ROMNEY V. OBAMA

[HairyCunt]

Regardless of the company the young Mr. al-Awlaki (or his father for that matter) may have kept, should he not have been indicted by a Grand Jury rather than a Hellfire missle? And what kind of precedent is set here?

That said, how can Romney possibly compete with this?

https://store.barackobama.com/runway-to-win.html

Marc Jacobs dog tees for victory!

Remember, Mitt's the guy who lost to the guy who lost to Obama. Barry's gonna dunk this one.

A Hellfire missile is all the jury needed for Al Qaeda.  Are you nuts??? Just think how ridiculous it sounds to suggest a grand jury indictment.  What planet are you living on?

[Beer Keg Peg Leg]

One where due process should be upheld as a matter of moral principle?

[HairyCunt]

One where due process should be upheld as a matter of moral principle?

Oh, fantasy land. Due process does not apply to members of a global terrorist network, that seek to destroy such principles. It's easier to deal with them right away.

[Beer Keg Peg Leg]

it's okay, i wouldn't expect you to understand what a moral principle is.

[HairyCunt]

it's okay, i wouldn't expect you to understand what a moral principle is.

It's okay I wouldn't expect you to understand how the world works.

[Beer Keg Peg Leg]

You realize that abandoning due process and waging illegal wars against 'terrorist networks' does nothing but engender even more anger towards the west? You are a fucking idiot and I guarantee I have more understanding of the world in my smegma than you will ever have in your whole life.

[HairyCunt]

You realize that abandoning due process and waging illegal wars against 'terrorist networks' does nothing but engender even more anger towards the west? You are a fucking idiot and I guarantee I have more understanding of the world in my smegma than you will ever have in your whole life.

Sorry but you clearly don't, hence the cliched train of thought above. Are you in grade ten, regurgitating what your world issues teacher has told you? No need for the personal attacks either.

[Beer Keg Peg Leg]

You're right, regular people should not be held to the same standard as those who are mentally capable of intelligent political discussion, I apologize for calling you a fucking idiot.

Let me paint this in terms you might understand. Your family lives next to a very bad man. He does bad things all the time and has very ugly brown skin, a beard, and wears a very unusual and sinister hat. Your family doesn't like living next to him but there isn't much they can do about it. Your government decides that he is so bad that he must be killed instead of taken into custody, and so they drop a big bomb on him that goes BOOM. Your entire family is killed in the resulting explosion. Would you not be very very mad at your government? Would you not be tempted to partake in some RADICAL behavior to achieve retribution?

This 'cliched train of thought' is so absurdly obvious that it takes a very special kind of intellectual handicap to dismiss it as anything but a self-evident truth.

[HairyCunt]

You're right, regular people should not be held to the same standard as those who are mentally capable of intelligent political discussion, I apologize for calling you a fucking idiot.

Let me paint this in terms you might understand. Your family lives next to a very bad man. He does bad things all the time and has very ugly brown skin, a beard, and wears a very unusual and sinister hat. Your family doesn't like living next to him but there isn't much they can do about it. Your government decides that he is so bad that he must be killed instead of taken into custody, and so they drop a big bomb on him that goes BOOM. Your entire family is killed in the resulting explosion. Would you not be very very mad at your government? Would you not be tempted to partake in some RADICAL behavior to achieve retribution?

This 'cliched train of thought' is so absurdly obvious that it takes a very special kind of intellectual handicap to dismiss it as anything but a self-evident truth.

You love Michael Moore don't you? You sound like you do at least.

Well for all the retributory attacks that resulted from the 25 000 civilians killed in Dresden, the over 70 000 killed in Nagasaki, 100 000 killed in Hiroshima, 400 in My Lai, your idea of a self evident truth doesn't hold up well does it? 


Your example is incoherent, firstly what's with the ugly brown skin remark?? Secondly, my government doesn't attack it's own country with hellfire missiles and if it did I would be doing everything I could to leave. At this point would I be tempted to partake in radical behaviour? Who knows, it's not worth contemplating such absurd hypothetical situations. 

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You're right, regular people should not be held to the same standard as those who are mentally capable of intelligent political discussion, I apologize for calling you a fucking idiot.

Let me paint this in terms you might understand. Your family lives next to a very bad man. He does bad things all the time and has very ugly brown skin, a beard, and wears a very unusual and sinister hat. Your family doesn't like living next to him but there isn't much they can do about it. Your government decides that he is so bad that he must be killed instead of taken into custody, and so they drop a big bomb on him that goes BOOM. Your entire family is killed in the resulting explosion. Would you not be very very mad at your government? Would you not be tempted to partake in some RADICAL behavior to achieve retribution?

This 'cliched train of thought' is so absurdly obvious that it takes a very special kind of intellectual handicap to dismiss it as anything but a self-evident truth.

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You love Michael Moore don't you? You sound like you do at least.

Well for all the retributory attacks that resulted from the 25 000 civilians killed in Dresden, the over 70 000 killed in Nagasaki, 100 000 killed in Hiroshima, 400 in My Lai, your idea of a self evident truth doesn't hold up well does it? 

All of those things took place when the US and the countries in question were at war with each other; they were also single incidents in pre-defined conflicts, rather than a 50 + year campaign of political/economic manipulation and helping dictators. Plus, Japan and Germany were both much more politically stable than Afghanistan in the years after WWII, no? The reason Vietnam isn't sending suicide bombers right now is because their rebellion was successful.

It's just more simplistic conclusions and weak argument from you Harry. You have a blind spot on this issue so obvious that no amount of Micheal Moore jabs could cover it up.

[FART BOY]

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it's okay, i wouldn't expect you to understand what a moral principle is.

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It's okay I wouldn't expect you to understand how the world works.

Why are you such a dipshit? Give me an honest answer.

[Sleazy]

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every since obama won we've been heading in a better direction

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Like drone bombing assassinations of US citizen minors?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul-Rahman_al-Awlaki

You kids should stick to analyzing foot placements on flip trick landings, retro board graphics and sneaker colorways because the overall level of political ignorance in here is just appalling.

count down to 911 conspiracy

5, 4, 3...

[HairyCunt]

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You're right, regular people should not be held to the same standard as those who are mentally capable of intelligent political discussion, I apologize for calling you a fucking idiot.

Let me paint this in terms you might understand. Your family lives next to a very bad man. He does bad things all the time and has very ugly brown skin, a beard, and wears a very unusual and sinister hat. Your family doesn't like living next to him but there isn't much they can do about it. Your government decides that he is so bad that he must be killed instead of taken into custody, and so they drop a big bomb on him that goes BOOM. Your entire family is killed in the resulting explosion. Would you not be very very mad at your government? Would you not be tempted to partake in some RADICAL behavior to achieve retribution?

This 'cliched train of thought' is so absurdly obvious that it takes a very special kind of intellectual handicap to dismiss it as anything but a self-evident truth.

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You love Michael Moore don't you? You sound like you do at least.

Well for all the retributory attacks that resulted from the 25 000 civilians killed in Dresden, the over 70 000 killed in Nagasaki, 100 000 killed in Hiroshima, 400 in My Lai, your idea of a self evident truth doesn't hold up well does it? 

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All of those things took place when the US and the countries in question were at war with each other; they were also single incidents in pre-defined conflicts, rather than a 50 + year campaign of political/economic manipulation and helping dictators. Plus, Japan and Germany were both much more politically stable than Afghanistan in the years after WWII, no? The reason Vietnam isn't sending suicide bombers right now is because their rebellion was successful.

It's just more simplistic conclusions and weak argument from you Harry. You have a blind spot on this issue so obvious that no amount of Micheal Moore jabs could cover it up.

The nature of war is constantly changing, Al Qaeda is a different enemy that operates in many countries, that are often not equipped to deal with it.  My argument is hardly weak it proves that the bombing of civilians does not engender retributory radical violence.  Do you think the a person who's family has been just killed would really be thinking "hmmm, well the war is legal"?   

Why do you think Japan and Germany were more stable after the war? 

It is naive to think that organizations like Al Qaeda, Al Shabab, Boko Haram, AQIM etc are protectors of their people against foreign imperialism and that they are a reaction against a so called "50+ year campaign of economic/political manipulation", and if ended they would cease their operations.

[Fairy Boy]

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You're right, regular people should not be held to the same standard as those who are mentally capable of intelligent political discussion, I apologize for calling you a fucking idiot.

Let me paint this in terms you might understand. Your family lives next to a very bad man. He does bad things all the time and has very ugly brown skin, a beard, and wears a very unusual and sinister hat. Your family doesn't like living next to him but there isn't much they can do about it. Your government decides that he is so bad that he must be killed instead of taken into custody, and so they drop a big bomb on him that goes BOOM. Your entire family is killed in the resulting explosion. Would you not be very very mad at your government? Would you not be tempted to partake in some RADICAL behavior to achieve retribution?

This 'cliched train of thought' is so absurdly obvious that it takes a very special kind of intellectual handicap to dismiss it as anything but a self-evident truth.

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You love Michael Moore don't you? You sound like you do at least.

Well for all the retributory attacks that resulted from the 25 000 civilians killed in Dresden, the over 70 000 killed in Nagasaki, 100 000 killed in Hiroshima, 400 in My Lai, your idea of a self evident truth doesn't hold up well does it? 

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All of those things took place when the US and the countries in question were at war with each other; they were also single incidents in pre-defined conflicts, rather than a 50 + year campaign of political/economic manipulation and helping dictators. Plus, Japan and Germany were both much more politically stable than Afghanistan in the years after WWII, no? The reason Vietnam isn't sending suicide bombers right now is because their rebellion was successful.

It's just more simplistic conclusions and weak argument from you Harry. You have a blind spot on this issue so obvious that no amount of Micheal Moore jabs could cover it up.

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The nature of war is constantly changing, Al Qaeda is a different enemy that operates in many countries, that are often not equipped to deal with it.  My argument is hardly weak it proves that the bombing of civilians does not engender retributory radical violence.  Do you think the a person who's family has been just killed would really be thinking "hmmm, well the war is legal"?   

Why do you think Japan and Germany were more stable after the war? 

It is naive to think that organizations like Al Qaeda, Al Shabab, Boko Haram, AQIM etc are protectors of their people against foreign imperialism and that they are a reaction against a so called "50+ year campaign of economic/political manipulation", and if ended they would cease their operations.

If the nature of war is constantly changing, why must the reactions of those involved remain static? You can't claim on one hand that 'war is different now', and on the other claim 'those guys didnt fight back, so neither will these guys'. I don't have evidence one way or the other, but you haven't presented any either.

As for the last paragraph, what is so naive about that, save for the last clause? I'll agree you can't stop a train with that much momentum, but I fail to see why the creation of such groups couldn't be a direct result of the injustices they've felt.

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You're right, regular people should not be held to the same standard as those who are mentally capable of intelligent political discussion, I apologize for calling you a fucking idiot.

Let me paint this in terms you might understand. Your family lives next to a very bad man. He does bad things all the time and has very ugly brown skin, a beard, and wears a very unusual and sinister hat. Your family doesn't like living next to him but there isn't much they can do about it. Your government decides that he is so bad that he must be killed instead of taken into custody, and so they drop a big bomb on him that goes BOOM. Your entire family is killed in the resulting explosion. Would you not be very very mad at your government? Would you not be tempted to partake in some RADICAL behavior to achieve retribution?

This 'cliched train of thought' is so absurdly obvious that it takes a very special kind of intellectual handicap to dismiss it as anything but a self-evident truth.

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You love Michael Moore don't you? You sound like you do at least.

Well for all the retributory attacks that resulted from the 25 000 civilians killed in Dresden, the over 70 000 killed in Nagasaki, 100 000 killed in Hiroshima, 400 in My Lai, your idea of a self evident truth doesn't hold up well does it? 

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All of those things took place when the US and the countries in question were at war with each other; they were also single incidents in pre-defined conflicts, rather than a 50 + year campaign of political/economic manipulation and helping dictators. Plus, Japan and Germany were both much more politically stable than Afghanistan in the years after WWII, no? The reason Vietnam isn't sending suicide bombers right now is because their rebellion was successful.

It's just more simplistic conclusions and weak argument from you Harry. You have a blind spot on this issue so obvious that no amount of Micheal Moore jabs could cover it up.

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The nature of war is constantly changing, Al Qaeda is a different enemy that operates in many countries, that are often not equipped to deal with it. 

Nice soundbite, dude. If you read it real close though you'll realize that it has nothing to do with the point we were arguing.

Why do I think that Japan and Germany were more stable after WWII? Because both were occupied immediately after it ended and swiftly transitioned into social democracies with booming economies, or in the case of E. Germany, totalitarianism under the USSR. Neither country had been subject to imperial rule beforehand either. Vietnam rebelled against France without the influence of Islam, but again, you're probably just trying to imply that they were more stable because they weren't Islamic countries, like a good little young republican.

 I really suggest you read a fucking history book Harry, you may learn something about "how the world works".

 

[UgolinoTheSignificant]

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They are both controlled by the same corporations!! Green Party all the way!!

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VOTE JILL STEIN. LET"S GET HER SILVER BUSH IN OFFICE CAUSE FUCK IT WHY NOT. AND WEED.

[HairyCunt]

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You're right, regular people should not be held to the same standard as those who are mentally capable of intelligent political discussion, I apologize for calling you a fucking idiot.

Let me paint this in terms you might understand. Your family lives next to a very bad man. He does bad things all the time and has very ugly brown skin, a beard, and wears a very unusual and sinister hat. Your family doesn't like living next to him but there isn't much they can do about it. Your government decides that he is so bad that he must be killed instead of taken into custody, and so they drop a big bomb on him that goes BOOM. Your entire family is killed in the resulting explosion. Would you not be very very mad at your government? Would you not be tempted to partake in some RADICAL behavior to achieve retribution?

This 'cliched train of thought' is so absurdly obvious that it takes a very special kind of intellectual handicap to dismiss it as anything but a self-evident truth.

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You love Michael Moore don't you? You sound like you do at least.

Well for all the retributory attacks that resulted from the 25 000 civilians killed in Dresden, the over 70 000 killed in Nagasaki, 100 000 killed in Hiroshima, 400 in My Lai, your idea of a self evident truth doesn't hold up well does it?  

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All of those things took place when the US and the countries in question were at war with each other; they were also single incidents in pre-defined conflicts, rather than a 50 + year campaign of political/economic manipulation and helping dictators. Plus, Japan and Germany were both much more politically stable than Afghanistan in the years after WWII, no? The reason Vietnam isn't sending suicide bombers right now is because their rebellion was successful.

It's just more simplistic conclusions and weak argument from you Harry. You have a blind spot on this issue so obvious that no amount of Micheal Moore jabs could cover it up.

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The nature of war is constantly changing, Al Qaeda is a different enemy that operates in many countries, that are often not equipped to deal with it. 

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Nice soundbite, dude. If you read it real close though you'll realize that it has nothing to do with the point we were arguing.

Why do I think that Japan and Germany were more stable after WWII? Because both were occupied immediately after it ended and swiftly transitioned into social democracies with booming economies, or in the case of E. Germany, totalitarianism under the USSR. Neither country had been subject to imperial rule beforehand either. Vietnam rebelled against France without the influence of Islam, but again, you're probably just trying to imply that they were more stable because they weren't Islamic countries, like a good little young republican.

 I really suggest you read a fucking history book Harry, you may learn something about "how the world works".

 

You took the bait and contradicted yourself. Fool.  

[Lenny the Fatface]

Just talked to my psychic Jerome today and I got political spoilers!


Spoilers

- Obama wins by a closer than expected margin, gives Americans realistic expectations this time around.

- The branches give up on the political stalemate for now and try to actually fix the economy.  They will start beefing again when its time to fix our public education system.

- 2013 and 2014 will be huge blows for social conservatives as the generational gap increases and its accepted that its a matter of time before the ideology dies completely.  Fiscal conservatives will blame the Tea Party for giving kooks a bigger voice.

- A modified version of the online piracy act will get approved, so download all your random Curren$y albums while you can.

- Joe Biden gets a weird haircut.

[Sleazy]

good list

[chockfullofthat]

No mention of the fourse horsemen of the apocalypse?  What kind of liberal-biased psychic have you got there!?  You realize what year it is? 

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I JUST FINISHED ATLAS SHRUGGED WHO WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IT

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I JUST FINISHED ATLAS SHRUGGED WHO WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IT

prolly paul ryan lol

[pesto166]

lol!
Romney calls Ryan the next president

Barack Obama: The Next PRESIDENT Is Joe Biden!

[Dontkickshitfoot]

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I JUST FINISHED ATLAS SHRUGGED WHO WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IT

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prolly paul ryan lol

haha good stuff

[Lenny the Fatface]

No mention of the fourse horsemen of the apocalypse?  What kind of liberal-biased psychic have you got there!?  You realize what year it is? 

Lol Jerome never lies nigga!!!

Actually I really do believe that even though this election is boring as fuck, a Romney loss will do a lot of damage to the current right wing core.  They spent a lot of time and money towards being combative to any sort of progress for the sake of making Obama a one term president no matter what. I think in party strife will cause the right wing to go through some gnarly soul searching and will ultimately realize that they can no longer grow as a party by manipulating lower and middle class whites with convoluted racial and religious rhetoric.

What I find more interesting is what will become of the issues that were swept under the rug this year due to it being a political season (Piracy laws, the gun debates, institutional racism and self defense).

[thunderwood]

I wish I could hibernate and/or move out of the U.S. during election years.  I can't read the newspaper/watch tv/read magazines/internet without being bombarded with propaganda.  I feel bad for the other countries that have to deal with the overseas campaign as well.

[ice nine]

people pay attention sure, but its not much.I'm in canada 5 mins from the border and no one talks about it, and it gets as much coverage as the middle east conflicts.it'll ramp up right before the election obviously, but we have our own bullshit to worry about.as a sidenote, u r a terrible poster.

[HairyCunt]

people pay attention sure, but its not much.I'm in canada 5 mins from the border and no one talks about it, and it gets as much coverage as the middle east conflicts.it'll ramp up right before the election obviously, but we have our own bullshit to worry about.as a sidenote, u r a terrible poster.

LOL No one gives a shit about Canada!

[David]

Mr. Nobody for President

[SUPERNAUT]

I'm so sick of all these ignorant motherfuckers on my facebook feed bashing obama as if they knew anything about politics. Go read or watch the news for once, then form an opinion.