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« on: May 13, 2011, 06:55:28 PM »
i was gonna make this thread a while ago, but i totally forgot about it. here's a list of some of my favorite experimental albums and i'll also be posting videos, links, news, etc.

The Residents - Eskimo
Naked City - Self Titled
Boredoms - Vision Creation Newsun
Black Dice - Beaches & Canyons
Glenn Branca - The Ascension
Wolf Eyes - Burned Mind
Comus - First Utterance
Mouthus - Slow Globes
Nico - The Marble Index
Excepter - Alternation
No New York (No Wave Compilation)
Cerberus Shoal - Chaiming the Knoblessone
Negativland - Escape From Noise
No-Neck Blues Band - Intonomancy
The Dead C - Vain Erudite and Stupid: Selected Works 1987-2005
Friends Forever - Killball
Harry Pussy - Self Titled
Lou Reed - Metal Machine Music
Gang Gang Dance - God's Money
Neu! - Self Titled
Throbbing Gristle - 20 Jazz Funk Greats
Sightings - Arrived In Gold
Chrome - Half Machine Lip Moves
Joanna Newsom - Ys
Earth - Earth 2
Captain Beefheart - Trout Mask Replica
Jane - Berserker
Can - Tago Mago
Kites - Peace Trials
Sunn O))) - Black One
This Heat - Self Titled
Animal Collective - Here Comes The Indian
Faust - Self Titled
Sonic Youth - Confusion Is Sex
Merzbow - Metal Acoustic Music
Lighting Bolt - Ride The Skies
Whitehouse - New Britain
The Punks - Thank You For The Alternative rock
Einsturzende Neubauten - Kollaps
The Flying Luttenbachers - Infection & Decline
Nurse With Wound - Chance Meeting on a Dissecting Table of a Sewing Machine and an Umbrella
Hair Police - Constantly Terrified
Sleep - Dopesmoker
Mr. Bungle - California
Brian Eno - Ambient 1: Music for Airports
Smegma - The Mad Excitement, The Barbaric Pulsations, The Incomparable Rhythms Of...
Wooden Wand & The Vanishing Voice - The Flood
Yellow Swans - Bring The Neon War Home
Jackie-O Motherfucker - Change
Caroliner - Our American Heritage, Vol. 1
Growing - His Return

anything by John Cage, LaMonte Young, Steve Reich, Philip Glass & Terry Riley.
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Re: Experimental/Noise/Avant-Garde/Drone/Weird-O Thread
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2011, 07:05:23 PM »

























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« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2011, 12:18:52 PM »
i was gonna make this thread a while ago, but i totally forgot about it. here's a list of some of my favorite experimental albums and i'll also be posting videos, links, news, etc.

The Residents - Eskimo
Naked City - Self Titled
Boredoms - Vision Creation Newsun
Black Dice - Beaches & Canyons
Glenn Branca - The Ascension
Wolf Eyes - Burned Mind
Comus - First Utterance
Mouthus - Slow Globes
Nico - The Marble Index
Excepter - Alternation
No New York (No Wave Compilation)
Cerberus Shoal - Chaiming the Knoblessone
Negativland - Escape From Noise
No-Neck Blues Band - Intonomancy
The Dead C - Vain Erudite and Stupid: Selected Works 1987-2005
Friends Forever - Killball
Harry Pussy - Self Titled
Lou Reed - Metal Machine Music
Gang Gang Dance - God's Money
Neu! - Self Titled
Throbbing Gristle - 20 Jazz Funk Greats
Sightings - Arrived In Gold
Chrome - Half Machine Lip Moves
Joanna Newsom - Ys
Earth - Earth 2
Captain Beefheart - Trout Mask Replica
Jane - Berserker
Can - Tago Mago
Kites - Peace Trials
Sunn O))) - Black One
This Heat - Self Titled
Animal Collective - Here Comes The Indian
Faust - Self Titled
Sonic Youth - Confusion Is Sex
Merzbow - Metal Acoustic Music
Lighting Bolt - Ride The Skies
Whitehouse - New Britain
The Punks - Thank You For The Alternative rock
Einsturzende Neubauten - Kollaps
The Flying Luttenbachers - Infection & Decline
Nurse With Wound - Chance Meeting on a Dissecting Table of a Sewing Machine and an Umbrella
Hair Police - Constantly Terrified
Sleep - Dopesmoker
Mr. Bungle - California
Brian Eno - Ambient 1: Music for Airports
Smegma - The Mad Excitement, The Barbaric Pulsations, The Incomparable Rhythms Of...
Wooden Wand & The Vanishing Voice - The Flood
Yellow Swans - Bring The Neon War Home
Jackie-O Motherfucker - Change
Caroliner - Our American Heritage, Vol. 1
Growing - His Return

anything by John Cage, LaMonte Young, Steve Reich, Philip Glass & Terry Riley.

Tastes differ a bit of course but we have quite a few things in common. The Ascension is so fucking good.
Performed Guitar Trio with Rhys Chatham a few years ago, one of the biggest kick Ive had.

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Re: Experimental/Noise/Avant-Garde/Drone/Weird-O Thread
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2011, 04:46:20 PM »
Some of these is excellent shit. Some of it...emperor's new clothes type shit.

that said, I'll recommend a few things which you probably are familiar with, but...why not?

facemelters-
Tony Conrad - Early Minimalism, especially Four Violins
Richard Youngs - Advent
Arnold Dreyblatt - Nodal Excitations
Mainliner - Mellow Out
Oval - Ovalprocess
Purling Hiss - s/t
Albert Ayler - Spirits Rejoice
Sun City Girls - Torch Of The Mystics
shit, everything Sublime Frequencies puts out really. Group Inerane is fucking incredible especially.

also
1. this thread and the psych thread should probably be merged.
2. If you like Trout Mask Replica and don't have Lick My Decals Off, Baby, run don't walk.

hey myrrh, that's Incredible String Band in yer sig, yeah?

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Re: Experimental/Noise/Avant-Garde/Drone/Weird-O Thread
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2011, 05:14:58 PM »
^Noise is far from psychedelic. That said, this is some creepy stuff to listen to when you're high or tripping.


Hair Police. From 'Constantly Terrified'


Big fan of Lustmord. This collab is from an album based on that movie Stalker


Also, BASTARD NOISE
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« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2011, 05:40:24 PM »
Noise is pretty fucking psychedelic, dude. Not hippie psychedelic, but it's definitely supposed to make you see colors and shit. If you're making a fucking Venn diagram of this shit, the intersection would be pretty fucking large.

Also, dude who started this thread listed lots of psych bizz - Beefheart, Can, Boredoms (the record he listed in total psych), Neu!, Chrome, Earth, etc. etc. etc.

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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2011, 08:54:01 PM »
how to dress well? really?  :-[

leyland kirby
mat gustafsson & jim o'rourke  :P
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Re: Experimental/Noise/Avant-Garde/Drone/Weird-O Thread
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2011, 04:07:00 AM »
"Psychedelic" is such a broad and diluted term anyways with so many psych elements being incorporated into different kinds of music for better or worse. Either way:














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Re: Experimental/Noise/Avant-Garde/Drone/Weird-O Thread
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2011, 08:32:39 AM »
Some of these is excellent shit. Some of it...emperor's new clothes type shit.

that said, I'll recommend a few things which you probably are familiar with, but...why not?

facemelters-
Tony Conrad - Early Minimalism, especially Four Violins
Richard Youngs - Advent
Arnold Dreyblatt - Nodal Excitations
Mainliner - Mellow Out
Oval - Ovalprocess
Purling Hiss - s/t
Albert Ayler - Spirits Rejoice
Sun City Girls - Torch Of The Mystics
shit, everything Sublime Frequencies puts out really. Group Inerane is fucking incredible especially.

also
1. this thread and the psych thread should probably be merged.
2. If you like Trout Mask Replica and don't have Lick My Decals Off, Baby, run don't walk.

hey myrrh, that's Incredible String Band in yer sig, yeah?


Yup Incredible String Band it is!

When you play or are interested in certain kinds of experimental music you meet the "emperors new clothes" attitude quite a lot.
Lets say I go to a museum and see a piece of art I don't understand. Just because I don't have the necessary background to understand it, doesn't mean that its a bad piece of art. Some music doesn't make sense before you know a little about the ideas behind it.
Not to say I know that much, but I just think its too easy to dismiss stuff on that basis.

Not to be a dick but I have to disagree on the psychedelic too. A lot of experimental music can be labeled psychedelic such as Mainliner or Sun City Girls but I think few things are further from say Keith Rowe's intention than to make psychedelic music.

I love psychedelic music though!

Peon off Lick My Decals Off Baby is my favorite Beefheart song!
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Re: Experimental/Noise/Avant-Garde/Drone/Weird-O Thread
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« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2011, 11:05:02 AM »
Wow, most of the known ones were listed right off the bat.  I onbly have these to add-

Stalaggh: Projekt Misanthropia- this is a 35 minute track where the vocals are supposedly all done by mental patients.  This is REALLY hard to listen to stuff.  Unnerving.

Body Hammer: Jigoku- this is a friend of mine up in Maine.  This whole album (and band) is inspired by Tetsuo the Ironman.  Pretty cool stuff.

Khanate isn't necessarily noise, but Dubin's voice is certainly fucked.

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« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2011, 11:31:57 AM »
The only somewhat noise/avant-garde bands I listen to are Blut Aus Nord (but they're still obviously rooted in black metal) and Gnaw Their Tongues. Paysage d'Hiver is very good ambient music too.

And my buddy just told me about this band "Bull of Heaven" who releases a bunch of crazy experimental songs that reach up to two months in length. Yeah-two months.

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« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2011, 11:38:12 AM »
Oh yeah, Gnaw Their Tongues... forgot about them.  While they have the DUMBEST song titles ever, they make the ultimate haunted house music.

Here is my example of a GTT song title:

Alone, In Misery, I Vomited My Odorous Entrails Upon The Steaming Carcass Of Thine Opponent.

Fuck that.

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« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2011, 01:07:18 PM »
pretty funny :


(Early John Cage performing on television)
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Re: Experimental/Noise/Avant-Garde/Drone/Weird-O Thread
« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2011, 04:04:52 PM »
Some of these is excellent shit. Some of it...emperor's new clothes type shit.

that said, I'll recommend a few things which you probably are familiar with, but...why not?

facemelters-
Tony Conrad - Early Minimalism, especially Four Violins
Richard Youngs - Advent
Arnold Dreyblatt - Nodal Excitations
Mainliner - Mellow Out
Oval - Ovalprocess
Purling Hiss - s/t
Albert Ayler - Spirits Rejoice
Sun City Girls - Torch Of The Mystics
shit, everything Sublime Frequencies puts out really. Group Inerane is fucking incredible especially.

also
1. this thread and the psych thread should probably be merged.
2. If you like Trout Mask Replica and don't have Lick My Decals Off, Baby, run don't walk.

hey myrrh, that's Incredible String Band in yer sig, yeah?


Yup Incredible String Band it is!

When you play or are interested in certain kinds of experimental music you meet the "emperors new clothes" attitude quite a lot.
Lets say I go to a museum and see a piece of art I don't understand. Just because I don't have the necessary background to understand it, doesn't mean that its a bad piece of art. Some music doesn't make sense before you know a little about the ideas behind it.
Not to say I know that much, but I just think its too easy to dismiss stuff on that basis.

Not to be a dick but I have to disagree on the psychedelic too. A lot of experimental music can be labeled psychedelic such as Mainliner or Sun City Girls but I think few things are further from say Keith Rowe's intention than to make psychedelic music.

I love psychedelic music though!

Peon off Lick My Decals Off Baby is my favorite Beefheart song!

Thing is, I'm pretty familiar with 20 century composition from Stravinsky and Ives to Xenakis and Ligeti and beyond.
Lots of this shit is in the post-industrial realm, too, I know. I've been obsessed with music a long time and have read up on my read ups.
that said, there are a lot of perpertrators out there. if your line of bullshit is good and you can place your shit in the right "context",
you can shit out any kind of noise and have The Wire lick your asshole,
whether there's any musical content or not, whether you've really spent any time with your material or not,
whether you really give a fuck or not.
Is good music dismissed by the uninformed? Yes. Is bad music passed off as something real? Yep, that's also true.

And again, look at the two threads. Lots of overlap. Split hairs all you want - it's all the same people posting about lots of the same shit.
That said...two threads. Sure. Why not?

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« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2011, 05:16:18 PM »
Oh yeah, Gnaw Their Tongues... forgot about them.  While they have the DUMBEST song titles ever, they make the ultimate haunted house music.

Here is my example of a GTT song title:

Alone, In Misery, I Vomited My Odorous Entrails Upon The Steaming Carcass Of Thine Opponent.

Fuck that.

Haha. That's so true. Some of them are just absurd (i.e. "The Gnostic Ritual Consumption of Semen As Embodiment of Wounds Teared in The Soul"), but some I actually kind of like. Like, "My Body is Not a Vessel, Nor a Temple. It's a Repulsive Pile of Sickness" or "To All Slaves...a Song of False Hope." Since his music is so noise-y/ambient, I like to use the titles to create some sense of what the song is meant to do.

Oh! My favorite song titles are off of the album T.R.E.O.L.W.B., T.E.S.R.W.M.M.: "To Rend Each Other Like Wild Beasts, Till Earth Shall Reek With Midnight Massacre," "Then Shall They Come, Oh Master, Shrieking From Red Battle Fields to People Thy Dark Realms ," and "In Sullen Silence Stalks Forth Pestilence." Just fucking ridiculous.

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« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2011, 01:32:45 PM »
Some of these is excellent shit. Some of it...emperor's new clothes type shit.

that said, I'll recommend a few things which you probably are familiar with, but...why not?

facemelters-
Tony Conrad - Early Minimalism, especially Four Violins
Richard Youngs - Advent
Arnold Dreyblatt - Nodal Excitations
Mainliner - Mellow Out
Oval - Ovalprocess
Purling Hiss - s/t
Albert Ayler - Spirits Rejoice
Sun City Girls - Torch Of The Mystics
shit, everything Sublime Frequencies puts out really. Group Inerane is fucking incredible especially.

also
1. this thread and the psych thread should probably be merged.
2. If you like Trout Mask Replica and don't have Lick My Decals Off, Baby, run don't walk.

hey myrrh, that's Incredible String Band in yer sig, yeah?


Yup Incredible String Band it is!

When you play or are interested in certain kinds of experimental music you meet the "emperors new clothes" attitude quite a lot.
Lets say I go to a museum and see a piece of art I don't understand. Just because I don't have the necessary background to understand it, doesn't mean that its a bad piece of art. Some music doesn't make sense before you know a little about the ideas behind it.
Not to say I know that much, but I just think its too easy to dismiss stuff on that basis.

Not to be a dick but I have to disagree on the psychedelic too. A lot of experimental music can be labeled psychedelic such as Mainliner or Sun City Girls but I think few things are further from say Keith Rowe's intention than to make psychedelic music.

I love psychedelic music though!

Peon off Lick My Decals Off Baby is my favorite Beefheart song!

Thing is, I'm pretty familiar with 20 century composition from Stravinsky and Ives to Xenakis and Ligeti and beyond.
Lots of this shit is in the post-industrial realm, too, I know. I've been obsessed with music a long time and have read up on my read ups.
that said, there are a lot of perpertrators out there. if your line of bullshit is good and you can place your shit in the right "context",
you can shit out any kind of noise and have The Wire lick your asshole,
whether there's any musical content or not, whether you've really spent any time with your material or not,
whether you really give a fuck or not.
Is good music dismissed by the uninformed? Yes. Is bad music passed off as something real? Yep, that's also true.

And again, look at the two threads. Lots of overlap. Split hairs all you want - it's all the same people posting about lots of the same shit.
That said...two threads. Sure. Why not?

I think we agree more than I first thought.
Agree on the Wire. Worst of it all was the whole Hypnagogic Pop thing, some good  acts for sure but for me about 90 % is bullshit.
Just out of curiosity what were you referring to? the emperors new clothes stuff.

one or two threads is not so important to me. Most psychedelic music is experimental, but experimental music isn't necessarily psychedelic. That was more my point.

Tried to make a list myself, but its hard.. Maybe later.

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« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2011, 05:44:27 PM »
how to dress well? really?  :-[

leyland kirby
gustafsson o'rourke
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i don't consider How To Dress Well, Fever Ray or Grinderman to be avant-garde or anything, but i thought this thread could also be a place to share out-there videos or whatever.

(i'm psyched that a lot of you guys are into weird shit and contributing. i was afraid that this thread was just gonna fade away and be ignored.)

and myrrh, thanks for mentioning Sun City Girls. i can't believe i left them out.

 :-[

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Re: Experimental/Noise/Avant-Garde/Drone/Weird-O Thread
« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2011, 07:54:14 PM »
Demdike Stare - all of the stuff released under this moniker should be compulsory listening for anyone reading this thread

Andy Stott's new release, Passed Me By. Cop it.

Tim Hecker

The better Autchre albums will send your brain off on some pretty splintery journeys when listened to as wholes (LP5, Untitled, Amber, Tri-Repetae Quaristice, Incanubula)



Rad thread btw.
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« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2011, 11:15:03 PM »
^^^

andy stott - dark details. dat shit techno doh. modern love label is good. i group them with werk discs, horizontal ground, etc. prehistoric frequency-fucked futurism as i read on fact recently. seems fitting.



no worries smokecrack

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« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2011, 07:53:37 AM »




And Alva Noto is pretty incredible. I saw him play a live set at Bloc festival a couple of months ago and it was like being pressure washed from the inside out by something like an analogue of liquid diamonds (fag).
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« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2011, 08:08:53 AM »
Definitely need to throw in some Fuck Buttons

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« Reply #25 on: May 18, 2011, 11:35:14 AM »
Pretty much everything on skin graft records...

Kraut rock ?

Here's a fun torrent with a long OOP book in it... super hard to find.

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4160886/12_essential_Krautrock_albums_%28_Krautrocksampler_by_Julian_Cope%29

Harmonia rules (members of Neu! and Cluster)


Arab On Radar


Yowie (good st. louis band)


Silver Apples (Almost earlier than Kraftwerk/Suicide)



I know it's Jazz, but lots of noise is inspired by Jazz... so some Pharoah Sanders for fun


Muslimguaze


I loves me some noise/experimental

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« Reply #26 on: May 18, 2011, 01:06:19 PM »
Cheer-Accident -- Salad Days
My favorite album by them, all (5+) are good though


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« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2011, 12:54:19 AM »
I'm not sure if they've been mentioned but Peaking Lights is a fairly experimental band.


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« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2011, 03:02:39 PM »
It was actually Dude Dudestofferson who mentioned the Sun City Girls first, not me.

Anyone into Keiji Haino? Seen Him solo Two times and once with Fushitsusha all three times very good.


This Yoko Ono album is so good :