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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #450 on: March 09, 2016, 12:11:20 PM »
keep on nerding about trucks, dudes, i like to read that crap

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #451 on: March 10, 2016, 05:47:59 AM »
holy shit i scared them !

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« Reply #452 on: March 10, 2016, 07:39:32 AM »
oh i'm still here, panicking of whether Lee Ralph rides 44s or 55s and if i get 55s should i wait a bit because the hangar width might be  shortened and they might invert the kingpin but what if stage 12s come out this summer? fuck then what do i do? and how will the stage 12s be different to 11s? and then if thunder rehash the 151 christ i'll be incapacitated with indecision, sleepless nights concerned with turning geometry, location of manufacturing, dimensions, bushing quality, kingpin exposure but really i'm a 40 yr old man who slaps curbs and slashes pool coping. why does it even matter? am i just trying to avoid thinking about real shit like money, career, family and my steep demise into ineptitude  and eventual death? what was it all for? how much time did i consume thinking about something so meaningless? but isn't that what the buddhists say, take things of little matter very seriously and shrug of the big things. its all about the fucking trucks...

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #453 on: March 10, 2016, 08:22:35 AM »
I went out and got an Indy tattoo so in my mind I could only ride Indys, but then last night I remembered that old pic of Jamie Thomas shaving his head and his Indy tramp stamp and he rides thunders, almost had a breakdown.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #454 on: March 10, 2016, 08:31:44 AM »
I went out and got an Indy tattoo so in my mind I could only ride Indys, but then last night I remembered that old pic of Jamie Thomas shaving his head and his Indy tramp stamp and he rides thunders, almost had a breakdown.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #455 on: March 10, 2016, 08:38:41 AM »
I'm starting to get a little disappointed with my Ace's. They turn fine, but they don't feel very different than my Indys. Everyone talked about how quickly they turn, but I have to ride it wobbly loose just to get a good enough turn. Should I try some different bushings? Or maybe is it that I came off 169's down to the 44s?
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #456 on: March 10, 2016, 08:43:29 AM »
I went out and got an Indy tattoo so in my mind I could only ride Indys, but then last night I remembered that old pic of Jamie Thomas shaving his head and his Indy tramp stamp and he rides thunders, almost had a breakdown.

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Pretty sure he justifies it now by via being and independant type of dude ;)

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #457 on: March 10, 2016, 08:45:27 AM »
I'm starting to get a little disappointed with my Ace's. They turn fine, but they don't feel very different than my Indys. Everyone talked about how quickly they turn, but I have to ride it wobbly loose just to get a good enough turn. Should I try some different bushings? Or maybe is it that I came off 169's down to the 44s?

Try Krux bushings and Khiro soft pivot cups.  I was so confused when I got my Ace's.  The bushings were super hard and the turn was slow and shallow.

I didn't end up keeping the trucks but after swapping the bushings and pivot cups they turned amazingly well

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #458 on: March 10, 2016, 08:50:17 AM »
take things of little matter very seriously and shrug of the big things. its all about the fucking trucks...
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #459 on: March 10, 2016, 08:51:16 AM »
oh i'm still here, panicking of whether Lee Ralph rides 44s or 55s and if i get 55s should i wait a bit because the hangar width might be� shortened and they might invert the kingpin but what if stage 12s come out this summer? fuck then what do i do? and how will the stage 12s be different to 11s? and then if thunder rehash the 151 christ i'll be incapacitated with indecision, sleepless nights concerned with turning geometry, location of manufacturing, dimensions, bushing quality, kingpin exposure but really i'm a 40 yr old man who slaps curbs and slashes pool coping. why does it even matter? am i just trying to avoid thinking about real shit like money, career, family and my steep demise into ineptitude� and eventual death? what was it all for? how much time did i consume thinking about something so meaningless? but isn't that what the buddhists say, take things of little matter very seriously and shrug of the big things. its all about the fucking trucks...


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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #460 on: March 10, 2016, 04:31:29 PM »
I'm starting to get a little disappointed with my Ace's. They turn fine, but they don't feel very different than my Indys. Everyone talked about how quickly they turn, but I have to ride it wobbly loose just to get a good enough turn. Should I try some different bushings? Or maybe is it that I came off 169's down to the 44s?

Try Krux bushings and Khiro soft pivot cups.  I was so confused when I got my Ace's.  The bushings were super hard and the turn was slow and shallow.

I didn't end up keeping the trucks but after swapping the bushings and pivot cups they turned amazingly well

Putting Krux bushings in my aces was the best decision I've ever made. I was having to tighten the nut on my front truck every few minutes to be able to skate them as loose as I wanted until I threw the krux bushings in. Total life changer
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« Reply #461 on: March 10, 2016, 06:30:13 PM »
I'm starting to get a little disappointed with my Ace's. They turn fine, but they don't feel very different than my Indys. Everyone talked about how quickly they turn, but I have to ride it wobbly loose just to get a good enough turn. Should I try some different bushings? Or maybe is it that I came off 169's down to the 44s?

Try Krux bushings and Khiro soft pivot cups.  I was so confused when I got my Ace's.  The bushings were super hard and the turn was slow and shallow.

I didn't end up keeping the trucks but after swapping the bushings and pivot cups they turned amazingly well

Putting Krux bushings in my aces was the best decision I've ever made. I was having to tighten the nut on my front trunk every few minutes to be able to skate them as loose as I wanted until I threw the krux bushings in. Total life changer

agreed. even if its just the krux top bushing. great combo.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #462 on: March 10, 2016, 06:54:45 PM »
paritally because of this thread....I've set up a new board....

Ace 44's on an 8.5.....the 8 3/8's is bang on.....

Set up those bones with the built,in spacers and they set up exactly how I wanted....super tight and they spin exactly how new bearings should. I'm stoked....I'm curious how they hold up to me landing primo every 2nd kickflip.....I've had problems w. Axel slip on lots of trucks and my theory is if everything is tighter, it's less likely to happen.

Put on some of those baby risers too just cause I insisted they are a good idea.....

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #463 on: March 10, 2016, 07:05:58 PM »
too lazy to look back in thread. whats the best argument for 149s over 139 indys?

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« Reply #464 on: March 10, 2016, 09:33:36 PM »
too lazy to look back in thread. whats the best argument for 149s over 139 indys?

stability vs flipability

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #465 on: March 10, 2016, 09:38:40 PM »
I went out and got an Indy tattoo so in my mind I could only ride Indys, but then last night I remembered that old pic of Jamie Thomas shaving his head and his Indy tramp stamp and he rides thunders, almost had a breakdown.

Dying  :D



Pretty sure he justifies it now by via being and independant type of dude ;)

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #466 on: March 10, 2016, 11:08:17 PM »
too lazy to look back in thread. whats the best argument for 149s over 139 indys?

stability vs flipability

We've concluded the 149 is definitely larger.....we're not sure by how much....

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #467 on: March 11, 2016, 07:54:46 AM »
I'm starting to get a little disappointed with my Ace's. They turn fine, but they don't feel very different than my Indys. Everyone talked about how quickly they turn, but I have to ride it wobbly loose just to get a good enough turn. Should I try some different bushings? Or maybe is it that I came off 169's down to the 44s?

Try Krux bushings and Khiro soft pivot cups.  I was so confused when I got my Ace's.  The bushings were super hard and the turn was slow and shallow.

I didn't end up keeping the trucks but after swapping the bushings and pivot cups they turned amazingly well
Thanks Steve. I assume I need the large pivot cups?
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« Reply #468 on: March 11, 2016, 08:46:28 AM »
I'm starting to get a little disappointed with my Ace's. They turn fine, but they don't feel very different than my Indys. Everyone talked about how quickly they turn, but I have to ride it wobbly loose just to get a good enough turn. Should I try some different bushings? Or maybe is it that I came off 169's down to the 44s?

Try Krux bushings and Khiro soft pivot cups.  I was so confused when I got my Ace's.  The bushings were super hard and the turn was slow and shallow.

I didn't end up keeping the trucks but after swapping the bushings and pivot cups they turned amazingly well
Thanks Steve. I assume I need the large pivot cups?

Nope, you'll actually need the small cups - http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=3600

they fit perfectly in the Ace baseplate

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #469 on: March 11, 2016, 05:26:11 PM »
Got some Ace 55's today. Wasn't 100% if they'd fit the shaped deck I wanted and sure enough they line up perfect. Maybe just a hair short, but the 66's were too wide. I'm keeping them stock, for now. I noticed on SoCal Skate Shop that Ace sells aftermarket bushings...haven't seen anyone mention this. I wonder if it's like Indy where their aftermarkets are better quality than stock?
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« Reply #470 on: March 12, 2016, 12:48:09 AM »
Ace sells aftermarket bushings...haven't seen anyone mention this. I wonder if it's like Indy where their aftermarkets are better quality than stock?

They're the exact same.
There's a contingent of Ace fans that really love the stock bushings (the pivots? not so much). So they decided to offer them separately.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #471 on: March 12, 2016, 12:58:26 AM »
Anyone try Mini Logo bushings yet?


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« Reply #472 on: March 12, 2016, 07:20:13 AM »
Anyone try Mini Logo bushings yet?



I haven't but I wonder if it's the same urethane as Bones bushings but without the core and a barrel bottom bushing.  if so, they should be great. 

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« Reply #473 on: March 12, 2016, 11:49:08 AM »
Just got back from barrier rituals. Ace's kick ass man. I think I gotta break in the stock bushings a lot more because I could only get that slutty loose turn if I finger tightened the nut, then a couple tiny cranks with a tool to secure the nut from falling off. Any extra cranks and they didn't respond as well.
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« Reply #474 on: March 12, 2016, 06:58:48 PM »
i lost patience trying to break my ace bushings in. Adding a smaller top bushing was all i needed. i had some old crux bushings in a box and they worked really well.

so, Main, do you mind measuring the axle and hangers on those 55s? curious to see if they measure up as advertised unlike the 44s....

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« Reply #475 on: March 12, 2016, 07:17:05 PM »
i lost patience trying to break my ace bushings in. Adding a smaller top bushing was all i needed. i had some old crux bushings in a box and they worked really well.

so, Main, do you mind measuring the axle and hangers on those 55s? curious to see if they measure up as advertised unlike the 44s....

I measured them before I bought them and they were nearly a 9" axle. So I think what SoCal Skate Shop lists them as, 8 7/8 (8.875"), is accurate.

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« Reply #476 on: March 13, 2016, 06:14:01 PM »
I had another session today in them. Rained a shit ton so I had to drive an hour to an indoor park. Still having issues with my kingpin nut almost falling off in order to keep the desired looseness. I know it was only my second session in them but I'm impatient with breaking in trucks. Some of you mentioned using Krux bushings, are they just softer than Ace's stocks therefore resulting in a better turn? Can I just use Krux bushings without changing the pivot cups and still achieve desired looseness?

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« Reply #477 on: March 13, 2016, 08:19:13 PM »
I had another session today in them. Rained a shit ton so I had to drive an hour to an indoor park. Still having issues with my kingpin nut almost falling off in order to keep the desired looseness. I know it was only my second session in them but I'm impatient with breaking in trucks. Some of you mentioned using Krux bushings, are they just softer than Ace's stocks therefore resulting in a better turn? Can I just use Krux bushings without changing the pivot cups and still achieve desired looseness?

The top krux bushing is just a little bit shorter than the ace. I'm not sure about the hardness but they feel pretty similar. I'm also still just using the stock ace pivot cups and their working fine for me.

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« Reply #478 on: March 13, 2016, 09:56:13 PM »
I had another session today in them. Rained a shit ton so I had to drive an hour to an indoor park. Still having issues with my kingpin nut almost falling off in order to keep the desired looseness. I know it was only my second session in them but I'm impatient with breaking in trucks. Some of you mentioned using Krux bushings, are they just softer than Ace's stocks therefore resulting in a better turn? Can I just use Krux bushings without changing the pivot cups and still achieve desired looseness?

The top krux bushing is just a little bit shorter than the ace. I'm not sure about the hardness but they feel pretty similar. I'm also still just using the stock ace pivot cups and their working fine for me.

The ace bushings felt rock hard to me.  Krux aren't exactly soft but they have great rebound and are just all around higher quality than the Ace bushings.   You can skate the ace pivot cups until they blow out but you might as well get some Khiro soft small cups to have on hand

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« Reply #479 on: March 14, 2016, 12:33:04 AM »


The top krux bushing is just a little bit shorter than the ace. I'm not sure about the hardness but they feel pretty similar. I'm also still just using the stock ace pivot cups and their working fine for me.

The ace bushings felt rock hard to me.  Krux aren't exactly soft but they have great rebound and are just all around higher quality than the Ace bushings.   You can skate the ace pivot cups until they blow out but you might as well get some Khiro soft small cups to have on hand

i felt the same way. everyone i knew who's been on Ace for awhile told me that they get softer but they're really almost like 96A and i didn't even realize that Bones Mediums are that durometer. Honestly haven't gone back to bones and have stucked on Indy Standard Conical Red's. everything else is too hard/tight even if i ride on a couple threads of the nut. I wanna try Bones Soft one more time because Bones does have that broken in feel rather than the mushy feel you get with Indy's till they're fully broken in.