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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #690 on: July 03, 2017, 04:16:43 PM »
I wish so dearly that DLX made 60mm+ F4s. Can anybody recommend a bigger wheel that slides as well as an F4 or even close
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« Reply #691 on: July 03, 2017, 04:29:28 PM »
I wish so dearly that DLX made 60mm+ F4s. Can anybody recommend a bigger wheel that slides as well as an F4 or even close
 to it?

It's not 60mm+ but the 55mm waywards are going to be your best bet.

https://www.waywardwheels.com/collections/wheels/products/pinnacle-wheel-brophy-55

PEople hate on them, but regular formula OJs aren't half bad; I find them to feel slow, exactly the same feeling I get when skating F4s or Waywards (I like crazy hard wheels).
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #692 on: July 03, 2017, 04:34:25 PM »
I've got some 58mm 99a F4s, that pretty close!

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #693 on: July 03, 2017, 04:35:41 PM »
« Last Edit: July 03, 2017, 04:38:34 PM by Xen »

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« Reply #694 on: July 03, 2017, 05:05:21 PM »
^ Been on those for a while, hoping it's not as good as it gets but it might be

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« Reply #695 on: July 07, 2017, 04:07:09 PM »
Hey is it me or do bearing spacers slow you down ? They silent the roll but make your wheels slower.

Went back to try my favorite spit classic 99a this time without bearing spacers and they rolled way smoother and faster.

I think the hype on spacers was only with the race reds
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #696 on: July 07, 2017, 05:45:32 PM »
Hey is it me or do bearing spacers slow you down ? They silent the roll but make your wheels slower.

Went back to try my favorite spit classic 99a this time without bearing spacers and they rolled way smoother and faster.

I think the hype on spacers was only with the race reds

Spacers are for longboarders who regularly go past 60mph.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #697 on: July 07, 2017, 05:54:18 PM »
Hey is it me or do bearing spacers slow you down ? They silent the roll but make your wheels slower.

Went back to try my favorite spit classic 99a this time without bearing spacers and they rolled way smoother and faster.

I think the hype on spacers was only with the race reds

Spacers are for longboarders who regularly go past 60mph.

Spacers play a big part in getting optimal performance out of your bearings dont play yourselves by not using them

https://stokedskateboards.com/knowledge-base/why-bearing-spacers-really-matter.html

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #698 on: July 07, 2017, 07:48:23 PM »
Hey is it me or do bearing spacers slow you down ? They silent the roll but make your wheels slower.

Went back to try my favorite spit classic 99a this time without bearing spacers and they rolled way smoother and faster.

I think the hype on spacers was only with the race reds

Spacers are for longboarders who regularly go past 60mph.

Spacers play a big part in getting optimal performance out of your bearings dont play yourselves by not using them

https://stokedskateboards.com/knowledge-base/why-bearing-spacers-really-matter.html

Every example pic used a longboard wheel,

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #699 on: July 07, 2017, 08:01:19 PM »
from s and b

"Spacers allow you to avoid torsional load that causes bearings to blow out or seize. They also aid in keeping the bearings true for ultimate performance which also means they will last longer as they are not being subjected to undue stresses."

"Everyone who knows what a spacer does uses them. I always use them. They also help keep your bearings from unseating?if the spacer is the correct dimensions. "

That said I have never had an issue with my bearings since I started using spacers 12 years ago, but prior to... my bearings never lasted one month.

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« Reply #700 on: July 07, 2017, 09:37:48 PM »
Spacers are the truth.

Been riding OJ's regular formula 99 and 101. I like them. I like Spitfire F4 too, just felt like a change. OJ's have great shapes.

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« Reply #701 on: July 07, 2017, 11:09:38 PM »
from s and b

"Spacers allow you to avoid torsional load that causes bearings to blow out or seize. They also aid in keeping the bearings true for ultimate performance which also means they will last longer as they are not being subjected to undue stresses."

"Everyone who knows what a spacer does uses them. I always use them. They also help keep your bearings from unseating?if the spacer is the correct dimensions. "

That said I have never had an issue with my bearings since I started using spacers 12 years ago, but prior to... my bearings never lasted one month.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #702 on: July 09, 2017, 12:38:09 AM »
Did anybody catch those a-symmetrical wheels Jim Thiebaud had on his insta story the other day?  Half conical Half straight/flat cut, were nicknamed "lock-ins" and said they were coming out to shops soon.  Don't know how I feel about it, anybody ever skated (not just cruised) a-symmetrical wheels?
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« Reply #703 on: July 09, 2017, 06:17:10 AM »
i've been skating the 54mm version of those for most of the year : https://consumestore.com/product/pillo-wheel-gang-deep-gurners-52mm-and-54mm

i don't know how familiar people on here might be with pillo wheels, they're a really small operation out of (old, not new) jersey, the british islands sandwiched in between the uk and france - luka pinto and glen fox ride for them, so maybe some of you will recognize the logo.

from the perspective of someone usually inclined toward spitfire wheels & bones stf's, i have to say those have been great to me. a lot of the spots and streets i skate are quite rough (old europe type of rough), despite which i usually stick to the hardest wheels i can find because i like doing reverts and lipslides and, instead, resort to larger wheels (54-56mm) in order to make up for the discomfort on the rough ground. those particular pillo's have some extra width which made everything feel a lot smoother in those regards. they slide less than the 101a's i'm generally used to, but perform well still, feeling more like 99a's (especially after some wear).

not many people skate those wheels (apparently the whole jersey scene is like 10 skaters) but seeing as some rad underground dudes rep them, i reckoned some of you might have seen the name float around in videos and the like, so i thought i'd comment on what the product is like.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #704 on: July 09, 2017, 10:22:09 AM »
Are Bones 54mm OG 100's V4 Wheels (100A) good for skating a bit of everything (mostly rugged)? I don't know shit about wheels specs and I just don't want to spend 40+ pounds.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #705 on: July 09, 2017, 03:41:38 PM »
any opinions on pig wheels? i found some for cheap, thinking about getting them but i'm not sure
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #706 on: July 09, 2017, 03:58:40 PM »
Did anybody catch those a-symmetrical wheels Jim Thiebaud had on his insta story the other day?  Half conical Half straight/flat cut, were nicknamed "lock-ins" and said they were coming out to shops soon.  Don't know how I feel about it, anybody ever skated (not just cruised) a-symmetrical wheels?

So they're making F4 versions of these?


If they're as wide as conical fulls i'd give them a shot

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #707 on: July 09, 2017, 08:35:05 PM »
Did anybody catch those a-symmetrical wheels Jim Thiebaud had on his insta story the other day?  Half conical Half straight/flat cut, were nicknamed "lock-ins" and said they were coming out to shops soon.  Don't know how I feel about it, anybody ever skated (not just cruised) a-symmetrical wheels?

So they're making F4 versions of these?


If they're as wide as conical fulls i'd give them a shot

Yea looked like that, graphic was sick it was a half swirl with "LOCK-INS" in old english, red and black
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #708 on: July 09, 2017, 10:19:45 PM »
Did anybody catch those a-symmetrical wheels Jim Thiebaud had on his insta story the other day?  Half conical Half straight/flat cut, were nicknamed "lock-ins" and said they were coming out to shops soon.  Don't know how I feel about it, anybody ever skated (not just cruised) a-symmetrical wheels?

So they're making F4 versions of these?


If they're as wide as conical fulls i'd give them a shot

Yea looked like that, graphic was sick it was a half swirl with "LOCK-INS" in old english, red and black
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #709 on: July 10, 2017, 01:52:31 AM »
any opinions on pig wheels? i found some for cheap, thinking about getting them but i'm not sure

Pigs are like a harder spit classic I feel. They have that feel like a classic but some some hardness that isn't that good feeling and is only there for durability. Cause you know flat spots and harder wheels are supposed to be faster


Bones 100 are ok but I wouldn't say they're worth it. Oddly I prefer mini logo over bones 100. They aren't the same formula even though they're both pp wheels from skate one. Mini logo feel almost exactly like a spit classic while bones 100 feel like a standard hard wheel with grip.
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #710 on: July 10, 2017, 08:33:42 AM »
I wish so dearly that DLX made 60mm+ F4s. Can anybody recommend a bigger wheel that slides as well as an F4 or even close
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We make F499 Classic Shape in 60mm!!

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« Reply #711 on: July 10, 2017, 08:45:36 AM »
idk about asymmetrical wheels

I have a tendency to flip them now and again so they don't cone out.

I do kinda like the idea of having two ways to run the same pair of wheels though

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #712 on: July 10, 2017, 12:37:16 PM »
the wheels i have on my cruiser are the bones rough riders i love them but the plastic core is starting to come apart. its been a year so i guess that's understandable but i'd like to find a wheel much like the rough rider but without the fused plastic core. any suggestions?

for my main board i ride bones stf v3 50mm and i love them but i flatspotted them reverting a 180 off a ramp


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« Reply #713 on: July 16, 2017, 08:09:49 AM »
Would it make sense to do a wheelshop thread?  How many factories are making wheels....how different are the formulas?

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« Reply #714 on: July 16, 2017, 09:36:20 AM »
Would it make sense to do a wheelshop thread?  How many factories are making wheels....how different are the formulas?

Would be interesting to see which brands come from the same factories. Crupie claims they can offer a premium wheel at a lower cost than other brands because they obtain everything straight from the source. I wonder if that same factory is doing other brands too and how much of an actual difference there is between the smaller wheel brands. Bones & spitfire obviously have their own formulas and all the marketing for them but do you guys think that there's other wheels out that are more or less the same formulas just with different branding?

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #715 on: July 16, 2017, 09:41:55 AM »
Would it make sense to do a wheelshop thread?  How many factories are making wheels....how different are the formulas?

Would be interesting to see which brands come from the same factories. Crupie claims they can offer a premium wheel at a lower cost than other brands because they obtain everything straight from the source. I wonder if that same factory is doing other brands too and how much of an actual difference there is between the smaller wheel brands. Bones & spitfire obviously have their own formulas and all the marketing for them but do you guys think that there's other wheels out that are more or less the same formulas just with different branding?

There can't be more than four or five big formulas (not counting all the price-point type stuff). Bones, spitfire, ricta, OJ, Powell.. All seem pretty distinct.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #716 on: July 16, 2017, 01:09:32 PM »
Don't forget about the worlds greatest urethane from wreck wheels, backed by testing in every category except the sales category.

So far formula fours are taking the market with bones second and OJ on the rise and ricta then maybe croupie or sml or whoever I'm forgetting
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« Reply #717 on: July 16, 2017, 04:38:59 PM »
I remember being convinced satoris were the best....those Ipaths went straight to my head....like when people on here say prize fighters! Small!  Autobahn!  They don't have their own factory and I bet there are only a few.....who's got the knowledge? 

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« Reply #718 on: July 16, 2017, 05:20:28 PM »
J Soy - I'd love to know that myself. With as much into the smaller wheel cos as I am, I don't know how many urethane shops there really are. My guess is not many.

There also seems to be some variation within the same company. I had a set of SML Garcia wides that were like skating on banana peels then I had SML Knox V-Cut that were like skating on soft bubblegum, and both were listed as 99A.


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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #719 on: July 16, 2017, 06:12:05 PM »
Trying out some speedlab 56 mm 97a side cut (ace pelka model)
Pretty grippy but slide surprisingly well. About as forgiving as stf on rough terrain, but without that rock hard plastic feeling.
I'll try and remember to mention how they do on some slick tranny, if my wrist ever fucking heals.
Really disappointed in how quick my spf clears are wearing down, is that just the clear or are the white formula more resistant?