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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #630 on: November 20, 2017, 06:33:50 AM »
Just an update for anyone that cares: Ace has now eliminated the curved hanger and they are straight just like every truck out there. The 3/8Ē axle nuts are no longer included on the trucks, either. Theyíre back to regular nylock axle nuts.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #631 on: November 20, 2017, 10:12:15 AM »
Having to buy a new set of trucks after leaving my board on a train so...I was wondering what bushings people would recommend if you couldn't get krux (seems to be slap's favourite, but I can't find them anywhere in the UK). On my last aces I had a bones medium on top and stock ace on the bottom which was fine but just seeing what others recommend. I'm tempted to try and just persevere with the stock bushings but its such a pain to break bushings in. Any suggestions welcomed!

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #632 on: November 20, 2017, 10:38:09 AM »
I tried a ton of different bushing setups on mine and by far the best have been stock Aces. It is indeed a bitch to break them in, but once you've done it, they're brilliant.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #633 on: November 20, 2017, 11:12:35 AM »
Having to buy a new set of trucks after leaving my board on a train so...

You need a new leash brah, not new bushings... but Krux if you insist.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #634 on: November 20, 2017, 01:08:27 PM »
Try this:
Put your new bushings into hot (almost boiling) water for 10mins, set up your trucks and go skate immediately (at least push around making turns). Your bushings should feel broken in right away.

Or make fun of me and hate your new bushings for weeks. Your choice.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #635 on: November 20, 2017, 08:41:10 PM »
indy super soft.  swerve immediately.

although i do have a stock top (nutside) that i sanded about a millimeter off of on the back for a little stability.

sanding bushings down is a nightmare though.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #636 on: November 20, 2017, 09:35:30 PM »
I found that ace stock bushings are the best bushings I have tried really, and I was also pleasantly surprised that “breaking them in” was nothing like other trucks. For me ace have been strange, everyone says they are squirrelly and loose but I found them to be more stable and predictable than Indy’s, amazing bushings and broken in within hours. By far the best trucks I have used, finally a truck I can just buy and use stock. I’m 6 foot 3 and 220lbs usually I have to put in hard bushings and tighten them down to get enough stability from Indy’s and I am running stock ace bushings with only one thread showing on the kingpin. So almost flush. Also the quality of ace bushings is definitely above the others. On stock Indy bushings you can see air bubbles and the edges are usually fraying a bit, but ace bushings have no fraying edges, no bubbles, it’s hard to describe but they seem to be way better quality. I think it’s fucking bullshit honestly that teams of engineers designing trucks still use shit bushings but will make them “1mm taller” or put a hollow kingpin in a cast baseplate. These guys could put in better bushings but I’m convinced they don’t so that bones bushings can market theirs.
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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #637 on: November 20, 2017, 11:18:22 PM »
If I wasn't using a krux top bushing, I'd be running the stock top instead of anything else. But the krux top is so worth it.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #638 on: November 21, 2017, 11:24:48 AM »
I weight about 210lbs and Krux bushings, although great quality, they gave me wheelbite galore on my Aceís. The trick I found is just keep their stock bottom bushing on with the stock bottom washer, and use any shorter top bushing of your liking. If you just keep the stock Ace top bushing on but remove the washer, it makes your board sound dead even if you tighten it down enough, therefore needing a different top bushing and washer comes into play. I use a black Indy hard for my top bushing on my Aceís and the washer rattles and spins while I ride and the sound alone gets me pumped. Itís crazy because with this combo I have hardly any wheelbite even though my back truck is loose as hell and my front even looser with a slight amount of hanger wobble and rattling washers.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #639 on: November 21, 2017, 08:52:20 PM »
  How come no ones doing the bones bushings in aces?  Thats what I put in there and they worked. (I'd still ride those but there bent)
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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #640 on: November 21, 2017, 10:24:22 PM »
Bones bushings are way too short and affect the geometry of Aceís. Even when I put a washer underneath the bottom bushing it was still shorter than the stock one without its washer. Bones work great if you donít care about the geometry and want insanely wobbly loose. I think Matt Rodriguez stopped cutting his bushings and just started using the Bones if my eyes saw correctly in a picture. I could see the plastic cores from the Bones bushings.

I also got insane wheelbite using Bones. Now, using a stock bottom bushing with a bones medium top worked great...until I slappied a dozen times and the top bones bushing shredded from the core. In general, I donít think Bones bushings are worth what you pay for. One of the most expensive bushings on the market and they separate from the core or deform easily unless you buy the hards, and those take awhile to break in. Pure urethane bushings are the way to go, just gotta find the right duro and shape that suits you.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #641 on: November 21, 2017, 11:07:10 PM »
  How come no ones doing the bones bushings in aces?  Thats what I put in there and they worked. (I'd still ride those but there bent)

I ran bones hards in my ACE lows, loved it once they broke in, ACES force bones hards to turn :)

I've also ran bones meds in aces with proper height washers, works fine...currently running mini logo softs in aces with washers (same height as stock) and it's great.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #642 on: November 22, 2017, 05:30:02 AM »
Do the axles still slip?

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #643 on: November 22, 2017, 06:29:41 AM »
Do the axles still slip?

I mostly do flip tricks, and Iíve never had the axles slip on my Aces fwiw.
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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #644 on: November 22, 2017, 06:39:45 AM »
Do the axles still slip?

I mostly do flip tricks, and Iíve never had the axles slip on my Aces fwiw.

Mine were caught slippin' after a month of use. Not the Indy throwback I had in mind.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #645 on: November 22, 2017, 07:45:57 AM »
Do the axles still slip?

I mostly do flip tricks, and Iíve never had the axles slip on my Aces fwiw.

Mine were caught slippin' after a month of use. Not the Indy throwback I had in mind.

Iím not gonna tell you how to spend your money, or to try out another pair, but Iíve skated 2 sets of 03ís, a set of 44ís and a set of 55ís with no issue. Mine were all purchased within the last year. Weíre you riding an older set?
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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #646 on: November 22, 2017, 07:57:19 AM »
Do the axles still slip?

I mostly do flip tricks, and I’ve never had the axles slip on my Aces fwiw.

Mine were caught slippin' after a month of use. Not the Indy throwback I had in mind.

I’m not gonna tell you how to spend your money, or to try out another pair, but I’ve skated 2 sets of 03’s, a set of 44’s and a set of 55’s with no issue. Mine were all purchased within the last year. We’re you riding an older set?

Over the years I've ridden 03s 33s 44s 55s 66s all with no slippage and only one set of [old] 44s bent, sent them in and asked for the set of '03s and they obliged.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #647 on: November 22, 2017, 08:52:26 AM »
I found that it wasn't flipping my board that caused axel slippage....it was not landing it.....

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #648 on: November 22, 2017, 11:19:04 AM »
Do the axles still slip?

I mostly do flip tricks, and Iíve never had the axles slip on my Aces fwiw.

Mine were caught slippin' after a month of use. Not the Indy throwback I had in mind.

Iím not gonna tell you how to spend your money, or to try out another pair, but Iíve skated 2 sets of 03ís, a set of 44ís and a set of 55ís with no issue. Mine were all purchased within the last year. Weíre you riding an older set?

Been at least three years so yes, definitely an older set. No one seems to sell them around here anymore, though.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #649 on: November 23, 2017, 02:39:46 AM »
Thanks for the help guys. Just going to keep everything stock

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #650 on: November 25, 2017, 11:54:06 AM »
On my current set up I have a bones soft top and stock ace on my front truck and old worn in indy brushings in the back truck. Works for me even though it looks strange :)

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #651 on: November 25, 2017, 12:32:00 PM »
Are Ace stock bushings anything similar to the stock Krux ones? I'm a huge fan of the latter

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #652 on: November 25, 2017, 03:06:49 PM »
Are Ace stock bushings anything similar to the stock Krux ones? I'm a huge fan of the latter

Same bottom barrel height, ACE tops are much taller than krux (and pretty much everything else); Krux are softer (and same duro top and bottom), ACE used to be different duros, not sure about now.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #653 on: November 25, 2017, 04:15:42 PM »
Are Ace stock bushings anything similar to the stock Krux ones? I'm a huge fan of the latter

Same bottom barrel height, ACE tops are much taller than krux (and pretty much everything else); Krux are softer (and same duro top and bottom), ACE used to be different duros, not sure about now.
Ohh okay, I like the sound of that. I know Krux and Indy stock bushings supposedly have the same duro but Krux are definitely harder. I'm most likely gonna pick up a new complete w/ Aces so I can't wait to see how they feel

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #654 on: November 25, 2017, 08:01:16 PM »
Thanks for the help guys. Just going to keep everything stock
I'm UK and pretty certain I got my krux from Amazon matey : EDIT Just seen postage, I didnt pay that much :(  https://www.amazon.co.uk/Skateboard-Accessories-Krux-Cushions-Bushings/dp/B01BWN3OCE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1511668659&sr=8-1&keywords=krux+bushings
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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #656 on: November 26, 2017, 04:44:47 PM »
I'm using the stock bottom bushing and a bones bottom bushing with the flat washer on top (roadside).  Fits/Works good.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #657 on: November 26, 2017, 06:47:08 PM »
If you loosen your sit a half a turn from stock you won't need to fuck with the bushings.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #658 on: November 29, 2017, 03:38:27 PM »
Been thinking about trying out aces for a while now. I'm currently having my semi annual truck/board size crisis and have been thinking about stepping back down to a 8 from an 8.25. I usually rock the indy aftermarket super soft bushings in any truck I ride. Anyone ever put them in aces? Also, anyone currently riding the 33s? I feel like i mostly see the 44s and up on here.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #659 on: November 29, 2017, 03:56:17 PM »
Been thinking about trying out aces for a while now. I'm currently having my semi annual truck/board size crisis and have been thinking about stepping back down to a 8 from an 8.25. I usually rock the indy aftermarket super soft bushings in any truck I ride. Anyone ever put them in aces? Also, anyone currently riding the 33s? I feel like i mostly see the 44s and up on here.

A few people I know skate the 33s on 7.75 or 8 inch boards but they're not gear nerds so don't have much of an opinion. 44s would work much better for 8.25 anyway. If you like the super soft bushings you might wanna get krux bushings.