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« Reply #540 on: March 23, 2016, 02:09:13 PM »
Procrastinated on ordering some Krux downlow kingpins, and now they seem to be sold out everywhere I check. Anybody have a link? Much appreciated if so.
EDIT. 35th had some, but shipping was about $6.

I was gonna link to NHS directly and then SoCal Skate Shop but both are sold out. $6 ain't the end of the world though, if you don't wanna wait I'd just go with that option.

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« Reply #541 on: March 24, 2016, 08:08:26 PM »
This thread needs more photos. 151, 159, 55 in various stages of use...

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« Reply #542 on: March 24, 2016, 08:42:40 PM »
Nice job man!  I see some axle peeking through on those Thunders

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« Reply #543 on: March 24, 2016, 09:25:50 PM »
Given an hour or two I can ollie the same height riding pretty much any truck (5 decks).

I find that stability/lower trucks is what allows me to ollie better as I have more time to setup and get ready to pop. In a straight line, on even terrain anyway.

I find the 55mm truck group Indys/Ace/Krux take more effort to get ready to ollie (I ride loose and they are carvy).

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« Reply #544 on: March 24, 2016, 10:22:55 PM »
i know its all mental but does anyone skate tranny with 139s? or is it generally 149s and up

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« Reply #545 on: March 24, 2016, 10:28:52 PM »
Don't ride Gullwing. Just. Don't.

Duane Peters, Shaun Ross, Craig Questions, most of Barrier Kult, Kristian Svitak, Mark Lake, and many others skate them.

Why don't you like Gullwing, Xen? Just curious.
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« Reply #546 on: March 24, 2016, 10:50:38 PM »
I just remember pro 3's turning really wide....seemed like the ultimate vert truck....no need to carve.   Skated the shadow in the Hensley days and didn't like them that much....same deal...felt like venture highs....

The ...such and such skate them...argument only holds so much water....ie. Tensor....

It's just preference in turning though, I bet quality wise they are fine...weight is relative....I bet a pro three weighs as much as an Indy. 

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« Reply #547 on: March 25, 2016, 08:39:24 AM »
Nice job man!  I see some axle peeking through on those Thunders

Yeah, the Thunders are just about at axle but not sure when I'll use them again. Going to keep them though. Might be the last ones with a 'usa' stamp on the bottom...?

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« Reply #548 on: March 25, 2016, 10:27:17 AM »


Ace mag places, new reinforced hangers (thanks BMC), Krux pins/bushings.

Picked up some JB weld steel stick (it's an epoxy putty, slice a bit off, squish it around until the colors are mixed then squish it in the cracks, works just like I expected (didn't want the goopy epoxy all over the place). Stuffs hard as a rock and keeps the nut from spinning or falling out of place if I need to loosen/swap bushings or whatever.
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« Reply #549 on: March 25, 2016, 03:04:24 PM »
anybody know the durometer of the stock thunder bushings? need to order some new ones due to cold winter and a non existing heating unit in our indoor park!

thanks....and sorry for throwing in random questions but did not want to create a new thread!

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« Reply #550 on: March 25, 2016, 03:09:25 PM »
anybody know the durometer of the stock thunder bushings? need to order some new ones due to cold winter and a non existing heating unit in our indoor park!

thanks....and sorry for throwing in random questions but did not want to create a new thread!
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« Reply #551 on: March 25, 2016, 03:23:27 PM »
anybody know the durometer of the stock thunder bushings? need to order some new ones due to cold winter and a non existing heating unit in our indoor park!

thanks....and sorry for throwing in random questions but did not want to create a new thread!
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stanley, thank you for the quick reply!

i really could not skate with stock bushings for the last 3- 5 years, but one day i had a maybe defective set of bones mediums that were unusually hard, so i had to try the thunder stocks again and i never went back. i skate them flush with both washers maybe a lil more lose if it is colder over time. now after winter is pretty much over hopefully i found myself riding rockhard bushings without ever tightening my trucks during winter wich is crazy. i lost all my fliptricks being stuck at the indoor park and the trucks/ bushings not doing what i am used to fucked with my head heavy.

but now i flipped through a couple pages of this thread and i do not feel alone anymore!

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« Reply #552 on: March 26, 2016, 08:12:27 AM »
anybody know the durometer of the stock thunder bushings? need to order some new ones due to cold winter and a non existing heating unit in our indoor park!

thanks....and sorry for throwing in random questions but did not want to create a new thread!
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Except the white ones feel waaaaay softer for some reason!

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« Reply #553 on: March 26, 2016, 08:21:01 AM »
Just to nerd out on it, who manufactures certain bushings?, I bet Thunder and Indy aftermarkets are made by the same and perhaps Krux is the same too?, never seen Krux but the Thunder and Indy ones look/feel very similar to me.

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« Reply #554 on: March 26, 2016, 04:47:23 PM »
Just to nerd out on it, who manufactures certain bushings?, I bet Thunder and Indy aftermarkets are made by the same and perhaps Krux is the same too?, never seen Krux but the Thunder and Indy ones look/feel very similar to me.

Krux and Indy aftermarkets are the same.  Thunder stock and aftermarket are both different.  you can tell this because Indy aftermarket/krux are cnc precision cut whereas all thunder (and stock indy) are molded

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« Reply #555 on: March 26, 2016, 07:22:36 PM »
aftermarket/krux are cnc precision cut whereas all thunder (and stock indy) are molded

What exactly does this mean? Are stock bushings on most trucks shitty because they use a low quality urethane?

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« Reply #556 on: March 26, 2016, 09:35:36 PM »
I'm riding 129s with blue Indy barrels. I put mini logo pivot cups in these, they're garbage. Quiet, but still garbage.
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« Reply #557 on: March 26, 2016, 10:59:32 PM »
aftermarket/krux are cnc precision cut whereas all thunder (and stock indy) are molded

What exactly does this mean? Are stock bushings on most trucks shitty because they use a low quality urethane?

That is why most stock bushings suck.  The urethane is lower quality and has poor rebound.  Regarding the cut differences, look at the bottoms of stock indy or thunder bushings and then look at the stock krux or aftermarket indy.  you'll see the circles where they quality bushings were CNC cut versus a sloppy mold

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« Reply #558 on: March 27, 2016, 01:59:42 AM »
i just got done with some back and forth emailing with nhs and now i'm sending in my broken indy hollows for new ones, which i'm hyped on since so far they have been my favorite trucks so far, they just make flipping the board easier and are at just the right height. but for now i'll go back to some thunders i got, might try the thunder hollow lights one of these days.

Part of the reason why I've never messed with hollow anything. I also feel like they'd feel...well....hollow. Like a dead weight instead of a solid one, even if it's heavy I don't care. I need life in my trucks! Hope those replacements work out for ya though.
it just makes me think i can flip my board better, and i like the lower ride height and it makes the board feel more even, but either way i sent it in a few days ago so i'll see how this pans out, the regular thunders in the mean time is working out pretty good though.

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« Reply #559 on: March 27, 2016, 08:49:25 AM »
aftermarket/krux are cnc precision cut whereas all thunder (and stock indy) are molded

What exactly does this mean? Are stock bushings on most trucks shitty because they use a low quality urethane?

That is why most stock bushings suck.  The urethane is lower quality and has poor rebound.  Regarding the cut differences, look at the bottoms of stock indy or thunder bushings and then look at the stock krux or aftermarket indy.  you'll see the circles where they quality bushings were CNC cut versus a sloppy mold
ahh good observatition, I did notice that my aftermarket Thunders are molded also, but seem to much higher quality urethane than the clear/jelly looking stock ones, seen some reeeeeeal sloppy bushings in Thunders at shops before. Bones are CNC cut too correct? Will CNC always be better than molded, my Thunder aftermarkets seem to ride pretty much the same as my aftermarket Indy's of the same Duro.
Are all bushings made in China? I can't see any "made in" info on my old packaging

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« Reply #560 on: March 27, 2016, 09:20:29 AM »
That is why most stock bushings suck.  The urethane is lower quality and has poor rebound.
I gotta disagree with this. I've been skating stock Thunder bushings for about a year an a half, and they're perfect.
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« Reply #561 on: March 27, 2016, 09:31:37 PM »
That is why most stock bushings suck.  The urethane is lower quality and has poor rebound.
I gotta disagree with this. I've been skating stock Thunder bushings for about a year an a half, and they're perfect.

You're right, the Thunder stock white bushings are great.  They're the only thing I skate in my thunders now that I've learned how to properly break in bushings.  The stock thunder clear yellow ones are pretty terrible though

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« Reply #562 on: March 28, 2016, 12:01:17 AM »
That is why most stock bushings suck.  The urethane is lower quality and has poor rebound.
I gotta disagree with this. I've been skating stock Thunder bushings for about a year an a half, and they're perfect.

You're right, the Thunder stock white bushings are great.  They're the only thing I skate in my thunders now that I've learned how to properly break in bushings.  The stock thunder clear yellow ones are pretty terrible though

yeah i've wrote on here before that i was a big fan of bones mediums in thunders. last year something made me get the rebuild kit (95 duro) and i feel in love.. tried the yellowish/clear ones and they were TOO soft for me. i dig the aftermarket ones.. never tried the white ones
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« Reply #563 on: March 28, 2016, 12:55:43 AM »
That is why most stock bushings suck.  The urethane is lower quality and has poor rebound.
I gotta disagree with this. I've been skating stock Thunder bushings for about a year an a half, and they're perfect.

You're right, the Thunder stock white bushings are great.  They're the only thing I skate in my thunders now that I've learned how to properly break in bushings.  The stock thunder clear yellow ones are pretty terrible though

Is there a certain method to breaking them in better? I've always just installed them and let it ride. 

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« Reply #564 on: March 28, 2016, 04:34:12 AM »
That is why most stock bushings suck.  The urethane is lower quality and has poor rebound.
I gotta disagree with this. I've been skating stock Thunder bushings for about a year an a half, and they're perfect.

You're right, the Thunder stock white bushings are great.  They're the only thing I skate in my thunders now that I've learned how to properly break in bushings.  The stock thunder clear yellow ones are pretty terrible though

Is there a certain method to breaking them in better? I've always just installed them and let it ride. 

Basically force yourself to skate them really loose for 2-3 days mostly cruising/carving around and then tighten them to your preferred tightness. 

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« Reply #565 on: March 28, 2016, 05:11:21 AM »
Jason Adams said doing slappies is a good way to break in new trucks.

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« Reply #566 on: March 28, 2016, 01:10:23 PM »
That is why most stock bushings suck.  The urethane is lower quality and has poor rebound.
I gotta disagree with this. I've been skating stock Thunder bushings for about a year an a half, and they're perfect.

You're right, the Thunder stock white bushings are great.  They're the only thing I skate in my thunders now that I've learned how to properly break in bushings.  The stock thunder clear yellow ones are pretty terrible though
I don't remember where I read it (might have actually been Reed/Lenny, can't remember though) but they said that all of the stock thunder bushings are the same duro. I've only ridden the yellowish clear ones, and some aftermarket ones, but if all the stocks are the same duro, shouldn't they all feel the same? I can't imagine they would purposefully make some stock ones better than others. Would the dye (or whatever they use to change the color) have anything to do with it?
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« Reply #567 on: March 28, 2016, 01:24:47 PM »
That is why most stock bushings suck.  The urethane is lower quality and has poor rebound.
I gotta disagree with this. I've been skating stock Thunder bushings for about a year an a half, and they're perfect.

You're right, the Thunder stock white bushings are great.  They're the only thing I skate in my thunders now that I've learned how to properly break in bushings.  The stock thunder clear yellow ones are pretty terrible though
I don't remember where I read it (might have actually been Reed/Lenny, can't remember though) but they said that all of the stock thunder bushings are the same duro. I've only ridden the yellowish clear ones, and some aftermarket ones, but if all the stocks are the same duro, shouldn't they all feel the same? I can't imagine they would purposefully make some stock ones better than others. Would the dye (or whatever they use to change the color) have anything to do with it?

The white ones and the clear yellow ones might be the same duro (duro measurements for both bushings and wheels are notoriously inaccurate in skateboarding) but the yellow bushings are without a doubt more mushy and have less rebound than the white ones.  No idea if that has anything to do with clear vs solid colored urethane or what.

Ripped laces noted the same thing http://www.rippedlaces.com/2014/04/yes-the-new-thunder-149ii-is-different-better/

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #568 on: March 29, 2016, 06:39:43 AM »
Anyone have any experience with Indy's aftermarket pivot cups and can compare them to Khiro's?
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« Reply #569 on: March 29, 2016, 08:31:20 AM »
Anyone have any experience with Indy's aftermarket pivot cups and can compare them to Khiro's?

If you have stage 11's the aftermarket pivot cups are exactly the same as stock.  They're a hard plastic whereas Khiro are urethane.  Khiro's are higher quality but they don't fit 100% correctly and push the hanger up 1-2mm so I don't use them in Indy's.  Plenty of people do and love them though