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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #300 on: May 26, 2016, 04:15:16 PM »
I was wondering what the 38 special was all about.  Then I heard it from someone that the axle nut is 3/8 which is the same as your mounting nut and can use the same tool (although most skate tools comes with both).  Looking at that kingpin nut I'm assuming it's 3/8 as well.  My guess for why you still need the cap is that since it's only 3/8 nut without a washer it could blow right through your bushing.  I could be wrong but I don't think the kingpin is hollow.  It just has the allen wrench feature in it.  I'm assuming the allen wrench would be the same as the one you use if you had allen bolts for your mounting hardware?  In which case you'd only need 2 tools for your entire set up?
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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #301 on: May 26, 2016, 10:52:51 PM »
Reminds me of roller skates......which reminds me....what is the wrench part of an elephant tool for?  I forget....it's got to do with old trucks or roller skates....

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #302 on: June 02, 2016, 01:05:30 AM »
Tried my first ever pair of Ace yesterday. I was riding Indy's 149 with medium bones before (top washer only).
Ace 44 with medium bones without bottom washer are way too turny for me, so I put both washers.

I didn't tested the stock bushings, maybe I will give them a try.

The turning is very good, they are lighter than Indy and you can feel it when you skate.
Grinding is good, crooked and smiths are perfect, and I think the wheels does not touch the ledge as often as Indys during tailslides.

I'm skating them with a 8.375 Quasi board (which size like a 8.25 btw), so I put the two washers outside of the wheels.
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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #303 on: June 02, 2016, 05:45:48 AM »
Tried my first ever pair of Ace yesterday. I was riding Indy's 149 with medium bones before (top washer only).
Ace 44 with medium bones without bottom washer are way too turny for me, so I put both washers.

I didn't tested the stock bushings, maybe I will give them a try.

The turning is very good, they are lighter than Indy and you can feel it when you skate.
Grinding is good, crooked and smiths are perfect, and I think the wheels does not touch the ledge as often as Indys during tailslides.

I'm skating them with a 8.375 Quasi board (which size like a 8.25 btw), so I put the two washers outside of the wheels.
I also just set up my Aces yesterday. I'm running everything stock for now because it's been 100+ degrees all week and I figured the harder stock bushings would hold up well, but I couldn't get them to feel very loose without loosening them to the point where the nut kept coming off mid-trick and making me eat shit. But I also have some Krux bushings I might try today.

For those with experience using both, which do you like better?

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #304 on: June 02, 2016, 08:08:12 AM »
Tried my first ever pair of Ace yesterday. I was riding Indy's 149 with medium bones before (top washer only).
Ace 44 with medium bones without bottom washer are way too turny for me, so I put both washers.

I didn't tested the stock bushings, maybe I will give them a try.

The turning is very good, they are lighter than Indy and you can feel it when you skate.
Grinding is good, crooked and smiths are perfect, and I think the wheels does not touch the ledge as often as Indys during tailslides.

I'm skating them with a 8.375 Quasi board (which size like a 8.25 btw), so I put the two washers outside of the wheels.

Everyone thinks Ace are lighter than Indy because they look like they should be but they're actually the same weight

Ace 44's - 392g
Indy 149 - 394g (technically a bigger size as well)

By comparison Indy 149 Ti are 340g
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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #305 on: June 02, 2016, 09:13:57 AM »
true. they feel lighter perhaps due to their sprightly turn and liveliness...

they also grind down faster than indy, so will get lighter sooner... ha ha...

now, if they'd only start producing some aftermarket bushing options.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #306 on: June 02, 2016, 09:50:48 AM »
I think another reason they feel lighter is perhaps because the axles are not as far back as Indys.  It makes my wheelbase seem shorter and gives a better response on ollies IMO.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #307 on: June 02, 2016, 10:48:18 AM »
true. they feel lighter perhaps due to their sprightly turn and liveliness...

they also grind down faster than indy, so will get lighter sooner... ha ha...

now, if they'd only start producing some aftermarket bushing options.

Well, they do sell aftermarket's but I'm pretty sure it's the same durometer as the stock ones (too hard ha). Other durometer choices and some better fuckin' pivot cups would be great...

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #308 on: June 03, 2016, 08:51:10 AM »
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Tried my first ever pair of Ace yesterday. I was riding Indy's 149 with medium bones before (top washer only).
Ace 44 with medium bones without bottom washer are way too turny for me, so I put both washers.

I didn't tested the stock bushings, maybe I will give them a try.

The turning is very good, they are lighter than Indy and you can feel it when you skate.
Grinding is good, crooked and smiths are perfect, and I think the wheels does not touch the ledge as often as Indys during tailslides.

I'm skating them with a 8.375 Quasi board (which size like a 8.25 btw), so I put the two washers outside of the wheels.
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I also just set up my Aces yesterday. I'm running everything stock for now because it's been 100+ degrees all week and I figured the harder stock bushings would hold up well, but I couldn't get them to feel very loose without loosening them to the point where the nut kept coming off mid-trick and making me eat shit. But I also have some Krux bushings I might try today.

For those with experience using both, which do you like better?

Krux over the stock. No question.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #309 on: June 03, 2016, 01:02:54 PM »
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Tried my first ever pair of Ace yesterday. I was riding Indy's 149 with medium bones before (top washer only).
Ace 44 with medium bones without bottom washer are way too turny for me, so I put both washers.

I didn't tested the stock bushings, maybe I will give them a try.

The turning is very good, they are lighter than Indy and you can feel it when you skate.
Grinding is good, crooked and smiths are perfect, and I think the wheels does not touch the ledge as often as Indys during tailslides.

I'm skating them with a 8.375 Quasi board (which size like a 8.25 btw), so I put the two washers outside of the wheels.
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I also just set up my Aces yesterday. I'm running everything stock for now because it's been 100+ degrees all week and I figured the harder stock bushings would hold up well, but I couldn't get them to feel very loose without loosening them to the point where the nut kept coming off mid-trick and making me eat shit. But I also have some Krux bushings I might try today.

For those with experience using both, which do you like better?
Krux for sure. The top bushing is also a little shorter so you can get the nut on more with out it tightening down on the bushing as much. You can also try stock bottom bushing krux top.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #310 on: June 12, 2016, 09:11:42 AM »
Not  normally a fan of colors, but these are just pure truck porn.


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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #311 on: June 15, 2016, 04:32:40 PM »
Not  normally a fan of colors, but these are just pure truck porn.



Nice!  My only problem is that 55's are a 8.9 or 9 inch truck and 44's are 8.38 or somewhere abouts.  That's a huge gap between sizes.  I want to run a cruiser board between 8.5 and 8.75, but can't swing either one.  Where's the 8.62 inch truck?

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #312 on: June 15, 2016, 05:01:31 PM »
Those red Ace's are definitely sexy. It's the only colored truck I'd probably buy but I always end up raw doggin' it.

If you're getting an 8.6ish deck just put 3-4 speed rings on the inside of some 44's and you'll be good.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #313 on: June 16, 2016, 12:34:47 AM »
Those red Ace's are definitely sexy. It's the only colored truck I'd probably buy but I always end up raw doggin' it.

If you're getting an 8.6ish deck just put 3-4 speed rings on the inside of some 44's and you'll be good.

tried to find some speed rings at my local hardware store but they only have ones that detach rather than a full ring. it's almost like those things that's used on keychains. i know it's a thing on Ace's where you add speed rings to get more hanger space and better placement of the wheel. but yeah! anywhere else can you get them?

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #314 on: June 16, 2016, 07:36:06 AM »
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Those red Ace's are definitely sexy. It's the only colored truck I'd probably buy but I always end up raw doggin' it.

If you're getting an 8.6ish deck just put 3-4 speed rings on the inside of some 44's and you'll be good.
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tried to find some speed rings at my local hardware store but they only have ones that detach rather than a full ring. it's almost like those things that's used on keychains. i know it's a thing on Ace's where you add speed rings to get more hanger space and better placement of the wheel. but yeah! anywhere else can you get them?
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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #315 on: June 17, 2016, 03:49:46 AM »
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Not  normally a fan of colors, but these are just pure truck porn.


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Nice!  My only problem is that 55's are a 8.9 or 9 inch truck and 44's are 8.38 or somewhere abouts.  That's a huge gap between sizes.  I want to run a cruiser board between 8.5 and 8.75, but can't swing either one.  Where's the 8.62 inch truck?

Just run the 44's with the spacer on the inside and stop staring at your board with a ruler, it's fine.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #316 on: June 17, 2016, 09:11:46 AM »
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Not  normally a fan of colors, but these are just pure truck porn.


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Nice!  My only problem is that 55's are a 8.9 or 9 inch truck and 44's are 8.38 or somewhere abouts.  That's a huge gap between sizes.  I want to run a cruiser board between 8.5 and 8.75, but can't swing either one.  Where's the 8.62 inch truck?

Just run 55s


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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #317 on: June 17, 2016, 03:07:28 PM »
Nope can't swing either one.  I run the spacers on my 8.38 regular deck and that's the max for me.  I'm not going to run 55's either.  I tried my friends board and its way too big.  I'm stuck at the moment riding 149 Indys with the spacers.  I'm quirky like that.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #318 on: June 17, 2016, 06:52:07 PM »
Taking the plunge on the redesigns. We'll see how this goes.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #319 on: June 20, 2016, 06:32:29 AM »
Krux bushings also come with pivot cups. Not sure if they are as good khiros but might be worth trying. in saying that my stock ace pivot cups have been fine.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #320 on: June 20, 2016, 06:43:48 AM »
Noticed the kingpins on the beefed-up version is shorter than the previous version. Swapped the top bushings for some bones medium i had lying around. Now they are loose enough for my liking.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #321 on: June 20, 2016, 08:41:09 AM »
Krux bushings also come with pivot cups. Not sure if they are as good khiros but might be worth trying. in saying that my stock ace pivot cups have been fine.

Problem there is the Krux pivot cups are sooooo much taller than any other pivot cup on the RKP market...so bizzare.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #322 on: June 20, 2016, 09:48:01 AM »
i haven't even compared them as my ace pivot cups are just fine. i'm curious though... does it matter if they stick out a little?

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #323 on: June 21, 2016, 12:51:52 PM »
First day on the 44 redesigns and they are feeling good.I've got a little easier leverage over ollies than with the Thunders I was using. I'm happy so far.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #324 on: June 23, 2016, 02:08:25 PM »
i haven't even compared them as my ace pivot cups are just fine. i'm curious though... does it matter if they stick out a little?

Krux are way longer than standard, doubt it would mess with anything using them in other trucks. I wouldn't, however, us regular pivots cuts in krux, you'd have metal on metal action \m/

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #325 on: July 25, 2016, 09:37:12 PM »
i'm getting closer and closer to needing new trucks. 

been wanting to try titanium indy, because i like the idea of slightly lighter truck.  is it really true that ace 44's are the exact width as 149?  thought 149 were wider

as much as i want to try indy again, i am leaning towards sticking with Ace.  some people don't like the way they look but personally i like the minimal design (of the older design).  indys feel more bulky to me, which i guess is good for durability but also feels clunky or something

also, when rode indy's i had like 3 pairs in a row that had the axel slip.  no problems with my Ace

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #326 on: July 25, 2016, 09:46:23 PM »
how does ace not have an actual website anymore, just a facebook?

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #327 on: July 25, 2016, 09:47:37 PM »
i'm getting closer and closer to needing new trucks.�

been wanting to try titanium indy, because i like the idea of slightly lighter truck.� is it really true that ace 44's are the exact width as 149?� thought 149 were wider

as much as i want to try indy again, i am leaning towards sticking with Ace.� some people don't like the way they look but personally i like the minimal design (of the older design).� indys feel more bulky to me, which i guess is good for durability but also feels clunky or something

also, when rode indy's i had like 3 pairs in a row that had the axel slip.� no problems with my Ace

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ACE44s come in around 8.38, smaller than 149s.

The Stage I Ace hangers (and V1 Theeve & current Thunder, tho the new 149 has a more indy yoke look to them) look great, svelte design; Indy's look bulky compared to everything out there. The Indy TIs are much lighter than stock ACEs if that matters to you.

I'm actually tempted to jump back on the theeve wagon....resisting the urge tho.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #328 on: July 25, 2016, 09:48:14 PM »
Anyone know if those 38special nuts will be sold on their own, I want a better look at them

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #329 on: July 25, 2016, 10:30:08 PM »
Anyone know if those 38special nuts will be sold on their own, I want a better look at them
Maybe try a hardware store?
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