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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #630 on: April 12, 2016, 11:34:57 PM »
A couple of weeks ago I got the grey AVE 139s because the shop was out of raws for whatever reason. They were $10 more, but whatever. Before I set them up I noticed the baseplate on one wasn't flat and fucking wobbled. Contacted nhs and sent it in. Shipping and everything, these are now $65 Indys I didn't really want in the first place. Still haven't gotten a replacement back either, but I've been hurt so whatever.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #631 on: April 13, 2016, 07:25:00 AM »
Only the 44/55/66s were improved.

So the 33s are okay then? ???

My guess is the smaller sizes were less prone to bending. so the 33s are probably just fine.

Also note the updated hangers have more metal around the axle, so they should last longer. Only downside is, they might be heavier than the originals. I was one of those people who held off Ace for a long time but couldn't resist after the redesign. I've been using the 44s and 55s, best turning trucks I've ever owned- stock bottom bushings, krux top.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #632 on: April 13, 2016, 07:26:01 AM »
A couple of weeks ago I got the grey AVE 139s because the shop was out of raws for whatever reason. They were $10 more, but whatever. Before I set them up I noticed the baseplate on one wasn't flat and fucking wobbled. Contacted nhs and sent it in. Shipping and everything, these are now $65 Indys I didn't really want in the first place. Still haven't gotten a replacement back either, but I've been hurt so whatever.

curious but do they have 'usa' stamped on the underside of the baseplate?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #633 on: April 13, 2016, 08:20:19 AM »
No. The bar code sticker says "mfg in USA from US & imported parts." It's a cast baseplate so I'm sure it's still poured at Ermico. In hindsight I probably should have just gone back to the shop as soon as I noticed, but didn't want to deal with driving 40 miles round trip again.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #634 on: April 13, 2016, 11:35:25 AM »
Ive tried out some of the new Mini logo bushings, I didn't like the way the hard ones felt, my turns didnt feel too smooth. I switched to new mediums and they are great. Right now I've got the mediums without washers on my trucks and it's working out pretty well.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #635 on: April 13, 2016, 06:55:09 PM »
Indy 149s with stock bushings.

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« Reply #636 on: April 14, 2016, 05:27:36 PM »
SoCal has the "stage 2" redesigns for 44, 55, 66. They do not have any of the "stage 1's" in those sizes, so you're fine...you don't have to ask before you order. Get the Krux bushings for sure, Khiro pivot cups are optional if you wanna have some extra ones for backup. Mine are still fine but I'll get around to ordering some Khiro's eventually.

Lastly, I'm not saying what Joey said is true, just repeating what he said.

I know, I read that quote too, it just doesn't make any sense. You don't reinforce something if you don't need too, axles were bending so they reinforced the hanger with more metal (just like every other truck out there does....except for 215s it seems).

Where is the quote talking about this?

My thunders are bent so badly, I don't want to skate them anymore. Hopefully the Ace redesign is the best option.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #637 on: April 15, 2016, 09:24:32 AM »
SoCal has the "stage 2" redesigns for 44, 55, 66. They do not have any of the "stage 1's" in those sizes, so you're fine...you don't have to ask before you order. Get the Krux bushings for sure, Khiro pivot cups are optional if you wanna have some extra ones for backup. Mine are still fine but I'll get around to ordering some Khiro's eventually.

Lastly, I'm not saying what Joey said is true, just repeating what he said.

I know, I read that quote too, it just doesn't make any sense. You don't reinforce something if you don't need too, axles were bending so they reinforced the hanger with more metal (just like every other truck out there does....except for 215s it seems).

Where is the quote talking about this?

My thunders are bent so badly, I don't want to skate them anymore. Hopefully the Ace redesign is the best option.

Someone on one of Ace's instagram posts asked if he fixed the bending issue and he responded that it was a production issue, not a design flaw. So whether it was or not, the issue seems to be fixed either way.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #638 on: April 15, 2016, 02:57:32 PM »
SoCal has the "stage 2" redesigns for 44, 55, 66. They do not have any of the "stage 1's" in those sizes, so you're fine...you don't have to ask before you order. Get the Krux bushings for sure, Khiro pivot cups are optional if you wanna have some extra ones for backup. Mine are still fine but I'll get around to ordering some Khiro's eventually.

Lastly, I'm not saying what Joey said is true, just repeating what he said.

I know, I read that quote too, it just doesn't make any sense. You don't reinforce something if you don't need too, axles were bending so they reinforced the hanger with more metal (just like every other truck out there does....except for 215s it seems).

Where is the quote talking about this?

My thunders are bent so badly, I don't want to skate them anymore. Hopefully the Ace redesign is the best option.

Someone on one of Ace's instagram posts asked if he fixed the bending issue and he responded that it was a production issue, not a design flaw. So whether it was or not, the issue seems to be fixed either way.

Good to know, hopefully it's not bullshit. I'll get Aces next time.
« Last Edit: April 15, 2016, 03:01:24 PM by Jake From State Farm »

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #639 on: April 16, 2016, 10:35:29 AM »
I put the bushings from the 90a Thunder Rebuilt Kit into my aces, and I'm in love. I riding it without the bottom bushings so there's a little wobble, and my god do they turn fast. They're still really stable even though there's the wobble, so turning is super sharp and fast but going fast feels just fine.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #640 on: April 18, 2016, 10:47:26 AM »
Not sure if the right place to ask. Should I get Krux K4's or regular Thunder polished trucks?

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« Reply #641 on: April 18, 2016, 11:55:47 AM »
Not sure if the right place to ask. Should I get Krux K4's or regular Thunder polished trucks?

By regular thunders do you mean the team plates (no hollow shmallow stuff?)

Krux's will be lighter and turn like Indys as well as be as tall as Indys 55mm.

Thunders will lower and are twitchier.

What terrain do you skate?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #642 on: April 18, 2016, 01:06:14 PM »
I put the bushings from the 90a Thunder Rebuilt Kit into my aces, and I'm in love. I riding it without the bottom bushings so there's a little wobble, and my god do they turn fast. They're still really stable even though there's the wobble, so turning is super sharp and fast but going fast feels just fine.

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« Reply #643 on: April 18, 2016, 10:21:15 PM »
Not sure if the right place to ask. Should I get Krux K4's or regular Thunder polished trucks?

By regular thunders do you mean the team plates (no hollow shmallow stuff?)

Krux's will be lighter and turn like Indys as well as be as tall as Indys 55mm.

Thunders will lower and are twitchier.

What terrain do you skate?
I've been skating a lot of flatground with Indys and i want to try something else. By twitchy do you mean responsive?

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« Reply #644 on: April 19, 2016, 09:02:15 AM »
Quicker sharper turn with Thunders, not as 'deep'' as Indy. Thunder could better for flat ground than Indy depending on your taste. They are stable until you want them to turn but won't turn as much, if that makes sense.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #645 on: April 20, 2016, 12:33:20 PM »
Bought some Ace 55's from skatewarehouse and it looks like I got one truck with the updated hanger (without the taper) and one older hanger (with the taper)

I sent the truck with the taper back for an exchange.  super weird though


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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #646 on: April 20, 2016, 12:44:25 PM »
Bought some Ace 55's from skatewarehouse and it looks like I got one truck with the updated hanger (without the taper) and one older hanger (with the taper)

I sent the truck with the taper back for an exchange.  super weird though



BIG box of ACE 55s, dude reaches in and grabs two, packages them up. Happened to me during the great Thunder 149 switchover, got an old and new design.

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« Reply #647 on: April 20, 2016, 12:55:19 PM »
good chance to compare them i suppose...

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #648 on: April 20, 2016, 08:20:56 PM »
Bought some Ace 55's from skatewarehouse and it looks like I got one truck with the updated hanger (without the taper) and one older hanger (with the taper)

I sent the truck with the taper back for an exchange.  super weird though



BIG box of ACE 55s, dude reaches in and grabs two, packages them up. Happened to me during the great Thunder 149 switchover, got an old and new design.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #649 on: April 20, 2016, 08:32:56 PM »
^Eh to be fair even though it could be considered Ace's "Stage II" it was not advertised like Indy does with all their stages or like Thunder with their 149's.

If a merchant doesn't get the memo, the employees are just packing orders as quickly as possible so they're not going to be looking for anything besides making sure the set is the same size.


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« Reply #650 on: April 20, 2016, 09:22:11 PM »
^Eh to be fair even though it could be considered Ace's "Stage II" it was not advertised like Indy does with all their stages or like Thunder with their 149's.

If a merchant doesn't get the memo, the employees are just packing orders as quickly as possible so they're not going to be looking for anything besides making sure the set is the same size.



yup, simple mistake and skatewarehouse is always great so I don't fault them.  I literally order from them twice a month. 


I can wait a couple extra days, it's not like I have a shortage of trucks  :D

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #651 on: April 21, 2016, 11:07:17 AM »
Bought some Ace 55's from skatewarehouse and it looks like I got one truck with the updated hanger (without the taper) and one older hanger (with the taper)

I sent the truck with the taper back for an exchange.  super weird though



BMCsteve do you know if the taper on the stage 1's causes the wheel to be pushed more outwards than the stage 2's?  Or is it that the stage 2's  have just a longer hanger?

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« Reply #652 on: April 21, 2016, 11:15:28 AM »
Bought some Ace 55's from skatewarehouse and it looks like I got one truck with the updated hanger (without the taper) and one older hanger (with the taper)

I sent the truck with the taper back for an exchange.  super weird though



BMCsteve do you know if the taper on the stage 1's causes the wheel to be pushed more outwards than the stage 2's?  Or is it that the stage 2's  have just a longer hanger?

The stage 1's are meant to be used with one washer on the outside bearing.  The stage 2's are meant to be used with two washers (one on each side) which makes them equal.  I know a lot of people skating Ace's would put the washer on the inside of Stage 1's as well to make them closer to an 8.5 truck

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« Reply #653 on: April 21, 2016, 12:12:30 PM »
i've been using no washers on the inside of the 55s as there is still enough taper to not rub against the bearing shields. i use the two washers on the outside to limit thread exposure...

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« Reply #654 on: April 21, 2016, 12:17:17 PM »
i've been using no washers on the inside of the 55s as there is still enough taper to not rub against the bearing shields. i use the two washers on the outside to limit thread exposure...

That's the whole pint of the taper! You're rocking them as intended. Depending on the wheel I might still throw one or two on the inside (With skinnier wheels I've had to put three or four deep to limit nut exposure....

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« Reply #655 on: April 21, 2016, 02:35:22 PM »
Never actually knew that about the Stage 1's, I always put one inside and out like any other truck. I can't decide whether I like the look of the old design or the new one. Both are very nice...

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« Reply #656 on: April 22, 2016, 11:12:19 PM »
I recall 'speed rings' which were concave to create the same bevel effect......

You guys so much frankentrucking?  Like a gullwing hanger on a venture baseplate? 

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #657 on: April 24, 2016, 11:12:14 AM »
Anyone try Indy's aftermarket bushings in Aces? If so, cylinder or conical, and standard or low?

Bones mediums? Thunder bushings?

Just trying to see if there's other good ones besides Krux specifically for Ace.

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« Reply #658 on: April 24, 2016, 11:38:28 AM »
Anyone try Indy's aftermarket bushings in Aces? If so, cylinder or conical, and standard or low?

Bones mediums? Thunder bushings?

Just trying to see if there's other good ones besides Krux specifically for Ace.

Indy's work but you'll get 'the rattle.' i think the blues are the equivalent duro to krux. i'd personally stick with the cylinders to limit wheel bite. you can def use harder bushings in ace than you would in other trucks...

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« Reply #659 on: April 24, 2016, 11:40:18 AM »
it would be great if ace made some softer bushings, the same size and shape as their stock ones...