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« Reply #900 on: December 03, 2017, 02:06:12 PM »
Okay thank you people were asking
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SMLs are good (I found them grippy and slower than say, STFs or F4s), Waywards are good (they feel exactly like F4s to me, except less slippery on the 101s),
hmmm maybe I shouldn't make the switch then. I'm on a set of radial slims that I've had for a year and they are still going strong

Just started running the SML AG formula, definitely slower than any higher end spits, more controlled slide for me personally though. On my cruiser I have the V cut replacing Syvanen Oj's and they're way faster than the OJ's. Can't comment on slide yet

Yeah, you are running the regular OJ(III) urethane, slow and squishy; the SMLswould run circles around them...BUT, those regular OJs are great for regular/fucked up terrain.

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« Reply #901 on: December 03, 2017, 05:12:52 PM »
Just started running the SML AG formula, definitely slower than any higher end spits, more controlled slide for me personally though. On my cruiser I have the V cut replacing Syvanen Oj's and they're way faster than the OJ's. Can't comment on slide yet
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« Reply #902 on: December 03, 2017, 05:25:48 PM »
Gave my 101a insaneathanes a go and I'm really stoked on them, kinda slippery at the start especially coming off of skating 99a f4s but I adjusted eventually and got some fun curb tricks.

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« Reply #903 on: December 05, 2017, 09:42:17 PM »
What is the optimal wheel size/hardness for street skating crusty ass spots. I'm skating some 49mm right now but they aren't cutting it on regular asphalt or anything that isn't smooth skatepark surface. Losing too much speed despite the fact that I'm running Bones Swiss. I was thinking 52/53mm with 99A hardness would be good?

Always wondered what size wheels those GX1000 and LurkNYC dudes rode. Same thing with Palace, I know some of those London spots are crusty as fuck.

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« Reply #904 on: December 05, 2017, 09:48:30 PM »
What is the optimal wheel size/hardness for street skating crusty ass spots. I'm skating some 49mm right now but they aren't cutting it on regular asphalt or anything that isn't smooth skatepark surface. Losing too much speed despite the fact that I'm running Bones Swiss. I was thinking 52/53mm with 99A hardness would be good?

Always wondered what size wheels those GX1000 and LurkNYC dudes rode. Same thing with Palace, I know some of those London spots are crusty as fuck.
I definitely suggest sizing up, you'll have a lot more fun skating with a bigger wheel(imo). I'd suggest taking it up to a 53/54. If you're skating suuuuper crusty shit I'd suggest 101a but 99a should do just fine.



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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #905 on: December 05, 2017, 09:51:44 PM »
What is the optimal wheel size/hardness for street skating crusty ass spots. I'm skating some 49mm right now but they aren't cutting it on regular asphalt or anything that isn't smooth skatepark surface. Losing too much speed despite the fact that I'm running Bones Swiss. I was thinking 52/53mm with 99A hardness would be good?

Always wondered what size wheels those GX1000 and LurkNYC dudes rode. Same thing with Palace, I know some of those London spots are crusty as fuck.

I used to skate wheels in the 52mm range and would prefer it best when it was about 50mm due to the lower center of gravity. I definitely prefer the 54-55mm range now. So much nicer on shitty ground and you keep your speed better. As far as hardness goes, I think the hardness of 99a f4s is ideal, 101s are a bit too jarring on rough ground imo. But wheels have different formulas so hardness and how a wheel handles shit ground varies between different wheels even if they have the same durometer so keep that in mind.
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« Reply #906 on: December 05, 2017, 10:16:24 PM »
What is the optimal wheel size/hardness for street skating crusty ass spots. I'm skating some 49mm right now but they aren't cutting it on regular asphalt or anything that isn't smooth skatepark surface. Losing too much speed despite the fact that I'm running Bones Swiss. I was thinking 52/53mm with 99A hardness would be good?

Always wondered what size wheels those GX1000 and LurkNYC dudes rode. Same thing with Palace, I know some of those London spots are crusty as fuck.

It may sound off but definitely some 53/54 bones stf, the formula is great against crusty terrain and getting and holding speed, so far from my experience(2/3 years of at least 4/5 sets of formula fours in all the major shapes) formula fours are just good for sliding and thatís it, speed and rebound definitely goto bones stf.

I skate long distances and I use to think bones were plasticy and hard but skating these distances got me curious and I swapped wheels to wheels(spitfire f4, classics, gold, pig, oj classic and insane a thane, bones and mini logo) and so far bones stf took rough road and held its speed and retained it even better on smooth sidewalk.

Bones has been making wheels since the beginning and they made the perfect street wheel, itís half smooth like a cruiser wheel but still hard enough to slide like a street wheel
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« Reply #907 on: December 05, 2017, 10:36:27 PM »
What is the optimal wheel size/hardness for street skating crusty ass spots. I'm skating some 49mm right now but they aren't cutting it on regular asphalt or anything that isn't smooth skatepark surface. Losing too much speed despite the fact that I'm running Bones Swiss. I was thinking 52/53mm with 99A hardness would be good?

Always wondered what size wheels those GX1000 and LurkNYC dudes rode. Same thing with Palace, I know some of those London spots are crusty as fuck.

It may sound off but definitely some 53/54 bones stf, the formula is great against crusty terrain and getting and holding speed, so far from my experience(2/3 years of at least 4/5 sets of formula fours in all the major shapes) formula fours are just good for sliding and thatís it, speed and rebound definitely goto bones stf.

I skate long distances and I use to think bones were plasticy and hard but skating these distances got me curious and I swapped wheels to wheels(spitfire f4, classics, gold, pig, oj classic and insane a thane, bones and mini logo) and so far bones stf took rough road and held its speed and retained it even better on smooth sidewalk.

Bones has been making wheels since the beginning and they made the perfect street wheel, itís half smooth like a cruiser wheel but still hard enough to slide like a street wheel

I agree with the sentiment that bones stfs are more forgiving on rough terrain, they almost feel soft(perhaps absorbent is a better word to describe it... idk), though they're obviously not as they're 83b. I also actually prefer the slide of stfs over 99 f4s too, the screech is less high pitched and feels more controllable to me. Just not a fan of how plasticky they feel, despite their performance.
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #908 on: December 05, 2017, 11:06:52 PM »
Want to try something other than f4s and stf variants. Had ricta nrgs once and while they were fast wasn't a fan of how they slid, similar story with autobahns.

Thinking about getting either oj insaneathanes, smls, waywards(99 or 101 not sure yet), or crupies. Anyone have any input on those options or have any other suggestions? Ideally something that stays white, holds speed well and slides on ledges good but is also forgiving on shit ground.
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« Reply #909 on: December 05, 2017, 11:12:30 PM »
Been skating Prize Fighter Cutlery 54mm on the rough ground of the Pacific Northwest. They are 101s but don't rattle your bones like some others do. They slide great and grip when you need them to. I put them up there with F4s but I'm a little biased.

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« Reply #910 on: December 06, 2017, 01:28:47 AM »
Want to try something other than f4s and stf variants. Had ricta nrgs once and while they were fast wasn't a fan of how they slid, similar story with autobahns.

Thinking about getting either oj insaneathanes, smls, waywards(99 or 101 not sure yet), or crupies. Anyone have any input on those options or have any other suggestions? Ideally something that stays white, holds speed well and slides on ledges good but is also forgiving on shit ground.

I skated only Bones STF for long time. Recently tried Crupies and I was so impressed with them that I bought couple more sets during Black Friday sales.
Great wheels at great price. They are almost two times cheaper and they are on par with STF (haven't tried F4 yet). Slide well, fast and durable.

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« Reply #911 on: December 06, 2017, 04:24:12 PM »
I would recommend Wayward 101s to anyone looking to try  something new. Iím on my third set in a row and I really like them. They seem hard and plasticky for the first couple sessions but once they are broken in they grip really well and keep their slide. Iíve been skating the round slims on street and at skateparks and the only time Iíve slipped out was on the first day of one set.
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« Reply #912 on: December 06, 2017, 05:25:23 PM »
Thanks for the feedback guys, how would you guys say the wayward 101s and crupies compare to 99 or 101 f4s and stfs in terms of slide and grip?

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« Reply #913 on: December 06, 2017, 05:47:37 PM »
Thanks for the feedback guys, how would you guys say the wayward 101s and crupies compare to 99 or 101 f4s and stfs in terms of slide and grip?

Compared to F4ís Iíd say that Crupies feel somewhere between their 99-101duros. Theyíre listed as 101ís but theyíre not as slippery on smooth surfaces as F4 101ís, or as grippy/forgiving as the 99ís. Itís a really good balance tho. Grinds, powerslides, and tricks that revert across the ground feel great and have a nice squeal to them. Their team is sick too I think they just put Yuri Facchini too. Excellent street wheels and theyíre usually a couple dollars cheaper than the competitors as well

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« Reply #914 on: December 06, 2017, 05:55:35 PM »
How do crupies feel in park? Both F4s and waywards feel slow to me (compared to say, OJ insanes, Spfs and RICTA. I'd love to support another small company.

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« Reply #915 on: December 06, 2017, 08:31:13 PM »
Thanks guys, just pulled the trigger on some 53mm team logo crupies(the 5 pack), wish my local shop had a bigger range so I could check them out in person and cop. They seem like a slim-ish classic shape. Should be interesting transitioning from my 55mm 99a lock ins which are a little wide for my liking.

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« Reply #916 on: December 07, 2017, 04:26:10 PM »
Just got in some PFC 53's, can't wait to see how they operate

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« Reply #917 on: December 08, 2017, 08:16:54 PM »
Always wanted to try PFC. got really worried when they didn't have a drop for a year or so. Down to support Ray though especially after his 500 F episode. Let me know what you think please..
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« Reply #918 on: December 08, 2017, 09:22:22 PM »
Has anybody tried the 81b SPFs and if so how do they fare?

My go to wheel for smooth concrete bowls are the 84b SPFs 60mm but whenever I go to a really weathered or spraypainted bowl it feels like I'm skating on ice and it's super slippery so I usually end up switching to 99a conical full formula fours in those instances. The 81B SPFs sound like they would work pretty good for rough bowls but has anybody here had any experience with them?

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« Reply #919 on: December 08, 2017, 11:46:34 PM »
How are crupie compared to bones stf?

I feel like they would be like an stf just less plastic feeling and more urethane wheel feeling like a spit classic but obviously better
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« Reply #920 on: December 09, 2017, 01:15:58 AM »
How are crupie compared to bones stf?

I feel like they would be like an stf just less plastic feeling and more urethane wheel feeling like a spit classic but obviously better

Spot on.
I was bones stf guy for longest time but crupies are really on par with them costing way less.
Spots I skate are mostly smooth euro plaza stuff or some rough asphalt spots and crupies are great in both cases. Slide well and are durable.
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« Reply #921 on: December 10, 2017, 09:39:55 AM »
Has anybody tried the 81b SPFs and if so how do they fare?

My go to wheel for smooth concrete bowls are the 84b SPFs 60mm but whenever I go to a really weathered or spraypainted bowl it feels like I'm skating on ice and it's super slippery so I usually end up switching to 99a conical full formula fours in those instances. The 81B SPFs sound like they would work pretty good for rough bowls but has anybody here had any experience with them?

Yah....I think these would be sick....I have a set and I use them for skating just around my house/rougher street....

They feel a bit sticky and dampening....they take the edge off a bit of rougher spots...

I was a big fan of the ditchtech and emailed Powell about it....I think they may look at pushing the hardness up on the rough riders to something which is more conventional....

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« Reply #922 on: December 10, 2017, 02:50:12 PM »
Has anybody tried the 81b SPFs and if so how do they fare?

My go to wheel for smooth concrete bowls are the 84b SPFs 60mm but whenever I go to a really weathered or spraypainted bowl it feels like I'm skating on ice and it's super slippery so I usually end up switching to 99a conical full formula fours in those instances. The 81B SPFs sound like they would work pretty good for rough bowls but has anybody here had any experience with them?

Yah....I think these would be sick....I have a set and I use them for skating just around my house/rougher street....

They feel a bit sticky and dampening....they take the edge off a bit of rougher spots...

I was a big fan of the ditchtech and emailed Powell about it....I think they may look at pushing the hardness up on the rough riders to something which is more conventional....

I had 2 sets of Ditch Techs and the 2nd ones just felt way too soft. They may have been slightly wider as well but either way they felt dull and bouncy. Were they 81b?

Didn't know they had a new durometer of SPFs. I don't like the normal ones on my crusty, painted park surface - it feels like they are going to slip out at any moment.

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« Reply #923 on: December 10, 2017, 06:30:17 PM »
Ditch tech was way softer I'm pretty sure....they were like a 90 something A where the 81's are a 101.

I always found SPF's to be sticky....I skate the regular ones on a slippery ramp and they are great.


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« Reply #924 on: December 12, 2017, 08:32:31 PM »
Ditch tech was way softer I'm pretty sure....they were like a 90 something A where the 81's are a 101.

I always found SPF's to be sticky....I skate the regular ones on a slippery ramp and they are great.
I have had multiple sets of STGs and they are icy. However my friend has SPFs and I agree that thy are pretty damn sticky which is weird because they are even harder than STFs. 

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« Reply #925 on: December 12, 2017, 08:57:25 PM »
Yah...that's the phenomenon part.....the stickiness makes them feel softer too which is nuts....

I think another option if everything I've said makes no sense is drop to a 97A in like NHS product or a 99 formula 1....

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« Reply #926 on: December 13, 2017, 03:58:23 AM »
Are Conical F4 similar to Bones STF V5 in term of size ?
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« Reply #927 on: December 13, 2017, 06:23:49 AM »
Are Conical F4 similar to Bones STF V5 in term of size ?

Conicals are a bit wider at the same height.

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« Reply #928 on: December 13, 2017, 01:56:00 PM »
Gave my 101a insaneathanes a go and I'm really stoked on them, kinda slippery at the start especially coming off of skating 99a f4s but I adjusted eventually and got some fun curb tricks.
I got the classic shaped ones and honestly, they'll be like that for a bit then suck at sliding
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« Reply #929 on: December 13, 2017, 02:19:36 PM »
Gave my 101a insaneathanes a go and I'm really stoked on them, kinda slippery at the start especially coming off of skating 99a f4s but I adjusted eventually and got some fun curb tricks.
I got the classic shaped ones and honestly, they'll be like that for a bit then suck at sliding
Damn well I'll enjoy them for now I guess, but no complaints for a wheel I picked up for $20