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« Reply #330 on: August 02, 2016, 08:05:19 PM »
I would say PFC but on unperfect surfaces they'll rattle your fillings out

how would you describe them relative to stf's?  I mean stfs are my baseline so if it isn't any better that's acceptable, but if it's worse they probably won't be a great fit.

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« Reply #331 on: August 02, 2016, 08:39:00 PM »
I would say PFC but on unperfect surfaces they'll rattle your fillings out

how would you describe them relative to stf's?  I mean stfs are my baseline so if it isn't any better that's acceptable, but if it's worse they probably won't be a great fit.

Spit F4s 101s will do you just fine on shit roads, I find them a tad grippier than STFs.

Rictas will feel harder and faster than both; slide wise I'd put them right in the middle, not as grippy as F4s but not as slippery as stf.

Never skated PFC.

Speed: Ricta>f4>stf (also, skate faster)
Grip: F4>Ricta>stf
Slide: bones/Ricta>F4


Bones break free faster than either and flatspot the least.
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« Reply #332 on: August 02, 2016, 08:58:08 PM »
F4 classic shape is all you need. Any surface, they're fine, 99 or 101, the difference isn't that great. They do everything you need them to.
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« Reply #333 on: August 02, 2016, 09:02:53 PM »
Does anyone have any advice for a nice hard wheel for street that is good for power slides and isn't unusable on not so perfect roads?  My stf v3's are getting small after 8 months of hill bombs and powerslides and I'm looking for my next set.  How do spitfire f4 101a and those Ricta nrg 101's compare to stfs in regard to slidablility, grip, speed,  and handling on somewhat rough surfaces?

It's all personal preference, but Autobahn wheels do everything I need them too. I've been skating Autobahn for years. I don't always skate smooth concrete parks either. I typically skate fucked up and harsh spots. I also like skating spot to spot on rough city roads.

There are more choices than Spitfire and Bones. It's all trial and error, finding out what works for you and what you want to support.

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« Reply #334 on: August 03, 2016, 06:44:44 AM »
i used to be a big ricta fan because these wheels are the hardest but it came to a point where i could not stand the immediate flatspotting anymore. last year i got some ricta speed rings to try out and flatspotted them in about 2 minutes. mind, the floor is very smooth and kinda invokes flatspotting (i have flatspotted f4's and stfs in a day there).
i want to ask if this energy thing is any better than the og ricta stuff and if it is i wouldn't mind giving it a try.

What about how they feel? Anybody use speedrings long enough to give a definitive answer on whether that design leads to a smoother ride than typical wheels on the street?


the place i usually skate has extremely smooth, mirror like floor. using those rictas there felt like i was skating clay wheels. very hard and slippery but this is what i like when it comes to skating smooth flat. i tried squeezing the "ring" in between the polyurethane and that felt like it was very solid, more like an inner core. i doubt they will be smoooth for street skating. its been ages since i skated a set of inner cores but these speed rings feel very similar to the cored rictas. rattly as fuck

One of my favorite wheels were the chrome cores. Rattled your fucking teeth out they were so hard. Loud, hard and fast. Never flatted then and re-learned bluntslides on them.

Speedrings...I skated a pair on street, they felt great, less tooth jarring than the chrome cores...that said, that same day I rode them for all of 15min in a smooth park, ran into a chunk of mulch, it pitched me and flatted the shit out of them. Never touched a pair since.

NRG ridden two sets, still have them, love them, fast, loud and hard. The new speedrings are made with the NRG formula (my speed rings were the old formula).

I prefer Ricta NRG over everything really...wish they made a narrow speed ring as I am a fan of cored wheels. Would ride .sml of they weren't so damn grippy.


Good to know, thanks. Now to wait for them to release a set of green ones with the NRG formula.

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« Reply #335 on: August 03, 2016, 09:47:01 AM »
Sounds like spitfire 101's are going to be my best choice, I just have to figure out what shape.  If I want a 54 or 56mm wheel, what is the best all around shape?

Can't tell if this is a serious post. You are asking another skateboarder what is the best shape of a wheel in 54 or 56 for you?

Here is an entire thread dedicated to Spitfire Wheels: http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=68020.0

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #336 on: August 03, 2016, 11:26:47 AM »
Spitfire F4 101's classic shape 53mm-54mm. Doesn't get any better. If you go with 56mm you're in riser territory.

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« Reply #337 on: August 03, 2016, 11:32:59 AM »
Spitfire F4 101's classic shape 53mm-54mm. Doesn't get any better. If you go with 56mm you're in riser territory.

Thanks for the input

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« Reply #338 on: August 03, 2016, 02:39:37 PM »
Spitfire F4 101's classic shape 53mm-54mm. Doesn't get any better. If you go with 56mm you're in riser territory.

Thanks for the input

If you are thinking of going past 54mm I'd suggest going for radials or conicals (full, slim, whateverthefuck) over classics.

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« Reply #339 on: August 03, 2016, 03:22:13 PM »
Spitfire F4 101's classic shape 53mm-54mm. Doesn't get any better. If you go with 56mm you're in riser territory.

Thanks for the input

If you are thinking of going past 54mm I'd suggest going for radials or conicals (full, slim, whateverthefuck) over classics.

Definitely, I feel like with bigger wheels ya gotta go with a shape. It would be like buying a 9.5" popsicle deck...why? Go with the shape!

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« Reply #340 on: August 06, 2016, 11:45:09 AM »
Spitfire F4 101's classic shape 53mm-54mm. Doesn't get any better. If you go with 56mm you're in riser territory.

Thanks for the input

If you are thinking of going past 54mm I'd suggest going for radials or conicals (full, slim, whateverthefuck) over classics.

Definitely, I feel like with bigger wheels ya gotta go with a shape. It would be like buying a 9.5" popsicle deck...why? Go with the shape!

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« Reply #341 on: August 06, 2016, 07:38:09 PM »
Spitfire F4 101's classic shape 53mm-54mm. Doesn't get any better. If you go with 56mm you're in riser territory.

Thanks for the input

If you are thinking of going past 54mm I'd suggest going for radials or conicals (full, slim, whateverthefuck) over classics.

Definitely, I feel like with bigger wheels ya gotta go with a shape. It would be like buying a 9.5" popsicle deck...why? Go with the shape!

Ask BMC ;P

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« Reply #342 on: August 08, 2016, 03:05:32 PM »
I was there for Steve's 9 phase. It was a fun month.

Anyone know anything about the sml "ag" formula? Can't find any info, even a durometer.

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« Reply #343 on: August 08, 2016, 07:45:15 PM »
I liked the Insane-a-thane I had fine, but got a set of the Ricta Curren Caples NRG's. They are great, they might even be better than the 101 F4's, which have been the yardstick for me for years now.

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« Reply #344 on: August 08, 2016, 08:02:34 PM »
Do the insane-a-thanes wear down/flat spot fast? I picked up a set of 53mm 99a cause they were on sale and I was ordering some other shit. Haven't tried em out yet though.

Not too picky about wheels. In the last year I've ridden pigs, F4s, Spit classics, mini logo. Live in Taiwan, so I just ride whatever I can get. Just want something hard/fast and won't wear down in a matter of weeks. I like most NHS products though, so I figured I'd try some OJ's.

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« Reply #345 on: August 09, 2016, 04:32:17 AM »
Spitfire F4 101's classic shape 53mm-54mm. Doesn't get any better. If you go with 56mm you're in riser territory.

I just gotta ventilate on these again.

I ride the 53's and I never would have imagined a wheel could make such a huge positive difference. Super fast, grippy when you need them to be on any surface but slide super easy whenever you want them to on any surface (haven't tried indoors, but "slippery" concrete). I can't imagine anything being as good or better than these.. So to anyone contemplating whether to get them or not, do it and be sold forever.

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« Reply #346 on: August 24, 2016, 12:27:39 PM »
I was there for Steve's 9 phase. It was a fun month.

Anyone know anything about the sml "ag" formula? Can't find any info, even a durometer.

Where you at Cliff?

Haha damn I never come in this zone.

the AG formula is basically closer to a Spitfire feel, 99A Duro. He loves that they have a little less rebound and slide a bit easier.

Also of the dudes on the team love them me personally I like our OG formula it's closer to a Bones STF.

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« Reply #347 on: August 24, 2016, 03:56:22 PM »
I was there for Steve's 9 phase. It was a fun month.

Anyone know anything about the sml "ag" formula? Can't find any info, even a durometer.

Where you at Cliff?

Haha damn I never come in this zone.

the AG formula is basically closer to a Spitfire feel, 99A Duro. He loves that they have a little less rebound and slide a bit easier.

Also of the dudes on the team love them me personally I like our OG formula it's closer to a Bones STF.

Thanks for the heads up! I ended up getting them anyway, been on them for like 2 weeks, love them, no complaints. They seem faster than 99.
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« Reply #348 on: August 25, 2016, 07:41:14 AM »
F4 classic shape is all you need. Any surface, they're fine, 99 or 101, the difference isn't that great. They do everything you need them to.
I like my wheels as hard as diamonds. I usually under rotate a lot of my tricks too, so the more a wheels slides for me the better haha.

That is why I have been riding STFs for years.


 As for the shape? V3s every time. Love a skinny wheel but prefer rounder wheels to squareish. V3s are everything I look for in a wheel.

Spitfire's classic shape is WAAAY to wide for my tastes.
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« Reply #349 on: August 25, 2016, 09:11:51 AM »
F4 classic shape is all you need. Any surface, they're fine, 99 or 101, the difference isn't that great. They do everything you need them to.
I like my wheels as hard as diamonds. I usually under rotate a lot of my tricks too, so the more a wheels slides for me the better haha.

That is why I have been riding STFs for years.


 As for the shape? V3s every time. Love a skinny wheel but prefer rounder wheels to squareish. V3s are everything I look for in a wheel.

Spitfire's classic shape is WAAAY to wide for my tastes.

Hard as diamonds? Ricta.

Classic spits are like tennis balls.

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« Reply #350 on: August 25, 2016, 10:55:22 PM »
F4 classic shape is all you need. Any surface, they're fine, 99 or 101, the difference isn't that great. They do everything you need them to.
I like my wheels as hard as diamonds. I usually under rotate a lot of my tricks too, so the more a wheels slides for me the better haha.

That is why I have been riding STFs for years.


 As for the shape? V3s every time. Love a skinny wheel but prefer rounder wheels to squareish. V3s are everything I look for in a wheel.

Spitfire's classic shape is WAAAY to wide for my tastes.

Hard as diamonds? Ricta.

Classic spits are like tennis balls.

Really? I haven't had a Ricta since the boltz (my shop had some on sale) so I may be wrong, but I always remember Rictas being 81B and STFs are 83B. Are you saying that Ricta makes wheels harder than 83B!


Also that Spitfire comment made me chuckle. So true!

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« Reply #351 on: August 29, 2016, 02:29:25 PM »
I know some guys here mess with Satori, but the only place i could find them was direct from them, and they're $$$. More than F4s. Price turned me off, otherwise I'd be down to try them again.
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« Reply #352 on: August 29, 2016, 02:31:31 PM »
I know some guys here mess with Satori, but the only place i could find them was direct from them, and they're $$$. More than F4s. Price turned me off, otherwise I'd be down to try them again.

Agreed brother. Buying direct from Culture Skate puts the price around $40 which is a little excessive for wheels. Truthfully? I know this sucks to say but check Amazon. Depending what size you are looking for you will find them there.

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« Reply #353 on: August 29, 2016, 05:35:10 PM »
I know some guys here mess with Satori, but the only place i could find them was direct from them, and they're $$$. More than F4s. Price turned me off, otherwise I'd be down to try them again.

Agreed brother. Buying direct from Culture Skate puts the price around $40 which is a little excessive for wheels. Truthfully? I know this sucks to say but check Amazon. Depending what size you are looking for you will find them there.
Some of these prices are ridiculously low (and with Prime)
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=satori+wheels
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« Reply #354 on: September 01, 2016, 08:01:21 PM »
Does anyone have any advice for a nice hard wheel for street that is good for power slides and isn't unusable on not so perfect roads?  My stf v3's are getting small after 8 months of hill bombs and powerslides and I'm looking for my next set.  How do spitfire f4 101a and those Ricta nrg 101's compare to stfs in regard to slidablility, grip, speed,  and handling on somewhat rough surfaces?

Just stick to stf.  I try lots of wheels.  The rebound keeps you going.  Everything else slows down considerably more when you hit the less perfect asphalt or metal grating etc.  Can't speak on the rictas and want to try some.

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« Reply #355 on: September 07, 2016, 08:06:51 AM »
I'd be interested in trying out those new AG sml. wheels whenever they come out. 
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« Reply #356 on: September 07, 2016, 08:44:32 AM »
Is there a new Ag formula? The second Grocery Bag series they did is the best wheel I have ever had.
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« Reply #357 on: September 07, 2016, 09:11:28 AM »
Yea I have the AG formula "Grocery Bag" v-cuts and I loooooove these things.
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« Reply #358 on: September 07, 2016, 09:19:55 AM »
Is there a new Ag formula? The second Grocery Bag series they did is the best wheel I have ever had.



I like the look of the wider shape on the right
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« Reply #359 on: September 07, 2016, 10:06:19 AM »
Is there a new Ag formula? The second Grocery Bag series they did is the best wheel I have ever had.



I like the look of the wider shape on the right
That's the v-cut, same thing I have just different graphics. They're similar to conical fulls.
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