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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #720 on: May 19, 2016, 05:32:14 PM »
Bones are still relevant and their STF's are great, but it seems like the old school dudes stick with them. Most are riding F4's or some other company. I prefer F4 classics as they can handle anything besides a slippery indoor park but fuck those anyways.

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« Reply #721 on: May 20, 2016, 12:30:56 AM »
Ahaha right! Fuck indoor parks, they're only good for a desperate session on a rainy day and if you don't have classic regular 99a or softer wheels the sessions gonna take some getting use to.

I think the playing ground is gonna level out these next few weeks where there's a majority riding stf's and formula fours rather than just formula fours taking over the game, I feel everyone's gonna start feeling the hype on bones again and some will go back to that feel if they liked it. Idk though bones stf's were good before formula fours but tried them again and noticed how they stick At times and felt so plastic and hard.

Formula fours are just so reliable, those 99a just have it all
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #722 on: May 20, 2016, 08:45:01 AM »
Yup yup...anyway back to trucks. Anyone prefer the old Ace design over the new one? Just curious...

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« Reply #723 on: May 20, 2016, 09:31:50 AM »
Yup yup...anyway back to trucks. Anyone prefer the old Ace design over the new one? Just curious...

Not sure if there would be anything to prefer on the old Ace design.  Same geometry, height, materials, etc.  The only advantage the old design could have would be they're a bit lighter but that's only because they lacked aluminum in the structural areas to prevent them from bending

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« Reply #724 on: May 20, 2016, 08:14:18 PM »
stepped on some aces that were my friends, and damn those were wiggly. they were so loose it was scary and the nut was flush on the kingpin. i already knew they were too loose for my skating. but idk kinda interested in the ACE 03 lows
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« Reply #725 on: May 22, 2016, 01:20:10 AM »
Anybody else weird and enjoy Aces and Thunders even though they are sooo much different. I'm always torn between which one's I want to have on my set-up.

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« Reply #726 on: May 23, 2016, 08:01:54 AM »
Skating Avenue trucks now, but I used to skate Indy axles on Venture baseplates. Works better than you think.

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« Reply #727 on: May 23, 2016, 04:56:27 PM »
Skating Avenue trucks now, but I used to skate Indy axles on Venture baseplates. Works better than you think.
Avenue as in the suspension trucks?
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« Reply #728 on: May 23, 2016, 06:30:42 PM »
Anybody else weird and enjoy Aces and Thunders even though they are sooo much different. I'm always torn between which one's I want to have on my set-up.

That would be me.

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« Reply #729 on: May 23, 2016, 07:22:21 PM »
I said fuck it and put Bones Mediums in my Ace's using no bottom washer while using the new top washer they include. I know it's putting more strain on my pivot but I don't even care anymore haha. Got them wobbly but not to the point where the pivot point slides out from the cup, more of a "safer" wobble if that makes any sense.

I originally tried them using the bottom washer but it looks retarded with Bones and also wasn't any better of a turn than the stock bushings, so that's why I decided to do without. The stock pivot cups are so god damn squeaky I think I'm finally caving in and ordering some Khiro's soon.

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« Reply #730 on: May 24, 2016, 11:17:20 PM »
Anybody else weird and enjoy Aces and Thunders even though they are sooo much different. I'm always torn between which one's I want to have on my set-up.

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« Reply #731 on: May 25, 2016, 12:32:34 AM »
Anybody else weird and enjoy Aces and Thunders even though they are sooo much different. I'm always torn between which one's I want to have on my set-up.

That would be me.

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« Reply #732 on: May 25, 2016, 02:29:19 AM »
I've been riding Indy's with bones bushing (medium) and I really like the feeling.
Then I saw all these good reviews about Ace, so I ordered a pair of 44's.

I've read somewhere that the stock bushing are pretty loose (compared to Indys ?).
Do you think I can keep the stock bushings, or should I put some bones ?
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« Reply #733 on: May 25, 2016, 04:39:57 AM »
I've been riding Indy's with bones bushing (medium) and I really like the feeling.
Then I saw all these good reviews about Ace, so I ordered a pair of 44's.

I've read somewhere that the stock bushing are pretty loose (compared to Indys ?).
Do you think I can keep the stock bushings, or should I put some bones ?

The stock bushings are fine if you like riding a normal level of loose trucks. But for me, I wanted even more of a sharp turn so I put in Bones mediums with no bottom washer and I get a nice wobble from them. Other's have said Krux bushings are good so those would be another good option.

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« Reply #734 on: May 25, 2016, 09:24:54 AM »
anyone know the duro on the stock ace bushings?

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« Reply #735 on: May 25, 2016, 10:00:51 AM »
anyone know the duro on the stock ace bushings?

They've gotta be around a 96 bottom, 94 top.

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« Reply #736 on: May 25, 2016, 01:53:50 PM »
for those guys who went from indys to thunders, im thinking about changing it up and im wondering what to expect. thinking just getting a set of standard thunder 149s or ace ( don't think i ride em loose enough to justify ace though)
been on indys for about a decade, last brands before that were fury and phantom hahaha.

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« Reply #737 on: May 25, 2016, 09:04:50 PM »
for those guys who went from indys to thunders, im thinking about changing it up and im wondering what to expect. thinking just getting a set of standard thunder 149s or ace ( don't think i ride em loose enough to justify ace though)
been on indys for about a decade, last brands before that were fury and phantom hahaha.

I've skated Indys for about ten years, too. I've never tried Thunders, so I'm thinking of giving them a go, too. I'd also like to know if anyone made the switch and stayed with Thunders. I wouldn't mind something a little lower.

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« Reply #738 on: May 25, 2016, 09:40:49 PM »
one thing i noticed between the two, is the timing on your pop is different between thunder and indy. not better or worse but each truck will suit different people differently. its not just a height thing but also relates to the position of the  kingpin and hangars, as well as the angles and geometry. as for the turn its pretty easy to switch between the two but as a general rule, i'd say if you like yr indys loose go with ace, if you ride them med or tighter go with thunder. thunders have a real responsive, snappy quick turn but its not very deep. thunders are also lighter if you care about that...

in saying all that, contrary to what some people like to think, thunders can be ridden loose and work well on round wall also once you dial them in.

personally, if i was skating mostly technical street shit or back and fore half pipe, i'd def go with thunders.
 round wall transition or slappy style loose carving street shit = ace. i'm old and love small tight fucked up trannies, carve grinds and slappies, so mostly skate ace these days.

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« Reply #739 on: May 26, 2016, 06:54:54 AM »
for those guys who went from indys to thunders, im thinking about changing it up and im wondering what to expect. thinking just getting a set of standard thunder 149s or ace ( don't think i ride em loose enough to justify ace though)
been on indys for about a decade, last brands before that were fury and phantom hahaha.

I've skated Indys for about ten years, too. I've never tried Thunders, so I'm thinking of giving them a go, too. I'd also like to know if anyone made the switch and stayed with Thunders. I wouldn't mind something a little lower.

I've switched back and forth pretty regularly over the years... I'll tell you a secret... there's really not much of a difference.  Yes, it's fun to nerd out and talk about how Indy is a slower/fuller turn and Thunder is a more responsive turn.  But really... when you're just skating, the difference is very minimal.  I'm actually switching from Indy back to Thunder and intend to stay for the life of the trucks, at least.   
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #740 on: May 26, 2016, 07:37:15 AM »
Indys feel higher....turn slower but the turning radius is tighter.....more carvey......


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« Reply #741 on: May 26, 2016, 08:53:55 AM »
for those guys who went from indys to thunders, im thinking about changing it up and im wondering what to expect. thinking just getting a set of standard thunder 149s or ace ( don't think i ride em loose enough to justify ace though)
been on indys for about a decade, last brands before that were fury and phantom hahaha.

I've skated Indys for about ten years, too. I've never tried Thunders, so I'm thinking of giving them a go, too. I'd also like to know if anyone made the switch and stayed with Thunders. I wouldn't mind something a little lower.

I've switched back and forth pretty regularly over the years... I'll tell you a secret... there's really not much of a difference.  Yes, it's fun to nerd out and talk about how Indy is a slower/fuller turn and Thunder is a more responsive turn.  But really... when you're just skating, the difference is very minimal.  I'm actually switching from Indy back to Thunder and intend to stay for the life of the trucks, at least.   

I agree with Art here.  There really isnt that much of a difference between most trucks.  I think a lot of it comes down to height and bushings.  If you take two different trucks that are the exact same height with the same bushings I bet most people would be hard pressed to tell which is which

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #742 on: May 27, 2016, 03:43:37 AM »
Thanks guys.

I'm not going to rush out and buy some Thunders now. Instead I'll skate these Indys until they're done, so I'll have them for another year or two. I've got way too many sets of aftermarket Indy bushings to switch brands (I haven't had to use any of the spares because the bushings are that good, I was expecting them to be a little more durable than Bones.) and I've got another set of spare Indys. I might try swap the new set for some Thunders or Aces later down the line.

Do Thunders need aftermarket bushings? If so, which ones (other than Bones)?

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« Reply #743 on: May 27, 2016, 05:37:28 AM »

Do Thunders need aftermarket bushings? If so, which ones (other than Bones)?

Bushings are all preference.  I drove myself insane testing different bushings in Thunders.  My recommendation would be to properly break in the stock white bushings (the clear yellow ones are crap) and if they are too soft after a week of skating, try some of the aftermarket thunder bushings.  Bones will work but they don't really fit correctly


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« Reply #744 on: May 27, 2016, 07:56:58 AM »

Do Thunders need aftermarket bushings? If so, which ones (other than Bones)?
Bushings are all preference.  I drove myself insane testing different bushings in Thunders.  My recommendation would be to properly break in the stock white bushings (the clear yellow ones are crap) and if they are too soft after a week of skating, try some of the aftermarket thunder bushings.  Bones will work but they don't really fit correctly

Agreed Steve. It's all personal preference. One part vanity, one part OCD. No standard rules to gear. I've been skating Khiro conical bushings with the metal inserts for the last 2 years in my Thunders. I swear by them. I had a buddy give me a set a few years back and haven't switched back since. Same principle as Bones bushings just a slightly different build. I've also experimented with the 'low profile' Khiro conicals without the inserts. I just use the smaller top washer on both the top AND the bottom.

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« Reply #745 on: May 27, 2016, 09:25:01 AM »
Im not really nuts about bushings........yet.

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« Reply #746 on: May 27, 2016, 10:22:00 AM »

Do Thunders need aftermarket bushings? If so, which ones (other than Bones)?

Bushings are all preference.  I drove myself insane testing different bushings in Thunders.  My recommendation would be to properly break in the stock white bushings (the clear yellow ones are crap) and if they are too soft after a week of skating, try some of the aftermarket thunder bushings.  Bones will work but they don't really fit correctly



The yellow ones aren't that bad, maybe cause I just want to stay classic and nostalgic since my first pair of thunder 147 were the raw with yellow bushings and they did me so much justice. It's like the jenkem guys said though, you just gotta dial them in to that sweet spot. Took me a few tries but I finally got the it to the sweet spot on the og yellow thunder bushings.
But no doubt the white ones are way better. They rebound so well and respond so smooth, you can make them loose or tight and they still have so much stability and response. I guess that's why Malto always did it and got koston on the program
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« Reply #747 on: May 27, 2016, 11:28:21 AM »
How are the Krux K4 8.25" compared to Indy 149 Stage 11s with Bones hard bushings?

I was thinking of getting another pair of trucks possibly to use for a "cruiser", as my OJs Keyframes are like 5 times faster than harder wheels over here with crummy terrain. I was thinking of trying out the Ace 44s, but they don't seem to be very widely available here and I could get the Krux for 49 from a local shop, compared to the Aces for around 70 shipped.

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« Reply #748 on: May 27, 2016, 12:20:43 PM »
How are the Krux K4 8.25" compared to Indy 149 Stage 11s with Bones hard bushings?

I was thinking of getting another pair of trucks possibly to use for a "cruiser", as my OJs Keyframes are like 5 times faster than harder wheels over here with crummy terrain. I was thinking of trying out the Ace 44s, but they don't seem to be very widely available here and I could get the Krux for 49� from a local shop, compared to the Aces for around 70� shipped.

Never had Indy 149's but the 8.25 krux are so good, stable yet not so hefty. I've had 139 with bones hards and they still turn some just really stable turn cause you know, hards

Sorry if my input isn't much help but truthfully I say go with the krux 8.25. They're much lighter and have that stable wide truck feel and he stock bushings are so nice.

I hopped on my friends board win Indy 149 and they're stable Forsure but so heavy, you can feel it in the turn too how heavy they are when they veer
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« Reply #749 on: May 27, 2016, 12:31:50 PM »
How are the Krux K4 8.25" compared to Indy 149 Stage 11s with Bones hard bushings?

I was thinking of getting another pair of trucks possibly to use for a "cruiser", as my OJs Keyframes are like 5 times faster than harder wheels over here with crummy terrain. I was thinking of trying out the Ace 44s, but they don't seem to be very widely available here and I could get the Krux for 49� from a local shop, compared to the Aces for around 70� shipped.

Never had Indy 149's but the 8.25 krux are so good, stable yet not so hefty. I've had 139 with bones hards and they still turn some just really stable turn cause you know, hards

Sorry if my input isn't much help but truthfully I say go with the krux 8.25. They're much lighter and have that stable wide truck feel and he stock bushings are so nice.

I hopped on my friends board win Indy 149 and they're stable Forsure but so heavy, you can feel it in the turn too how heavy they are when they veer

Thanks man. Actually the Bones hards feel like they've gone soft on me. Had them in for a while and I've cranked down the nut a half turn like 4 times or something from what it was in the beginning. I guess I'm heaving than most skaters though at 85 kg (188 pounds). Didn't like the stock Indy bushings at all. Had to crank them down a lot and then it was just still, but still got wheelbite, also no proper rebound anymore.

Kinda wondering how the Krux will be with the stock bushings, cuz I'm heavier than the average lad. Dunno what replacement bushings work well with Krux.