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« Reply #570 on: April 01, 2017, 02:16:13 AM »
im gonna have to intervene and say everyone has their taste and i cant back rictas, tried a set of NRG sandovals and they were fast no doubt but hard as rocks, and not even slidy hard. just plain hard.

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#1 bones stf(good grip, slide, and fast. theyre like a cruiser street wheel)
#2 mini logo A cut/maybe even the c cut 101a wheels(theyre such a nice classic street wheel feel with such good grip and feel, better than spit classics)
#3 spitfire  F4 either radial or classics
#4 i wanna say girl/chocolate wheels but i gotta get another set again, i think they felt like the mini logo 101a

other wheels ive tried(gold, spit classic, pig, ricta nrg, bones 100, and im forgetting one...) have nothing on these, also the mini logo really arent the same formula as bones 100 with a different name.

Mini logos are grippy but then all of a sudden slip out without warning IMO. Formula Fours are way more predictable and easier to slide but still grippy enough. Perfect. Unless you're on rough terrain. Then you'll need something softer (which is also sadly grippier).

I barely skate parks and I'm 90% on the streets, spitfire formula four 99 or 101 aren't as forgiving on street and aren't as fast as bones stf. When you skate on formula fours for days and try stf it's such a crazy difference, I rode formula fours for like 2 years and I was dead set on them then wondered why i dropped stf and tried them again and noticed they feel way smoother and faster

I've never skated Bones wheels. Something about the image just puts me off so I never tried them. Also streets here in Finland are mostly so crusty that you're not gonna have fun skating around with hard wheels. Even 54 mm 86A Keyframes feel too hard at some points. Skating from spot to spot just isn't all that fun on hard wheels sadly and skating at a spot with soft wheels sucks as well. I'm not opposed to trying some Bones wheels but so far I haven't really seen a reason to try them out I guess.

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« Reply #571 on: April 01, 2017, 07:12:46 AM »
Spitfire F4 Classics in 54mm for the past three years. I only have to get new wheels every 2-3 months instead of monthly. I kind of want to try something new, so does anyone fuck with PFC?
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #572 on: April 01, 2017, 07:16:02 AM »
in the same boat, need new wheels in the next month or two, tempted to try to something else but i feel like i'll instantly regret it

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #573 on: April 01, 2017, 07:55:59 AM »
Spitfire F4 Classics in 54mm for the past three years. I only have to get new wheels every 2-3 months instead of monthly. I kind of want to try something new, so does anyone fuck with PFC?
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« Reply #574 on: April 01, 2017, 03:57:15 PM »
I've been on an F4 101 Radial Slim kick for the last year.  I've been riding 52's pretty religiously but wanted to try something different that wasn't too drastic, so I've got some F4 99 Conical 53's on the way.  I'm hoping to have a tranny setup (I suck at tranny and really want to get better before age get's the best of me) and a street setup.  I'll set the Conicals up on the bigger board and put my Radial Slims with a ton of life left on the smaller setup.

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« Reply #575 on: April 01, 2017, 05:02:00 PM »
im gonna have to intervene and say everyone has their taste and i cant back rictas, tried a set of NRG sandovals and they were fast no doubt but hard as rocks, and not even slidy hard. just plain hard.

wheels i can back

#1 bones stf(good grip, slide, and fast. theyre like a cruiser street wheel)
#2 mini logo A cut/maybe even the c cut 101a wheels(theyre such a nice classic street wheel feel with such good grip and feel, better than spit classics)
#3 spitfire  F4 either radial or classics
#4 i wanna say girl/chocolate wheels but i gotta get another set again, i think they felt like the mini logo 101a

other wheels ive tried(gold, spit classic, pig, ricta nrg, bones 100, and im forgetting one...) have nothing on these, also the mini logo really arent the same formula as bones 100 with a different name.

Mini logos are grippy but then all of a sudden slip out without warning IMO. Formula Fours are way more predictable and easier to slide but still grippy enough. Perfect. Unless you're on rough terrain. Then you'll need something softer (which is also sadly grippier).

I barely skate parks and I'm 90% on the streets, spitfire formula four 99 or 101 aren't as forgiving on street and aren't as fast as bones stf. When you skate on formula fours for days and try stf it's such a crazy difference, I rode formula fours for like 2 years and I was dead set on them then wondered why i dropped stf and tried them again and noticed they feel way smoother and faster

I've never skated Bones wheels. Something about the image just puts me off so I never tried them. Also streets here in Finland are mostly so crusty that you're not gonna have fun skating around with hard wheels. Even 54 mm 86A Keyframes feel too hard at some points. Skating from spot to spot just isn't all that fun on hard wheels sadly and skating at a spot with soft wheels sucks as well. I'm not opposed to trying some Bones wheels but so far I haven't really seen a reason to try them out I guess.

You really should give bones a shot! I was always against them for no reason, but there's plenty of reasons to drop some cash. They smooth out rough streets but still slide nice. Don't judge the wheel by its marketing lol.

I got some 55mm's, and they're the closest thing to a "cruiser street wheel" you'll ever ride.

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« Reply #576 on: April 01, 2017, 08:07:38 PM »
Yeah I always thought Bones were wack too, but I've been riding SPF on tranny for like half a year now and they're pretty perfect. Never slip out, nice screeching slide, and they make F4's seem sluggish. Definitely wanna try some STF's too.

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« Reply #577 on: April 02, 2017, 08:46:21 AM »
Maybe I'll give the Bones a shot sometime once my leg has healed up and I've ran out of Formula Fours. I doubt they'll be any good for the crusty streets here though.

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« Reply #578 on: April 02, 2017, 01:06:08 PM »
Maybe I'll give the Bones a shot sometime once my leg has healed up and I've ran out of Formula Fours. I doubt they'll be any good for the crusty streets here though.
I prefer bones stf's over f4's,there isn't that much difference between those two but I still like my bones little bit more as they being more grippy. Not sure what you meant by saying that you doubt for bones being any good for our shitty asphalt, they are as good as formula fours? If you want smooth ride here in Finland you have to have soft wheels under 90a duro and both f4's and stf's are hard as rock .... i tried both 99 and 101 f4' and ended up skating bones stf's again....
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #579 on: April 02, 2017, 01:17:29 PM »
Quote from: Krooked antihero  link=topic=82118.msg2627268#msg2627268 date=1491163568
Maybe I'll give the Bones a shot sometime once my leg has healed up and I've ran out of Formula Fours. I doubt they'll be any good for the crusty streets here though.
I prefer bones stf's over f4's,there isn't that much difference between those two but I still like my bones little bit more as they being more grippy. Not sure what you meant by saying that you doubt for bones being any good for our shitty asphalt, they are as good as formula fours? If you want smooth ride here in Finland you have to have soft wheels under 90a duro and both f4's and stf's are hard as rock .... i tried both 99 and 101 f4' and ended up skating bones stf's again....

The guys were suggesting that they are better for rough terrain than Formula Fours and I was just stating that I don't think they'd work nicely here at all like you just confirmed. I've got 86A Keyframes on my other set up for a smoother ride and I just set up a cruiser with 78A Ricta Clouds to have an even smoother ride when my leg is good enough for skating again.

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« Reply #580 on: April 02, 2017, 03:39:45 PM »
Hey guys, I'm here trying to choose between a set of OJ's Insaneathane and this new Croupie brand. They are priced the same (the OJ's are on sale) so I'm kinda divided. Safest bet would be probably the OJ's but I also would love to give Tiago Lemos, Carlos Ribeiro and friends some money...

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #581 on: April 02, 2017, 04:09:40 PM »
Hey guys, I'm here trying to choose between a set of OJ's Insaneathane and this new Croupie brand. They are priced the same (the OJ's are on sale) so I'm kinda divided. Safest bet would be probably the OJ's but I also would love to give Tiago Lemos, Carlos Ribeiro and friends some money...

Trust me with this, OJ insane a thane feel like a slower bones stf, so get the croupie. I heard they're pretty legit.
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #582 on: April 02, 2017, 04:32:42 PM »
Hey guys, I'm here trying to choose between a set of OJ's Insaneathane and this new Croupie brand. They are priced the same (the OJ's are on sale) so I'm kinda divided. Safest bet would be probably the OJ's but I also would love to give Tiago Lemos, Carlos Ribeiro and friends some money...

Trust me with this, OJ insane a thane feel like a slower bones stf, so get the croupie. I heard they're pretty legit.

Actually after making the post I just said fuck it and went with the Crupie ones! If they are good enough for Tiago, who rides rough brazilian ground, then they're good for me.  :)

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« Reply #583 on: April 02, 2017, 05:28:02 PM »
Hey guys, I'm here trying to choose between a set of OJ's Insaneathane and this new Croupie brand. They are priced the same (the OJ's are on sale) so I'm kinda divided. Safest bet would be probably the OJ's but I also would love to give Tiago Lemos, Carlos Ribeiro and friends some money...

Trust me with this, OJ insane a thane feel like a slower bones stf, so get the croupie. I heard they're pretty legit.

Actually after making the post I just said fuck it and went with the Crupie ones! If they are good enough for Tiago, who rides rough brazilian ground, then they're good for me.  :)
Better choice. I went for the 101a 54mm e-z shape. Slippery as hell in the beginning but now they feel slow and are a drag to slide.
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #584 on: April 02, 2017, 11:28:31 PM »
on my second set of spitfires and a major problem is that the bearings are hard to remove and put in.

are rictas better?

if not, what brands are good for this purpose?

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #585 on: April 03, 2017, 02:43:28 AM »
on my second set of spitfires and a major problem is that the bearings are hard to remove and put in.

are rictas better?

if not, what brands are good for this purpose?
Bones stf's, sometimes bearings just fall off when you remove wheels from axle.
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #586 on: April 03, 2017, 04:16:51 AM »
Quote from: Krooked antihero  link=topic=82118.msg2627490#msg2627490 date=1491212608
on my second set of spitfires and a major problem is that the bearings are hard to remove and put in.

are rictas better?

if not, what brands are good for this purpose?
Bones stf's, sometimes bearings just fall off when you remove wheels from axle.

Bones stf all the way
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #587 on: April 03, 2017, 06:08:22 AM »
does anyone skate oj's as their main street wheel? seems like a really unpopular choice? I guess they make their money of those keyframe wheels and cruisers

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #588 on: April 03, 2017, 07:38:24 AM »
Quote from: Krooked antihero  link=topic=82118.msg2627490#msg2627490 date=1491212608
on my second set of spitfires and a major problem is that the bearings are hard to remove and put in.

are rictas better?

if not, what brands are good for this purpose?
Bones stf's, sometimes bearings just fall off when you remove wheels from axle.

Bones stf all the way

this is annoying of me but i also won't do bones since the only bones i can find are 100 and up durometer and i want 99. any wheel brands that are good for bearing maintenance that are 99 ?

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« Reply #589 on: April 03, 2017, 08:26:00 AM »
Quote from: Krooked antihero  link=topic=82118.msg2627490#msg2627490 date=1491212608
on my second set of spitfires and a major problem is that the bearings are hard to remove and put in.

are rictas better?

if not, what brands are good for this purpose?
Bones stf's, sometimes bearings just fall off when you remove wheels from axle.

Bones stf all the way

this is annoying of me but i also won't do bones since the only bones i can find are 100 and up durometer and i want 99. any wheel brands that are good for bearing maintenance that are 99 ?

does anyone have experience with the ricta nyjah gold core white 53mm in regards to bearing input and output?

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« Reply #590 on: April 03, 2017, 09:03:10 AM »
Quote from: Krooked antihero  link=topic=82118.msg2627490#msg2627490 date=1491212608
on my second set of spitfires and a major problem is that the bearings are hard to remove and put in.

are rictas better?

if not, what brands are good for this purpose?
Bones stf's, sometimes bearings just fall off when you remove wheels from axle.

Bones stf all the way

this is annoying of me but i also won't do bones since the only bones i can find are 100 and up durometer and i want 99. any wheel brands that are good for bearing maintenance that are 99 ?

does anyone have experience with the ricta nyjah gold core white 53mm in regards to bearing input and output?
Not with those specific wheels but my rictas were the biggest pain in the ass to get my bearings in and out of.

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« Reply #591 on: April 03, 2017, 09:44:38 AM »
Quote from: Krooked antihero  link=topic=82118.msg2627490#msg2627490 date=1491212608
on my second set of spitfires and a major problem is that the bearings are hard to remove and put in.

are rictas better?

if not, what brands are good for this purpose?
Bones stf's, sometimes bearings just fall off when you remove wheels from axle.

Bones stf all the way

this is annoying of me but i also won't do bones since the only bones i can find are 100 and up durometer and i want 99. any wheel brands that are good for bearing maintenance that are 99 ?

does anyone have experience with the ricta nyjah gold core white 53mm in regards to bearing input and output?
Not with those specific wheels but my rictas were the biggest pain in the ass to get my bearings in and out of.

thanmks for the input. what rictas do u have?

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #592 on: April 03, 2017, 09:55:13 AM »
I had the 53mm Park Crushers. My favorite wheel ever that they don't make anymore. They were 83b instead of 81b.

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« Reply #593 on: April 03, 2017, 04:30:37 PM »
does anyone skate oj's as their main street wheel? seems like a really unpopular choice? I guess they make their money of those keyframe wheels and cruisers

Trust, the insane a thane 101 feel about like a bones stf but they're slow, you gotta push and push and push to get anywhere. They're not bad feeling they're just annoyingly slow.

on my second set of spitfires and a major problem is that the bearings are hard to remove and put in.

are rictas better?

if not, what brands are good for this purpose?
Bones stf's, sometimes bearings just fall off when you remove wheels from axle.

Bones stf all the way

this is annoying of me but i also won't do bones since the only bones i can find are 100 and up durometer and i want 99. any wheel brands that are good for bearing maintenance that are 99 ?

There was a thing somewhere(I think that ratvision skate videos guy) who said that the durometer of a wheel doesn't do justice, it's the formula. It's true too cause I swear my stf are smoother and softer than my spit classic 99a, the classics are so slick and stiff
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« Reply #594 on: April 03, 2017, 04:53:58 PM »
Absolutely, formula means a lot more than durometer. Bones stf's feel softer than 99a F4's too..

OJ's formula is hard and slow. Even their 92a ditch witches feel as hard as F4s. Shits all fucked up. My favourite formula is still 101a F4, it just feels right. I like bones but they're almost too easy to slide

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« Reply #595 on: April 03, 2017, 06:34:07 PM »
I've been into soft wheels lately, I had some ricta clouds, the 86a ones and they were a little too soft and bouncy, plus they were super wide and just felt really bulky.  I switched up to some Autobahn Torus 54's, they're 90a and feel just right so far.  Thinner and grippy, softer than most wheels without feeling like a longboard. 

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« Reply #596 on: April 03, 2017, 07:39:20 PM »
I've been into soft wheels lately, I had some ricta clouds, the 86a ones and they were a little too soft and bouncy, plus they were super wide and just felt really bulky.  I switched up to some Autobahn Torus 54's, they're 90a and feel just right so far.  Thinner and grippy, softer than most wheels without feeling like a longboard. 

Regarding the Autobahn Torus 54s, are bearings reasonably easy to install and take out? Thank you for the commentary.

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« Reply #597 on: April 03, 2017, 08:29:48 PM »
I haven't had any problems taking out the bearings.  Usually harder wheels are tougher for me to pull them out of, but these ones are a little more flexible.

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« Reply #598 on: April 04, 2017, 05:44:13 AM »
I've been into soft wheels lately, I had some ricta clouds, the 86a ones and they were a little too soft and bouncy, plus they were super wide and just felt really bulky.  I switched up to some Autobahn Torus 54's, they're 90a and feel just right so far.  Thinner and grippy, softer than most wheels without feeling like a longboard. 

Regarding the Autobahn Torus 54s, are bearings reasonably easy to install and take out? Thank you for the commentary.

Dude, the bearings being hard to set up/remove is a good thing! It means that they will fit nice and snug in the wheel and you will not have any issues with the bearing socket slackening. You are probably using a wrong technique. I don't know much about longboard wheels but regarding the regular street skating ones that I have been using all my life, if you have a decent set of wheels it should be impossible to install the bearings using only pressure from your fingertips. You have to set the board sideways, place a bearing on the trucks and use your body weight to slam the wheel down.
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« Reply #599 on: April 04, 2017, 09:50:35 AM »
I'm a fan of the OJ insane-a-thane (stupid marketing be damned), hardline shape. I don't find them slow at all compared to STFs in a park setting, quite the opposite; SPF over OJs in park all day tho. They 'regular' OJs are slow and soft in parks but feel just fine on regular street, like wayward and f4s.

STFs still feel weird tho.