So I bought into all the Dickies hype and bought a pair of the 874s. Now I got to say they're some of the comfiest pants I've had, up there with the Altamont Davis pants but with more durability. They took a bit to break in, but once they did the fit and comfort was great. The only problem I have with them now is that after my first was with them, they seem to have shrunk in the rise. Every time I bend down to pick something up or when I push on my board they always ride up my ass! Now its only been about 4 days, so I'm not sure if this is a common problem and I have to break them in again or if I just gonna have pants that give me a constant wedgie.