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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1080 on: August 24, 2016, 12:09:33 PM »
couldn't get back into the Thunders. 

so, back on the Indy 149 program (some olders Reynolds hollow kingpin/hangar with the regular baseplate I'd been skating for a year or so)...this time with the orange indy aftermarkets.
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« Reply #1081 on: August 24, 2016, 12:17:15 PM »
Really digging the orange conical aftermarket Indy bushings I have in my 149s, good stuff.

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« Reply #1082 on: August 24, 2016, 01:15:43 PM »
Really digging the orange conical aftermarket Indy bushings I have in my 139s, good stuff.
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« Reply #1083 on: August 24, 2016, 01:18:00 PM »
Outside of Khiro conical, I really like those Creature 94A bushings, which are basically NHS/Indy anyway, just colored green. I also use small washers with them (top/bottom) instead of one small/top and one big/bottom.

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« Reply #1084 on: August 24, 2016, 01:56:06 PM »
what's the difference with a smaller washer on the bottom?  very curious
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« Reply #1085 on: August 24, 2016, 02:12:30 PM »
what's the difference with a smaller washer on the bottom?  very curious

Nothing really. Just OCD. I got so used to those conicals with the metal insert that when I skated 'normal' bushings (without the metal insert) I just tried to replicate the look. It's really just an OCD thing.

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« Reply #1086 on: August 24, 2016, 02:26:27 PM »
what's the difference with a smaller washer on the bottom?  very curious

Nothing really. Just OCD. I got so used to those conicals with the metal insert that when I skated 'normal' bushings (without the metal insert) I just tried to replicate the look. It's really just an OCD thing.

oh, I get it.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1087 on: August 24, 2016, 05:14:28 PM »
couldn't get back into the Thunders. 

so, back on the Indy 149 program (some olders Reynolds hollow kingpin/hangar with the regular baseplate I'd been skating for a year or so)...this time with the orange indy aftermarkets.

Just curious (I can't decided between the two for my next trucks), what were the main things that made you drop the thunder and go back to indy?

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« Reply #1088 on: August 24, 2016, 05:20:47 PM »
Unless you're a slash dog, you guys are fuckkng up not considering Ventures. I hemmed and hawed about trucks for a solid 2 years and couldn't get comfortable on Stage 11s (10s were great imo) or Thunders. Back on ventures, threw in the Indy 92(blue) bushings, don't want to ride anything else.
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« Reply #1089 on: August 24, 2016, 05:26:58 PM »
I'm skating Thunder 149 hi's, the bushings are totally munched up and exploding inside out. I've been skating bones medium in them but they don't seem to work well or last long. Are there any good bushings specific to Thunder hi's or are bones the best?

Do you use any washers?

no washer on bottom, the small washer that comes with the bushings on top.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1090 on: August 24, 2016, 05:35:33 PM »
Unless you're a slash dog, you guys are fuckkng up not considering Ventures. I hemmed and hawed about trucks for a solid 2 years and couldn't get comfortable on Stage 11s (10s were great imo) or Thunders. Back on ventures, threw in the Indy 92(blue) bushings, don't want to ride anything else.

Are they as stable as people say? I could probably get down with some ventures.

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« Reply #1091 on: August 24, 2016, 05:51:09 PM »
Unless you're a slash dog, you guys are fuckkng up not considering Ventures. I hemmed and hawed about trucks for a solid 2 years and couldn't get comfortable on Stage 11s (10s were great imo) or Thunders. Back on ventures, threw in the Indy 92(blue) bushings, don't want to ride anything else.

Brother you are going to think I am insane, but I've been rotating a set of Tensor Mag Lite HI into the mix and they are REALLY good trucks. I have zero reason to get on here and hype up Tensors out of the blue but I was really surprised in the most positive way possible. Known for being tech trucks, they turn beautifully and ironically enough, are actually taller than Thunder 149 HI.

I want to put some more time on them before I go crazy with praise but so far I've been impressed.

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« Reply #1092 on: August 24, 2016, 06:11:14 PM »
Man you truck hounds down in the states should start a truck library service or something like that, maybe thats a weird idea, but it would awesome to hear your guys thoughts on like every truck/bushing out there without you having to pay for ones you might not like, on like a 2 week rotation or something,I would love to nerd out on that and I don't think I am alone.

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« Reply #1093 on: August 24, 2016, 06:52:41 PM »
Thunder bushings fit the best (duh) but to me they don't have enough rebound, they feel sort of slow and sloppy when loose.

Even with bones you have to use the bottom washers to match height of the stock bushings if you want to maintain stock geo (if that matters to you, tons of people don't bother.


My preference are the red 88a conical Indy aftermarkets + a washer (the thin bones washer is perfect); I posted a pic of it in this thread a few pages back or so.

I just switched back to the team plates using the same bushings/krux pin and it feels fantastic.

i was riding thunders for years with bones bushings and id always end up with a messed up pivot cup. rode  em with the thunder aftermarkets and it never happened again.

i was on the indy 88s but they were too soft. the 90 conicals are perfect for me on indys
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1094 on: August 24, 2016, 07:23:07 PM »
Zimmer- Yeah man, they're really stable, take a little more to turn, but the do turn. I ride them washer flush. 

Heritage- I don't doubt it! I'd be down to try a set. I almost won a set of new mag lights on ebay a couple of weeks ago but got snaked at the last second. I've seen kids at the park ripping the bowl in Tensors... Shit, one kid was destroying it on a set of Silvers.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1095 on: August 24, 2016, 08:07:03 PM »
Man you truck hounds down in the states should start a truck library service or something like that, maybe thats a weird idea, but it would awesome to hear your guys thoughts on like every truck/bushing out there without you having to pay for ones you might not like, on like a 2 week rotation or something,I would love to nerd out on that and I don't think I am alone.

Haha, this thread is like AA for truck nerds. I've yet to meet someone in real life that nerds out on trucks like me, only on here. It's lame how so many truck companies have been putting garbage stock bushings in their trucks for so long and most skaters pay no attention to it. Bushings are the key to a trucks performance. Period. If you have some shitty bushings, or ones that are not the correct height, you're paying around $40-$50 for a set of trucks that are working improperly and run the risk of breaking faster. If trucks are designed to last long enough to do a fuckton of grinds, why not include some bushings with some good rebound and a durometer that's not as soft as playdoh?

There's this local dude at the park who could easily be am, if not pro, and he's been skating hand-me-downs for as long as I've known him. Old stages of Indy's with obliterated bushings and pivot cups that look like they were fished from a landfill. Chipped up and no concave boards, flatspot infested wheels, rusted bearings. Dude doesn't give a fuck...I tip my fedora to him.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1096 on: August 24, 2016, 08:14:23 PM »
Man you truck hounds down in the states should start a truck library service or something like that, maybe thats a weird idea, but it would awesome to hear your guys thoughts on like every truck/bushing out there without you having to pay for ones you might not like, on like a 2 week rotation or something,I would love to nerd out on that and I don't think I am alone.

Haha, this thread is like AA for truck nerds. I've yet to meet someone in real life that nerds out on trucks like me, only on here. It's lame how so many truck companies have been putting garbage stock bushings in their trucks for so long and most skaters pay no attention to it. Bushings are the key to a trucks performance. Period. If you have some shitty bushings, or ones that are not the correct height, you're paying around $40-$50 for a set of trucks that are working improperly and run the risk of breaking faster. If trucks are designed to last long enough to do a fuckton of grinds, why not include some bushings with some good rebound and a durometer that's not as soft as playdoh?

There's this local dude at the park who could easily be am, if not pro, and he's been skating hand-me-downs for as long as I've known him. Old stages of Indy's with obliterated bushings and pivot cups that look like they were fished from a landfill. Chipped up and no concave boards, flatspot infested wheels, rusted bearings. Dude doesn't give a fuck...I tip my fedora to him.
Most trucks bought don't get skated, buyers are usually parents for their kids. People would freak if Indy changed their stock bushings, don't forget most buyers aren't 6 foot 180. Using soft bushings may not be everyone but they are always skateable. Harder stock bushings would need instant replacing more often, indys are used for more than just street skating.

There is obviously a market for bushings too look at Khiro and Thunder with all their replacement packs. My problem is people think bones bushings are actually good, they're like a shitstain on a great brand.

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« Reply #1097 on: August 24, 2016, 11:57:47 PM »
aha yeah this thread is the only place i can find others to talk and relate about trucks with, all or most of my friends just dont care what they ride. theyre just like, this is what i like or have been riding forever so im gonna just stick to it, no opinion on what they ride what so ever.

sorry for being that guy, but guys...after riding most of the best trucks except venture hi and aces(ive stepped on a friends board with aces though) my decision in the end even though i have mentioned it a page back or so. theeves. trust me they have improved. i have been riding my new v3ś for the last week and damn, they are good trucks. ive skated thunder 147 hi, 149, indy stage 11 139, 149, krux 4.0 talls, 5.0 talls and they all had their ups and sadly downs but theeves. they turn quick like thunders but they actually stay turning and carve deep in a circle like indys. and even though the website says 55mm tall theyre actually about a thunder 147 hi height maybe a little taller cause i guess the angle of the hangar and cause of the height you dont feel so unstably hi like indys 55mm

to wrap up what i said about theeve incase you guys want to know how they feel and ride.
-quick turn and response
-deep turn
-stable height
-somewhat light
-grinds so so but the clearance is outstanding, messed up getting into a 50 and the kingpin somehow didnt get scratched at all
-the hole placement though i cant confirm yet if its a good thing or bad thing because i feel it kinda shortens the wheel base but i like that and i noticed getting into nose and tailslides didnt easily lock into the baseplate so that might be off for some
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1098 on: August 25, 2016, 02:08:47 AM »
Unless you're a slash dog, you guys are fuckkng up not considering Ventures. I hemmed and hawed about trucks for a solid 2 years and couldn't get comfortable on Stage 11s (10s were great imo) or Thunders. Back on ventures, threw in the Indy 92(blue) bushings, don't want to ride anything else.

Brother you are going to think I am insane, but I've been rotating a set of Tensor Mag Lite HI into the mix and they are REALLY good trucks. I have zero reason to get on here and hype up Tensors out of the blue but I was really surprised in the most positive way possible. Known for being tech trucks, they turn beautifully and ironically enough, are actually taller than Thunder 149 HI.

I want to put some more time on them before I go crazy with praise but so far I've been impressed.


my mate got a set of tensors mag lite (lows though) after going through a set of thunders 149 high. the comparison in height is similar (tensor low = thunder high) and he only had good things to say. What impressed me the most was that his board felt like there were no trucks attached. crazy stuff. he set them with doh dohs and the board felt great.
too bad the metal chewed like fuck and after every grind there were debri around the ledge that looked like someone had just sharpened a metal pencil. trucks lasted about a month but my mate mostly does grinds and flat ground tricks
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« Reply #1099 on: August 25, 2016, 02:12:17 AM »
Theeve got outed for false claims with their titanium. Shops don't carry them here but i always wanted to try em.

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« Reply #1100 on: August 25, 2016, 07:53:13 AM »
so for the krux-bushings-in-aces people, do you keep both washers on as well? or do you remove one or both of them?

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« Reply #1101 on: August 25, 2016, 07:59:27 AM »
couldn't get back into the Thunders. 

so, back on the Indy 149 program (some olders Reynolds hollow kingpin/hangar with the regular baseplate I'd been skating for a year or so)...this time with the orange indy aftermarkets.

Just curious (I can't decided between the two for my next trucks), what were the main things that made you drop the thunder and go back to indy?

familiarity.  the set of indys are trucks id been skating for a year or so.  I put on the Thunders and thought, "do I want to have to break these in?" ... my answer was "no".

also, I actually like the weight of Indys.  it's just feels weird when the board is so light.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1102 on: August 25, 2016, 08:21:20 AM »
couldn't get back into the Thunders.� 

so, back on the Indy 149 program (some olders Reynolds hollow kingpin/hangar with the regular baseplate I'd been skating for a year or so)...this time with the orange indy aftermarkets.

Just curious (I can't decided between the two for my next trucks), what were the main things that made you drop the thunder and go back to indy?

familiarity.  the set of indys are trucks id been skating for a year or so.  I put on the Thunders and thought, "do I want to have to break these in?" ... my answer was "no".

also, I actually like the weight of Indys.  it's just feels weird when the board is so light.

Makes sense! So many trucks, so little money..

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« Reply #1103 on: August 25, 2016, 08:59:25 AM »
so for the krux-bushings-in-aces people, do you keep both washers on as well? or do you remove one or both of them?

I use both washers, well the bottom anyway as I use the Krux downlow kingpins.

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« Reply #1104 on: August 25, 2016, 08:43:21 PM »
Pretty bummed on my truck situation atm, noticed my board was sounding weird yesterday took off the hanger this morning to find the kingpin on one of my Thunder 147's was loose, hammered it back in, only to find that its loose again after skating today. Has anyone ever successfully fixed this or is my shit totally fucked, had the same problem with indy's before and never was able to fix it.  :'(

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« Reply #1105 on: August 25, 2016, 10:21:47 PM »
Anyone try forged base plates with a normal solid kingpin? I think most forged bp's come strictly with hollow kingpins.

I prefer the denser vibration feel of solid kingpins under my feet (where as the hollow type feel opposite and rattly), but the forged bp's feel pretty good on their own. I've been wanting to try to install normal kp's into the forged ones. Not sure how it'd be though.

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« Reply #1106 on: August 27, 2016, 03:35:58 PM »
Truck nerds I need some help. I can't decide what trucks to mount on this beauty. Board is 8.8" at its widest and tapers to 8.25". I told myself I'd never get one of these tapered Polar shapes again as the drastic taper makes truck choice tricky but this one really called out to me. My choices are Ace 44/55, Indy 149/ 159 or Thunder 151? I'm leaving towards Indy 149s with 56mm conical wide F4s.

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« Reply #1107 on: August 27, 2016, 03:58:03 PM »
Yeah, anything 149 brotha.

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« Reply #1108 on: August 27, 2016, 08:43:26 PM »
What size decks do you plan on riding in the future?  Do you usually skate 8.5's?  Or do you see yourself dipping back to an 8.25?  That should dictate it unless you are ok w. multiple set ups....

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« Reply #1109 on: August 27, 2016, 08:45:14 PM »
Yeah, anything 149 brotha.

This. If you go bigger, the nose might be spot on, but the back truck will stick out like a mofo.