I ride indy... they work with you, or they work with me. Especially for smith grinds, they sort of know I want to pop out where as thunders stay down and i fall off the curb.
I like the way they turn and i ride em as loose as I can, but with thunders at a medium loose they keep on turning right into wheel bite. Indy again just seems to turn with me. They don't over turn! and the board does not wobble and not turn at all like with destructo.