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Re: True Detective
« Reply #90 on: March 10, 2014, 04:34:53 PM »
holy fucking shit. i am pleased as fuck. also that dialogue with the dude about the boat was actually pretty funny.

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Re: True Detective
« Reply #91 on: March 10, 2014, 04:49:48 PM »
I enjoyed the ending. I wasn't expecting some huge twist (obviously after the reveal in episode 7), but there was a lot of build up of a deep conspiracy/cover up and in the end we only get the psycho redneck.
I liked the little tease at the very end when the reporter says something about the Tuttle family quickly disavowing that Errol was at all related to them. Maybe that's a tease to them continuing this general storyline, but getting weirder and in another part of the country? I would enjoy that for sure.



so was that black swirly cloud in Carcosa a symptom of Rust's synesthesia or shit?
I think it was kind of a symbolic hallucination, like he saw with the birds (at least I assumed the birds were a hallucination). It ties into the swirl design painted on Dora Lange/the scar on Errol's back. Plus it had the black stars of Carcosa, tying it into the King in Yellow stories even more. My hope is that it's signifying that they're going to go a little more towards the lovecraftian/cosmic horror that gets hinted at by Pizza-lottery and certain aspects of the show itself. Then again that could just be me continuing to read way too far into the show even though it's over for now.

I'm really really excited for season 2, whenever it comes out. There hasn't been a show I've enjoyed this much in a while. I'm bummed to see Rust and Marty go, but I'm sure the next detectives will be amazing, too. I really liked that at the end Rust didn't die, so it's like he's being denied what he wants most one last time. Their lives in the 2012 timeline were pretty much defined by crippling loneliness (new for Marty, old hat for Rust), but at the end they truly become friends and both finally have someone to care about/trust again. Great ending to a great show.
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Re: True Detective
« Reply #92 on: March 10, 2014, 05:17:25 PM »
^lol I didn't get most of those points or disagree with them, but it's cool that that's even possible, the show left so much open for the audience which was great. ya cohles vision in carcosa was his synesthesia or w/e. ugh I dun even wanna get started typing out all the shit I wanna say, would take forever. I agree that it's awesome they used the whole yellow king thing as a sidebar and it was solely about the two detectives and didn't give into all the conspiratorial shit.
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Re: True Detective
« Reply #93 on: March 10, 2014, 08:01:25 PM »
 the finale last night was my first time seeing this show, it's tight I think im gonna watch it backwards.

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Re: True Detective
« Reply #95 on: March 11, 2014, 01:24:36 AM »
Sublime TV.

*Spoilers ahead.


InternetDaddy, I didn't take it to be a tease. The loose ends were functional, with the unsolved analogized to the darkness. Tying them up in the next season would only diminish this conclusion. Of course there would be an investigation with the vast amount of evidence at Fort Carcosa, the video etc. The new detectives mentioned something to Hart about there being no records (of Errol being related to the Tuttles?), though. In any case, the FBI discredited rumors, implying the conspiracy will not be unveiled.
Cohle seemingly resigning himself with 'the nightmare you keep waking up to', as he put it in an earlier episode, may seem kind of unbelievable. Despite his coma-induced character development, this seems too uncharacteristic for him. Considering what he knows. Recall prisoner Frances, who knew something about 'big people' in the know about the Yellow King and the real killer. Cohle would return to him the next day, having been restrained from interrogating the man. But Frances killed himself, not long after receiving a phone call supposedly from his lawyer (remote payphone, unlikely for a lawyer). One of the officers escorting Frances to the phone was named Childress. But Cohle is too far from proving anything I think. To end with all culprits caught would have been too bright, and in my opinion unfitting. He is more optimistic but the ending is still mostly dark.

The one thing that stood out to me was the green paint job that finally brought them to Errol Childress. Wasn't that quite an incredible hunch?

Also, interesting similarity:

True Detective Ending Speech Between Rust and Marty - Hospital Final Scene
No Country for Old Men - the ending scene [HD]



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Re: True Detective
« Reply #96 on: March 11, 2014, 05:07:40 AM »
love this show, started watching it after the single shot sequence blew up on all the video production web sites. Whats also rad is they film it all over southern Louisiana but they didn't use any of the typical spots, whoever is their location scout went all out. Theres so many places that are just in ducked off sketchy areas of New Orleans that no one knows about. The scene where they go into the mechanic shop and Rust beats the dude to find out where the bunny ranch is, is on this crazy road out here that time just forgot and has been decaying for the last 30-40 years but people still live and work back there. shit was great.

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Re: True Detective
« Reply #97 on: March 11, 2014, 06:39:31 AM »
It's been my favourite show since The Wire. Can't wait for the next season.

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Re: True Detective
« Reply #98 on: March 11, 2014, 10:25:09 AM »
Is it just me or could you guys almost feel and smell that dense muggy Louisiana air come through your screens when you watch this show?

http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/true-detective-creator-nic-pizzolatto-looks-back-on-season-1

Good interview and a hint about next season. I could definitely see them setting it in the northeast or somewhere like that. Places with deep roots and history, where people have been there for a long time.

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Re: True Detective
« Reply #99 on: March 12, 2014, 12:19:57 AM »
love this show, started watching it after the single shot sequence blew up on all the video production web sites. Whats also rad is they film it all over southern Louisiana but they didn't use any of the typical spots, whoever is their location scout went all out. Theres so many places that are just in ducked off sketchy areas of New Orleans that no one knows about. The scene where they go into the mechanic shop and Rust beats the dude to find out where the bunny ranch is, is on this crazy road out here that time just forgot and has been decaying for the last 30-40 years but people still live and work back there. shit was great.

Definitely one of the best things about this show is the location. The scenery and spots they filmed were so eerie and added so much to the atmosphere and mood of the show.

On a separate note, I have to say I'm very pleased that they didn't go with a shocking kill off of a major character type of ending that has been huge in a lot of TV shows these days. A show that is so dark went off with some optimism and it was pulled off nicely.

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Re: True Detective
« Reply #100 on: March 12, 2014, 12:29:00 AM »
I don't think Rust was very happy with the end, really.

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Re: True Detective
« Reply #101 on: March 12, 2014, 12:53:56 AM »
I don't think Rust was very happy with the end, really.

Considering where these characters were at before, and then to have them laughing and hugging and telling stories, something we never saw before with all the time these two spend together?

Check out some interviews with the Nic Pizzolato who is the creator of the show

Interviewer: there was the strong note of optimism at the end. Why did you want to end this story this way?

Nic Pizzolato:  Where I wanted them to go in their journeys wasn?t a point of redemption or conversion or even closure but a point of deliverance. They are not healed, but now, for the first time, you can imagine a future where they are healed. And before that was never a possibility for Cohle and hardly a possibility for Hart. But now it?s a real earned possibility.

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Re: True Detective
« Reply #102 on: March 13, 2014, 02:46:17 PM »
something I haven't seen brought up or discussed really, is about the time difference between the original crimes and the present day. some or all of the old men in that video could be dead by now. judging by carcosa and how Errol kills/lives i would guess that the cult is disbanded or at least drastically different then before. maybe when Tuttle was robbed and ultimately killed, they all got scared and stopped their practices.

somewhat related, the scene between Marty and his father in law in one early episode, Marty quips back about how it's good that the old people will die off, after pappy-in-law talks shit about the current generation. maybe this goes for the cult too? their kids saw how fucked up their parents were and wanted nothing to do with it. except Errol and Ladoux and the other guy, who I'm guessing were victims and exceptions to this. Errol also making a big show of his killings was unlike the cult too, which gives credence to the cult having dissolved. this is all just IMO stuff, forgive me if it's been proven wrong already
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Re: True Detective
« Reply #103 on: March 13, 2014, 08:19:16 PM »
amazing show! loved everything about it.

For those of you who are looking for something similar and were losing their shit over how good the cinematography was true detective, definitely check out Top of the Lake.  It has the same cinematographer and the tone and feel of the show is also just incredible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TujPm45jhLw



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Re: True Detective
« Reply #104 on: March 14, 2014, 07:35:57 AM »

"Top of the Lake" is really really great.

Also, what The Bullet said: it could very well work as True Detective New Zealand edition.

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Re: True Detective
« Reply #105 on: March 14, 2014, 09:18:38 AM »
Also, what The Bullet said: it could very well work as True Detective New Zealand edition.

Not really. Completely different atmosphere, despite the turn of events in the end of Top of the Lake. Beatiful, but nowhere near as well written as True Detective.

Considering where these characters were at before, and then to have them laughing and hugging and telling stories, something we never saw before with all the time these two spend together?

Agree on the deliverance (although is it pure if some of the bad guys get away with it?) but didn't Rust state that after solving the case he was done? Along with the vision of his daughter and not being able to reconnect with her in death?
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Re: True Detective
« Reply #106 on: March 22, 2014, 08:45:13 PM »
I really have no clue how they will top this in season 2.

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Re: True Detective
« Reply #107 on: March 23, 2014, 03:56:22 AM »
DeNiro and Pacino bruh.

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Re: True Detective
« Reply #108 on: March 26, 2014, 05:36:17 AM »
Just finished after watching the whole thing in one sitting.

10/10 but the thing with woodys daughter threw me.  When she had all the dolls set up like the video it sent a wave of evil through me. I was thinking she saw the first murder scene/the crowning. when rust saw the swirling space in carcosa all my hairs stood up.

One thing I didn't like was HBO using same actors. I understand that it happens, get money, great actors or whatever but using people from other cult followed like shows puts me off.  A little. 

Fucking best thing I've watched since the wire.

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Re: True Detective
« Reply #109 on: March 26, 2014, 03:38:55 PM »
Just finished after watching the whole thing in one sitting.

10/10 but the thing with woodys daughter threw me.  When she had all the dolls set up like the video it sent a wave of evil through me. I was thinking she saw the first murder scene/the crowning. when rust saw the swirling space in carcosa all my hairs stood up.

One thing I didn't like was HBO using same actors. I understand that it happens, get money, great actors or whatever but using people from other cult followed like shows puts me off.  A little. 

Fucking best thing I've watched since the wire.



When I saw this I had a feeling Marty's rich in-laws were somehow going to be implicated, defining the original cult members as rich people who tortured and murdered children for fun, like that 120 Days of Sodom story.

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Re: True Detective
« Reply #110 on: March 26, 2014, 08:23:03 PM »
8 episodes..that's it? It's an OK show but often slow and corny, that being said I will be on piratebay 2 hours after season 2 premiere. Shows how bad TV is right now

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Re: True Detective
« Reply #111 on: March 26, 2014, 08:25:47 PM »
8 episodes..that's it? It's an OK show but often slow and corny, that being said I will be on piratebay 2 hours after season 2 premiere. Shows how bad TV is right now


Tracer your mind is fucking slow and your posts are super corny.  Fuck off. 

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Re: True Detective
« Reply #112 on: March 26, 2014, 08:32:00 PM »
Tracer is the worst human ever.  god bless him.
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Re: True Detective
« Reply #114 on: May 14, 2014, 04:27:43 PM »
Not sure how I feel about this..

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Re: True Detective
« Reply #115 on: May 14, 2014, 06:44:14 PM »
It'll be great dude.

Just imagine Brad Pitt casually eating a burger or an ice cream cone while looking down at a gruesome murder scene

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Re: True Detective
« Reply #116 on: May 15, 2014, 07:55:00 AM »
They already dispelled any rumors of Brad Pitt being in season 2.

Did anyone else notice Marty's quip about what kind of detective he is was taken almost word for word from Bunk's speech in The Wire?
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Re: True Detective
« Reply #117 on: May 15, 2014, 08:01:11 AM »
I read a rumor from one of the sites that said Brad Pitt may be in next season that they are also considering changing the format to a crime an episode instead of a crime per season, so it would be similar to NCIS or some garbage like that, I hope they don't do that, it would ruin the show.
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Re: True Detective
« Reply #118 on: May 15, 2014, 08:21:42 AM »
I read a rumor from one of the sites that said Brad Pitt may be in next season that they are also considering changing the format to a crime an episode instead of a crime per season, so it would be similar to NCIS or some garbage like that, I hope they don't do that, it would ruin the show.

This is the second time that rumor has come up and every article I've seen says there's nothing but speculation to back it up. I know a lot can happen in the entertainment industry in a pretty short amount of time but as of a month ago these are the only concrete things I've read...

 The next season of ?True Detective? will be about ?hard women, bad men and the secret occult history of the United States transportation system,? says series creator Nic Pizzolatto. No actors have been cast, and Pizzolatto hasn't even presented his idea to HBO.
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Re: True Detective
« Reply #119 on: May 15, 2014, 06:59:22 PM »
whoever they get for season two will have to live up to/follow one of the best seasons of TV ever, which is a lot to ask.  without harrelson and mcconaughey i'm not sure what to expect, but the producers nailed it first time around so I'll at least give this coming season a shot.  they should give ed norton a call.