by Dostoyevsky too if you don't like fiction. It's about his time in a Serbian prison
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Re: books to read
« Reply #2057 on: May 08, 2014, 01:40:19 PM »

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Re: books to read
« Reply #2058 on: May 08, 2014, 02:17:23 PM »
So far i've read:

The Art of Happiness - Tenzin Gyatso (Dalai Lama) and Howard Cutler  Would recommend
Hagakure (The Way of the Samurai) - Yamamoto Tsunemoto  Would recommend
Rashomon and Seventeen other stories - Ryūnosuke Akutagawa


Currently reading:
 
Notes from the Underground - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Tao of Gung Fu - Bruce Lee


After i'm done with those i will read Zen and the Art of Archery. After that i'll probably visit the bookstore again, maybe get Mike Oldfield's biography, or American Psycho (Though i'm not very fond of fiction)


Notes from the underground is one of my favorites. The first sentence is great. I suggest The House of the Dead by Dostoyevsky too if you don't like fiction. It's about his time in a Siberian prison

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Re: books to read
« Reply #2059 on: May 08, 2014, 08:11:35 PM »
So far i've read:

The Art of Happiness - Tenzin Gyatso (Dalai Lama) and Howard Cutler  Would recommend
Hagakure (The Way of the Samurai) - Yamamoto Tsunemoto  Would recommend
Rashomon and Seventeen other stories - Ryūnosuke Akutagawa


Currently reading:
 
Notes from the Underground - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Tao of Gung Fu - Bruce Lee


After i'm done with those i will read Zen and the Art of Archery. After that i'll probably visit the bookstore again, maybe get Mike Oldfield's biography, or American Psycho (Though i'm not very fond of fiction)


Notes from the underground is one of my favorites. The first sentence is great. I suggest The House of the Dead by Dostoyevsky too if you don't like fiction. It's about his time in a Siberian prison
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« Reply #2060 on: May 10, 2014, 10:59:20 AM »
I have not, but I've had several friends that have.  I'm waiting until I read his first novel before I start on Infinite Jest because I'm still ambivalent about DFW as a fiction writer.  I have done similarly structured and really long/dense books before and I've found that it's very helpful to set daily goals to get through the length.  Like, give yourself three months and figure out how many pages you have to read per day to finish in that time.  That way, if a section is dragging, you can tell yourself, "I only have 10 more pages to read today." instead of "This is taking forever and I still have 900 pages to read."

His first novel is a lot harder to get through, a lot less rewarding and generally worse than infinite jest.

Infinte jest is actually pretty fun to read for a lot of the time.

If you have read some of his essays and and short stories and like them then you'll like infinite jest - its one of the best reading experiences I've had

I still decided to go through The Broom of the System first and it's not taking too long.  I'm almost done with Part One after about three or four days of reading.  It's just very transparent if you know anything about DFW.  I've listened to a lot of his interviews (none of which really touch on The Broom of the System) and read all of his non-fiction collections, so that makes it a little obvious, but the book is very clearly written by an ambitious young adult.  You can tell he is just getting into Pynchon and wants to write like him, but throws in a few curve balls so you can't say he is just copying him, you can tell that he is obsessed with Wittgenstein and linguistic philosophy, and you can tell he has dabbled in therapy and is annoyed by Freud/psychoanalysis and the role-playing and therapeutic games/techniques that they use.  It's not a difficult read if you have any experiences with his influences and you can definitely see what he's going for, but he's not successful at it and you're right--it isn't very rewarding.

To be honest, unless Infinite Jest is exponentially better than The Broom of the System and his short stories, I just might not be convinced of DFW's prowess as a fiction writer.
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Re: books to read
« Reply #2061 on: May 10, 2014, 04:02:26 PM »
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« Reply #2062 on: May 12, 2014, 09:17:54 PM »
Just started Filth by Irvine Welsh and it's pretty fuckin funny. Took a bit to absorb the Scottish dialect but it is entertaining to say the least. Scottish fuckers have a good sense of humor from what I have read so far.
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« Reply #2063 on: May 12, 2014, 09:45:31 PM »
vineland by thomas pynchon

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« Reply #2064 on: May 13, 2014, 09:02:57 AM »
I have not, but I've had several friends that have.  I'm waiting until I read his first novel before I start on Infinite Jest because I'm still ambivalent about DFW as a fiction writer.  I have done similarly structured and really long/dense books before and I've found that it's very helpful to set daily goals to get through the length.  Like, give yourself three months and figure out how many pages you have to read per day to finish in that time.  That way, if a section is dragging, you can tell yourself, "I only have 10 more pages to read today." instead of "This is taking forever and I still have 900 pages to read."

His first novel is a lot harder to get through, a lot less rewarding and generally worse than infinite jest.

Infinte jest is actually pretty fun to read for a lot of the time.

If you have read some of his essays and and short stories and like them then you'll like infinite jest - its one of the best reading experiences I've had

I still decided to go through The Broom of the System first and it's not taking too long.  I'm almost done with Part One after about three or four days of reading.  It's just very transparent if you know anything about DFW.  I've listened to a lot of his interviews (none of which really touch on The Broom of the System) and read all of his non-fiction collections, so that makes it a little obvious, but the book is very clearly written by an ambitious young adult.  You can tell he is just getting into Pynchon and wants to write like him, but throws in a few curve balls so you can't say he is just copying him, you can tell that he is obsessed with Wittgenstein and linguistic philosophy, and you can tell he has dabbled in therapy and is annoyed by Freud/psychoanalysis and the role-playing and therapeutic games/techniques that they use.  It's not a difficult read if you have any experiences with his influences and you can definitely see what he's going for, but he's not successful at it and you're right--it isn't very rewarding.

To be honest, unless Infinite Jest is exponentially better than The Broom of the System and his short stories, I just might not be convinced of DFW's prowess as a fiction writer.
It is.
Otherwise I see your point, but I don't agree. What you said about his obsessions is definitely true, but his writing works for me and I do find it rewarding.

Speaking of that, I almost finished :



"part revenge fantasy and part treatise on ancient philosophy, details the emotional devastation of a father beset on all sides by trouble and tragedy. It is at times violent, blasphemous, crude, juvenile, indecent, hilarious, upsetting?and altogether captivating, so to speak, for those very reasons."

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« Reply #2065 on: May 13, 2014, 03:04:07 PM »

Notes from the underground is one of my favorites. The first sentence is great. I suggest The House of the Dead by Dostoyevsky too if you don't like fiction. It's about his time in a Serbian prison

I've already read The House of the Dead, it was included with my copy, it was a good read, very interesting points were raised



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« Reply #2066 on: May 14, 2014, 07:54:11 AM »


This was really good. I'll definitely read it again at some point.

Just started this now



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« Reply #2067 on: May 17, 2014, 06:28:09 PM »


This isn't the first time I've tried tackling this book, it's just the previous times I've always had to relegate it to the backburner.

Just finished chapter 2, all about France's deficit, bloated government system, attempts at financial and economic reforms. Yes, was a bit dry but with a bit of coffee, there is a very engaging narrative to be had.

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« Reply #2068 on: May 18, 2014, 09:19:40 AM »
I've never tried to read any of Schama's books, but I really like his documentaries.

 You and the D00D have turned this thread into a horrible head-on-collision between a short bus full of retarded kids and a van full of paraplegics.



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« Reply #2069 on: May 18, 2014, 01:56:06 PM »
Recommend me something please.  I like everything by Phil K dick besides Ubik. Confederacy of dunces, The beach by alex Garland, liked the first half of some murakami book i cant remember the name of...Give me a book that i will be thinking about for months after i finish it. or dont