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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #930 on: December 14, 2017, 09:27:41 PM »
I bought Crupies. 53 Sarmientos, they were like $22. Am I going to slip out and die tomorrow?

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« Reply #931 on: December 15, 2017, 03:45:49 PM »
Skated my crupies a few times, not too impressed right now to be honest. Maybe it will be better when the tread goes away though. Slide feels nice on the right asphalt, but some concrete sidewalks it almost doesnt slide at all. Definitely a bit unpredictable. Breaking into the slide is also a bit inconsistent. I got the apex logo 5 pack, 53mm and they are ridiculously slim. The riding surface is exactly half the riding surface on my 55mm lock ins which I was skating prior to this, also significantly slimmer than 54mm f4 classics. As a result, you can definitely feel it struggling on shitty ground, loses speed easily. Feels amazing on smooth park ground though. Really hoping the slide becomes better once the tread wears away.

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« Reply #932 on: December 15, 2017, 05:08:28 PM »
Yeah I know what you mean about the tread, they definitely slide better once itís worn down. I grabbed the Ribeiro & Tiago wheels not only cuz theyíre some of favorite pros but because their particular models also have a wider riding surface than the ďteamĒ wheels by a couple millimeters or so. They have measurements listed on their site when you go to shop so Iíd use that as a guide before buying some

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« Reply #933 on: December 15, 2017, 10:02:22 PM »
all ive skated are f4's since 2013.. i can't imagine ever wanting to try anything else  :-X
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« Reply #934 on: December 16, 2017, 01:55:17 AM »
all ive skated are f4's since 2013.. i can't imagine ever wanting to try anything else  :-X

Thatís what I thought too when I first got a set from jim himself but sadly 5 sets later I realized how slow and jittery f4ís are compared to bones stf, the stf are faster, retain speed better, and rebound better and definitely way smoother

So glad to hear more about crupie cause I was in such a rut thinking about them and if I should try them and now I know Iím just gonna stick to my bones until they possibly restock on wreck at some point
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« Reply #935 on: December 18, 2017, 10:41:08 AM »
all ive skated are f4's since 2013.. i can't imagine ever wanting to try anything else  :-X

Thatís what I thought too when I first got a set from jim himself but sadly 5 sets later I realized how slow and jittery f4ís are compared to bones stf, the stf are faster, retain speed better, and rebound better and definitely way smoother

So glad to hear more about crupie cause I was in such a rut thinking about them and if I should try them and now I know Iím just gonna stick to my bones until they possibly restock on wreck at some point

I feel like this is troll bait :)

Wrecks just take too much effort to slide, otherwise decent (I was a fan).

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« Reply #936 on: December 18, 2017, 03:21:28 PM »
Hey Slap!

Thinking about ordering some new wheels for Christmas. Basically I have the option of some spitfire f4 classic shapes (99s or 101) for 45$ CAD Some OJ ez edge insaneathane team rider 101a 54mm for 31$ CAD Or some Bones STF for 31-35$ CAD.

The fact that I've already tried stf's and f4's has me leaning towards the OJ's to try something new. I really like F4's, and find their slide and feel to be really nice. I could also satisfy my want to try something new by trying a different duro of spits (my first set was 99a, could switch it up to 101's) or a different shape of STF's (first set was the V1, have the option to buy some v2's) although I'm sure the difference isn't very big.

I was hoping some of you could help me make a decision, as I'm not sure what to go for. The OJ's and Bones are cheaper, so if I liked them I'd be saving some coin. I am really used to the f4's though, and I don't know if I should stray away from the tried and true. Anybody with experience on OJ's insaneathane able to weigh in on this situation? any help is appreciated, thanks in advance.
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« Reply #937 on: December 18, 2017, 06:04:33 PM »
Hey Slap!

Thinking about ordering some new wheels for Christmas. Basically I have the option of some spitfire f4 classic shapes (99s or 101) for 45$ CAD Some OJ ez edge insaneathane team rider 101a 54mm for 31$ CAD Or some Bones STF for 31-35$ CAD.

The fact that I've already tried stf's and f4's has me leaning towards the OJ's to try something new. I really like F4's, and find their slide and feel to be really nice. I could also satisfy my want to try something new by trying a different duro of spits (my first set was 99a, could switch it up to 101's) or a different shape of STF's (first set was the V1, have the option to buy some v2's) although I'm sure the difference isn't very big.

I was hoping some of you could help me make a decision, as I'm not sure what to go for. The OJ's and Bones are cheaper, so if I liked them I'd be saving some coin. I am really used to the f4's though, and I don't know if I should stray away from the tried and true. Anybody with experience on OJ's insaneathane able to weigh in on this situation? any help is appreciated, thanks in advance.

If you have absolutely no complaints with F4's you probably won't find a better wheel. I've had all 3. Bones are too slide-y for me and insaneathanes were chalky and didn't slide enough. F4's are perfect for me. I ride 99a 54mm and try to skate as much street as I can.

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« Reply #938 on: December 18, 2017, 06:26:15 PM »
Donít get oj, they feel good and smooth like a bones stf but they are slow as balls! Literally so slow itís sad such a cool wheel brand has such trash wheels.

Seriously if your going for a trick up a bank your not gonna make it unless you push hard

Nah no troll bait, I wanna try wreck with all their comparisons and claims being the worlds best urethane and backed by years of experience with darkstars famous urethane formulas, they look like a more slidy stf but hopefully weíll see
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« Reply #939 on: December 18, 2017, 07:49:23 PM »
Donít get oj, they feel good and smooth like a bones stf but they are slow as balls! Literally so slow itís sad such a cool wheel brand has such trash wheels.

Seriously if your going for a trick up a bank your not gonna make it unless you push hard

Nah no troll bait, I wanna try wreck with all their comparisons and claims being the worlds best urethane and backed by years of experience with darkstars famous urethane formulas, they look like a more slidy stf but hopefully weíll see

OJ Insane a thane is awesome, way better than regular OJ thane.

Wrecks are NOT a more slidy STF, quite the opposite.

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« Reply #940 on: December 18, 2017, 08:27:58 PM »
Donít get oj, they feel good and smooth like a bones stf but they are slow as balls! Literally so slow itís sad such a cool wheel brand has such trash wheels.

Seriously if your going for a trick up a bank your not gonna make it unless you push hard

Nah no troll bait, I wanna try wreck with all their comparisons and claims being the worlds best urethane and backed by years of experience with darkstars famous urethane formulas, they look like a more slidy stf but hopefully weíll see

OJ Insane a thane is awesome, way better than regular OJ thane.

Wrecks are NOT a more slidy STF, quite the opposite.

Haha this is why I had to ask! I noticed a lot of differing opinions around the net, and don't really know enough people with experience on OJ's to ask anyone personally. For every two or three people that say oj's wheels suck I see someone saying that the insaneathane's are pretty good. Any word on how you'd compare them to F4's? I really want to give them a shot, I know they back some rad skaters and have a pretty big history in the industry. Just not sure if that's worth ditching what I know I like. The madness is real..
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« Reply #941 on: December 18, 2017, 09:49:45 PM »
Sorry xen but ima have to disagree with the oj still, I have the insane a thane 99 and I liked them until I noticed how slow they are

Stay safe and get f4 or stf, my preference is stf because theyíre just overall good on speed, rebound, and slide.

F4 are like I said really slidy but speed and rebound I did not like

I skate street 99% of the time btw, not really or ever been a park monger
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« Reply #942 on: December 18, 2017, 10:16:53 PM »
Sorry xen but ima have to disagree with the oj still, I have the insane a thane 99 and I liked them until I noticed how slow they are

Stay safe and get f4 or stf, my preference is stf because theyíre just overall good on speed, rebound, and slide.

F4 are like I said really slidy but speed and rebound I did not like

I skate street 99% of the time btw, not really or ever been a park monger

I too, have ridden them all.

Enjoy those wrecks, maybe you can set them up on your Industrials?  :o






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« Reply #943 on: December 18, 2017, 11:01:11 PM »
Been riding Ricta 51 Speed Rings for a while now.

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« Reply #944 on: December 18, 2017, 11:08:07 PM »
Sorry xen but ima have to disagree with the oj still, I have the insane a thane 99 and I liked them until I noticed how slow they are

Stay safe and get f4 or stf, my preference is stf because theyíre just overall good on speed, rebound, and slide.

F4 are like I said really slidy but speed and rebound I did not like

I skate street 99% of the time btw, not really or ever been a park monger

I too, have ridden them all.

Enjoy those wrecks, maybe you can set them up on your Industrials?  :o

Haha I was thinking to try some since theyíre so cheap too but they just look like a Indy stage 10 knock off so meh maybe one day
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« Reply #945 on: December 19, 2017, 07:25:26 AM »
Been riding Ricta 51 Speed Rings for a while now.

What do you think? I had a pair, then bought some bones spf, and liked the speed rings better, then bought another pair, then bought f4's.

I liked the speed rings better both times but gave them away. I can't find them anymore so now I bought some ricta 101a naturals

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« Reply #946 on: December 19, 2017, 02:31:37 PM »
Been riding Ricta 51 Speed Rings for a while now.

What do you think? I had a pair, then bought some bones spf, and liked the speed rings better, then bought another pair, then bought f4's.

I liked the speed rings better both times but gave them away. I can't find them anymore so now I bought some ricta 101a naturals

I loved me some speed rings, had better thane than the chrome cores, but they flatted easy in parks. Been wanting to snag some naturals but they are much too wide for my liking.

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« Reply #947 on: December 22, 2017, 04:08:21 PM »
Can wheels spoil? Eyeing off some autobahns atm that I am certain have been sitting in a cabinet for at least 5 years

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« Reply #948 on: December 22, 2017, 04:48:01 PM »
shit i hope not because i have 3 sets of 15 year old autobahns still in shrink wrap sitting in my basement.

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« Reply #949 on: December 22, 2017, 07:42:49 PM »
How long is urethane supposed to stay stable and fresh?

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« Reply #950 on: December 22, 2017, 08:14:25 PM »
I thought you were suppose to keep them in the freezer so they wonít spoil

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« Reply #951 on: December 22, 2017, 09:09:36 PM »
Spitfires turn into rocks when they get old. What happens to bones when they're past the expiration date?

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« Reply #952 on: December 23, 2017, 05:44:49 AM »
I can only speak for Spits but if you go from a newer set of wheels to a set that's been sititing a while.. You'll think you put clay on there instead of wheels, so goddamn slow.

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« Reply #953 on: December 23, 2017, 06:10:08 AM »
updated review on my g slides.  -they are cool.  They aren't too boingee but there's no way to really slide them.  I think longboarders can slide them but I can't.
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« Reply #954 on: December 23, 2017, 08:25:43 AM »
updated review on my g slides.  -they are cool.  They aren't too boingee but there's no way to really slide them.  I think longboarders can slide them but I can't.

Longboarders could slide a 50a wheel..

Skateboarders complain that 101a's are too sticky.

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« Reply #955 on: December 23, 2017, 12:02:13 PM »
Donít get oj, they feel good and smooth like a bones stf but they are slow as balls! Literally so slow itís sad such a cool wheel brand has such trash wheels.

Seriously if your going for a trick up a bank your not gonna make it unless you push hard

Nah no troll bait, I wanna try wreck with all their comparisons and claims being the worlds best urethane and backed by years of experience with darkstars famous urethane formulas, they look like a more slidy stf but hopefully weíll see

Regular OJ's are the standard Creative Urethanes compound that is used for a lot of brands. It's garbage. Slow, flatspots very easily, and yellows fast. When I worked in distribution it seemed like any random company who wanted some wheels got them made there, and they always sucked. Momentum used them for years, maybe they still do.

Spitfire F4s are ok, but I can't get down with brand new wheels looking like they're 3 years old and yellowed to shit... and they aren't quite on the quality level of Bones. I rode a few pairs, still flat spotted them, and was happy to get back on STFs.

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« Reply #956 on: December 23, 2017, 12:12:57 PM »
Donít get oj, they feel good and smooth like a bones stf but they are slow as balls! Literally so slow itís sad such a cool wheel brand has such trash wheels.

Seriously if your going for a trick up a bank your not gonna make it unless you push hard

Nah no troll bait, I wanna try wreck with all their comparisons and claims being the worlds best urethane and backed by years of experience with darkstars famous urethane formulas, they look like a more slidy stf but hopefully weíll see

Regular OJ's are the standard Creative Urethanes compound that is used for a lot of brands. It's garbage. Slow, flatspots very easily, and yellows fast. When I worked in distribution it seemed like any random company who wanted some wheels got them made there, and they always sucked. Momentum used them for years, maybe they still do.

Spitfire F4s are ok, but I can't get down with brand new wheels looking like they're 3 years old and yellowed to shit... and they aren't quite on the quality level of Bones. I rode a few pairs, still flat spotted them, and was happy to get back on STFs.

This fits with a lot of peoples thinking. Bones doesn't need to put so much effort into advertising.. They've been working on their urethane for years, spits just barely figured out how to mix things right.

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« Reply #957 on: December 23, 2017, 12:41:41 PM »
Donít get oj, they feel good and smooth like a bones stf but they are slow as balls! Literally so slow itís sad such a cool wheel brand has such trash wheels.

Seriously if your going for a trick up a bank your not gonna make it unless you push hard

Nah no troll bait, I wanna try wreck with all their comparisons and claims being the worlds best urethane and backed by years of experience with darkstars famous urethane formulas, they look like a more slidy stf but hopefully weíll see

Regular OJ's are the standard Creative Urethanes compound that is used for a lot of brands. It's garbage. Slow, flatspots very easily, and yellows fast. When I worked in distribution it seemed like any random company who wanted some wheels got them made there, and they always sucked. Momentum used them for years, maybe they still do.

Spitfire F4s are ok, but I can't get down with brand new wheels looking like they're 3 years old and yellowed to shit... and they aren't quite on the quality level of Bones. I rode a few pairs, still flat spotted them, and was happy to get back on STFs.

This fits with a lot of peoples thinking. Bones doesn't need to put so much effort into advertising.. They've been working on their urethane for years, spits just barely figured out how to mix things right.

Thatís what Iím sayin  ;D

And thatís why I wanna try wreck, chet Thomas who made them was doing darkstar wheels before and has 30 years of wheel making experience claims ďthe worlds best urethaneĒ on these so letís see if this is true but xen disagrees and he has tried them so idk

I really just love the way bones stf grips and rolls/feels like a soft wheel but still slide easier than the standard 99a even 101a wheels AND how they rebound, they donít bounce and jitter like crazy on bad ground theyíre like cruiser wheels almost and just roll through it as smooth as a street wheel could possibly

That was one of my biggest turn offs to f4 was the lack of speed/free roll(distance after pushing really) and resistance to harsh ground, slides better and feels like a real urethane wheel but not as fast and smooth as bones stf

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« Reply #958 on: December 23, 2017, 02:06:49 PM »
I look at it like this - Spitfire is a 'cooler' brand with better art direction, marketing and team etc. Bones is Powell, so less cool points, but way more experience developing wheel compounds and pretty much all emphasis put on quality and innovation. The wheels are better, period. Spitfire could only get close by selling wheels that come already brown, and they don't have nearly the longevity that a pair of Bones does. I'm always amazed at how long I end up riding a set.


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« Reply #959 on: December 23, 2017, 04:21:03 PM »
updated review on my g slides.  -they are cool.  They aren't too boingee but there's no way to really slide them.  I think longboarders can slide them but I can't.

Longboarders could slide a 50a wheel..

Skateboarders complain that 101a's are too sticky.
  I'm starting to think hard skinny 62mms would be better for shitty ground than softer 56mms cause I could still slide.
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