Author Topic: Wheels Thread  (Read 128621 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Xen

  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 2072
  • Rep: 7
Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #1020 on: February 03, 2018, 05:03:32 PM »
Anyone know of a wheel slimmer or as slim as the Bones V3? The 50mm ones I skate are 28mm in width. I have had Autobahn slims which were 27mm width. I find the Bones lose their shape and generally wear down too fast for my liking but im currently out of options since it seems like Autobahn must be done.

Not sure of the exact width but most of Crupie's are really slim.
Amazing value since the retail price is quite cheap and they feel as good or better than the big dogs.

This. The team crupies are stupid slim, couldn't deal with it.

The widest they seem to make is 31mm, most are 28/29mm - I might have to check some out!

Beeker

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 64
  • Rep: 0
Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #1021 on: February 03, 2018, 07:22:33 PM »
Are there any wheels out there that are like the bones rough riders but not bouncy? i like to do tricks on my cruiser but the bones wheels i have are bouncy and it makes my tricks feel weird

I would give the Powell G-Slides a shot, they aren't super bouncy because they are a little bit harder, but they are a real good cruiser wheel.

tangar

  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 1909
  • Rep: 62
  • THINK LESS
Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #1022 on: February 03, 2018, 11:10:22 PM »
Fucked around with a bunch of stuff the last few months. Really liked waywards but they don’t last long enough. Tried Powerflex, they feel a little too plasticky but also felt like they didn’t give the way I wanted on powerslides, but I’m sure they’d last a while. Went back to 99 conicals the other day and even tho the first 180 powerslide I did felt wild. They dialed right back in and slid when I wanted and felt grippy enough on Black parking lot pavement. Taking them out tomorrow again.
Man the long board truck thing killed indy for me. I was willing to set aside the racism, but long boarding, gtfo... - DH

colt cannon lunchbox

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 671
  • Rep: -95
Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #1023 on: February 06, 2018, 12:39:06 PM »
Best wheels for shitty surfaces? Would it be a 99 FA or STF? I'm currently riding Insanathane's worn down to about 50mm so I realise sizing up to about a 54 would help a lot as well.

Xen

  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 2072
  • Rep: 7
Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #1024 on: February 06, 2018, 04:12:34 PM »
Best wheels for shitty surfaces? Would it be a 99 FA or STF? I'm currently riding Insanathane's worn down to about 50mm so I realise sizing up to about a 54 would help a lot as well.

F4s

JusticeAbberdash

  • Guest
Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #1025 on: February 06, 2018, 04:14:42 PM »
99a F4s are pretty soft feeling for a street wheel. I'd recommend the radials!

NJFly318

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 72
  • Rep: 0
Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #1026 on: February 06, 2018, 06:02:31 PM »
99a F4s are pretty soft feeling for a street wheel. I'd recommend the radials!

I just bought a set yesterday, can't wait to try them out.

rob

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 771
  • Rep: -87
  • Lance Mountain
Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #1027 on: February 06, 2018, 06:08:32 PM »
Best wheels for shitty surfaces? Would it be a 99 FA or STF? I'm currently riding Insanathane's worn down to about 50mm so I realise sizing up to about a 54 would help a lot as well.

Stf are way smoother on rough surfaces and retain speed better too, f4 are still as good but not on rough ground
yes

tzhangdox

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 512
  • Rep: 18
Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #1028 on: February 06, 2018, 06:18:05 PM »
Best wheels for shitty surfaces? Would it be a 99 FA or STF? I'm currently riding Insanathane's worn down to about 50mm so I realise sizing up to about a 54 would help a lot as well.

Stf are way smoother on rough surfaces and retain speed better too, f4 are still as good but not on rough ground

As much as I like the feel of f4s over the plastickyness of stfs, I have to agree with this. Despite being a harder wheel, they almost feel softer than 99 f4s on shit ground.

mynameisnotjeff

  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 2748
  • Rep: 47
Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #1029 on: February 06, 2018, 11:25:39 PM »
Want to pick up some Bones Rough Riders for a slappy/cruiser/trick set up but want to know what are the experiences you guys have had with them (Already running key frames on another set-up, but need some slide)
Nothing I do deserves more than an iphone camera.

SJ

  • Guest
Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #1030 on: February 07, 2018, 12:02:16 AM »
How do F4 Radial slims in 99 and 101 compare? Which one would be better for street?

Krooked antihero

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 642
  • Rep: 32
Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #1031 on: February 07, 2018, 12:06:50 AM »
How do F4 Radial slims in 99 and 101 compare? Which one would be better for street?
I skate Bones stf’s but skated a set of F4’s in both duros and I prefer 101’s over 99’s.
europe's like the capitol of england and france and whatever

rob

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 771
  • Rep: -87
  • Lance Mountain
Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #1032 on: February 07, 2018, 01:15:46 AM »
Best wheels for shitty surfaces? Would it be a 99 FA or STF? I'm currently riding Insanathane's worn down to about 50mm so I realise sizing up to about a 54 would help a lot as well.

Stf are way smoother on rough surfaces and retain speed better too, f4 are still as good but not on rough ground

As much as I like the feel of f4s over the plastickyness of stfs, I have to agree with this. Despite being a harder wheel, they almost feel softer than 99 f4s on shit ground.

Haha yeah same, I came back to f4 just cause of the feel

I still like bones and think they make the best wheels but idk spits just have this like board feel thing going on

Bones makes a better cruiser formula, street formula, park formula and pp standard formula(100’s) and you can’t go wrong but yeah spits add board feel how they roll against the streets

It’s weird

Also to the bones rough riders question, definitely bones atf formula beats all other cruiser wheels! My old Chris ray bones atf filmer wheels were faster than any cruiser wheel I’ve ever had or tried and they were classic shaped and shaved down to 51 still going fast and rolled over everything
yes

Turtle Boy

  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 2521
  • Rep: 129
Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #1033 on: February 07, 2018, 03:56:38 AM »
Best wheels for shitty surfaces? Would it be a 99 FA or STF? I'm currently riding Insanathane's worn down to about 50mm so I realise sizing up to about a 54 would help a lot as well.

Stf are way smoother on rough surfaces and retain speed better too, f4 are still as good but not on rough ground

As much as I like the feel of f4s over the plastickyness of stfs, I have to agree with this. Despite being a harder wheel, they almost feel softer than 99 f4s on shit ground.
That's what I like about the STF formula, they are the most versatile wheel out in my opinion.

nsskater1993

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 22
  • Rep: 0
Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #1034 on: February 08, 2018, 03:26:09 PM »
the site that I was gonna order those new wheels from updated their stock with some even cheaper options, so I copped some f4 99 54mm and OJ Insaneathane's in 53. Get to try something new and stick with what's worked the best lately. Pretty pumped. Just thought I'd share this with my slap brethren since I asked y'all what to get earlier in the thread.

tzhangdox

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 512
  • Rep: 18
Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #1035 on: February 08, 2018, 06:38:28 PM »
the site that I was gonna order those new wheels from updated their stock with some even cheaper options, so I copped some f4 99 54mm and OJ Insaneathane's in 53. Get to try something new and stick with what's worked the best lately. Pretty pumped. Just thought I'd share this with my slap brethren since I asked y'all what to get earlier in the thread.

Would appreciate a comparison, thank u!

Esquivel

  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 1167
  • Rep: 62
Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #1036 on: February 09, 2018, 01:08:38 AM »
How do F4 Radial slims in 99 and 101 compare? Which one would be better for street?

If you skate in extremely cold environment get the 99's. Otherwise, 101's all day
Chusticiero/Fuma chustas - Person who smokes the end of the joint.

Sedition

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 150
  • Rep: 17
  • Fuck the revoltion. Bring on the apocalypse.
    • Concrete Existence
Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #1037 on: February 12, 2018, 07:26:27 PM »
How do F4 Radial slims in 99 and 101 compare? Which one would be better for street?

If you skate in extremely cold environment get the 99's. Otherwise, 101's all day

I take the opposite approach. 99s are way better than 101. Better on slightly crusty pavement, and not too slick on ramp or “perfect” surface parks.
« Last Edit: February 12, 2018, 09:25:28 PM by Sedition »
"Everything has been figured out, except how to live." -Sartre


tzhangdox

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 512
  • Rep: 18
Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #1038 on: February 12, 2018, 08:10:49 PM »
How do F4 Radial slims in 99 and 101 compare? Which one would be better for street?

If you skate in extremely cold environment get the 99's. Otherwise, 101's all day

I take the opposite approach. 99s are we better than 101. Better on slightly crusty pavement, and not too slick on ramp or “perfect” surface parks.

^this

JusticeAbberdash

  • Guest
Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #1039 on: February 12, 2018, 08:28:33 PM »
How do F4 Radial slims in 99 and 101 compare? Which one would be better for street?

If you skate in extremely cold environment get the 99's. Otherwise, 101's all day

I take the opposite approach. 99s are we better than 101. Better on slightly crusty pavement, and not too slick on ramp or “perfect” surface parks.

^this

I stayed on 99s for a while, but I feel like the 101s are slightly faster, even if they're a little rougher.

Gay Imp Sausage Metal

  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 8844
  • Rep: -384
  • We're just 2 lo(b)s(t)ers sitting behind a screen
Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #1040 on: February 12, 2018, 08:53:15 PM »
99s all day long!

"This is untrue, my client has not been attacked in every country" #yearoftheeagle

Sedition

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 150
  • Rep: 17
  • Fuck the revoltion. Bring on the apocalypse.
    • Concrete Existence
Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #1041 on: February 12, 2018, 09:28:01 PM »
Also, didn’t Schmitt once explaining how there is no such thing as durometer rating over 100?
"Everything has been figured out, except how to live." -Sartre


Jollyoli

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 285
  • Rep: 47
Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #1042 on: February 13, 2018, 06:29:37 AM »
Also, didn’t Schmitt once explaining how there is no such thing as durometer rating over 100?

Yes, he also mentioned it's hard to get people to change units of measurement. People know what 101a is going to be like but no idea what 83b means.

I'm paraphrasing, I don't even own a lab coat.
Hey, hey, hey, hey-now. Don't be mean; we don't have to be mean, cuz, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Buckaroo Banzai.

art hellman

  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 6005
  • Rep: 490
Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #1043 on: February 13, 2018, 07:02:35 AM »
Also, didn’t Schmitt once explaining how there is no such thing as durometer rating over 100?

I'm paraphrasing, I don't even own a lab coat.

hardly art, hardly starving


backinaction

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 91
  • Rep: 12
Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #1044 on: February 13, 2018, 01:20:08 PM »
Also, didn’t Schmitt once explaining how there is no such thing as durometer rating over 100?

The Shore A scale for hardness only goes up to 100.  It is also inaccurate at the ends of the scale.  It really is a poor way to measure skate wheel hardness these days if you want accurate numbers.  That's why one companies 98 may be harder than another companies 100.

The B scale has a more useful durometer range, but it isn't what people are accustomed to.  If all companies went to B scale it would be less confusing, just like if the entire US switched to metric it would be less confusing.  Neither is going to happen.

sododgy

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 91
  • Rep: 8
Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #1045 on: February 13, 2018, 04:13:13 PM »
Also, didn’t Schmitt once explaining how there is no such thing as durometer rating over 100?

The Shore A scale for hardness only goes up to 100.  It is also inaccurate at the ends of the scale.  It really is a poor way to measure skate wheel hardness these days if you want accurate numbers.  That's why one companies 98 may be harder than another companies 100.

The B scale has a more useful durometer range, but it isn't what people are accustomed to.  If all companies went to B scale it would be less confusing, just like if the entire US switched to metric it would be less confusing.  Neither is going to happen.

Time to form the Sk8 Summit to bring everyone together and tackle these issues.

Il Dio sotto la pelle

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 58
  • Rep: 5
Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #1046 on: February 13, 2018, 04:40:54 PM »
been riding 99a F4s for the longest, any recommendations for a softer, I guess "cruiser" wheel? I'm definitely not straying away from F4s, but I'm looking for something a little softer, but still has enough integrity to go decently fast and not feel "chalky" if that makes any sense.

TheVisitor

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 115
  • Rep: -12
Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #1047 on: February 16, 2018, 11:08:47 PM »
Has anyone got a chance to skate the Spitfire Formula 4 Lock Ins? Are they legit or just a gimmick? I don't know how I feel about just one side being cut straight and the other side being radial. I like to rotate my wheels every so often to insure even wear but it seems like rotating these would negate the 'lock in' feature since the radial side would now be on the inside of the trucks.

backinaction

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 91
  • Rep: 12
Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #1048 on: February 17, 2018, 11:45:32 AM »
Has anyone got a chance to skate the Spitfire Formula 4 Lock Ins? Are they legit or just a gimmick? I don't know how I feel about just one side being cut straight and the other side being radial. I like to rotate my wheels every so often to insure even wear but it seems like rotating these would negate the 'lock in' feature since the radial side would now be on the inside of the trucks.

I have a set of the 55mm 101s and they do what they claim.  I can consistently get a few feet longer on grinds with less effort.  I have only skated them at parks with coping or angle iron, or on ramps.   

Unfortunately,  I got a flat spot 30 minutes in with the while skating a masonite mini ramp. That's a bit of a bummer. It's my first experience with the 101 F4s. 

One thing I do notice is that they have a wider riding surface and so they are a bit slower, but you have to give something to get something. Forget rotating them.  I give the shape the thumbs up.

That said, I would like to see a slightly thinner version of them just because the riding surface is so wide they are heavier than the same size of another cut.  I think a thinner shape -and maybe a classic cut on the non lock-in side - would make them a bit faster and quicker to flip.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2018, 10:09:10 PM by backinaction »

calvinsdream

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 929
  • Rep: 13
  • Dusted and disgusted
Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #1049 on: March 08, 2018, 09:57:52 AM »
I saw in the Nyjah Thrasher some ad where it's someone airing out of a pool with OJ hot juice wheels (the 60mms), and I remember from a Winkowski interview that he packs several packs of those wheels with him on road trips.

I've used them as a cruiser wheel, but I really can't see any benefit to using them on transition - is there something I'm missing? They're like 78a and smush out pretty hard.