yeah back to you guys being queer about the whole not spending 50 on pants thing. i know it's cool to support the real skate companies and all that shit, it's just a pain in the ass when i have to try and cut down on food just to get a new deck. if i somehow come upon a nice paycheck in the weeks to come, i wouldn't mind spending it on a pair of these pants. i'm just sayin' i can't outfit my wardrobe with more than like a single pair. fred rips, it's all good. i'll see if the dudes at nj can hook it up.