I definitely wouldn't say those vans are perfect, but you have to appreciate any shoe that is different than other products on the market (in our industry). Ideally our own industry would start taking risks and creating contemporary designs that actually define this era. That's what made late 90s-early 00s shoes dope. It was paneling and language that gave the shoes personal identity, not the primitive over-padded form! I would almost say the last time a skate shoe was truly designed was around 2003. From then till very recently every design looks like it was drawn by a robot.