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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #960 on: July 31, 2016, 06:35:02 PM »
The wheel base and the geometry of the ventures make it so the tail hits quicker. They're a street truck, that design is supposed to give you quicker ollies and theoretically more pop.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #961 on: July 31, 2016, 07:00:28 PM »
The wheel base and the geometry of the ventures make it so the tail hits quicker. They're a street truck, that design is supposed to give you quicker ollies and theoretically more pop.

Thunders are the ones that REALLY push out the wheelbase.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #962 on: July 31, 2016, 11:33:25 PM »
oh shit i didnt even know that indy made a hollow low truck, that might work out better then the hi's i got right now, the indy lows are lower than the thunder hi's with the forged baseplate right?

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« Reply #963 on: July 31, 2016, 11:57:04 PM »
How low are you wanting? I'm riding forged hollow 149s right now and they're 53.5, where standards are 55. Lows are 48.something.
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« Reply #964 on: August 01, 2016, 03:33:29 AM »
oh shit i didnt even know that indy made a hollow low truck, that might work out better then the hi's i got right now, the indy lows are lower than the thunder hi's with the forged baseplate right?

no I don't think, I think thunder hi standards are 49mm tall and forged plates make them 47.5mm so Indy lows would be 1mm higher or about the same height basically with Indy lows
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« Reply #965 on: August 02, 2016, 12:18:11 PM »
I hope this is the right thread for this question, I recently switched from thunder 147 low (with thunder medium)  bushings, to venture low with bones medium bushings. My question is that I rode thunders medium in terms of tightness, and they were very rigid , felt squeaky at times.  The ventures are very responsive, almost too responsive. Is this common with ventures or with bones medium bushings?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #966 on: August 02, 2016, 01:38:48 PM »
it's probably the bushings.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #967 on: August 02, 2016, 01:58:17 PM »
I know people are always bumming on bones meds in Thunders...but I like it.  also, some photo of lucas' board for his new shoe campaign showed he uses em in his thunders too.  so there. 

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #968 on: August 02, 2016, 02:35:09 PM »
The wheel base and the geometry of the ventures make it so the tail hits quicker. They're a street truck, that design is supposed to give you quicker ollies and theoretically more pop.

I'm not sure about quicker but since the leverage point/fulcrum  is farther out towards the tail, the amount of force required to snap the tail or nose on the ground is increased. In addition, the angle where the tail hits the ground is steeper, which theoretically leads to a higher Ollie because your nose is higher off the ground.

The turning geometry is pretty nice, they carve very surf like and sharp if you put weight into it but seem to have a large middle point where they feel super stable, unlike indys which to me feel like they are always kind of turning even when you don't want them to.

They're easily my favorite truck minus the hard to break in bushings, but replacing the top bushing with a bones medium and leaving the stock bottom makes them feel even more surfy.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #969 on: August 06, 2016, 10:27:36 PM »
Any ideas on where I might be able to order some Krux bushings for my Aces? Ive been looking around for a few weeks and haven't seen anything recently.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #970 on: August 06, 2016, 10:43:48 PM »
Any ideas on where I might be able to order some Krux bushings for my Aces? Ive been looking around for a few weeks and haven't seen anything recently.

NHS said 8/15 ish they will be back in stock on their site. This is the only place that has them currently:

http://www.saltypeaks.com/products/31830/Krux-Worlds-Best-Cushions-Bushings-92a.html

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #971 on: August 08, 2016, 12:13:41 AM »
I'm riding Ace 44 with bones medium bushings (both washers) and there is something strange with my board.
I'm regular, and it feels like my board can only be ridden this way.
I mean, if I try to ride it in goofy it feels really weird...

I was riding Indys 149 before, with bones, and it never happened...
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #972 on: August 08, 2016, 05:36:33 AM »
I'm riding Ace 44 with bones medium bushings (both washers) and there is something strange with my board.
I'm regular, and it feels like my board can only be ridden this way.
I mean, if I try to ride it in goofy it feels really weird...

I was riding Indys 149 before, with bones, and it never happened...
could be crooked axles?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #973 on: August 08, 2016, 07:58:54 AM »
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I'm riding Ace 44 with bones medium bushings (both washers) and there is something strange with my board.
I'm regular, and it feels like my board can only be ridden this way.
I mean, if I try to ride it in goofy it feels really weird...

I was riding Indys 149 before, with bones, and it never happened...
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could be crooked axles?
You probably have wobble in one or both kingpins. Take your hangers off and see if you can wiggle the kingpin.
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« Reply #974 on: August 08, 2016, 11:33:07 AM »
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I'm riding Ace 44 with bones medium bushings (both washers) and there is something strange with my board.
I'm regular, and it feels like my board can only be ridden this way.
I mean, if I try to ride it in goofy it feels really weird...

I was riding Indys 149 before, with bones, and it never happened...
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could be crooked axles?
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You probably have wobble in one or both kingpins. Take your hangers off and see if you can wiggle the kingpin.

I've had that happpen with Thunders recently.

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« Reply #975 on: August 08, 2016, 11:53:22 AM »
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I'm riding Ace 44 with bones medium bushings (both washers) and there is something strange with my board.
I'm regular, and it feels like my board can only be ridden this way.
I mean, if I try to ride it in goofy it feels really weird...

I was riding Indys 149 before, with bones, and it never happened...
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could be crooked axles?
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You probably have wobble in one or both kingpins. Take your hangers off and see if you can wiggle the kingpin.
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I've had that happpen with Thunders recently.
Damn that sucks to hear I'm on thunders right now. Were they the hollow forged, or the team baseplates?
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« Reply #976 on: August 08, 2016, 11:56:39 AM »
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I'm riding Ace 44 with bones medium bushings (both washers) and there is something strange with my board.
I'm regular, and it feels like my board can only be ridden this way.
I mean, if I try to ride it in goofy it feels really weird...

I was riding Indys 149 before, with bones, and it never happened...
[close]
could be crooked axles?
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You probably have wobble in one or both kingpins. Take your hangers off and see if you can wiggle the kingpin.
[close]

I've had that happpen with Thunders recently.
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Damn that sucks to hear I'm on thunders right now. Were they the hollow forged, or the team baseplates?

they were just the regular team baseplates. 151's.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #977 on: August 08, 2016, 01:08:59 PM »
decided to dump everything I was skating when I hurt my ankle.  to even further distance myself, I went back to Thunder (from Indy).

set up some Ti 149 hangars on the regular ol' USA baseplates, with some old bones med (always use old bushings to avoid the break in time).   tiny bit more height with a tiny bit more weight.  think it's gonna be the sweet spot.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #978 on: August 08, 2016, 03:43:00 PM »
decided to dump everything I was skating when I hurt my ankle.  to even further distance myself, I went back to Thunder (from Indy).

set up some Ti 149 hangars on the regular ol' USA baseplates, with some old bones med (always use old bushings to avoid the break in time).   tiny bit more height with a tiny bit more weight.  think it's gonna be the sweet spot.

i've had a few sets, but those dual duro bushings wear out too quickly on me.

the seam between the softer base and the harder cone always ends up blowing out shortly after they've broken in

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #979 on: August 08, 2016, 03:56:02 PM »
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decided to dump everything I was skating when I hurt my ankle.  to even further distance myself, I went back to Thunder (from Indy).

set up some Ti 149 hangars on the regular ol' USA baseplates, with some old bones med (always use old bushings to avoid the break in time).   tiny bit more height with a tiny bit more weight.  think it's gonna be the sweet spot.
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i've had a few sets, but those dual duro bushings wear out too quickly on me.

the seam between the softer base and the harder cone always ends up blowing out shortly after they've broken in
When was the last time you skated them? That would always happen to mine, but it seems like in the past 6 months or so the quality has gone way up. I would normally blow a set out in a month or 2 but the last set I had lasted like 5 months. Anyone else have good luck with them recently?
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #980 on: August 08, 2016, 04:38:48 PM »
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decided to dump everything I was skating when I hurt my ankle.  to even further distance myself, I went back to Thunder (from Indy).

set up some Ti 149 hangars on the regular ol' USA baseplates, with some old bones med (always use old bushings to avoid the break in time).   tiny bit more height with a tiny bit more weight.  think it's gonna be the sweet spot.
[close]

i've had a few sets, but those dual duro bushings wear out too quickly on me.

the seam between the softer base and the harder cone always ends up blowing out shortly after they've broken in
[close]
When was the last time you skated them? That would always happen to mine, but it seems like in the past 6 months or so the quality has gone way up. I would normally blow a set out in a month or 2 but the last set I had lasted like 5 months. Anyone else have good luck with them recently?

last set was just a couple months ago... they lasted liiike 6 weeks in indy's stage 11s.

maybe old stock... either way, they're nice to get a broken in feel a bit quicker, but i'm back on stock indy... might try indy aftermarket

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« Reply #981 on: August 08, 2016, 07:09:26 PM »
Anyone have experience using Doh-Dohs (Shorty's) bushings on Indys? They were the only aftermarket bushings at my local shop and they said they would fit (with stock washers), but once you tighten them even a bit the sides just shred off. I remember this happening when I tried Doh-Dohs like six or seven years ago too. Rode those for quite a while and they never felt bad, despite the tearing.   

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #982 on: August 09, 2016, 01:19:25 AM »
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I'm riding Ace 44 with bones medium bushings (both washers) and there is something strange with my board.
I'm regular, and it feels like my board can only be ridden this way.
I mean, if I try to ride it in goofy it feels really weird...

I was riding Indys 149 before, with bones, and it never happened...
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could be crooked axles?
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You probably have wobble in one or both kingpins. Take your hangers off and see if you can wiggle the kingpin.

OK thanks, I'll check this out !
I'm riding these Aces for only 2 months...

Is there a way to fix the kingpin back to the baseplate ?
Possibilities are everywhere, search and enjoy.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #983 on: August 09, 2016, 06:17:48 AM »
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decided to dump everything I was skating when I hurt my ankle.  to even further distance myself, I went back to Thunder (from Indy).

set up some Ti 149 hangars on the regular ol' USA baseplates, with some old bones med (always use old bushings to avoid the break in time).   tiny bit more height with a tiny bit more weight.  think it's gonna be the sweet spot.
[close]

i've had a few sets, but those dual duro bushings wear out too quickly on me.

the seam between the softer base and the harder cone always ends up blowing out shortly after they've broken in
[close]
When was the last time you skated them? That would always happen to mine, but it seems like in the past 6 months or so the quality has gone way up. I would normally blow a set out in a month or 2 but the last set I had lasted like 5 months. Anyone else have good luck with them recently?

ive never had a problem with bones med in the last decade or so since I started skating em. 
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #984 on: August 09, 2016, 09:24:52 AM »
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decided to dump everything I was skating when I hurt my ankle.  to even further distance myself, I went back to Thunder (from Indy).

set up some Ti 149 hangars on the regular ol' USA baseplates, with some old bones med (always use old bushings to avoid the break in time).   tiny bit more height with a tiny bit more weight.  think it's gonna be the sweet spot.
[close]

i've had a few sets, but those dual duro bushings wear out too quickly on me.

the seam between the softer base and the harder cone always ends up blowing out shortly after they've broken in
[close]
When was the last time you skated them? That would always happen to mine, but it seems like in the past 6 months or so the quality has gone way up. I would normally blow a set out in a month or 2 but the last set I had lasted like 5 months. Anyone else have good luck with them recently?
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ive never had a problem with bones med in the last decade or so since I started skating em. 

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after a month or two... nothing is rolling straight on those.

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« Reply #985 on: August 09, 2016, 12:41:00 PM »
dunno what to say.  ive just never had a problem with em.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #986 on: August 09, 2016, 12:45:34 PM »
decided to dump everything I was skating when I hurt my ankle.  to even further distance myself, I went back to Thunder (from Indy).

set up some Ti 149 hangars on the regular ol' USA baseplates, with some old bones med (always use old bushings to avoid the break in time).   tiny bit more height with a tiny bit more weight.  think it's gonna be the sweet spot.

Ti hangers on the team plates are really nice - like you said a bit more weight but the bonus of a tiny bit more height; I use bones med bottoms and soft tops, makes a nice carvy setup once you lean into it. Either Reed or Lenny planted that idea in my head. Not cost effective for most tho.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #987 on: August 09, 2016, 09:48:04 PM »
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decided to dump everything I was skating when I hurt my ankle.�  to even further distance myself, I went back to Thunder (from Indy).

set up some Ti 149 hangars on the regular ol' USA baseplates, with some old bones med (always use old bushings to avoid the break in time).�  � tiny bit more height with a tiny bit more weight.�  think it's gonna be the sweet spot.
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i've had a few sets, but those dual duro bushings wear out too quickly on me.

the seam between the softer base and the harder cone always ends up blowing out shortly after they've broken in
[close]
When was the last time you skated them? That would always happen to mine, but it seems like in the past 6 months or so the quality has gone way up. I would normally blow a set out in a month or 2 but the last set I had lasted like 5 months. Anyone else have good luck with them recently?
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ive never had a problem with bones med in the last decade or so since I started skating em. 
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this is what's up for me:



after a month or two... nothing is rolling straight on those.
That happens to my homie who always skates those. After about a month or two they're blown out in the exact same way.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #988 on: August 09, 2016, 11:35:05 PM »
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I'm riding Ace 44 with bones medium bushings (both washers) and there is something strange with my board.
I'm regular, and it feels like my board can only be ridden this way.
I mean, if I try to ride it in goofy it feels really weird...

I was riding Indys 149 before, with bones, and it never happened...
[close]
could be crooked axles?
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You probably have wobble in one or both kingpins. Take your hangers off and see if you can wiggle the kingpin.
[close]

OK thanks, I'll check this out !
I'm riding these Aces for only 2 months...

Is there a way to fix the kingpin back to the baseplate ?

I checked my kingpins yesterday and you were right: the kingpin of my front truck is not sticked to the baseplate anymore...
I tighten up my front truck a little and it feels better, but is this the only way to fix the problem ?
Possibilities are everywhere, search and enjoy.

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« Reply #989 on: August 10, 2016, 03:25:11 AM »
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I'm riding Ace 44 with bones medium bushings (both washers) and there is something strange with my board.
I'm regular, and it feels like my board can only be ridden this way.
I mean, if I try to ride it in goofy it feels really weird...

I was riding Indys 149 before, with bones, and it never happened...
[close]
could be crooked axles?
[close]
You probably have wobble in one or both kingpins. Take your hangers off and see if you can wiggle the kingpin.
[close]

OK thanks, I'll check this out !
I'm riding these Aces for only 2 months...

Is there a way to fix the kingpin back to the baseplate ?
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I checked my kingpins yesterday and you were right: the kingpin of my front truck is not sticked to the baseplate anymore...
I tighten up my front truck a little and it feels better, but is this the only way to fix the problem ?


Go on YouTube and look up how to replace truck kingpins by that ratvision guy, it's not that hard. I've replaced kingpins a few times. Just gotta watch your thumbs when hammering

That bones medium tearing usually happens when you ride loose ish and no bottom washer, I heard riding the hards without a washer is fine and they break in to feel like fresh mediums
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