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Re: MJ Chrome Ball interview
« Reply #150 on: July 07, 2013, 12:14:17 PM »
since bigwigs read this shit they should realize that the fun aspect of skateboarding (tiltmode, chomp on this) will generate just as much sales as the jock contest scene... there is 2 sides to this shit the fun side and the contest/money side and the longboard shit is dominating the fun side... Skateboarding needs more fun at a pro level

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« Reply #151 on: July 07, 2013, 02:18:38 PM »
Chomp and Tiltmode vids are good no doubt but you're delusional if you think they generate anything near the sales of vids like FF and Pretty Sweet.

That's the problem with Slap. People posting on here think they represent market forces but the purchasing power is with the middle school mall demographic.

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« Reply #152 on: July 07, 2013, 02:21:34 PM »
what happened to all the og's footy tho

what the fuck is the deal wit castilla ass

where is the footy of all them niggas,,,,,does it exist

talk to a nigga ty


where you tryna to brush them dudes to the side......or do yo just no fuck wit them like that

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« Reply #153 on: July 07, 2013, 02:27:14 PM »
I saw you talking shit in the Keenan thread--you trying to cozy up now?

Regarding footage just like any big project there's always a bunch that doesn't make the final cut. The good stuff is in the PS bonus footage.

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« Reply #154 on: July 07, 2013, 02:28:49 PM »
Oh, fully flared and pretty sweet generate bigger sales, better delete this mj part...

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« Reply #155 on: July 07, 2013, 02:30:44 PM »
How about reading the thread before you post. The part was never deleted and some clips made the FF part.

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« Reply #156 on: July 07, 2013, 02:32:52 PM »
cozy UP......................stooooooooooops

you can kiss my black ass forreal forreal


WHAT DID I SAY THAT WASNT TRUE IN THE KEENAN JOINT

and if you felt offended

why you aint set shit straight

none of yall niggas (crailtap) talk about what happened to dude


NONE OF YOU

i fucks wit your shit regardless of what is said on here

and i stood up for your lame ass for dumb long

if you got some shit to set straight

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« Reply #157 on: July 07, 2013, 02:34:19 PM »
Chomp and Tiltmode vids are good no doubt but you're delusional if you think they generate anything near the sales of vids like FF and Pretty Sweet.

That's the problem with Slap. People posting on here think they represent market forces but the purchasing power is with the middle school mall demographic.
It's sort of startling how you don't see the bigger picture as an artist (art director here).  If you are catering only to what is NOW (middle school mall demo) and unable to anticipate/help steer towards what is NEXT, you're a hack.  Anyone can do that.  Also, if you care more about selling to your largest sales demographic without satisfying your core fanbase (lifers), you're a hack.  You are supposed to be able to carry the vibe over from the inspirational projects (Chomp etc) to the mass audience.  There have been numerous posts from you suggesting that your priorities as a professional creative are out of line with where they should be.

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Re: MJ Chrome Ball interview
« Reply #158 on: July 07, 2013, 02:35:16 PM »
yall ack like yall aint help dude to the grave


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« Reply #159 on: July 07, 2013, 02:45:07 PM »
I saw you talking shit in the Keenan thread--you trying to cozy up now?

Regarding footage just like any big project there's always a bunch that doesn't make the final cut. The good stuff is in the PS bonus footage.

And why is that? Theres really no excuse for editting the video that way. It effects the perception of the brand when you do something like that and over time that effects who wants to ride for the company and who wants to buy the stuff they make. I dont have a problem with intense video productions if thats what a company is about but leaving out whole chunks of higher quality footage? Lame lens decisions? Not really making a quality video with the raw material available? Rubbing people the wrong way with no payoff at the end? Thats all on you.

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« Reply #160 on: July 07, 2013, 02:49:21 PM »
The thing you will NEVER realize Ty is that most core skaters, the people you should care about, don't give two shits about the quality of footage or tricks. We just want to see our favorite skaters skating. Period.

You mean all the people here asking for PMs every time a new video is released?
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« Reply #161 on: July 07, 2013, 02:52:45 PM »
/\ i love the trunk boys

BUT

how you gone step completely over the builders of the brand

the dudes whose skating you relate the brand wit in the first gotdamn place

thems the niggas we wanted to see shinin

there is nothing like watching a part from a dude you grew up with, watching his new shit and still getting inspired

like the dudes older than 24 aint bought mad boards for mad yrs and supported that brand

we aint shit now huh

we was buyin yall shit before youtube gotdammit

we MADE YALL

most of the kids that skate now will quit in 5 yrs tops

but thats who you bless


FUCK OUTTA HERE

ty.......your whole perception of what skatin REALLY is is mad warped

you a policticin animal yo


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Re: MJ Chrome Ball interview
« Reply #162 on: July 07, 2013, 02:55:52 PM »
Chomp and Tiltmode vids are good no doubt but you're delusional if you think they generate anything near the sales of vids like FF and Pretty Sweet.

That's the problem with Slap. People posting on here think they represent market forces but the purchasing power is with the middle school mall demographic.



these kids dont buy videos. its people like me whos mom drove them to the skateshop to buy yeah right when they were this kids age and still called the skate shop for a week straight asking "do you guys have pretty sweet yet?". we have the purchasing power when it comes to videos. the people who waste hours of their life on slap discussing skate videos in such detail are the ones buying videos, not the middle school mall kids couldnt give two shits about the filming and editiing and song selection and all the other bullshit that goes into a major video. i dont have the stats in front of me, but id be pretty surprised to find out that im wrong.

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« Reply #163 on: July 07, 2013, 03:55:05 PM »
Yeah dude. We could drive to a skateshop and pay for videos. I dont email my friends for torrent of the latest video. Those mall demographic save their loonies for shakejunt/supreme shirt/hat, wayfarers and Sb's. Mostly has short attention span to even sit for a video.
« Last Edit: July 07, 2013, 03:57:59 PM by Marty Mcfly »

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« Reply #164 on: July 07, 2013, 04:14:21 PM »
Carroll say he has the missing MJ part.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/703/3k31.png

That part has a lot more mystique unseen. People will be underwhelmed, the best clips are in his FF part.

The worst thing about this isn't that you pulled such a dick move, the worst thing is that you put yourself and your 'vision' ahead of the talent actually doing the work. That you grudgingly cherry-picked the best parts makes it worse.

It's not easy putting films together, and shit gets heated. But you gotta realise that without the skaters, you have no video. Your attitude towards it all kind of shows that your work is about you, not the skating. That's sad, and it will hurt your career in the long run.

In short - you need skaters, they don't need you.

Ok, thats just wrong, if people really didnt need editors everyone wouldve loved extremely sorry. You need both for something good to happen. Theres nothing wrong with having a "vision" for what a video should look like because all the best videos usually have a solid concept but its another thing to not follow through with your vision and not make all that misery worth it for everybody involved.

You're right to a point, but putting a filmer/editor ahead of the skaters is putting the cart in front of the horse. Ty's ego getting in the way of MJ's hard work is twisted and the reaction of Carroll really says a lot.

I like that Ty has raised the bar of skate filming, it just seems that it's come at a pretty high cost. Put it this way - would you rather the world had Ty's filming or MJ's skating? The answer is pretty easy to me and I'm a film nerd who loves seeing HD skating.

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« Reply #165 on: July 07, 2013, 04:30:09 PM »
Dude.  Fuck Ty Evans.

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« Reply #166 on: July 07, 2013, 04:31:50 PM »

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« Reply #167 on: July 07, 2013, 05:42:39 PM »
I actually give Ty a lot of credit for coming on here and facing his critics.

That being said, some of the shit you're saying is whack as hell. Based on your logic you must think Bieber is a great artist because he sells a lot of records and is appealing to the "young demographic that sells product"? You can talk all you want about sales records that PS and FF set, but I think I speak for a lot of us when I say the world wants another Tilt Mode or Chomp video more than they want another FF. And I buy a lot of product, so my opinion must mean something to you.

You seem to be contradicting/ignoring a lot of what you said in your Jenkem interview a few months back.

To suggest that us "core" older dudes are irrelevant in the skateboarding market is a joke. If this is true, how has Anti-Hero managed to stay in business for so long? Funny, I don't remember them putting out a big-budget video to help sell product?

Would I like to see a balls-to-the-wall Stranger or Gerwer part, or a team video? Absofuckinglutely, but I buy Anti-Hero boards because they do everything on their own terms. Not because some big shot filmmaker sticks an expensive camera in their face and says "This is the future of skateboarding. Deal with it!" And those dudes are loyal to a fault.



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« Reply #168 on: July 07, 2013, 05:50:20 PM »
How about reading the thread before you post. The part was never deleted and some clips made the FF part.

My bad. Take 2:

Oh, fully flared and pretty sweet generate bigger sales, better be an absolute pile and go against every party involved in this MJ part to have it pulled. Fucking knob

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« Reply #169 on: July 07, 2013, 05:56:37 PM »
Skate videos have been downhill ever since 411VM #20, fuck everything.

What's worse? Ty Evans, or someone pretending to be Ty Evans? Never mind me, I'll gladly take the death sentence.

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« Reply #170 on: July 07, 2013, 06:02:52 PM »

Yeah 'cause dudes are getting kicked off left and right from Girl/Choc for not producing.

Well can you elaborate on why Pops was recently removed from the Chocolate website?

I mean at this point I understand why he may have gotten kicked off and I give you credit if you really did try to get him involved in PS, but what happened exactly?































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Re: MJ Chrome Ball interview
« Reply #171 on: July 07, 2013, 06:19:35 PM »
some new marc johnson ads would be dope

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« Reply #172 on: July 07, 2013, 06:23:30 PM »
Skate videos have been downhill ever since 411VM #20

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« Reply #173 on: July 07, 2013, 07:22:00 PM »
Fuck you, Tyrant Evans.

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« Reply #174 on: July 07, 2013, 08:41:29 PM »
Chomp and Tiltmode vids are good no doubt but you're delusional if you think they generate anything near the sales of vids like FF and Pretty Sweet.

That's the problem with Slap. People posting on here think they represent market forces but the purchasing power is with the middle school mall demographic.

Was Mouse marketed toward the middle school mall demographic? Or did Rickoo & Spike just set out to make the best quality, most tasteful video possible, according to their aesthetic judgement, without much concern for how "the market" would respond?

Of course that was a different era--simpler, more naive. There's so much more at stake now. The rich need to get richer.

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-businessmen/ceos/rick-howard-net-worth/

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Skateboarder and businessman Rick Howard has an estimated net worth of $45 million.

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/directors/spike-jonze-net-worth/

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Spike Jonze net worth: Spike Jonze is an American director, producer, screenwriter and actor who has a net worth of $40 million.



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« Reply #175 on: July 07, 2013, 08:44:41 PM »
There is no way Spike is worth less than Rick Howard.
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« Reply #176 on: July 07, 2013, 08:50:39 PM »
Some of yall are accepting this is actually Ty pretty uncharacteristically quickly

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« Reply #177 on: July 07, 2013, 08:56:47 PM »
That internetworth meter is way off.

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« Reply #178 on: July 07, 2013, 09:10:38 PM »
That internetworth meter is way off.

It's not exactly a statement from Merril Lynch, but if anything these are likely to be lowball estimates. Over the past 20 years, Rickoo has skimmed from every piece of Girl, Chocolate & 4 Star piece sold. Plus Lakai money. Not to mention, once you have dough, it opens up all kinds of other revenue streams--stocks & bonds, mutuals & index funds, real estate flippage, etc. He may not have $40m in the bank but when you consider the equity value of brands in which he's a stakeholder, I'd be shocked if he was worth under $45m.



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« Reply #179 on: July 07, 2013, 09:32:10 PM »
Ty,  you should film porn.  I'd like to see how you handle mandingos black cock