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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #630 on: April 21, 2017, 12:44:07 PM »
101a conical full  ;D

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« Reply #631 on: April 21, 2017, 03:10:10 PM »
101a conical full  ;D
101s are perrrrrect. ive been riding the classic 101s 53mm and they slide when i need to and not when i dont



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« Reply #632 on: April 21, 2017, 03:14:09 PM »
101 radial slims are sooo good tho.

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« Reply #633 on: April 21, 2017, 06:12:15 PM »
how do stf v5s stack up against say formula fours? rocked some 56mm stf v5s for a year and need a new set, dunno whether to grab another set of stfs (probably 54's), try formula fours or maybe give spfs or even speedlab a shot.

I went from the 99a Classic shape Formula 4s to V5 Bones. The Bones definitely feel more slippery and plasticky. As for an accurate comparison, just picked up 101a Conical Fulls off skatewarehouse

Maybe at a park but I skate street almost everyday and bones stf feel way smoother and faster than formula fours. Formula fours on street are slower and rattle 99 or 101. If you push around streets with each on different setups for like 10 min each you'll notice what I'm saying, I was riding formula fours and swore they were the best wheels for 2 years then I switched around back to stf and best switch I've made, so much faster and smoother and grippier. The formula fours are for easy slides even when your rolling slow cause power slides before were usually only done bombing a hill or slowing down after picking up speed landing a trick but not the way we do it now just sliding around with trendy tricks and trying to slow down with style before you hit a ledge or curb, if you skate street/ harsh actual asphalt and rough cement streets bones stf, if you just skate at the park I think whatever you like is good cause the floors all Nice and smooth
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« Reply #634 on: April 24, 2017, 10:23:43 AM »
word the stfs are pretty plasticky, when i first got mine i was cruising down my street and chucked the first powerslide on em and ate shit so fucking bad. after looking around i think im gonna get some spfs but im on the line about sizes; i got away with 56mm stfs on thunder 149 team hi's and 1/4 pig risers but i dunno if i should go 56 again or make a jump to some nice looking 60mm schroeder spfs. most likely be on an 8.38 and i mostly skate transition with the occasional street spot thrown in, just wondering what sort of riser setup/bolts i'd need, probably a 1/2 inch riser and the 1 1/2 inch bolts?

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« Reply #635 on: April 24, 2017, 10:17:57 PM »
A quarter inch riser should suffice (1 1/4th hardware). I had 149's with 59mm hard wheels and I had them super loose--1/4th was fine

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« Reply #636 on: April 25, 2017, 03:43:37 AM »
oh word nice, i didnt know 1 1/4th hardware existed it seems nowhere localish stocks it - was running 1 inch bolts on 1/4 risers and had to periodically tighten em up or the fuckers would come loose, lost a few bolts cus of that. still unsure if 60 would be too big for myself but fuck it.

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« Reply #637 on: April 25, 2017, 05:17:19 AM »
Yeah I dunno, I skate a lot tranny too and the biggest I can go is 56mm. Any bigger and I can't flip my board well. Also like loose trucks and not a fan of big ass risers (1/8th is ok though)

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« Reply #638 on: April 25, 2017, 10:53:18 AM »
how do stf v5s stack up against say formula fours? rocked some 56mm stf v5s for a year and need a new set, dunno whether to grab another set of stfs (probably 54's), try formula fours or maybe give spfs or even speedlab a shot.

I went from the 99a Classic shape Formula 4s to V5 Bones. The Bones definitely feel more slippery and plasticky. As for an accurate comparison, just picked up 101a Conical Fulls off skatewarehouse

Maybe at a park but I skate street almost everyday and bones stf feel way smoother and faster than formula fours. Formula fours on street are slower and rattle 99 or 101. If you push around streets with each on different setups for like 10 min each you'll notice what I'm saying, I was riding formula fours and swore they were the best wheels for 2 years then I switched around back to stf and best switch I've made, so much faster and smoother and grippier. The formula fours are for easy slides even when your rolling slow cause power slides before were usually only done bombing a hill or slowing down after picking up speed landing a trick but not the way we do it now just sliding around with trendy tricks and trying to slow down with style before you hit a ledge or curb, if you skate street/ harsh actual asphalt and rough cement streets bones stf, if you just skate at the park I think whatever you like is good cause the floors all Nice and smooth

Alright, got the Spitfires. Haven't done much because of school and work but, feel better than the EZ edge OJs. Could be the hype to be back on Spitfire but I felt faster and slides are way easier, I can actually get my front wheels to slide instead of having to pump or revert.
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« Reply #639 on: April 29, 2017, 11:08:53 AM »
how do stf v5s stack up against say formula fours? rocked some 56mm stf v5s for a year and need a new set, dunno whether to grab another set of stfs (probably 54's), try formula fours or maybe give spfs or even speedlab a shot.

I went from the 99a Classic shape Formula 4s to V5 Bones. The Bones definitely feel more slippery and plasticky. As for an accurate comparison, just picked up 101a Conical Fulls off skatewarehouse

The V5/P5 (OJ Hardline) is one of my favorite shapes for wheels (barring the Spit AWOL, come on DLX, bring it back).

It's apples to oranges, you couldn't have more of a different feel between wheels.

For me, if I'm skating smooth street, let's say a park setting, good parking lots, whatever, STFs (hell for park street skating only I'd go spfs). Shitty streets and harsh terrain, F4s (or wayward/regular OJs all the way) as they're hard, slide and grip but they are a tad bit forgiving when it comes to rattle as they feel softer to me than STFs.
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #640 on: May 01, 2017, 08:18:37 PM »
word the stfs are pretty plasticky, when i first got mine i was cruising down my street and chucked the first powerslide on em and ate shit so fucking bad. after looking around i think im gonna get some spfs but im on the line about sizes; i got away with 56mm stfs on thunder 149 team hi's and 1/4 pig risers but i dunno if i should go 56 again or make a jump to some nice looking 60mm schroeder spfs. most likely be on an 8.38 and i mostly skate transition with the occasional street spot thrown in, just wondering what sort of riser setup/bolts i'd need, probably a 1/2 inch riser and the 1 1/2 inch bolts?

I bought half inch risers once. I've never found a use for them that 1/4" risers don't meet.

1/2" risers are 12.5mm. So running 1/2" risers for 60mm gives the same ratio as riding 47.5mm wheels with no risers - maybe a bit overkill.

1/4" risers with 60mm means you're running the equivalent of 54mm with no risers.

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« Reply #641 on: May 01, 2017, 08:50:59 PM »
word the stfs are pretty plasticky, when i first got mine i was cruising down my street and chucked the first powerslide on em and ate shit so fucking bad. after looking around i think im gonna get some spfs but im on the line about sizes; i got away with 56mm stfs on thunder 149 team hi's and 1/4 pig risers but i dunno if i should go 56 again or make a jump to some nice looking 60mm schroeder spfs. most likely be on an 8.38 and i mostly skate transition with the occasional street spot thrown in, just wondering what sort of riser setup/bolts i'd need, probably a 1/2 inch riser and the 1 1/2 inch bolts?

I bought half inch risers once. I've never found a use for them that 1/4" risers don't meet.

1/2" risers are 12.5mm. So running 1/2" risers for 60mm gives the same ratio as riding 47.5mm wheels with no risers - maybe a bit overkill.

1/4" risers with 60mm means you're running the equivalent of 54mm with no risers.

Actually, the difference in 54 mm and 60 mm wheels is 6 mm, but only half of that (3 mm) is between the axle and the board, so a 1/8" (3.175 mm) riser would give you about the same clearance on a 60 mm wheel as a 54 mm wheel with no riser.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #642 on: May 01, 2017, 11:27:48 PM »
word the stfs are pretty plasticky, when i first got mine i was cruising down my street and chucked the first powerslide on em and ate shit so fucking bad. after looking around i think im gonna get some spfs but im on the line about sizes; i got away with 56mm stfs on thunder 149 team hi's and 1/4 pig risers but i dunno if i should go 56 again or make a jump to some nice looking 60mm schroeder spfs. most likely be on an 8.38 and i mostly skate transition with the occasional street spot thrown in, just wondering what sort of riser setup/bolts i'd need, probably a 1/2 inch riser and the 1 1/2 inch bolts?

I bought half inch risers once. I've never found a use for them that 1/4" risers don't meet.

1/2" risers are 12.5mm. So running 1/2" risers for 60mm gives the same ratio as riding 47.5mm wheels with no risers - maybe a bit overkill.

1/4" risers with 60mm means you're running the equivalent of 54mm with no risers.

Actually, the difference in 54 mm and 60 mm wheels is 6 mm, but only half of that (3 mm) is between the axle and the board, so a 1/8" (3.175 mm) riser would give you about the same clearance on a 60 mm wheel as a 54 mm wheel with no riser.

holy fuck i can't believe i never thought of that

I've been calculating it wrong for like 3 years now.

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« Reply #643 on: May 02, 2017, 07:46:07 AM »
word the stfs are pretty plasticky, when i first got mine i was cruising down my street and chucked the first powerslide on em and ate shit so fucking bad. after looking around i think im gonna get some spfs but im on the line about sizes; i got away with 56mm stfs on thunder 149 team hi's and 1/4 pig risers but i dunno if i should go 56 again or make a jump to some nice looking 60mm schroeder spfs. most likely be on an 8.38 and i mostly skate transition with the occasional street spot thrown in, just wondering what sort of riser setup/bolts i'd need, probably a 1/2 inch riser and the 1 1/2 inch bolts?

I bought half inch risers once. I've never found a use for them that 1/4" risers don't meet.

1/2" risers are 12.5mm. So running 1/2" risers for 60mm gives the same ratio as riding 47.5mm wheels with no risers - maybe a bit overkill.

1/4" risers with 60mm means you're running the equivalent of 54mm with no risers.

Actually, the difference in 54 mm and 60 mm wheels is 6 mm, but only half of that (3 mm) is between the axle and the board, so a 1/8" (3.175 mm) riser would give you about the same clearance on a 60 mm wheel as a 54 mm wheel with no riser.

holy fuck i can't believe i never thought of that

I've been calculating it wrong for like 3 years now.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #644 on: May 10, 2017, 09:50:38 PM »
Quick question about Wayward wheels if anyone knows.

What's closer to a spitfire classic shape, Wayward round shape or slim?

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« Reply #645 on: May 11, 2017, 08:02:58 AM »
whatever shape Wayward's standard shape is (I'm guessing the 'round'), it's very close to the classic Spitfire shape... the wayward standard may have a lil bit wider riding-area, but not much.

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« Reply #646 on: May 13, 2017, 04:16:23 PM »
Quick question about Wayward wheels if anyone knows.

What's closer to a spitfire classic shape, Wayward round shape or slim?

The slim (the round is much wider than the spit classic, think classic full, which they discontinued, so those of you who loved'em, grab some waywards ;) I compared both side by side when buying my waywards and couldn't pull the trigger on the round cuts, had to go with the slims.

Left 52mm spit classic, right 52mm wayward slim.



Notes:

- Wayward roundcut  slims are a hair slimmer than the F4 classic shape, yet wider than the spit classic slim (which I think are also discontinued?)

- Spits and waywards (and bones) increase in width and riding surface as you increase in height:



Measurements to compare the round cut and classic (wawards site doesn't have a table for the slim wheel for some reason).




101 Spits and wayward are damn near identical in feel but i'd give the edge to spits when it comes to slide and wayward in terms of grip, tho it could be that the waywards just feel a tad softer (to me anyway) both great for shitty terrain - wayards will stay whiter it seems. The funnel shape looks pretty bad-ass..
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #647 on: May 13, 2017, 07:53:52 PM »
Quick question about Wayward wheels if anyone knows.

What's closer to a spitfire classic shape, Wayward round shape or slim?

The slim (the round is much wider than the spit classic, think classic full, which they discontinued, so those of you who loved'em, grab some waywards ;) I compared both side by side when buying my waywards and couldn't pull the trigger on the round cuts, had to go with the slims.

Left 52mm spit classic, right 52mm wayward slim.



Notes:

- Wayward roundcut  slims are a hair slimmer than the F4 classic shape, yet wider than the spit classic slim (which I think are also discontinued?)

- Spits and waywards (and bones) increase in width and riding surface as you increase in height:



Measurements to compare the round cut and classic (wawards site doesn't have a table for the slim wheel for some reason).




101 Spits and wayward are damn near identical in feel but i'd give the edge to spits when it comes to slide and wayward in terms of grip, tho it could be that the waywards just feel a tad softer (to me anyway) both great for shitty terrain - wayards will stay whiter it seems. The funnel shape looks pretty bad-ass..

Xen you are the man! looms like I'll be picking up a set of 52 slims then.

Even better too  because the round cuts I can get are 99a and these slims are 101A.
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #648 on: May 14, 2017, 03:22:30 AM »
I'm officially in the market for some new wheels. Thinking about getting these because they're cheap and I'm one broke motherfucker
http://www.skatewarehouse.com/Autobahn_Nexus_AB-S_100A_Wheels/descpage-ABNABWH.html
I've heard good things about autobahn but I'm pretty sure these are just their normal run of the mill formula/pricepoint formula as opposed to their more fancy formula wheels that everyone praises. How are these when it comes to durability and feel? Would it be a good investment or should I go with something else?

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« Reply #649 on: May 18, 2017, 10:01:16 AM »
I'm thinking g about getting crupie's. Team/overall vibe are sick! Anyone have these?

I've been hyped off them too I Got a set of the Carlos ribeiro wheels in 54mm coming in the mail. I'm looking forward to trying them out I'll post in here after I've skated em for a bit

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« Reply #650 on: May 18, 2017, 01:04:31 PM »
Has anyone tried Muckefuck wheels?

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« Reply #651 on: May 18, 2017, 03:34:27 PM »
Has anyone tried Muckefuck wheels?
Go for it! Really good wheels and sick team. They laaaaast, are fast, slide good, never had a flatspot (I had the Jorge Simoes 52mm cored wheel). Never heard a complain about them and they were kinda popular in my area. My set of wheels was 1 year old and they were like 50mm still, crazy durable. The

I'm thinking g about getting crupie's. Team/overall vibe are sick! Anyone have these?

I've been hyped off them too I Got a set of the Carlos ribeiro wheels in 54mm coming in the mail. I'm looking forward to trying them out I'll post in here after I've skated em for a bit
About the Crupies, I have the Carlos Ribeiro 53mm right now on my setup and after about 1 month I cant complain. I havent been skating as much as I want but they feel fast, probably faster than the Muckefucks I had, but they also feel harder, which I like. I've skated in Parks with smooth grounds and they arent super slippery. They slide good when doing tailslides and such, and seem durable too because I can still see a little of the ridges you have on a new wheel.
I feel that for the price they ask they're probably the best wheel out there, price-value wise. A Spit formula four or some Bones cost like 50 euros or more in europe, while those were 30 and they feel really good. The team has some people that I want to support too so that's a bonus.

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« Reply #652 on: May 18, 2017, 07:13:05 PM »
Has anyone tried Muckefuck wheels?
Go for it! Really good wheels and sick team. They laaaaast, are fast, slide good, never had a flatspot (I had the Jorge Simoes 52mm cored wheel). Never heard a complain about them and they were kinda popular in my area. My set of wheels was 1 year old and they were like 50mm still, crazy durable. The


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« Reply #653 on: May 18, 2017, 09:32:47 PM »
just got some 52mm ricta clouds (the hardest ones). They feel fucking incredible but are a little big for my board. Gonna throw them on a cruiser setup and film with them till they're like 50s

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« Reply #654 on: May 18, 2017, 11:52:28 PM »
Just been out in Tokyo and get the 99s anyone heading out there. Shits crusty as fuck

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« Reply #655 on: June 01, 2017, 10:47:47 PM »
Just rode wayward wheels (101A) for the first time and they feel almost exactly like my 101 formula 4s but crisper if that makes sense.


Defo backing this company!

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« Reply #656 on: June 02, 2017, 12:02:52 AM »
Just rode wayward wheels (101A) for the first time and they feel almost exactly like my 101 formula 4s but crisper if that makes sense.


Defo backing this company!
Are they grippy at all or do they feel like out-of-control slide? I'm definitely interested in getting a set.
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« Reply #657 on: June 02, 2017, 12:24:31 AM »
How do fools rock 101a? Slides around on parks, and feels every bump when it's rough. Can anyone explain, because I've never understood the appeal? 99a only for me.

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« Reply #658 on: June 02, 2017, 02:20:46 AM »
How do fools rock 101a? Slides around on parks, and feels every bump when it's rough. Can anyone explain, because I've never understood the appeal? 99a only for me.

101As never bother me when I ride as far the teeth rattling.


Also These Waywards feel only the slightest bit more slippery than the formula 4s but also have tons of grip for a wheel that slides this good.


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« Reply #659 on: June 02, 2017, 09:08:47 AM »
I'm going back and forth between radial slims and classic slims, both 99. I was doing a lot of power slides to stop myself the last couple days and it feels like the radials are more slippery than the classics, maybe cause the classics are older and more at the sweet spot so to speak? I have no idea. But I definitely wanna stick with slim wheels, hopefully my local will get waywards in eventually.
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