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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #810 on: October 03, 2017, 08:45:00 PM »
I'm sure it should been brought up somewhere among this thread but the search never seems to be helpful... has any one tried Satori wheels? I'm a spitfire loyalist but they have this Marl Watson wheel I find interesting...
I had some satoris a couple of years back, they were a danny fuenzalida pro model and boy were they good wheels, slid super well and the slide was definitely really controlled and they lasted a long time. I would definitely recommend them

+1 for Satori, really underrated wheels. Almost impossible to find these days. I'm actually putting a set of Fuenz 52s on my next board. I was riding Satori Guru 82b and I loved those too but decided to size down from 54.

So I started skating again earlier this year and I've noticed that people seem to really like these conical shapes that a lot of companies are putting out. How are they better for street skating vs classic shaped wheels? Are they supposed to make riding over rough terrain easier or locking into slappy grinds easier?

That's a great question and truthfully it all comes down to personal preference. There is science behind contact patch and how it relates to controlling slides, etc., but it really is all about personal preference. I used to skate wide wheels and conical cuts but I love skinny wheels these days. My favorite wheel shape is thin with a tablet cut, Autobahn ABX and those Ricta NRG for instance. To your point, it does seem like wider wheels are all the rage at the moment.

Same here, don't forget Bones V2s (thinking about grabbing a set as all the ricta nrg/naturals are getting wiiiiiide too =(

Are you talking about riding surface or the width of the wheel? I recently had an unopened set of 54mm stf v5s and an unopened set of 53mm stf v2s and the riding surface of the v2s was actually a little wider than the v5s. Theyre square cut but the contact patch isn't by any means that thin.

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« Reply #811 on: October 04, 2017, 08:47:16 AM »
I remember going through some thing on longboard wheels (those nerds write about everything) where it was saying that wider wheels both break into slides easier (but also don't break back out of slides as easy), and while there is equivalent friction between wide wheels and skinny wheels, that wide wheels have less pressure vs. surface area, allowing them to roll over rough ground and bumps without losing as much speed.

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« Reply #812 on: October 04, 2017, 11:39:03 AM »


Are you talking about riding surface or the width of the wheel? I recently had an unopened set of 54mm stf v5s and an unopened set of 53mm stf v2s and the riding surface of the v2s was actually a little wider than the v5s. Theyre square cut but the contact patch isn't by any means that thin.
give us the dimensions please

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« Reply #813 on: October 04, 2017, 11:54:18 AM »


Are you talking about riding surface or the width of the wheel? I recently had an unopened set of 54mm stf v5s and an unopened set of 53mm stf v2s and the riding surface of the v2s was actually a little wider than the v5s. Theyre square cut but the contact patch isn't by any means that thin.
give us the dimensions please

I gave the v2s to a friend, but if you look closely at this picture, https://bones.com/media/wysiwyg/boneswheels/why/BONES_STF_shapes_2017.jpg, you'll notice that though the v5s are wider, the actual contact patch is a little thinner than the v2s, just by a tiny bit though.

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« Reply #814 on: October 04, 2017, 11:57:24 AM »
that wide wheels have less pressure vs. surface area, allowing them to roll over rough ground and bumps without losing as much speed.
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« Reply #815 on: October 04, 2017, 12:29:53 PM »


Are you talking about riding surface or the width of the wheel? I recently had an unopened set of 54mm stf v5s and an unopened set of 53mm stf v2s and the riding surface of the v2s was actually a little wider than the v5s. Theyre square cut but the contact patch isn't by any means that thin.
give us the dimensions please

I gave the v2s to a friend, but if you look closely at this picture, https://bones.com/media/wysiwyg/boneswheels/why/BONES_STF_shapes_2017.jpg, you'll notice that though the v5s are wider, the actual contact patch is a little thinner than the v2s, just by a tiny bit though.
2mm...yeah that's a thin difference
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« Reply #816 on: October 05, 2017, 09:28:33 AM »
The v5s are wider because of the lip of the wheel, supposedly to help you roll over the coping and lock in for bowls; only difference in the cut and 'function' compared to the V2.

Riding 52mm V5s in a transition focused park atm - most people here ride SPF P5s (very close in shape as the V5s but a tad less round on the lip).

I'm trying to find the SPF P1s in 53mm but they're discontinued and tough to find to have some smaller SPFs as wearing down bigger ones takes forever.

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« Reply #817 on: October 07, 2017, 12:39:11 PM »
The v5s are wider because of the lip of the wheel, supposedly to help you roll over the coping and lock in for bowls; only difference in the cut and 'function' compared to the V2.

Riding 52mm V5s in a transition focused park atm - most people here ride SPF P5s (very close in shape as the V5s but a tad less round on the lip).

I'm trying to find the SPF P1s in 53mm but they're discontinued and tough to find to have some smaller SPFs as wearing down bigger ones takes forever.

https://www.skateamerica.com/products/bones-strokes-spf-v1-skateboard-wheels-black-53mm-set-of-4?variant=14786325574

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« Reply #818 on: October 07, 2017, 05:32:46 PM »
The v5s are wider because of the lip of the wheel, supposedly to help you roll over the coping and lock in for bowls; only difference in the cut and 'function' compared to the V2.

Riding 52mm V5s in a transition focused park atm - most people here ride SPF P5s (very close in shape as the V5s but a tad less round on the lip).

I'm trying to find the SPF P1s in 53mm but they're discontinued and tough to find to have some smaller SPFs as wearing down bigger ones takes forever.

https://www.skateamerica.com/products/bones-strokes-spf-v1-skateboard-wheels-black-53mm-set-of-4?variant=14786325574

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Gave waywards another chance using some swiss six and no spacers so they are not clamped down, feel much better and not as soft in a smooth park setting...got a few digs/small chunks missing on the riding surface from my last street session, really annoying sounding in a smooth park tho :\
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #819 on: October 11, 2017, 09:13:59 AM »
Wanted to try a wider wheel so I Got some 54,101 conical fulls. First 2 sessions had me feeling kinda "meh" about em because they felt clunky locking in to grinds compared to my 54mm Crupies but yesterday I had a pretty good session on them so the verdicts still out. I was originally gonna get some 53mm lock-ins and I still kinda feel like maybe I shoulda grabbed those instead now since but we'll see...I love my Crupies tho I'm gonna have to grab some Tiago wheels at some point for sure

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« Reply #820 on: October 11, 2017, 03:37:32 PM »
Just managed to powerslide of a quite deep crater that appeared after skating some angle iron (my local park meh). It initially evolved into a shallower crater surrounded by flatspot but eventually that went away too and im now left with a slightly smaller but greatly smoother wheel. Super stoked because last time I tried this was ages ago and was a kinda different situation, only had a small flatspot then.
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« Reply #821 on: October 11, 2017, 04:07:44 PM »
Just got the conical full formula fours. Had the mike anderson wheel before and different variations so I'm curious to see how they are.

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« Reply #822 on: October 11, 2017, 04:23:29 PM »
Just got the conical full formula fours. Had the mike anderson wheel before and different variations so I'm curious to see how they are.

How did you like the mike Anderson sfw? I've been waffling on whether to get them for like 3-4 months.
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« Reply #823 on: October 11, 2017, 04:41:00 PM »
Over the past two days of park skating I've put flat spots (and taken out a chunk) on waywards (doing reverts) and my stfs (re-learning F/S bigspins off a bank and I'd slide the full rotation). Fucking pissed. I'm sure they'd ride out if I did more 'real street' but still...

Just can't stand the bdbdbdbdbdbdbdbdbbdbdbdbdbdbdbdbdbdbdb sound on smooth crete back to OJs until I flat those on bigspins or whatever.

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« Reply #824 on: October 11, 2017, 09:49:30 PM »
Just got the conical full formula fours. Had the mike anderson wheel before and different variations so I'm curious to see how they are.

How did you like the mike Anderson sfw? I've been waffling on whether to get them for like 3-4 months.

Been a long time but they were a really good wheel but they don't last as long as formula fours.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #825 on: October 11, 2017, 10:14:33 PM »
Just got the conical full formula fours. Had the mike anderson wheel before and different variations so I'm curious to see how they are.

How did you like the mike Anderson sfw? I've been waffling on whether to get them for like 3-4 months.

Conical full are the F4 mandersons, if you like the formula go with those. Otherwise the SFWs are just boxy shaped classics

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« Reply #826 on: October 16, 2017, 03:34:57 AM »
been skating some stf v5s for over a year now, well due a new set. really enjoyed the stfs but i'm just wondering if it's worth giving spfs, formula fours, or even something from speedlab a shot.

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« Reply #827 on: October 16, 2017, 08:14:06 AM »
If you skate a lot of tranny, the grip to speed ratio of SPFs is unparalleled. Formula fours are sick on crusty spots, but I find them kind of sluggish at the park. Though they slide really well. I never tried Speedlabs, but I kinda wanna get some of their 97a for indoor park season.

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« Reply #828 on: October 16, 2017, 08:54:44 AM »
caved and got some 53mm formula fours on sale for £25 quid, worst comes to worst if i dont like them ill sell them on and try something else. all i rode for years were spitfire classics then changed to stfs and it was a whole new world

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« Reply #829 on: October 16, 2017, 09:32:38 AM »
caved and got some 53mm formula fours on sale for £25 quid, worst comes to worst if i dont like them ill sell them on and try something else. all i rode for years were spitfire classics then changed to stfs and it was a whole new world

F4s and STFs are almost equal IMO. They just have different feels. STFs are bouncy rubbery feeling, but slippery at the same time. F4s feel like rocks but grip pretty well.

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« Reply #830 on: October 17, 2017, 12:02:46 AM »
caved and got some 53mm formula fours on sale for £25 quid, worst comes to worst if i dont like them ill sell them on and try something else. all i rode for years were spitfire classics then changed to stfs and it was a whole new world

F4s and STFs are almost equal IMO. They just have different feels. STFs are bouncy rubbery feeling, but slippery at the same time. F4s feel like rocks but grip pretty well.
I feel total opposite, for me stfís grip more and f4ís are bit unpredictable on slides.
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« Reply #831 on: October 26, 2017, 01:37:54 AM »
After almost a decade on Bones STF I set up Crupie wheels couple of days ago to try them out and they are holding up great after skating them on some smooth and some really rough ground.  No chips or flatspots yet.
Performance wise in the streets they are comparable to STFs that I rode before, time will tell if they are as durable.
Great value for money as Bones STF/Spitfire F4 cost almost twice as much.

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« Reply #832 on: October 26, 2017, 06:12:41 AM »
After almost a decade on Bones STF I set up Crupie wheels couple of days ago to try them out and they are holding up great after skating them on some smooth and some really rough ground.  No chips or flatspots yet.
Performance wise in the streets they are comparable to STFs that I rode before, time will tell if they are as durable.
Great value for money as Bones STF/Spitfire F4 cost almost twice as much.

Yeah Crupies are damn good wheels, especially since their quality is on par with Bones/Spitfire at a lower cost. Loved the set I skated. I went back to some F4ís for the sake of trying a new wheel shape but Iíve got my eyes on some Tiago Crupies next. Will probably cop when he wins SotY

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« Reply #833 on: October 26, 2017, 06:13:26 PM »
After almost a decade on Bones STF I set up Crupie wheels couple of days ago to try them out and they are holding up great after skating them on some smooth and some really rough ground.  No chips or flatspots yet.
Performance wise in the streets they are comparable to STFs that I rode before, time will tell if they are as durable.
Great value for money as Bones STF/Spitfire F4 cost almost twice as much.

Yeah Crupies are damn good wheels, especially since their quality is on par with Bones/Spitfire at a lower cost. Loved the set I skated. I went back to some F4ís for the sake of trying a new wheel shape but Iíve got my eyes on some Tiago Crupies next. Will probably cop when he wins SotY

I'm going to grab a set, the thinner shape seems really nice (plus I'm flatting wheels so an extra would be handy).

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« Reply #834 on: October 26, 2017, 08:20:00 PM »
53mm crupies might be a sleeper hit.

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« Reply #835 on: October 26, 2017, 09:37:40 PM »
Ordered these 83b Clone wheels today.  If they don't come in a fucking test tube I'm sending them back.

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« Reply #836 on: October 26, 2017, 09:51:22 PM »
53mm crupies might be a sleeper hit.

I've got some sitting in a cart, once I hear back from them on my questions I'll probably bite. For now, back on F4 radial slims for a bit (kinda saving my ojs from flat spotting as i've been on a run lately and figure i'll flat the f4s first ;)

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That being said, anyone run board brand wheels with positive results?
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« Reply #837 on: October 27, 2017, 06:13:01 AM »
Pig - when they also used to make boards
Darkstar - when they also used to make wheels
Flip - when they used to make both. I liked them but was not too fond of them
Around 2009 I had a set of chocolates that had a soft core and was harder on the outside. Thought they skated pretty weird at first but when I got used to the feel I started liking them.
Anything else I can think off has been utter shite, mainly having to do with misaligned bearing sockets.
If you take a wheel with bearings and hold it between your index finger and thumb (through where the axle would pass) and spin it and then feel some movement, then the wheels are really bad and the company should be giving them away like they do with promotional lighters and keyholders because those wheels probably cost as much.
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« Reply #838 on: October 27, 2017, 07:01:19 AM »
i had a set of AW wheels in 2009 that weren't awful

they were the keith haring collab got em for like $9 and rode them a few months with no flatspots

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« Reply #839 on: October 27, 2017, 07:28:40 AM »
^oh shit i forgot a set of aw duane pitre that i had back in the day and that i liked a lot but at the time it didnt matter much because wheels were tiny and after a day or two they were destroyed to tell any difference
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