Dave Carnie hates Burzum

[Acrid Avid Jam Shred]

I jokingly wrote into to Skateboardmag about some comment Dave carnie made about about black metal and it got published.

Mine's the middle one, by anonymous
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I have no real clue what he's talking about.

[oyolar]

Varg only was in prison 16 years. And no one knows what Dave Carnie talks about in his responses. He likes to go on tangents. Burzum (as a band) isn't that bad though. What was Carnie's original comment about black metal?

[Mr. DNA]

I'm getting my name legally changed to Potato Head

[Hobochilli]

You should have signed it euronymus after the guy in mayhem that he killed

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Have any of you guys seen Until The Light Takes Us?

[oyolar]

Have any of you guys seen Until The Light Takes Us?

Yeah. It was pretty good. I kind of hyped it up too much in my head and was disappointed by it. There were a few scenes where I was frustrated at the filmmakers because I though they could have asked Fenriz something more prying or detailed or delved deeper into a few of the comments made by the musicians. I hear that the DVD is supposed to contain at least some of the interviews they conducted with Varg, Fenriz, etc. unedited so if that's true, I'll buy the DVD just for that. I think one of the reasons I was disappointed by it was the fact that the Norwegian Black Metal scene and its ethos really interest me so I already knew all of the history behind the scene. I was hoping the movie would delve more into the mindset of the key musicians and stuff.

[macgruber]

Burzum: a one man, WHITE power BLACK metal band... 

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.Net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=130624

rather than abandon my own music, only because others have soiled its name by claiming to have something in common with it, I will stick to it. The 'black metallers' will probably continue to 'get loaded,' 'get high,' and in all other manners too behave like the stereotypical Negro; they will probably continue to get foreign tribal tattoos, dress, walk, talk, look and act like homosexuals, and so forth.

i always get weirded out by people in burzum shit.

[Acrid Avid Jam Shred]

Burzum: a one man, WHITE power BLACK metal band... 

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.Net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=130624

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rather than abandon my own music, only because others have soiled its name by claiming to have something in common with it, I will stick to it. The 'black metallers' will probably continue to 'get loaded,' 'get high,' and in all other manners too behave like the stereotypical Negro; they will probably continue to get foreign tribal tattoos, dress, walk, talk, look and act like homosexuals, and so forth.

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i always get weirded out by people in burzum shit.

It sucks Varg is a weird white power militant nazi asshole, his music still kicks so much ass. I guess all the more reason to love Darkthrone. From what I saw in Until the Light Takes Us, Fenriz was only really concerned with how "black" the music was, not the political/religious side of it like varg.

[RevertEverything]

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Have any of you guys seen Until The Light Takes Us?

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Yeah. It was pretty good. I kind of hyped it up too much in my head and was disappointed by it. There were a few scenes where I was frustrated at the filmmakers because I though they could have asked Fenriz something more prying or detailed or delved deeper into a few of the comments made by the musicians. I hear that the DVD is supposed to contain at least some of the interviews they conducted with Varg, Fenriz, etc. unedited so if that's true, I'll buy the DVD just for that. I think one of the reasons I was disappointed by it was the fact that the Norwegian Black Metal scene and its ethos really interest me so I already knew all of the history behind the scene. I was hoping the movie would delve more into the mindset of the key musicians and stuff.

I really wanted to go when it passed through SF, but I missed it.  Oddly, this is almost exactly what the friends who did see mentioned.  A lot of the same old stories that anyone mildly familiar with black metal history would already know. Regardless, I will be getting the DVD when it comes out.

Burzum: a one man, WHITE power BLACK metal band... 

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.Net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=130624

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rather than abandon my own music, only because others have soiled its name by claiming to have something in common with it, I will stick to it. The 'black metallers' will probably continue to 'get loaded,' 'get high,' and in all other manners too behave like the stereotypical Negro; they will probably continue to get foreign tribal tattoos, dress, walk, talk, look and act like homosexuals, and so forth.

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i always get weirded out by people in burzum shit.

Take notice kids, this is what happens when a crazy ego maniac gets locked up in  jail and a bunch of white power vikings.  He is so full of himself it's funny.  $5 says Varg has never actually met a real "negro" in person.

[VictoriousOG]

Weird how I was just in the bathroom reading your letter.

Congrats.

[oyolar]

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Burzum: a one man, WHITE power BLACK metal band... 

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.Net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=130624

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rather than abandon my own music, only because others have soiled its name by claiming to have something in common with it, I will stick to it. The 'black metallers' will probably continue to 'get loaded,' 'get high,' and in all other manners too behave like the stereotypical Negro; they will probably continue to get foreign tribal tattoos, dress, walk, talk, look and act like homosexuals, and so forth.

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i always get weirded out by people in burzum shit.

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It sucks Varg is a weird white power militant nazi asshole, his music still kicks so much ass. I guess all the more reason to love Darkthrone. From what I saw in Until the Light Takes Us, Fenriz was only really concerned with how "black" the music was, not the political/religious side of it like varg.

I think it's important to state that most of Burzum's songs aren't white power related, especially compared to a lot of NSBM bands. It's just Varg's personal philosophy. I'm not a big Burzum fan, but it's important to make the distinction between Varg's musical output and his individual beliefs. I read this pretty good article in Decibel about Varg where the author of the article brings up how absurd it is that Varg is hated more for his racist views than the fact that he killed someone. The author mentions that it's important to note that Varg's murder was not spawned by race and although his beliefs aren't excusable, he should be hated more for being a murderer than a racist. I thought that was an interesting idea.

[GnarlesManson]

it bums me out that a lot of black metal bands are white supremacists, but the music is still cool sometimes. 

[oyolar]

NSBM is actually a pretty small subgroup of black metal. Now if you're talking just the musicians-I agree. But as long as their music is good and not NSBM, then it doesn't really bother me. But I get kind of tired with a lot of black metal bands for the same reason Varg does. A good amount of modern bands are merely rehashing early '90s Norwegian black metal because they think that's what being black metal is. That's just not true and very irritating, especially when the bands are fairly recently started.

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it seems like varg really made up that whole guitar sound just playing through the worst equipment possible, you can't beat it.