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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #990 on: January 12, 2018, 08:20:07 PM »
^Interesting input. I quite like my Wayward 101s so far, nothing about them makes me go holy shit but theyre an all round solid wheel, but then again no wheel really does. The clones sound interesting to try, but it makes no sense to me why they rate some wheels with the B scale and other with the A scale, are they different formulae or just different hardness? Seems stupid to use two different scales.

Supposedly formula, cause in the end the hardness rating is almost like Abec rating and it’s really just about the formula and quality of urethane/materials

Like these clones are just like an stf at 83b but you know, different formulas and all and same with f4 compared to other wheels

So yeah the scale is just for different formulas I guess

I see, it would make sense for them to elaborate on the differences between their different products though. Oh well. Definitely interested to try them in the future though.

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« Reply #991 on: January 12, 2018, 08:23:42 PM »
^Interesting input. I quite like my Wayward 101s so far, nothing about them makes me go holy shit but theyre an all round solid wheel, but then again no wheel really does. The clones sound interesting to try, but it makes no sense to me why they rate some wheels with the B scale and other with the A scale, are they different formulae or just different hardness? Seems stupid to use two different scales.

Supposedly formula, cause in the end the hardness rating is almost like Abec rating and it’s really just about the formula and quality of urethane/materials

Like these clones are just like an stf at 83b but you know, different formulas and all and same with f4 compared to other wheels

So yeah the scale is just for different formulas I guess

I see, it would make sense for them to elaborate on the differences between their different products though. Oh well. Definitely interested to try them in the future though.

I highly recommend if your looking for a good wheel besides my all timer bones stf, they kinda remind me of the first time trying f4 and feeling a revolutionary skate wheel formula, like you can’t describe all the feelings but it’s good all around

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #992 on: January 17, 2018, 11:26:44 AM »
Hey guys, I'm looking at getting some new wheels since they're on sale.

My two options are Ricta Sparx 101a 52mm and OJ wheels from concentrate 101a 52mm.
The OJs have a 16.6mm contact patch, while the Rictas a 18.5mm contact patch.
Which one should I get? I only skate street (no skatepark in my town), some spots are slippery (underground concrete parking lots) while others are a bit rougher (asphalt/stone tiles).

Any feedback is nice

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« Reply #993 on: January 17, 2018, 11:41:37 AM »
Hey guys, I'm looking at getting some new wheels since they're on sale.

My two options are Ricta Sparx 101a 52mm and OJ wheels from concentrate 101a 52mm.
The OJs have a 16.6mm contact patch, while the Rictas a 18.5mm contact patch.
Which one should I get? I only skate street (no skatepark in my town), some spots are slippery (underground concrete parking lots) while others are a bit rougher (asphalt/stone tiles).

Any feedback is nice
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« Reply #994 on: January 17, 2018, 01:08:27 PM »
Hey guys, I'm looking at getting some new wheels since they're on sale.

My two options are Ricta Sparx 101a 52mm and OJ wheels from concentrate 101a 52mm.
The OJs have a 16.6mm contact patch, while the Rictas a 18.5mm contact patch.
Which one should I get? I only skate street (no skatepark in my town), some spots are slippery (underground concrete parking lots) while others are a bit rougher (asphalt/stone tiles).

Any feedback is nice

Between those two options, the OJs.

Good sale here on wheels: https://shop.ccs.com/skateboards/skateboard-wheels?order=pricelow

I'd snag some waywards if I were you, closet you will get to F4s (if you are skating some slippery stuff).
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #995 on: January 17, 2018, 04:47:26 PM »
Hey guys, I'm looking at getting some new wheels since they're on sale.

My two options are Ricta Sparx 101a 52mm and OJ wheels from concentrate 101a 52mm.
The OJs have a 16.6mm contact patch, while the Rictas a 18.5mm contact patch.
Which one should I get? I only skate street (no skatepark in my town), some spots are slippery (underground concrete parking lots) while others are a bit rougher (asphalt/stone tiles).

Any feedback is nice
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« Reply #996 on: January 19, 2018, 12:17:23 PM »
Anything but ricta!

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« Reply #997 on: January 19, 2018, 02:39:56 PM »
Anything but ricta!

I agree

Update on the wayward 99a tre najera

They’re smooth as fresh shaved ball sack

They slide like a spitfire classic so you need some power or speed

But best part, they are pretty fast combined with smooth they’re great, just wish they slid easier

The 101 were not that great though, maybe I just have an old formula
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« Reply #998 on: January 19, 2018, 05:25:27 PM »
Anything but ricta!

I agree

Update on the wayward 99a tre najera

They’re smooth as fresh shaved ball sack

They slide like a spitfire classic so you need some power or speed

But best part, they are pretty fast combined with smooth they’re great, just wish they slid easier

The 101 were not that great though, maybe I just have an old formula

So bones stf still beats wayward eh? I keep getting tempted to try crupies, and others, but bones and spits just have formulas on lock.

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« Reply #999 on: January 19, 2018, 05:38:28 PM »
Anything but ricta!

I agree

Update on the wayward 99a tre najera

They’re smooth as fresh shaved ball sack

They slide like a spitfire classic so you need some power or speed

But best part, they are pretty fast combined with smooth they’re great, just wish they slid easier

The 101 were not that great though, maybe I just have an old formula

So bones stf still beats wayward eh? I keep getting tempted to try crupies, and others, but bones and spits just have formulas on lock.

Still, id say bones stf, then alien workshop clones 83b(they feel like you take a spit classic and mix with an stf) then formula fours, then wayward/mini logo/bones 100, and maybe oj insane a thane but they were slow as snails so probably spit classics

That’s my experience so far

And yeah never ricta, the most Chinese manufacturing quality wheels ever, hard plastic and jittery
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« Reply #1000 on: January 19, 2018, 06:03:31 PM »
Anything but ricta!

I agree

Update on the wayward 99a tre najera

They’re smooth as fresh shaved ball sack

They slide like a spitfire classic so you need some power or speed

But best part, they are pretty fast combined with smooth they’re great, just wish they slid easier

The 101 were not that great though, maybe I just have an old formula

So bones stf still beats wayward eh? I keep getting tempted to try crupies, and others, but bones and spits just have formulas on lock.

Still, id say bones stf, then alien workshop clones 83b(they feel like you take a spit classic and mix with an stf) then formula fours, then wayward/mini logo/bones 100, and maybe oj insane a thane but they were slow as snails so probably spit classics

That’s my experience so far

And yeah never ricta, the most Chinese manufacturing quality wheels ever, hard plastic and jittery

I actually like how different stf and F4s are, I ride both these days. I'm not even sure a wheel could combine the best of both, it's two totally different feels.

If you know what I mean.

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« Reply #1001 on: January 22, 2018, 08:37:54 AM »
I need some quick advice: the city I live has some brutally rough streets so I'm looking for softer wheels. Is there really that much of a difference between 99a and 101? Those seem like the most common measurements. I was gonna drop down to 90a, Also, I was gonna switch from the standard wheel to wider ones, does that effect your tricks or is it all mental?

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« Reply #1002 on: January 22, 2018, 08:53:39 AM »
So bones stf still beats wayward eh? I keep getting tempted to try crupies, and others, but bones and spits just have formulas on lock.

Currently rocking Crupies on my main set up and 99 F4's on my back-up. I'm liking the Crupies more than the F4's right now. They feel gripper and seem to retain speed better than the F4's, but also still slide a little better. I'm going to give my back up a lot of use this week and see if I still feel the same.

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« Reply #1003 on: January 22, 2018, 08:55:26 AM »
I need some quick advice: the city I live has some brutally rough streets so I'm looking for softer wheels. Is there really that much of a difference between 99a and 101? Those seem like the most common measurements. I was gonna drop down to 90a, Also, I was gonna switch from the standard wheel to wider ones, does that effect your tricks or is it all mental?

No. On rough streets both are really fucking rough. If you want a smoother ride, get 92A or softer. Softer wheels will be grippy though. 92A you can still slide, but for examples Keyframes, which are 87A are really difficult to slide. Otherwise they're perfect for rough streets though.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #1004 on: January 22, 2018, 09:09:58 AM »
I need some quick advice: the city I live has some brutally rough streets so I'm looking for softer wheels. Is there really that much of a difference between 99a and 101? Those seem like the most common measurements. I was gonna drop down to 90a, Also, I was gonna switch from the standard wheel to wider ones, does that effect your tricks or is it all mental?

Depends what tricks you are talking about. I personally wouldn't want to do crooked grinds on anything much less than 99a. I don't think there's a magic bullet wheel for cruising crusty streets and skating spots so I would suggest just getting straight up cruiser wheels like bones rough riders and switching them out with something 99+ when you want to do tricks where your wheels rub.

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« Reply #1005 on: January 22, 2018, 09:57:52 AM »
I need some quick advice: the city I live has some brutally rough streets so I'm looking for softer wheels. Is there really that much of a difference between 99a and 101? Those seem like the most common measurements. I was gonna drop down to 90a, Also, I was gonna switch from the standard wheel to wider ones, does that effect your tricks or is it all mental?

Depends what tricks you are talking about. I personally wouldn't want to do crooked grinds on anything much less than 99a. I don't think there's a magic bullet wheel for cruising crusty streets and skating spots so I would suggest just getting straight up cruiser wheels like bones rough riders and switching them out with something 99+ when you want to do tricks where your wheels rub.

This. The in-between duros (90-92a) suck, softies or street wheels, gotta make a choice. I skate a lot of janky spots, you get used to it.

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« Reply #1006 on: January 24, 2018, 02:29:24 PM »
I like the Powell G-slides - they power slide a little bit, but still handle gravel on my street smoothly. I use em for my tricky cruiser/curb crusher. For just speed, I still use my Danny Falla red/Stella PFCs
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« Reply #1007 on: January 31, 2018, 05:55:54 AM »
Anyone know of a wheel slimmer or as slim as the Bones V3? The 50mm ones I skate are 28mm in width. I have had Autobahn slims which were 27mm width. I find the Bones lose their shape and generally wear down too fast for my liking but im currently out of options since it seems like Autobahn must be done.

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« Reply #1008 on: January 31, 2018, 05:59:06 AM »
Anything but ricta!


when was the last time you had ricta?
ricta naturals > F4's any day.

just to elaborate. I have 99a 54 F4 slims. I blame my self for buying a wheel online, but they are not really slim, while they may have a narrower riding surface. the overall wheel was wider than my autobahns and rictas. They felt a little mushy to me, and did not slide as well as my rictas. The wheel is slower. My F4's running 6ball swiss, feel slower than my ricta's w/ mini logo bearings. So on christmas I got westgate naturals. They dont have that plastic feel that the cored ricta's are known for.
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #1009 on: January 31, 2018, 06:49:30 AM »
Anyone know of a wheel slimmer or as slim as the Bones V3? The 50mm ones I skate are 28mm in width. I have had Autobahn slims which were 27mm width. I find the Bones lose their shape and generally wear down too fast for my liking but im currently out of options since it seems like Autobahn must be done.

Ricta NRG Nyjah's are 52mm and 27.7 wide.  The NRG formula is awesome too

https://www.nhsfunfactory.com/nyjah-huston-52mm-pro-design-99a-ricta-skateboard-wheels

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« Reply #1010 on: January 31, 2018, 07:23:49 AM »
Anyone know of a wheel slimmer or as slim as the Bones V3? The 50mm ones I skate are 28mm in width. I have had Autobahn slims which were 27mm width. I find the Bones lose their shape and generally wear down too fast for my liking but im currently out of options since it seems like Autobahn must be done.

Ricta NRG Nyjah's are 52mm and 27.7 wide.  The NRG formula is awesome too

https://www.nhsfunfactory.com/nyjah-huston-52mm-pro-design-99a-ricta-skateboard-wheels

I’ll check out the rictas. Thanks!

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #1011 on: January 31, 2018, 07:42:49 AM »
I was a ricta naturals guy for my first 10 years - they are not faster than f4s of any durometer/size.

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« Reply #1012 on: February 02, 2018, 10:53:09 AM »
I was a ricta naturals guy for my first 10 years - they are not faster than f4s of any durometer/size.

edit: I'll fuckin race you!

When was the last time you rode set? Everyone uses different [marketing] formulas these days...the Ricta NRG, at 99a feel faster than F4s to me; I've ridden spits since they launched the OG classic but the F4s feel soft and sluggish to me compared to OJ insanes and Ricta NRGs.

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« Reply #1013 on: February 02, 2018, 12:12:06 PM »
Are there any wheels out there that are like the bones rough riders but not bouncy? i like to do tricks on my cruiser but the bones wheels i have are bouncy and it makes my tricks feel weird

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« Reply #1014 on: February 02, 2018, 04:58:40 PM »
Anyone know of a wheel slimmer or as slim as the Bones V3? The 50mm ones I skate are 28mm in width. I have had Autobahn slims which were 27mm width. I find the Bones lose their shape and generally wear down too fast for my liking but im currently out of options since it seems like Autobahn must be done.

Ricta NRG Nyjah's are 52mm and 27.7 wide.  The NRG formula is awesome too

https://www.nhsfunfactory.com/nyjah-huston-52mm-pro-design-99a-ricta-skateboard-wheels

I’ll check out the rictas. Thanks!

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« Reply #1015 on: February 03, 2018, 10:04:43 AM »
I was a ricta naturals guy for my first 10 years - they are not faster than f4s of any durometer/size.

edit: I'll fuckin race you!

When was the last time you rode set? Everyone uses different [marketing] formulas these days...the Ricta NRG, at 99a feel faster than F4s to me; I've ridden spits since they launched the OG classic but the F4s feel soft and sluggish to me compared to OJ insanes and Ricta NRGs.

I'm gonna stop you right there, Insane-a-thane feels like skating chalk, are slower than f4s and are a major pain in the ass to powerslide.
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« Reply #1016 on: February 03, 2018, 10:13:56 AM »
Also F4s feel a lot different depending on the combo of size/shape/duro.

My 54 101 classics "feel" softer and somehow faster than my 57 99 conical fulls. Shits complicated.

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« Reply #1017 on: February 03, 2018, 11:54:20 AM »
I was a ricta naturals guy for my first 10 years - they are not faster than f4s of any durometer/size.

edit: I'll fuckin race you!

When was the last time you rode set? Everyone uses different [marketing] formulas these days...the Ricta NRG, at 99a feel faster than F4s to me; I've ridden spits since they launched the OG classic but the F4s feel soft and sluggish to me compared to OJ insanes and Ricta NRGs.

I'm gonna stop you right there, Insane-a-thane feels like skating chalk, are slower than f4s and are a major pain in the ass to powerslide.

Not chalky at all, not even sure what that means...do they crumble or something? Have you actually had wheels made out of chalk? Do they leave chalk lines after you powersli...oh wait you can't  ::)

Like I said, they feel faster to me, especially in a park setting, on par with SPF / F4s feel soft and slow (but nice and grippy) in a park setting but perfectly acceptable on streets, especially shitty streets, great rebound.

Can't powersilde? Go faster?

I prefer hard as rocks wheels, which spits are not compared to SPFs, Rictas or Insanes...

But, FWIW, I'm curently riding F4s radial slims.
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #1018 on: February 03, 2018, 01:03:25 PM »
Anyone know of a wheel slimmer or as slim as the Bones V3? The 50mm ones I skate are 28mm in width. I have had Autobahn slims which were 27mm width. I find the Bones lose their shape and generally wear down too fast for my liking but im currently out of options since it seems like Autobahn must be done.

Not sure of the exact width but most of Crupie's are really slim.
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« Reply #1019 on: February 03, 2018, 01:04:48 PM »
Anyone know of a wheel slimmer or as slim as the Bones V3? The 50mm ones I skate are 28mm in width. I have had Autobahn slims which were 27mm width. I find the Bones lose their shape and generally wear down too fast for my liking but im currently out of options since it seems like Autobahn must be done.

Not sure of the exact width but most of Crupie's are really slim.
Amazing value since the retail price is quite cheap and they feel as good or better than the big dogs.

This. The team crupies are stupid slim, couldn't deal with it.