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« Reply #1050 on: March 08, 2018, 10:14:32 AM »
I saw in the Nyjah Thrasher some ad where it's someone airing out of a pool with OJ hot juice wheels (the 60mms), and I remember from a Winkowski interview that he packs several packs of those wheels with him on road trips.

I've used them as a cruiser wheel, but I really can't see any benefit to using them on transition - is there something I'm missing? They're like 78a and smush out pretty hard.

those are the same style of wheel dudes pioneered vert on.

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« Reply #1051 on: March 20, 2018, 01:47:07 PM »
Spitfire is still made in the USA right? I just bought some OJs because they said USA MADE on them, but it turns out they're made in China.  It's not a big deal, I just like to buy stuff that doesn't travel half way around the world burning fossil fuels when I can.

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« Reply #1052 on: March 20, 2018, 01:56:45 PM »
I believe they are made in SF just like Indy, Thunder, Venture.

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« Reply #1053 on: March 20, 2018, 03:31:40 PM »
AB BiB?

Bunch of new AB wheels up...lots of 'widebody' wheels...

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Autobahn_Skateboard_Wheels/catpage-WHAUTOBAHN.html
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« Reply #1054 on: March 20, 2018, 09:06:12 PM »
How are autobanh compared to f4?

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« Reply #1055 on: March 20, 2018, 09:29:50 PM »
How are autobanh compared to f4?

Tried skating a pair of the dual euro. They refuse to slide only came in a really slim shape and made overall unhappy
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« Reply #1056 on: March 21, 2018, 12:14:45 PM »
The company is USA made, the wheels however are not made IN the USA
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« Reply #1057 on: March 21, 2018, 01:38:24 PM »
How are autobanh compared to f4?

I've always found them somewhat sticky. The 99s don't want to slide at all; I did enjoy the 101 slim shape tho but the wider 101s weren't as forgiving on slides. They've never felt like anything special to me, average wheels much like .sml and these dogtowns I'm riding, all made in the USA and presumably at the same factory as all three felt eerily similar, especially the .sml and dogtowns.

If you like F4s, chances are you won't like the ABs.

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« Reply #1058 on: March 21, 2018, 08:40:15 PM »
How are autobanh compared to f4?

I've always found them somewhat sticky. The 99s don't want to slide at all; I did enjoy the 101 slim shape tho but the wider 101s weren't as forgiving on slides. They've never felt like anything special to me, average wheels much like .sml and these dogtowns I'm riding, all made in the USA and presumably at the same factory as all three felt eerily similar, especially the .sml and dogtowns.

If you like F4s, chances are you won't like the ABs.

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I canít remeber if it was mark appleyard talking about them that got me curious but yeah I kinda wanna see if thereís something special out there but eh
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« Reply #1059 on: March 22, 2018, 08:34:59 AM »
Spitfire is still made in the USA right? I just bought some OJs because they said USA MADE on them, but it turns out they're made in China.  It's not a big deal, I just like to buy stuff that doesn't travel half way around the world burning fossil fuels when I can.
Companies do not have production in China for quality. I try to never use any skate product that comes China.

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« Reply #1060 on: March 25, 2018, 03:09:31 AM »
In reaction to the local bowls copping the anti graffiti paint, and becoming way too slick as a result, I changed it up from F4 99ís, which I have been running since they came on to the market, to powerflex. They seem pretty good, just as quick as F4ís, no flat spots so far, and a little bit grippier, which is what I wanted. Prolly not that great for street, with the extra grip being unwanted in that scenario, but good for tranny and park.

Edit: bombed a couple of hills today with these and holy hell youíd wanna pony up before you sesh slide them, they grip like crazy!
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« Reply #1061 on: March 31, 2018, 02:07:14 AM »
Iíve been wondering but anyone got opinions on the f4 99 vs 101?

Iíve been skating the 99 always besides when I recently went back to bones stf and now back on the spits f4 cause yeah the bones are smoother, faster and roll over stuff better but they lack this feel being so impervious to the streets

So yeah, how are the f4 101 compared to the 99 besides that they slip out easier?

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« Reply #1062 on: March 31, 2018, 02:37:43 AM »
They're a bit harder and and a bit less grippy. Otherwise they're exactly the same. For slippery indoor parks I prefer the 99, for skating outside the 101. For really rough streets (what 99% of streets are here) I prefer neither as they're way too slow for that, gotta use Keyframes or some other soft wheel to maintain any speed on these rough ass streets.

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« Reply #1063 on: March 31, 2018, 08:22:52 AM »
In reaction to the local bowls copping the anti graffiti paint, and becoming way too slick as a result, I changed it up from F4 99ís, which I have been running since they came on to the market, to powerflex. They seem pretty good, just as quick as F4ís, no flat spots so far, and a little bit grippier, which is what I wanted. Prolly not that great for street, with the extra grip being unwanted in that scenario, but good for tranny and park.

Edit: bombed a couple of hills today with these and holy hell youíd wanna pony up before you sesh slide them, they grip like crazy!

Those are the Jim Grey ones yah?  My friend flat spotted them bad super fast....

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« Reply #1064 on: March 31, 2018, 10:01:24 AM »
Iíve been wondering but anyone got opinions on the f4 99 vs 101?

Iíve been skating the 99 always besides when I recently went back to bones stf and now back on the spits f4 cause yeah the bones are smoother, faster and roll over stuff better but they lack this feel being so impervious to the streets

So yeah, how are the f4 101 compared to the 99 besides that they slip out easier?

101s are too slippery for me, always skated the 99s
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« Reply #1065 on: March 31, 2018, 11:06:59 AM »
still looking for that magical cruiser wheel that slides. theyíre either too springy and grippy or so hard you might as well skate regular wheels instead. any such thing yet?

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« Reply #1066 on: March 31, 2018, 12:19:46 PM »
In reaction to the local bowls copping the anti graffiti paint, and becoming way too slick as a result, I changed it up from F4 99ís, which I have been running since they came on to the market, to powerflex. They seem pretty good, just as quick as F4ís, no flat spots so far, and a little bit grippier, which is what I wanted. Prolly not that great for street, with the extra grip being unwanted in that scenario, but good for tranny and park.

Edit: bombed a couple of hills today with these and holy hell youíd wanna pony up before you sesh slide them, they grip like crazy!

Those are the Jim Grey ones yah?  My friend flat spotted them bad super fast....

Yep those are the ones. I havenít flat spotted them yet, Iíll see how they go.

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« Reply #1067 on: March 31, 2018, 04:06:32 PM »
still looking for that magical cruiser wheel that slides. theyíre either too springy and grippy or so hard you might as well skate regular wheels instead. any such thing yet?

Powell bomber 85a are a big soft cruiser wheel that I have no trouble breaking into a powerslide when bombing hills.

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« Reply #1068 on: March 31, 2018, 08:37:20 PM »
still looking for that magical cruiser wheel that slides. theyíre either too springy and grippy or so hard you might as well skate regular wheels instead. any such thing yet?

Have you skated keyframes before? And if so could you give a comparison of the two? I need a new set of cruiser wheels, and have been on keyframes for the past two years. They are awesome, but no slide, so your comments have me thinking about trying out the bombers

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« Reply #1069 on: March 31, 2018, 09:42:52 PM »
I road 58 mm key frames on my Ďstreet masherí for 2 years also and they are awesome but...like you said. I bought 54 mm sml wheels 92a based on this thread and they are great. Much faster than key frames but still have that bounce. I am not great at sliding but the person who recommended them says they slide. The sml wheels give you more connection to the street and handle rough patches nearly as well as the Keyframes.

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« Reply #1070 on: March 31, 2018, 11:12:59 PM »
still looking for that magical cruiser wheel that slides. theyíre either too springy and grippy or so hard you might as well skate regular wheels instead. any such thing yet?

I've got a set of Powell Mini Cubics that I bought for nostalgia reasons.  They are 95a.  But those things are quiet and roll smooth as hell.  So I think you can go way harder than the typical cruiser wheels and be good.  Powell has a wheel in 97 with a regular shape.  And OJ has 'Mini Combos' in 95 that look good too.


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« Reply #1071 on: April 01, 2018, 11:36:13 PM »
Hey I just realized, the radial shape is just a worn in broken in shaped classic

Notice when you ride classics for too long and they eventually become more square than oval originally, radials are those worn out squared up classics but now you can have that shape in a real rideable size and feeling new

No wonder I loved the radial, so yeah if you arenít feeling classics get radials

I recommend, now should I get the f4 101 classic or radial...
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« Reply #1072 on: April 02, 2018, 03:00:31 AM »
Hey I just realized, the radial shape is just a worn in broken in shaped classic

Notice when you ride classics for too long and they eventually become more square than oval originally, radials are those worn out squared up classics but now you can have that shape in a real rideable size and feeling new

No wonder I loved the radial, so yeah if you arenít feeling classics get radials

I recommend, now should I get the f4 101 classic or radial...

i'd go with radial, 101s are pretty slippery so a wheel with a wider riding surface would be better imo
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« Reply #1073 on: April 02, 2018, 04:00:19 AM »
Hey I just realized, the radial shape is just a worn in broken in shaped classic

Notice when you ride classics for too long and they eventually become more square than oval originally, radials are those worn out squared up classics but now you can have that shape in a real rideable size and feeling new

No wonder I loved the radial, so yeah if you arenít feeling classics get radials

I recommend, now should I get the f4 101 classic or radial...

i'd go with radial, 101s are pretty slippery so a wheel with a wider riding surface would be better imo

A wider wheel isn't any grippier than a narrower though.

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« Reply #1074 on: April 02, 2018, 04:18:22 AM »
Hey I just realized, the radial shape is just a worn in broken in shaped classic

Notice when you ride classics for too long and they eventually become more square than oval originally, radials are those worn out squared up classics but now you can have that shape in a real rideable size and feeling new

No wonder I loved the radial, so yeah if you arenít feeling classics get radials

I recommend, now should I get the f4 101 classic or radial...

i'd go with radial, 101s are pretty slippery so a wheel with a wider riding surface would be better imo

A wider wheel isn't any grippier than a narrower though.
more contact gives more grip, so wider wheels are grippier

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« Reply #1075 on: April 02, 2018, 04:30:09 AM »
Hey I just realized, the radial shape is just a worn in broken in shaped classic

Notice when you ride classics for too long and they eventually become more square than oval originally, radials are those worn out squared up classics but now you can have that shape in a real rideable size and feeling new

No wonder I loved the radial, so yeah if you arenít feeling classics get radials

I recommend, now should I get the f4 101 classic or radial...

i'd go with radial, 101s are pretty slippery so a wheel with a wider riding surface would be better imo

A wider wheel isn't any grippier than a narrower though.
more contact gives more grip, so wider wheels are grippier

Common misconception, but not true.

Check this for example for a simple explanation:

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« Reply #1076 on: April 02, 2018, 04:46:06 AM »
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« Reply #1077 on: April 02, 2018, 05:51:43 AM »
Really stoked on conical and radial shapes these days. I don't think I could go back to a classic cut.

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« Reply #1078 on: April 02, 2018, 06:42:29 AM »
still looking for that magical cruiser wheel that slides. theyíre either too springy and grippy or so hard you might as well skate regular wheels instead. any such thing yet?

I've got a set of Powell Mini Cubics that I bought for nostalgia reasons.  They are 95a.  But those things are quiet and roll smooth as hell.  So I think you can go way harder than the typical cruiser wheels and be good.  Powell has a wheel in 97 with a regular shape.  And OJ has 'Mini Combos' in 95 that look good too.

I skated the Powell G Slides, which are 85a, for a few days. They slid okay but were really wide and felt heavy and a bit chalky and were pretty hard despite the stated durometer. And currently Iíve been skating the OJ Mini Elites 95a. They are lighter than the G Slides but still pretty heavy and chalky and a little too hard for a smooth ride. I wish companies would take their regular wheel shapes and sizes and just slightly tweak the formula to be softer but not squishy soft, if thatís somehow possible. The cruiser wheels on the market remind me too much of longboard wheels or are just reissues of old school skate wheels.

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« Reply #1079 on: April 02, 2018, 08:22:22 AM »
I have the SPF ditchtechs which were a 94 I think. They are great wheels but they don't make them right now.  I followed up w Powell and they sent me protos for the gslides. Mine are smaller, no core and they work super good on my zip zinger....

My feedback was that I think most guys want the softest they can get without losing that tackiness of your wheels...once it gets squishy it just feels unstable.  I said if they did something like the gslide in a 92 maybe...the idea was that the gslides could be soft but still perform like a harder wheel ie. Slide.