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Re: Hardcore Thread
« Reply #510 on: January 23, 2018, 07:03:35 AM »
If you're going to make a documentary about your band, and I think Weekend Nachos safely warranted one, I don't see why there should be a time limit around when you're doing it. Raw Nerve did one about their last two weeks as a band. Both documentaries were just goofy fun to celebrate the band, it's no biggie.

Hahahaha, that Harm's Way story is amazing. And yeah they're not my cup of tea at all, but their first release, I think it was called imprisoned, was decent.

Duress were cool. I remember they had a wee beef with a band called poison planet, detailed at the beginning of this video





Icanthelpit, what bands have you been in?

Raw Nerve are playing a reunited (this is actually the 2nd, one was to raise money for Puerto Rico, and this one os for an old friend who is hosting the final chapter of their fest in OK) and final show in early March. I'm tight homies with 3/5 of RN. Excited to see them the last time and it's gonna be nuts. Duress will more than likely be remembered most for wrecking DIY show spots (in the wrong way), preaching "Hardcore needs more violence" boneheadery and flying some white power flag out of their tour van to be edgelord/offensive. Music was sick though. People hated Poison Planet for being hardline and sjw before it took the internet by storm. Poison Planet was sick though, i think the songer developed their own tabletop RPG. Noose was sick too but i think there was some sketch with the guitarist, although I'm not sure in relation to what. Chicago consistently has great punk and hardcore bands coming out and usually always has.

Chicago is one of the best scenes in the world.

Anyway, what's up with Ryan Lowry? Gimme the goss.

I don't really know all the dirts other than they generally get the gasface for being a problematic assface.

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« Reply #511 on: January 29, 2018, 05:12:25 PM »
Standard vegan straight edge Hardcore band stuff: Vocalist's an entitled, meat head douche who often attempted to bully other bands, audience members, and organizers, leaving them with difficulty getting shows. Basic wannabe Hardline kookery. There were also unfound rumors of, lets just say "FAR RIGHT" leanings, though knowing 2 of the other dudes in the band, I find that unlikely.

I (think) I saw them once and (I think) I remember their singer not being white, so "FAR RIGHT" rumors seem bizarre. I'm hesitant to bring it up because small scene rumors about pretty standard bands make me feel silly.

Speaking of Chicago, I finally got around to listening to the new Racetraitor EP and it delivers! Pissed and dark and punishing. I think this band's sound and politics were both ahead of their time and quintessentially 90s. As such, this reboot release sounds like classic Racetraitor and fits right in with the current political climate.

https://racetraitor-hc.bandcamp.com/album/invisible-battles-against-invisible-fortresses

For those unfamiliar, this is the drummer from Fall Out Boy's old (and current again) political metalcore band. No joke.

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« Reply #512 on: January 30, 2018, 01:20:16 PM »
Former guitarist for expire, now the singer for Stone called out for numerous sexual assaults, since then stone has been dropped from their next couple tours and seems to be breaking up, also there are allegations coming out against members of terror, which looks like it may lead to them being removed from the tour as well.
https://www.altpress.com/news/entry/expire_stone_zach_dear_sexual_misconduct_allegations
https://zachdeariscancelled.tumblr.com
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« Reply #513 on: February 04, 2018, 07:47:56 AM »
Former guitarist for expire, now the singer for Stone called out for numerous sexual assaults, since then stone has been dropped from their next couple tours and seems to be breaking up, also there are allegations coming out against members of terror, which looks like it may lead to them being removed from the tour as well.
https://www.altpress.com/news/entry/expire_stone_zach_dear_sexual_misconduct_allegations
https://zachdeariscancelled.tumblr.com
There have been rumors of a few guys in that “crew” being creeps, so I guess I’m not shocked. They’re also kooks regardless and their music is trash. I saw Stone once and it was literally as if I was in some weird alternate reality based on a random outsider’s perception of what Hardcore is, from the music to the choreography.

I mean, listen to this shit (also note the guitar player’s Coal Chamber t-shirt OMG ironic!):


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« Reply #514 on: February 04, 2018, 08:42:54 AM »
Standard vegan straight edge Hardcore band stuff: Vocalist's an entitled, meat head douche who often attempted to bully other bands, audience members, and organizers, leaving them with difficulty getting shows. Basic wannabe Hardline kookery. There were also unfound rumors of, lets just say "FAR RIGHT" leanings, though knowing 2 of the other dudes in the band, I find that unlikely.

I (think) I saw them once and (I think) I remember their singer not being white, so "FAR RIGHT" rumors seem bizarre. I'm hesitant to bring it up because small scene rumors about pretty standard bands make me feel silly.

Speaking of Chicago, I finally got around to listening to the new Racetraitor EP and it delivers! Pissed and dark and punishing. I think this band's sound and politics were both ahead of their time and quintessentially 90s. As such, this reboot release sounds like classic Racetraitor and fits right in with the current political climate.

https://racetraitor-hc.bandcamp.com/album/invisible-battles-against-invisible-fortresses

For those unfamiliar, this is the drummer from Fall Out Boy's old (and current again) political metalcore band. No joke.
I never liked racetraitor. Too much reactionary preaching that didn’t seem genuine over music that was pretty standard for the time. Also “Burn the Idol of the White Messiah” may be the worst album title of all time (“Wow! They don’t like white people! Super edgy!”). Basically they were a suburban, Metalcore, dickhead, Islam influenced, novelty obsessed version of Los Crudos (one of my favorite bands and in my opinion one of the most important hardcore bands ever).

That said, Andy has always been cool, and I still see him out and about from time to time, not really at shows though. Last show I saw him at he was playing with that shit band Enabler band who like the band in the previous post, had a vocalist who was a scum bag waste of life.

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« Reply #515 on: February 05, 2018, 12:29:08 AM »
Hey IcanthelpitIrippedofFinland, fuck off you elitist prick. 
Harm's Way is damn great, been a fan for a while now. Super stoked for their new album that comes out next week:

Sounds like a good mix between Isolation and Rust, groovy and heavy.
I really want to catch them on tour soon.

I'm also really into Vein. latelly. They're mental!

Cant wait for a full release.

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« Reply #516 on: February 06, 2018, 12:29:40 PM »
Standard vegan straight edge Hardcore band stuff: Vocalist's an entitled, meat head douche who often attempted to bully other bands, audience members, and organizers, leaving them with difficulty getting shows. Basic wannabe Hardline kookery. There were also unfound rumors of, lets just say "FAR RIGHT" leanings, though knowing 2 of the other dudes in the band, I find that unlikely.

I (think) I saw them once and (I think) I remember their singer not being white, so "FAR RIGHT" rumors seem bizarre. I'm hesitant to bring it up because small scene rumors about pretty standard bands make me feel silly.

Speaking of Chicago, I finally got around to listening to the new Racetraitor EP and it delivers! Pissed and dark and punishing. I think this band's sound and politics were both ahead of their time and quintessentially 90s. As such, this reboot release sounds like classic Racetraitor and fits right in with the current political climate.

https://racetraitor-hc.bandcamp.com/album/invisible-battles-against-invisible-fortresses

For those unfamiliar, this is the drummer from Fall Out Boy's old (and current again) political metalcore band. No joke.
I never liked racetraitor. Too much reactionary preaching that didn’t seem genuine over music that was pretty standard for the time. Also “Burn the Idol of the White Messiah” may be the worst album title of all time (“Wow! They don’t like white people! Super edgy!”). Basically they were a suburban, Metalcore, dickhead, Islam influenced, novelty obsessed version of Los Crudos (one of my favorite bands and in my opinion one of the most important hardcore bands ever).

That said, Andy has always been cool, and I still see him out and about from time to time, not really at shows though. Last show I saw him at he was playing with that shit band Enabler band who like the band in the previous post, had a vocalist who was a scum bag waste of life.

I remember reading a long interview in (I'm pretty sure it was...) Heartattack zine, with Racetraitor and got the record without having heard them before. Listened once and filed away. I agree 100% with Crudos being the most important band of the 90s. Martin is such a genuinely nice guy. Ebro too. Crudos, Spazz, Rorschach, M.I.T.B, Born Against, Copout, HHIG, held me down in the 90s.

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« Reply #517 on: February 06, 2018, 09:28:36 PM »
I agree 100% with Crudos being the most important band of the 90s. Martin is such a genuinely nice guy. Ebro too. Crudos, Spazz, Rorschach, M.I.T.B, Born Against, Copout, HHIG, held me down in the 90s.
Propagandhi tho!

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« Reply #518 on: February 07, 2018, 12:02:42 PM »
I agree 100% with Crudos being the most important band of the 90s. Martin is such a genuinely nice guy. Ebro too. Crudos, Spazz, Rorschach, M.I.T.B, Born Against, Copout, HHIG, held me down in the 90s.
Propagandhi tho!

I never have and never will pledge allegiance. Now that I'm reading this I'm reminded to check out their newest album right now. Hope its shreddy.

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« Reply #519 on: February 08, 2018, 04:44:15 PM »
I agree 100% with Crudos being the most important band of the 90s. Martin is such a genuinely nice guy. Ebro too. Crudos, Spazz, Rorschach, M.I.T.B, Born Against, Copout, HHIG, held me down in the 90s.
Propagandhi tho!

I never have and never will pledge allegiance. Now that I'm reading this I'm reminded to check out their newest album right now. Hope its shreddy.
hahaha! definitely worth it. Like many of their new albums it's a creeper. Failed states is still better imho but there is some great songs on there

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« Reply #520 on: February 10, 2018, 01:44:06 PM »
I agree 100% with Crudos being the most important band of the 90s. Martin is such a genuinely nice guy. Ebro too. Crudos, Spazz, Rorschach, M.I.T.B, Born Against, Copout, HHIG, held me down in the 90s.
Propagandhi tho!

I never have and never will pledge allegiance. Now that I'm reading this I'm reminded to check out their newest album right now. Hope its shreddy.
hahaha! definitely worth it. Like many of their new albums it's a creeper. Failed states is still better imho but there is some great songs on there

saw propagandhi recently, they killed it, my best friend shares shares studio space with them and comeback kid in wpg, so I've been fortunate enough to see propagandhi practice
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« Reply #521 on: February 10, 2018, 03:03:46 PM »
I've been listening to punk and going to punk and hardcore shows for like 13 years and I still feel so uneducated about so many bands and so many subgenres. I've tried to get into Scandinavian/Japanese/raw punk/dbeat more times than I can count.


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« Reply #522 on: February 10, 2018, 06:38:47 PM »
I've been listening to punk and going to punk and hardcore shows for like 13 years and I still feel so uneducated about so many bands and so many subgenres. I've tried to get into Scandinavian/Japanese/raw punk/dbeat more times than I can count.

If you need any recommendations to point you in the right direction let me know!


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« Reply #523 on: February 12, 2018, 06:37:45 PM »
I agree 100% with Crudos being the most important band of the 90s. Martin is such a genuinely nice guy. Ebro too. Crudos, Spazz, Rorschach, M.I.T.B, Born Against, Copout, HHIG, held me down in the 90s.
Propagandhi tho!

I never have and never will pledge allegiance. Now that I'm reading this I'm reminded to check out their newest album right now. Hope its shreddy.
hahaha! definitely worth it. Like many of their new albums it's a creeper. Failed states is still better imho but there is some great songs on there

saw propagandhi recently, they killed it, my best friend shares shares studio space with them and comeback kid in wpg, so I've been fortunate enough to see propagandhi practice
honestly their recent live footage looks so tight. I haven't seen them live since the late 90s but they really have grown as a band so much and it shows when they play live. you ever seen this?

I love how stoked Bill is on them, the interviewer can't even get a word in edgewise

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« Reply #524 on: February 19, 2018, 09:22:20 PM »
I agree 100% with Crudos being the most important band of the 90s. Martin is such a genuinely nice guy. Ebro too. Crudos, Spazz, Rorschach, M.I.T.B, Born Against, Copout, HHIG, held me down in the 90s.
Propagandhi tho!

I never have and never will pledge allegiance. Now that I'm reading this I'm reminded to check out their newest album right now. Hope its shreddy.
hahaha! definitely worth it. Like many of their new albums it's a creeper. Failed states is still better imho but there is some great songs on there

saw propagandhi recently, they killed it, my best friend shares shares studio space with them and comeback kid in wpg, so I've been fortunate enough to see propagandhi practice
honestly their recent live footage looks so tight. I haven't seen them live since the late 90s but they really have grown as a band so much and it shows when they play live. you ever seen this?

I love how stoked Bill is on them, the interviewer can't even get a word in edgewise

Hadn't seen that, thanks though was a good watch!
Yeah they've been a band longer then I've been alive, but ive seen them 7-8 times now, one of my all time favourites.
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Re: Hardcore Thread
« Reply #525 on: February 20, 2018, 05:32:23 PM »
Great to hear that there's young-ins out there who are into them.
Do you know about ISPY, swallowing shit and all those other amazing bands that came out of the peg in the mid 90s too?
Painted Thin is one of my fav bands of all time (though defs not hardcore)

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Re: Hardcore Thread
« Reply #526 on: February 21, 2018, 11:43:58 PM »
Swallowing Shit has the best song names.
Because you can't kill and idea, and we will not be ruled!

the visuals are also mad visual yo
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« Reply #527 on: February 22, 2018, 04:35:41 PM »
Swallowing Shit has the best song names.
hell yes they do! Not really a grind head but swallowing shit mad me love grind

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« Reply #528 on: February 22, 2018, 05:41:24 PM »
Great to hear that there's young-ins out there who are into them.
Do you know about ISPY, swallowing shit and all those other amazing bands that came out of the peg in the mid 90s too?
Painted Thin is one of my fav bands of all time (though defs not hardcore)

Ive heard of a few but honestly not many others from that time, ill have to get on that
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« Reply #529 on: February 22, 2018, 06:35:54 PM »
ISPY has Todd from propgandhi on vocals so you know it's good. All of those bands shared members back in the day. Is it Jason Tait? He was like in every band from Winnipeg ever! Swallowing shit is worthy though and very relevant to this thread. In fact:

If that doesn't get you bangin your head, then I don't know what will

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Re: Hardcore Thread
« Reply #530 on: February 28, 2018, 09:37:32 AM »
Anyone digging the new Turnstile album?

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« Reply #531 on: March 01, 2018, 10:20:30 PM »
I think I'm too old to understand turnstile?

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« Reply #532 on: March 02, 2018, 10:00:18 AM »
http://www.noecho.net/interviews/chris-dodge-spazz-slap-a-ham-records
read this today and got all nostalgic though ...

I somehow stumbled upon that interview scrolling through instagram yesterday. It made me realize Neanderthal was awesome and that I always liked Man Is The Bastard's whole vibe way more than I like most of their music.


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« Reply #533 on: March 02, 2018, 01:25:59 PM »
I think I'm too old to understand turnstile?

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read this today and got all nostalgic though ...
I'm right there with you. I'm pretty sure I've mentioned it before in this thread, but they sound like a "Mall-ified" Shelter-meets-Snapcase hybrid to me. Caught a live set of theirs in St. Louis years ago, and I have to admit, they fucking killed, even with the embarrassing, corny ass white boy dance moves the lead singer has. Pretty sure there were less than 10 females in the crowd (in a club, no less), which isn't an insinuation or anything, just an observation.

Cool interview. It's pretty incredible that 2 of the best Hardcore labels of the 90s were created by members of the same band.

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« Reply #534 on: March 04, 2018, 07:48:32 PM »
http://www.noecho.net/interviews/chris-dodge-spazz-slap-a-ham-records
read this today and got all nostalgic though ...

I somehow stumbled upon that interview scrolling through instagram yesterday. It made me realize Neanderthal was awesome and that I always liked Man Is The Bastard's whole vibe way more than I like most of their music.



Cool interview.  I never knew how deep the history was for No Use For A Name.

Kinda crazy to see the name Black Army Jacket (interviewers band), just cause I haven't heard that name in awhile.  Their demo tape is awesome, definitely worth tracking down.

Off topic, but I've recently come to the conclusion that Boston produced my favorite American HC during the first wave.  I was thinking about how many great full-length LP's that came out of there:

The first SSDecontrol, Negative FX, F.U's, Jerry's Kids, Vile, Proletariat, Siege, and what I consider the best HC comp ever, This Is Boston Not L.A.   

Boston HC gets a bad-rap as being meatheaded and jockish but I don't think they were any worse than any other regional scene. 







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« Reply #535 on: March 06, 2018, 06:48:58 PM »
I'm right there with you. I'm pretty sure I've mentioned it before in this thread, but they sound like a "Mall-ified" Shelter-meets-Snapcase hybrid to me.
yeah, that plus they are having a foursome with living color and early RHCP. I'm old but I've got an older HC friend and he sent me a link of one of their videos and he is like, "this is HC in the late 2010s, dudes squawk" and then the singer squawks during one the breakdowns. I don't know why but that always made me laugh.



Cool interview.  I never knew how deep the history was for No Use For A Name.

Kinda crazy to see the name Black Army Jacket (interviewers band), just cause I haven't heard that name in awhile.  Their demo tape is awesome, definitely worth tracking down.
yeah, the NUFAN history was pretty deep. I remember buying one of their older albums when I was really into fat bands and thinking wtf? is this? Funny that a few years later I'd be really into Spazz (and not realizing the connection). Never heard of that GASP album either so I downloaded it yesterday. I imagine it would be mad fun to listen to while high af on some crazy hash...
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« Reply #536 on: March 07, 2018, 03:20:59 PM »
Reading back through, there is so much that I've not heard of. I'm guessing some of you guys grew up listening to it all though. I grew up listening to nu-metal and punk because that's the late 90s early 00s summed up in the alt-music world haha. Your Demise got me into hardcore about 9 years ago, I've still probably only really scratched the surface.

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« Reply #537 on: March 07, 2018, 06:00:45 PM »
I talked about subversion a few pages back but this is defs my fav spazz split, would actually love to hear the story as to how this one came about.

edit - found a link
https://mega.nz/#!2NEGAKBB!kEPCypGSHeBC8l_NIdsbzOigtfMxX3HBq2MfVtDkaec

edit 2 - for some reason that youtube link includes the subversion side twice before the spazz tracks start?
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Re: Hardcore Thread
« Reply #538 on: March 10, 2018, 07:52:54 AM »
New Hank Wood and the Hammerheads came out yesterday and its.... pretty good?  I'm not sure yet.

Way more polished than their previous two; it reminds me of some late 80's garage bands like The Cynics (which is weird).  I miss the chaos of the first two albums.  My friend said it reminded him of The Murder City Devils (which was NOT a compliment), which now that it's in my head is hard to shake.  Maybe I don't like this album.

Doesn't even really belong in the hardcore thread at this point, but FUCK I love the first LP so much I'm putting it here anyways.  Fantastic live band, though.

https://hankwoodandthehammerheads.bandcamp.com/album/s-t


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« Reply #539 on: March 10, 2018, 12:49:47 PM »
Yeah, it feels a lot slower and less frantic. I'd rather just listen to the last 2 albums.


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