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"Is College Worth It?"
« on: December 28, 2009, 09:37:49 PM »
http://www.imagebath.com/donkeylips/college/

it's worth a read, especially if you're having doubts about college, as i am

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Re: "Is College Worth It?"
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2009, 09:43:39 PM »
pretty interesting, i read through it all. i still chose not to attend.

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Re: "Is College Worth It?"
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2009, 09:54:11 PM »
College is cool if you actually are down for the courses you are taking. If you hate your classes and career path you've chosen, why the fuck go?
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Re: "Is College Worth It?"
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2009, 09:55:03 PM »
The world is ending in 2 years. Fuck school. Meet me on the dance floor.



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Re: "Is College Worth It?"
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2009, 09:58:46 PM »
it all depends on the person. if you like doing shit that doesnt require a degree, something that you can learn through the trade, then dont go. if you're an ambitious artist who is self motivated and can create a great portfolio on your own, dont go. but if you're unsure of what you want to do, pick something and try to struggle through those 4 years. any degree is better than no degree and maybe by the time you graduate you'll have an idea of where you want to be and then you can realize it. more than anything else, i think college just put me where i want to be but it took me the 4 years of growing/learning to realize it and thats why i didnt finish in four years. fuck, who knows, im drunk and rambling and i really cant tell you what to do. just enjoy your life to the fullest extent. thats all you can do, you only live once.

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Re: "Is College Worth It?"
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2009, 10:02:02 PM »
The world is ending in 2 years. Fuck school. Meet me on the dance floor.

i might just take the next 2-3 years off from school to see if shit really goes down. hit me up nancy chin!
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Re: "Is College Worth It?"
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2009, 10:03:17 PM »
My biggest gripe with University is General-Ed courses. Bullshit remedial courses that nobody gives a shit about, and you probably won't retain anything you learned. But you still have to pay for them  :-X

I'm doing Community College right now. I took 1 year of University, and transferred back to the city after my dad got laid off.

I was irked at first, that I had to do Community College, but then I thought about some thing's.

Not a huge deal if I drop out and go to trade school. Sure there will be limited opportunity to advance up the corporate ladder, but if you're content with where you are its no big deal. I even get a head start on most of my peers, and depending on what kind of trade profession I do, I'll be making more than a lot of them.

If I do finish out the 2 years at Community College, I could always transfer to a 4 year university(Which I will).

See I just saved about $24,000 by doing Community College for 2 years. Also probably got the same caliber of education from the 2 years at Community College that I would 2 years of taking 4 year university General-Ed courses.


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Re: "Is College Worth It?"
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2009, 10:03:59 PM »
it all depends on the person. if you like doing shit that doesnt require a degree, something that you can learn through the trade, then dont go. if you're an ambitious artist who is self motivated and can create a great portfolio on your own, dont go. but if you're unsure of what you want to do, pick something and try to struggle through those 4 years. any degree is better than no degree and maybe by the time you graduate you'll have an idea of where you want to be and then you can realize it. more than anything else, i think college just put me where i want to be but it took me the 4 years of growing/learning to realize it and thats why i didnt finish in four years. fuck, who knows, im drunk and rambling and i really cant tell you what to do. just enjoy your life to the fullest extent. thats all you can do, you only live once.

..you hit the nail on the head.



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Re: "Is College Worth It?"
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2009, 10:04:51 PM »
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The world is ending in 2 years. Fuck school. Meet me on the dance floor.
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i might just take the next 2-3 years off from school to see if shit really goes down. hit me up nancy chin!

no problemo, bro!



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Re: "Is College Worth It?"
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2009, 10:06:04 PM »
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The world is ending in 2 years. Fuck school. Meet me on the dance floor.
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You believe in that Mayan calendar bullshit? All you have to do is look at their descendants, the lazy 3rd-worlders crossing our border, do these people seem like the type who could predict the end of the world? Indians were too weak to fight against us and their civilizations were inferior, they couldn't predict something like that.

Hell nah I don't believe in Mayans. My brother's girlifriend's cousin told me that the world was ending in 2012, and I believe anything that hoe says.



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Re: "Is College Worth It?"
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2009, 10:23:12 PM »
I would say for the type of people who frequent this website, no college is not worth it. There's a big business in selling people bullshit degrees like "business administration" or other crap. If you're going to college without any real direction, you're wasting your time. I'm in a state school and still in my first two years, and when talking with one of my professors he told me that something like 80% of the people in math and science majors wash out before they graduate, with only 3 graduating the year before.

You go to college if you plan on having a serious career in something that requires real training. Not just job training like how to use excel so you can snag a job as a secretary for the local car insurance office, but training of your mind. There's a tremendous leap from the kiddy courses and the real math and science courses, which should be the focus of anyone who's serious about their life. All the other "soft" stuff is fine if you want to just get a job so you can afford a nice car and a nice tv, but you don't need college for that.

However, if you have higher goals for yourself in life, other that just hoping to make enough money one day to enjoy material goods, then yes your ass belongs in college. Now, you might call me a hypocrite because I'm in a state school, but I'm perfectly aware that my real education hasn't even begun yet. And state schools are a great place to prepare you for the real road the lies ahead.

What I'm trying to say is there is a difference between academia and job training. You need to decide which you're cut out for.

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Re: "Is College Worth It?"
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2009, 10:52:08 PM »
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The world is ending in 2 years. Fuck school. Meet me on the dance floor.
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You believe in that Mayan calendar bullshit? All you have to do is look at their descendants, the lazy 3rd-worlders crossing our border, do these people seem like the type who could predict the end of the world? Indians were too weak to fight against us and their civilizations were inferior, they couldn't predict something like that.

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Re: "Is College Worth It?"
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2009, 12:52:30 AM »
Figure out what you want to do before attending college, if possible, but if not, college remains a wonderful place to figure yourself out while bedding girls in a higher tax bracket than you.  And, statistically, a degree of any variety is a pathway to a higher income for the rest of your life, regardless of how banal your career may end up being.  Also, you may want to consider not using this little flow chart as your metric for whether college is worth it or not.  It lacks perspective. I'm pro-college.

But there's a lot of merit to the other side of the argument too; there are plenty of fulfilling careers in trades to pursue, and you could potentially succeed as an artist or entrepreneur with the right motivation and luck. 

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Re: "Is College Worth It?"
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2009, 01:40:01 AM »
It is if :

A) Your parents can support you so you won't get into to much debt and don't have to worry if the only thing you get out of college is a good time.
B) Your not sure what you want to do and if you dont go to college your going to end up in a shitty job you don'y care about.
C) You want to be a doctor, lawyer, philosopher, scientist, historian, policy advisor, engineer, teacher etc any kind of proffesional/academic job.

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Re: "Is College Worth It?"
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2009, 02:03:35 AM »
yeah, i dropped out, and will hopefully be going to culinary school instead once i can get some loans approved.


regular college isn't for everyone.


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Re: "Is College Worth It?"
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2009, 02:43:48 AM »
I am a college graduate and I am currently doing zilch with my life.
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Re: "Is College Worth It?"
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2009, 03:31:20 AM »
Figure out what you want to do before attending college, if possible, but if not, college remains a wonderful place to figure yourself out while bedding girls in a higher tax bracket than you.  And, statistically, a degree of any variety is a pathway to a higher income for the rest of your life, regardless of how banal your career may end up being.  Also, you may want to consider not using this little flow chart as your metric for whether college is worth it or not.  It lacks perspective. I'm pro-college.

But there's a lot of merit to the other side of the argument too; there are plenty of fulfilling careers in trades to pursue, and you could potentially succeed as an artist or entrepreneur with the right motivation and luck. 


that link is bullshit.  my friend's got a 4 year degree and can't get even the easiest shitty jobs.  this poster is right: all college is good for is fucking girls that normally wouldn't fuck you if you weren't there. 

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Re: "Is College Worth It?"
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2009, 04:34:49 AM »
i hate that in the US not going to college isn't really considered a good move. trade school and/or apprenticeships are both perfectly viable options and most of the time you get better money and are in a lot less to no debt. whatever it is, make sure you enjoy it.

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Re: "Is College Worth It?"
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2009, 05:46:25 AM »
me and all the people who i know who went to school are all doing really well and none regret it. but we were all math\science majors and have all been able to step straight into rewarding, well paying careers. i firmly believe that college is worth it for certain majors if you need to borrow and worth it for any major if you can do it without borrowing (scholarships, working, family, ect...)

and the whole idea that taking classes that aren't job training is a waste of time is absurd and shows that you really don't get what the whole point of an acedimic education is. the classes in highschool are eqaully "not job training" but don't you think there would be a world of difference between a person who only finished jr high and a person with a high school diploma?

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Re: "Is College Worth It?"
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2009, 07:57:45 AM »
I am a college graduate and I am currently doing zilch with my life.

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Re: "Is College Worth It?"
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2009, 08:37:40 AM »
Whatever you decide, don't go to some technical school that charges you $16,000 to earn a certificate in some trade in two years. Those schools are a rip off, you never get a job when you graduate and if you do you're still making shit for money.

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« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2009, 08:48:24 AM »
Working a shitty job during and/or after college will make earning good money feel real good.

Some kids are handed good jobs right after and have no idea what they're getting for free.

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Re: "Is College Worth It?"
« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2009, 08:51:40 AM »
Wow, you Americans sure do get ripped off for post-secondary education!!  20 grand for community college?  WOW!!

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Re: "Is College Worth It?"
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2009, 09:01:42 AM »
simply put, college is a 4 year party with no parents or anyone else telling you want to do.  you will get mad pussy, drink mad booze, and do mad drugs(if you're into that kind of thing).  nothing but good times with no rules. 

college also helps you build connections that could help benefit your future, and vise versa.  we've all heard the saying, "its all in who you know", well its 100% true.  you never know who or what the beer pong champ in your dorm will become?

even if you got a regular job, you will only advance so far with a HS education.  they're not going to pay you as much as the guy who finished 4 years of college, it rarely happens.  where as with a college degree, the skies the limit, you can advance as far as you want. 

yet another old saying, "its better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it".  after 4 years of partying, getting laid, going to class and doing your shit, you'll have this official piece of paper that says employers need to pay you what your worth. 

say you went into a trade and became a heating and cooling technician.  from there you have 2 choices, you can be a worker or you could be a boss.   you can be an employee because you have a GED(aka good enough diploma), or you can be an employer because you went to college and earned a business degree.  which one do you want to be?   

college isn't for everyone but knowledge never hurt anyone.         
partys, pussy, connections(maybe meeting your significant other), and a degree, college is totally worth it in every way. 


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Re: "Is College Worth It?"
« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2009, 09:10:38 AM »
i didn't even talk about the social side of college but seriously fasters on point, why would you want to miss out on that side of it also. i can't imagine being 18 and prefering going straight to work to studying.

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Re: "Is College Worth It?"
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2009, 09:11:45 AM »
i think people look at college as a means to acquiring a specific job and that is really not what it is about at all
so many people train to become doctors, lawyers, etc. for like 10 years before they actually get to become it
where college is like 2-3 years
you should think of it more as your 2nd time through high school you do learn a lot of different things. it kind of feels like you are just doing high school again but when i go back and watch videos of myself talking in high school or read stuff i wrote or even listen to music i made i can tell how much crappier it was then compared to now.
finishing college kind of gives you a bit more self esteem as well you feel more comfortable applying for jobs even though you know you arent extra special just for finishing school or whatever cause you learn while you are there mad retards finish.

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Re: "Is College Worth It?"
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2009, 09:18:03 AM »
College works for some people, but shouldn't be your automatic go to after high school.

There are trade jobs / certificate programs that will get you a decent salary and take significantly less time and money than a four year bachelors degree.  I know a lot of people who loaded up on student loan debt and ended up graduating with a worthless degree (english, history, etc) and work retail because they can't find jobs.

Four years of partying is nice or whatever, but if you want to just party for four years then chill with dudes at your local college and don't waste the money half assing an education.

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Re: "Is College Worth It?"
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2009, 09:25:40 AM »
i've been saying for years that parents and teachers have been selling the college experience all wrong.  since i could remember they kept harping on how i needed to find a career and think of my future.  that stuff is important too but so is meeting new people, partying and getting laid is equally important as well.

most soon to be HS graduates associate life at college being the same as their life in HS when nothing could be further from the truth.  college is a fresh start for everyone who goes, not just you.  no one knows anything about anyone and none of the bullshit from your past follows you there.  you get to start with a clean slate and you have a chance to reinvent yourself so to speak.  all the while you'll be gaining an education, partying like its going out of style, and having lots of hot monkey sex with random chicks.  i don't care want anyone says, college fucking rules!


  

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Re: "Is College Worth It?"
« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2009, 09:51:43 AM »
I have a friend who will get his doctorate degree in philosophy soon. This man avoids real life like the plague.

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Re: "Is College Worth It?"
« Reply #29 on: December 29, 2009, 10:01:34 AM »
I have a friend who will get his doctorate degree in philosophy soon. This man avoids real life like the plague.

Real life is a huge bummer, that's why...
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