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N.L.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #420 on: March 08, 2016, 07:32:10 AM »
i have a new pair of 44s and the axle is 8 3/8.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #421 on: March 08, 2016, 07:59:14 AM »
Ace kinda deters me with these inconsistencies in axle widths, and some kingpins being higher than others from what I've read. I'm not worried about the axle bending or slipping, I just want my truck to actually measure what the damn chart says. Never seen this much conflicting truck info with any other company...

I don't think there are any inconsistencies with the actual widths.  Do what I usually do, which is go by whatever Xen says  :)

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #422 on: March 08, 2016, 08:26:15 AM »
Just use measurements

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #423 on: March 08, 2016, 08:27:10 AM »
Ace kinda deters me with these inconsistencies in axle widths, and some kingpins being higher than others from what I've read. I'm not worried about the axle bending or slipping, I just want my truck to actually measure what the damn chart says. Never seen this much conflicting truck info with any other company...

I don't think there are any inconsistencies with the actual widths.� Do what I usually do, which is go by whatever Xen says� :)

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #424 on: March 08, 2016, 08:37:22 AM »
Man Ace's truck info is all over the place. SoCal skate shop, which is the place to get them as Ace links you directly to there, says:

44-8.25
55-8.875
66-9.5

Then Ace directly tells me via email:

44-8
55-8.625
66-9

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I'm telling ya, take the chart measurements and add 2.5" it's as accurate as you are going to get; also, ACE just run odd, they don't make an 8.5/149, 44s are smaller and 55s are bigger, that's where it all gets screwy.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #425 on: March 08, 2016, 08:47:13 AM »
I shall take your word Xen. Ace told me to add 2.25" to the hanger but it makes more sense with the 2.5".

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #426 on: March 08, 2016, 09:00:15 AM »
I shall take your word Xen. Ace told me to add 2.25" to the hanger but it makes more sense with the 2.5".



Best to just measure ;)
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #427 on: March 08, 2016, 09:03:46 AM »
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N.L.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #428 on: March 08, 2016, 10:48:44 AM »
That chart is wrong for the 44s.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #429 on: March 08, 2016, 11:16:54 AM »
That chart is wrong for the 44s.

5.75+2.5=8.25 which is supposed to be the 44 axle length right?

N.L.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #430 on: March 08, 2016, 11:24:04 AM »
yeah, but they are wider than that. 8 3/8.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #431 on: March 08, 2016, 11:31:45 AM »
yeah, but they are wider than that. 8 3/8.

Yep they are 8.38 but billed as 8.25, also why they suggest adding a few washers on the inside if you want an 8.5"

Also, they did change the hanger taper on the new models, it's very subtle now.

N.L.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #432 on: March 08, 2016, 01:49:45 PM »
Xen, do you know if the 55s measure as advertised?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #433 on: March 08, 2016, 02:03:27 PM »
the set of 44's i had were most definitely 100% 8.38 inches wide from tip to tip. I measured over and over again. It kept me up at night.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #434 on: March 08, 2016, 03:33:02 PM »
Trucks shouldn't be this complicated. I'm not really one to talk, but damn...
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #435 on: March 08, 2016, 04:07:03 PM »
Trucks shouldn't be this complicated. I'm not really one to talk, but damn...

Truck Cos need to stop with funky numbers and just use inches - At least Krux is on that game.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #436 on: March 08, 2016, 04:52:42 PM »
Trucks shouldn't be this complicated. I'm not really one to talk, but damn...

Truck Cos need to stop with funky numbers and just use inches - At least Krux is on that game.
They're all measuring hangar, not axle. So like with Aces, 44s are 144mm hangar, which rounds to 5.7 inches. if they just measured by axle width, it would make everyone happy, even if it was in mm. just a standard of truck measurement.
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N.L.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #437 on: March 08, 2016, 06:50:51 PM »
well they measure both axle and hangar but you are correct, hangar width is more relevant to performance.

44s aren't 44. they are 146. 55s are 162

indy started the misleading trend by using cooler sounding numbers like 169 or 169 or 151 rather than actual measurements.

indy 149s are actually 149 but thunder 149s are 151. its pretty ridiculous... but funny... skateboarding...
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #438 on: March 08, 2016, 07:00:36 PM »
well they measure both axle and hangar but you are correct, hangar width is more relevant to performance.

44s aren't 44. they are 146. 55s are 162

indy started to misleading trend by using cooler sounding numbers like 169 or 169 or 151 rather than actual measurements.

indy 149s are actually 149 but thunder 149s are 151. its pretty ridiculous... but funny... skateboarding...

Indy 149 and Thunder 149 both have a 149mm hanger.  Here's where it gets stupid - Indy 159 and Thunder 151 both have a 156mm Hanger. 

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #439 on: March 08, 2016, 07:13:18 PM »
remeasure thunder 149s.... you'll see. slightly wider than indy 149s (stage 11) at 151mm.

whereas thunder 151s are actually 156mm, same as indy 159s... like you said.


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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #440 on: March 08, 2016, 10:35:24 PM »
all this thread confirms, is that SCIENCE will always be cooler than math.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #441 on: March 09, 2016, 06:35:47 AM »
remeasure thunder 149s.... you'll see. slightly wider than indy 149s (stage 11) at 151mm.

whereas thunder 151s are actually 156mm, same as indy 159s... like you said.



Not that any of this craziness matters but I measured 149 Thunder and Indy and they are the exact same length on both the hanger and axle


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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #442 on: March 09, 2016, 07:02:57 AM »
Next step, measure brand new sets of 44, 55, and 66 redesigns and report back soldier.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #443 on: March 09, 2016, 07:10:01 AM »
Time to make your own truck forum, guys, we don't want any more line on that shit here on slap !  ;D
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N.L.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #444 on: March 09, 2016, 07:38:44 AM »
remeasure thunder 149s.... you'll see. slightly wider than indy 149s (stage 11) at 151mm.

whereas thunder 151s are actually 156mm, same as indy 159s... like you said.



Not that any of this craziness matters but I measured 149 Thunder and Indy and they are the exact same length on both the hanger and axle





the indy looks wider in that photo.when i measured i got a wider thunder. either way, 1mm each side isn't going to mean anything to my shitty skateboard technique.

this thread has come to an awkward place. ha ha...

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #445 on: March 09, 2016, 08:58:14 AM »
remeasure thunder 149s.... you'll see. slightly wider than indy 149s (stage 11) at 151mm.

whereas thunder 151s are actually 156mm, same as indy 159s... like you said.



Not that any of this craziness matters but I measured 149 Thunder and Indy and they are the exact same length on both the hanger and axle





the indy looks wider in that photo.when i measured i got a wider thunder. either way, 1mm each side isn't going to mean anything to my shitty skateboard technique.

this thread has come to an awkward place. ha ha...

At this point it's just hilarious that we're discussing 1mm of width on a truck hanger.  this is the exact moment that the entire thread has jumped the shark  :D

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #446 on: March 09, 2016, 09:05:50 AM »
remeasure thunder 149s.... you'll see. slightly wider than indy 149s (stage 11) at 151mm.

whereas thunder 151s are actually 156mm, same as indy 159s... like you said.



Not that any of this craziness matters but I measured 149 Thunder and Indy and they are the exact same length on both the hanger and axle





the indy looks wider in that photo.when i measured i got a wider thunder. either way, 1mm each side isn't going to mean anything to my shitty skateboard technique.

this thread has come to an awkward place. ha ha...

At this point it's just hilarious that we're discussing 1mm of width on a truck hanger.  this is the exact moment that the entire thread has jumped the shark  :D
I wonder if ermico had an allowable margin of error on their widths. I'm sure they do. Or during the threading of the axels they sometimes give an extra turn, or one less... QUICK COUNT YOUR THREADS.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #447 on: March 09, 2016, 09:07:21 AM »
i agree and do from this moment on pledge to grind more and keyboard less.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #448 on: March 09, 2016, 09:29:39 AM »
I started all of this...I'm a worthless asshole who deserves to die young.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #449 on: March 09, 2016, 11:20:54 AM »
i agree and do from this moment on pledge to grind more and keyboard less.

If I didn't have to be at 'work' I'd be grinding more.