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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #510 on: November 06, 2016, 05:31:20 PM »
but you have to fuck with like 734 things on them to make them actually rideable  tho right?

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #511 on: November 06, 2016, 07:03:07 PM »
So is the switch from indy to these worth it?

Yeah.

definitely , i was riding indy lows mainly cause of the deep indy carve/turn but with my low preference but the weight was killing me, all the shredders who rock standard indys full solid weight can tell you, me the world how weight doesnt matter but truthfully, it DOES matter cause when your getting a bit winded youll feel it. how much effort it takes just to try another trick. lighter trucks make it easier

to wrap it up, aces are like indys but lighter and quicker on the turn response

but you have to fuck with like 734 things on them to make them actually rideable  tho right?


i dont think so, since your riding thunder 149 if your curious imp i suggest try some 44 the new ones. they should be about the same height, probably lighter by a little, and trust me they turn just as quick as thunders but turn deeper than thunder by some. im loving my 03.

the ace stock bushings are kinda tight at first but give them time and they break in feeling like thunder bushngs, atleast thats how i feel. and like everyone says, the aces should shorten your wheel base or keep it at the length the board originally measured it to be rather than extend it like the thunders do.

dont get me wrong thunders are good if you want excellent response but if you want something between thunder and indy definitely ACE. in my opinion the krux bushing swap is just so they get a nice soft deep quick turn and response, i dont ride loose so i keep it in the middle with the stock(sorry if im repeating ahah) i have my trucks medium tight, i can still turn while cruising even on sharp corners, it just takes a little effort sometimes a tick tack but rarely
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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #512 on: November 06, 2016, 07:06:23 PM »
nice, I'm guessing I'll stick with the thunders for a bit - just seemed like less fuss off the bat (which is exactly what I was looking for). 

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #513 on: November 06, 2016, 07:25:51 PM »
rob is right. ace take some of the best attributes of both Indy and Thunder. you got a super responsive turn at slow speeds but strangely they are stable at speed. at least in my experience. i just don't like the sizing so much. if there was something between 44s and 55s i might have my truck...

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #514 on: November 06, 2016, 07:37:51 PM »
So is the switch from indy to these worth it?

Depends on what you want out of the truck and what / how you skate as they all do the same thing, just slightly different.

Indy's are probably the best all around truck (forged).

I've been switching off/on Indy and Thunders but swapped out to aces/bones med today, felt so good; they did what I want when I wanted and didn't feel off with anything.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #515 on: November 06, 2016, 07:43:54 PM »
rob is right. ace take some of the best attributes of both Indy and Thunder. you got a super responsive turn at slow speeds but strangely they are stable at speed. at least in my experience. i just don't like the sizing so much. if there was something between 44s and 55s i might have my truck...

woah what size are 55s ?

i know 44 are 8.25
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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #516 on: November 06, 2016, 09:51:55 PM »
So is the switch from indy to these worth it?

Yeah.

definitely , i was riding indy lows mainly cause of the deep indy carve/turn but with my low preference but the weight was killing me, all the shredders who rock standard indys full solid weight can tell you, me the world how weight doesnt matter but truthfully, it DOES matter cause when your getting a bit winded youll feel it. how much effort it takes just to try another trick. lighter trucks make it easier

to wrap it up, aces are like indys but lighter and quicker on the turn response

but you have to fuck with like 734 things on them to make them actually rideable  tho right?


i dont think so, since your riding thunder 149 if your curious imp i suggest try some 44 the new ones. they should be about the same height, probably lighter by a little, and trust me they turn just as quick as thunders but turn deeper than thunder by some. im loving my 03.

the ace stock bushings are kinda tight at first but give them time and they break in feeling like thunder bushngs, atleast thats how i feel. and like everyone says, the aces should shorten your wheel base or keep it at the length the board originally measured it to be rather than extend it like the thunders do.

dont get me wrong thunders are good if you want excellent response but if you want something between thunder and indy definitely ACE. in my opinion the krux bushing swap is just so they get a nice soft deep quick turn and response, i dont ride loose so i keep it in the middle with the stock(sorry if im repeating ahah) i have my trucks medium tight, i can still turn while cruising even on sharp corners, it just takes a little effort sometimes a tick tack but rarely
Thanks man im deffinitely gonna order a set now



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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #517 on: November 06, 2016, 11:11:47 PM »
you wont regret, they grind like butter too.
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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #518 on: November 07, 2016, 12:21:14 AM »
I've been riding Indy for 10 years, switched to Ace 44 in May, and I really enjoy them.
The perfect thing is that they can be very loose while holding up on high speed, and no wheel bites.

I had to deal with the Krux bushing thing since I didn't want to wait for the stocks to break in...

I don't think I'll be back on Indy soon, Aces fit really nice with the way I skate.
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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #519 on: November 07, 2016, 08:52:44 AM »
rob is right. ace take some of the best attributes of both Indy and Thunder. you got a super responsive turn at slow speeds but strangely they are stable at speed. at least in my experience. i just don't like the sizing so much. if there was something between 44s and 55s i might have my truck...

woah what size are 55s ?

i know 44 are 8.25

55s are 8 7/8" axle/ 162mm hanger I believe. 44s are more like 8 3/8"s axles and 146mm hangers...

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #520 on: November 07, 2016, 02:47:58 PM »
rob is right. ace take some of the best attributes of both Indy and Thunder. you got a super responsive turn at slow speeds but strangely they are stable at speed. at least in my experience. i just don't like the sizing so much. if there was something between 44s and 55s i might have my truck...

Sizing is odd, but I get that they were trying to accommodate more than one deck size per truck; 44s are such a universal size really.

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« Reply #521 on: November 07, 2016, 06:50:39 PM »
44's really are perfect in width now that they're just a tiny bit more than 8.25. Don't notice any difference compared to Indy 149's.

If only Ace stepped up their quality control, and moved their production to USA. They could possibly be the best truck...ever.

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« Reply #522 on: November 07, 2016, 08:05:38 PM »
44's really are perfect in width now that they're just a tiny bit more than 8.25. Don't notice any difference compared to Indy 149's.

If only Ace stepped up their quality control, and moved their production to USA. They could possibly be the best truck...ever.

+1 I'm crossing my fingers. If Ace can shape up, I'll probably alternate between thunder and ace till I die.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #523 on: November 07, 2016, 10:37:46 PM »
ha I think those are the only 2 trucks I'm gonna alternate from now for life, I mean probably gonna ride ace til death but if anything comes up thunder is always a top choice
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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #524 on: November 08, 2016, 02:51:35 PM »
44's really are perfect in width now that they're just a tiny bit more than 8.25. Don't notice any difference compared to Indy 149's.

If only Ace stepped up their quality control, and moved their production to USA. They could possibly be the best truck...ever.

And bring back mag plates/make a low in 8.25.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #525 on: November 08, 2016, 02:52:50 PM »
44's really are perfect in width now that they're just a tiny bit more than 8.25. Don't notice any difference compared to Indy 149's.

If only Ace stepped up their quality control, and moved their production to USA. They could possibly be the best truck...ever.

And bring back mag plates/make a low in 8.25.
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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #526 on: November 08, 2016, 04:21:33 PM »
44's really are perfect in width now that they're just a tiny bit more than 8.25. Don't notice any difference compared to Indy 149's.

If only Ace stepped up their quality control, and moved their production to USA. They could possibly be the best truck...ever.

And bring back mag plates/make a low in 8.25.
Anything else?
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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #527 on: November 08, 2016, 04:46:43 PM »
44's really are perfect in width now that they're just a tiny bit more than 8.25. Don't notice any difference compared to Indy 149's.

If only Ace stepped up their quality control, and moved their production to USA. They could possibly be the best truck...ever.

Isn't just over 8.25 a weird size?  Wouldn't 8.25 on the nose be better? 

I can see the quality becoming more consistent....made in the USA....never....

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« Reply #528 on: November 08, 2016, 06:40:18 PM »
44's really are perfect in width now that they're just a tiny bit more than 8.25. Don't notice any difference compared to Indy 149's.

If only Ace stepped up their quality control, and moved their production to USA. They could possibly be the best truck...ever.

Isn't just over 8.25 a weird size?  Wouldn't 8.25 on the nose be better? 

I can see the quality becoming more consistent....made in the USA....never....

ACE have weird sizing for sure.

They don't have a true 8" (it's like 7.866t2376457265473254 or some shit), 44s are 8.38 (so great for 8.125/8.25/8.38, but feel a bit narrow at the 8.5 range and 55s are too damn wide for anything under their real size.

There isn't enough market for them. Theeve are arguably a better truck from a manu pov and the V1/v2 feel the same as ACE do (prototype theeves ran ACE plates ;) If they weren't almost $200 bucks a set I'd ride the tih.

Indy and Thunder dominate their respective styles, they have a legacy and people are reluctant to try new shit.


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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #529 on: November 08, 2016, 08:39:12 PM »
44's really are perfect in width now that they're just a tiny bit more than 8.25. Don't notice any difference compared to Indy 149's.

If only Ace stepped up their quality control, and moved their production to USA. They could possibly be the best truck...ever.

Isn't just over 8.25 a weird size?  Wouldn't 8.25 on the nose be better? 

I can see the quality becoming more consistent....made in the USA....never....

ACE have weird sizing for sure.

They don't have a true 8" (it's like 7.866t2376457265473254 or some shit), 44s are 8.38 (so great for 8.125/8.25/8.38, but feel a bit narrow at the 8.5 range and 55s are too damn wide for anything under their real size.

There isn't enough market for them. Theeve are arguably a better truck from a manu pov and the V1/v2 feel the same as ACE do (prototype theeves ran ACE plates ;) If they weren't almost $200 bucks a set I'd ride the tih.

Indy and Thunder dominate their respective styles, they have a legacy and people are reluctant to try new shit.



Ha yeah it's true I got the 03 and they're supposed to be 7.875 or something but truthfully I compared them with my 147 hi and 139 low and they were basically the same length beside the 147 being just a hair longer

But hey the 03 fit perfectly on my 8.125 chocolate, on my old 8 girl it was a hair but hotdogging
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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #530 on: November 08, 2016, 09:15:38 PM »
does anyone here skate 8.25s with Ace 44s? that's what I'm thinking of trying out soon. currently have Indy 139s on an 8.25.

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« Reply #531 on: November 08, 2016, 09:30:53 PM »


ACE have weird sizing for sure.

They don't have a true 8" (it's like 7.866t2376457265473254 or some shit), 44s are 8.38 (so great for 8.125/8.25/8.38, but feel a bit narrow at the 8.5 range and 55s are too damn wide for anything under their real size.




Totally agree. something half way between a 44 and 55 would be nice. say an 8 5/8" axle...

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #532 on: November 08, 2016, 11:55:08 PM »
I just think the vast majority of boards go up by quarter inch increments.....why not trucks.....

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #533 on: November 09, 2016, 12:07:22 AM »
does anyone here skate 8.25s with Ace 44s? that's what I'm thinking of trying out soon. currently have Indy 139s on an 8.25.

Yes, it's perfect. I was riding 8.25 with Indy 149 before.
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« Reply #534 on: November 09, 2016, 08:31:16 AM »
does anyone here skate 8.25s with Ace 44s? that's what I'm thinking of trying out soon. currently have Indy 139s on an 8.25.

Yes, it's perfect. I was riding 8.25 with Indy 149 before.

good to hear. I was a little worried about that .13 mm extra but it's probably not even noticeable.

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« Reply #535 on: November 09, 2016, 12:13:27 PM »
does anyone here skate 8.25s with Ace 44s? that's what I'm thinking of trying out soon. currently have Indy 139s on an 8.25.

Yes, it's perfect. I was riding 8.25 with Indy 149 before.

good to hear. I was a little worried about that .13 mm extra but it's probably not even noticeable.

44s on an 8.25" are perfect.  A hair wider than 139/147/8" and enough under an 8.5" where you still don't see bolts sticking out.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #536 on: November 09, 2016, 03:09:04 PM »
I ran 44's on a 8.5 and it mildly annoyed me....

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« Reply #537 on: November 09, 2016, 03:21:22 PM »
I ran 44's on a 8.5 and it mildly annoyed me....

I am on a 8.375 deck phase right now and anything bigger with 44's does seem weird.
Anybody experienced this one? Here is my situation... Set up some 44's with Krux bushings top and bottom and I skate them wobbly loose (nut even with kingpin top, basically one turn) and randomly I get a back to front " jump" or hiccup where it feels like the hanger pops forward or backward. It's more noticeable rolling fakie. Kingpin not loose and nothing bent. Bad pivot cup?

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« Reply #538 on: November 09, 2016, 07:32:20 PM »
I ran 44's on a 8.5 and it mildly annoyed me....

I am on a 8.375 deck phase right now and anything bigger with 44's does seem weird.
Anybody experienced this one? Here is my situation... Set up some 44's with Krux bushings top and bottom and I skate them wobbly loose (nut even with kingpin top, basically one turn) and randomly I get a back to front " jump" or hiccup where it feels like the hanger pops forward or backward. It's more noticeable rolling fakie. Kingpin not loose and nothing bent. Bad pivot cup?

No, it's cause the hanger isn't securely locked into the baseplate all the way. Pull up on it with your hand and you'll see it slide up from the pivot point. That's how it goes with wobbly loose trucks.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #539 on: November 09, 2016, 07:33:05 PM »
I ran 44's on a 8.5 and it mildly annoyed me....

I am on a 8.375 deck phase right now and anything bigger with 44's does seem weird.
Anybody experienced this one? Here is my situation... Set up some 44's with Krux bushings top and bottom and I skate them wobbly loose (nut even with kingpin top, basically one turn) and randomly I get a back to front " jump" or hiccup where it feels like the hanger pops forward or backward. It's more noticeable rolling fakie. Kingpin not loose and nothing bent. Bad pivot cup?

went from thunder 149s to ace 44s, skate 8.5. I haven't noticed anything off in terms of truck width. How does it bother you guys?