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« Reply #300 on: February 14, 2016, 10:46:41 PM »
Does anybody know what the best speed washers are to use?

I can't tell you if they're better or worse than any other brand but If I need to replace a bent or lost speed ring, i always replace them with Khiro's http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=3956

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« Reply #301 on: February 14, 2016, 11:25:23 PM »
does the smoother rounded side go against your bearing or against the truck?
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« Reply #302 on: February 14, 2016, 11:46:39 PM »
does the smoother rounded side go against your bearing or against the truck?

The smoother side of a speed ring goes against your truck and the axle nut.  that little ridge actually locks into the bearing although I think it's a byproduct of when the rings are press-cut. 

Not all speed rings have it though and honestly i cant imagine it really makes a difference other than I've noticed when the ridged edge is against your truck it tens to cut into the hanger and stick to it when you do wheel swaps

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« Reply #303 on: February 15, 2016, 12:43:40 AM »
i did notice it gets stuck to your hangar but wasnt sure that it would be better off stuck to my bearing, or if it even would. thanks, ill adjust accordingly.
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« Reply #304 on: February 15, 2016, 06:55:42 AM »
typical setup 149 indys all stock, loosen a half turn. i do the quarter turn per week for a month with bushings, to even out the wear.
gotta have wheel jiggle, no spacers. usually 53-54 mm classic f4s with an 8.25-8.5
i used to run risers on all my boards, up to a quarter inch at times. never affected my pop nor tricks, still got wheelbite.
2015 was the first year in a long time i ran a board with no risers and it made no difference.
i love the weight of solid trucks. i do have hollow axle thunders but theyre 147s so thats a lil skinny for my taste, havent seen much action.

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« Reply #305 on: February 15, 2016, 09:31:33 AM »
BMCSteve, I noticed you posted on your Instagram the picture of your Ace's with the downlow kingpin in them, and Joey's response was "stay tuned". I wonder what Ace has in store?
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« Reply #306 on: February 15, 2016, 10:53:26 AM »
Setup a used 8.25 that my friend gave me with some Thunder 149's last night. The 8.25/149 combo is seriously the best combo I've ever ridden. For a while I would only skate 149's on 8.38 and up, but they feel so good on an 8.25. Also the thunder 149s with no bottom washer turns so well. Really loose, but still a decent amount of stability.
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« Reply #307 on: February 15, 2016, 12:05:03 PM »
I always refused to skate anything but stock bushing up until a week ago, I threw some bones mediums into my 159s still keeping them just about finger tight.  I also removed the bottom washer.  So fucking good I was moron for holding out for all these years. 

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« Reply #308 on: February 15, 2016, 01:21:53 PM »
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« Reply #310 on: February 15, 2016, 08:39:20 PM »
BMCSteve, I noticed you posted on your Instagram the picture of your Ace's with the downlow kingpin in them, and Joey's response was "stay tuned". I wonder what Ace has in store?

I was wondering that as well.  Like I mentioned, they would just need to make the baseplate hole to match a kingpin bolt so you can tighten them on the board and you're all set

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« Reply #311 on: February 15, 2016, 11:13:20 PM »
fwiw, thunder plates hold the nut in place like krux plates do.

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« Reply #312 on: February 16, 2016, 05:21:31 AM »
Stock and looser than they come.

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« Reply #313 on: February 16, 2016, 09:46:29 AM »
i did notice it gets stuck to your hangar but wasnt sure that it would be better off stuck to my bearing, or if it even would. thanks, ill adjust accordingly.

I wondered/hated that they got stuck, now I know why, never knew it!

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« Reply #314 on: February 19, 2016, 11:07:13 PM »
Do you guys have tips for the Krux kingpin conversion? I know there was something about this in a thread but I couldn't find it  :-\
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« Reply #315 on: February 19, 2016, 11:29:12 PM »
Do you guys have tips for the Krux kingpin conversion? I know there was something about this in a thread but I couldn't find it  :-\
it was like 12 or more pages back in the set up thread, the skinny of it was that most people hammered out the soild kingpin and it came out, but the hollow ones are hard as shit to get out, i even think steve tried to bake his base plate in an oven so it would come out easier, i'll edit in a link later.
edit: got'cha fam
http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=10804.13530
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« Reply #316 on: February 20, 2016, 12:38:20 AM »
Do you guys have tips for the Krux kingpin conversion? I know there was something about this in a thread but I couldn't find it  :-\
it was like 12 or more pages back in the set up thread, the skinny of it was that most people hammered out the soild kingpin and it came out, but the hollow ones are hard as shit to get out, i even think steve tried to bake his base plate in an oven so it would come out easier, i'll edit in a link later.
edit: got'cha fam
http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=10804.13530
Thank you! I searched the truck set up and didn't find it haha
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« Reply #317 on: February 20, 2016, 12:42:20 AM »
Do you guys have tips for the Krux kingpin conversion? I know there was something about this in a thread but I couldn't find it  :-\
it was like 12 or more pages back in the set up thread, the skinny of it was that most people hammered out the soild kingpin and it came out, but the hollow ones are hard as shit to get out, i even think steve tried to bake his base plate in an oven so it would come out easier, i'll edit in a link later.
edit: got'cha fam
http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=10804.13530
Thank you! I searched the truck set up and didn't find it haha
no problem man.

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« Reply #318 on: February 20, 2016, 06:36:47 AM »
Do you guys have tips for the Krux kingpin conversion? I know there was something about this in a thread but I couldn't find it  :-\
it was like 12 or more pages back in the set up thread, the skinny of it was that most people hammered out the soild kingpin and it came out, but the hollow ones are hard as shit to get out, i even think steve tried to bake his base plate in an oven so it would come out easier, i'll edit in a link later.
edit: got'cha fam
http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=10804.13530
Thank you! I searched the truck set up and didn't find it haha
no problem man.

So I've now found a way to remove the kingpins from forged baseplates.  I've done it on two sets of my Indy's and I did a friends last night.

Remove the pivot cups, bake the baseplate at 500 degrees for 20 minutes, take it out and hit it with a 20lb dumbbell. It's insane but it works.

If you have regular cast baseplates it comes out with just a few wacks from a hammer


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« Reply #319 on: February 20, 2016, 07:25:15 PM »
I skated nothing but ventures for almost 20 years. 5 years ago I decided to switch it up and got some stage 10s. Since then I've spent hundreds of dollars riding trucks for a month then realizing I should just be riding Indys. It's insane. I thought krux were the end of it, but I feel a pressure in my brain, that if I don't buy some 159s tomorrow for this tranny set up, my head is going to burst. It's all I can think about. I should just get an Indy tattoo, then my neurosis wouldn't let me ride anything else. Skating with Steve doesn't help either.
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« Reply #320 on: February 20, 2016, 07:51:51 PM »
I skated nothing but ventures for almost 20 years. 5 years ago I decided to switch it up and got some stage 10s. Since then I've spent hundreds of dollars riding trucks for a month then realizing I should just be riding Indys. It's insane. I thought krux were the end of it, but I feel a pressure in my brain, that if I don't buy some 159s tomorrow for this tranny set up, my head is going to burst. It's all I can think about. I should just get an Indy tattoo, then my neurosis wouldn't let me ride anything else. Skating with Steve doesn't help either.

I'm good with my koston indys but your set-up pics got me hyped on Krux.. Thought about trying them when i'll need new trucks.

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« Reply #321 on: February 20, 2016, 08:00:24 PM »
I think worst case scenario w. Indys.....over rated.....worst case...

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« Reply #322 on: February 20, 2016, 09:14:17 PM »
Skating with Steve doesn't help either.

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« Reply #323 on: February 20, 2016, 10:33:19 PM »
I got my Indy and thunder forged pins out without baking, did you guys wear aprons and use baking sheets and pot holders? ;)

Parking block (plate down, pin over the hole), hammer, foot holding down, block of wood over the nut... Trick is to screw the nut on so it's a hair below flush.

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« Reply #324 on: February 20, 2016, 10:43:10 PM »
BMCSteve, I noticed you posted on your Instagram the picture of your Ace's with the downlow kingpin in them, and Joey's response was "stay tuned". I wonder what Ace has in store?

I was wondering that as well.  Like I mentioned, they would just need to make the baseplate hole to match a kingpin bolt so you can tighten them on the board and you're all set
Probably going to lower the kingpin on them
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« Reply #325 on: February 20, 2016, 11:16:36 PM »
I got my Indy and thunder forged pins out without baking, did you guys wear aprons and use baking sheets and pot holders? ;)

Parking block (plate down, pin over the hole), hammer, foot holding down, block of wood over the nut... Trick is to screw the nut on so it's a hair below flush.


True story  - I did use pot holders and I had them on the baking rack next to a pork tenderloin

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« Reply #326 on: February 21, 2016, 04:23:44 AM »
I skated nothing but ventures for almost 20 years. 5 years ago I decided to switch it up and got some stage 10s. Since then I've spent hundreds of dollars riding trucks for a month then realizing I should just be riding Indys. It's insane. I thought krux were the end of it, but I feel a pressure in my brain, that if I don't buy some 159s tomorrow for this tranny set up, my head is going to burst. It's all I can think about. I should just get an Indy tattoo, then my neurosis wouldn't let me ride anything else. Skating with Steve doesn't help either.

I'm good with my koston indys but your set-up pics got me hyped on Krux.. Thought about trying them when i'll need new trucks.
I love my Indy titanium 149s but bought into the krux hype with these fools. Only skated them once so far but they felt fine. Like lighter Indys without the break in time. I don't see me getting rid of either trucks since I have two setups and since the krux skated so well out the gate. Give em a shot, they are super cheap and I don't think you'll be disappointed.  
Edit: I ride my Indys with aftermarket orange bushings but don't think I'll need to make any adjustment on the krux as far as I can tell.
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« Reply #327 on: February 21, 2016, 07:49:27 AM »
I skated nothing but ventures for almost 20 years. 5 years ago I decided to switch it up and got some stage 10s. Since then I've spent hundreds of dollars riding trucks for a month then realizing I should just be riding Indys. It's insane. I thought krux were the end of it, but I feel a pressure in my brain, that if I don't buy some 159s tomorrow for this tranny set up, my head is going to burst. It's all I can think about. I should just get an Indy tattoo, then my neurosis wouldn't let me ride anything else. Skating with Steve doesn't help either.

Haha, I feel you man. I think maybe it just has to do with norms? I mean, when are you going to see some gnarly ass dude shredding tranny in Krux or Ventures? Unless it's Louie Barletta...he gets down on tranny pretty good with his Krux. But I think it's just one of those unspoken rules within the skate community that doing certain things makes certain set-ups acceptable. Tranny=Indy, Ace... Thunder may be acceptable.

Street=I guess pretty much any truck could be acceptable for street. So maybe it's just tranny laws haha. I know this is all really lame but I think it's true. Maybe there are legitimate reasons, Indy does handle really well in pools and transition. I think Thunder's would be kinda weird with the way they turn. At the end of the day it's about what you like, not some protocol of the elder's of hesh law. I haven't pulled the trigger on trying Krux or Thunder's again, still rocking Indy's. They are without a doubt damn good trucks. Just turn a little slow.

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« Reply #328 on: February 21, 2016, 07:51:48 AM »
BMCSteve, I noticed you posted on your Instagram the picture of your Ace's with the downlow kingpin in them, and Joey's response was "stay tuned". I wonder what Ace has in store?

I was wondering that as well.  Like I mentioned, they would just need to make the baseplate hole to match a kingpin bolt so you can tighten them on the board and you're all set
Probably going to lower the kingpin on them

I think you're right.

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« Reply #329 on: February 21, 2016, 11:44:18 AM »
Rumor has it that Krux are based off Stage II Indys - having skated every stage and own XI and Krux, they feeling is soo similar, yet Krux, like ACE, are snappier with turns compared to Indy. My only issue with all three is they feel so high (I like Thunder height). Regular Krux are lighter than Indys and arguably turn just as well (their pivot cups are a little odd, they are really deep and deform oddly, like the turn is very side to side); cheaper too. Throw in the downlow pin and they are lighter than TI Indys.

I watched the Bondi event last night; everyone was riding indy except for McClain and maybe one or two others?

Tons of dudes ride Thunders that shred bowls, Cody lockwood, the Millers, Perelson.
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