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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1230 on: October 04, 2016, 09:57:47 PM »
I just set up my cruiser with the indy aftermarket super soft cylinders. I thought I would blow them out instantly at 200lbs but they're super surfy and fun. Matched the bushing and wheel at 78a durometer and it feels like heaven, especially on manuals.

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« Reply #1231 on: October 04, 2016, 10:53:51 PM »
I just set up my cruiser with the indy aftermarket super soft cylinders. I thought I would blow them out instantly at 200lbs but they're super surfy and fun. Matched the bushing and wheel at 78a durometer and it feels like heaven, especially on manuals.

I need soft wheels in my life. My feet hurt.

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« Reply #1232 on: October 05, 2016, 04:29:07 AM »
I just set up my cruiser with the indy aftermarket super soft cylinders. I thought I would blow them out instantly at 200lbs but they're super surfy and fun. Matched the bushing and wheel at 78a durometer and it feels like heaven, especially on manuals.

I need soft wheels in my life. My feet hurt.

Are you using clouds? OJ's?

Do yourself a favor and get the clouds. I fucked around with some different ones before finding the 54 clouds. The 54's are kinda as fast as the 57's anyway but light enough for when you wanna get tricky with it. So perfect.

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« Reply #1233 on: October 05, 2016, 08:18:10 AM »
I just set up my cruiser with the indy aftermarket super soft cylinders. I thought I would blow them out instantly at 200lbs but they're super surfy and fun. Matched the bushing and wheel at 78a durometer and it feels like heaven, especially on manuals.

I need soft wheels in my life. My feet hurt.

Are you using clouds? OJ's?

OJ hot juice 55mm. Small yet grippy and fast, plus feel like butter over this fucked texas asphalt.

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« Reply #1234 on: October 05, 2016, 12:13:19 PM »
I think I'll give the 86a 54mm clouds a try, they seem just right..

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« Reply #1235 on: October 05, 2016, 09:14:41 PM »
I've been feeling like truck brand marketing is turning me off from the big 3. I love(ed) ventures for a long time and then they turned in to some hip hop truck company that is pretty off putting. The indy rtbftr bro thing makes me not want to skate them regardless of how well they turn. Thunders, whatever.

I just bought some Royals, wish me luck. They're really not as low as what tactics lists them at. geometry looks similar to indy.
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« Reply #1236 on: October 05, 2016, 11:52:23 PM »
I've never skated the same type and size of truck back to back. One of the many ways my add manifests itself. Venture trucks are a much higher quality than people give them credit for. They also push the axles out, extending the wheelbase, which to me is helpful as I am enjoying skating shorter boards but like the stability of a longer board. Short legs. Currently on thunders, and they are cool, nothing is the best at everything. Probably pop the best off of Indys, and if I had to pick one forever they might be it, by I always feel like I could do better. I also don't like how homogenized set ups can get, and so I try and support the other guys here and there. I really can't do Indy 149s, the 139s are great. Indy 139s on a board up to 8.4 feels good, but thunder 147s feel weird for me past 8.25. Blah blah blah. I suck no matter what. I have almost always tried to skate decks with the trucks that the pro who skates said deck skate. Whatever. Interested to hear about the royals. Had several pairs and really enjoyed them. The lows back in 2000 where awesome. Skating not at skateparks in the Pacific Northwest with lows sucks tho, cuz you are on 50s and going nowhere fast. The Royal IV's that I had were great for my flip floppity attempts, needed to be loose tho. This post is horrible

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« Reply #1237 on: October 06, 2016, 06:44:42 AM »
I've never skated the same type and size of truck back to back. One of the many ways my add manifests itself. Venture trucks are a much higher quality than people give them credit for. They also push the axles out, extending the wheelbase, which to me is helpful as I am enjoying skating shorter boards but like the stability of a longer board. Short legs. Currently on thunders, and they are cool, nothing is the best at everything. Probably pop the best off of Indys, and if I had to pick one forever they might be it, by I always feel like I could do better. I also don't like how homogenized set ups can get, and so I try and support the other guys here and there. I really can't do Indy 149s, the 139s are great. Indy 139s on a board up to 8.4 feels good, but thunder 147s feel weird for me past 8.25. Blah blah blah. I suck no matter what. I have almost always tried to skate decks with the trucks that the pro who skates said deck skate. Whatever. Interested to hear about the royals. Had several pairs and really enjoyed them. The lows back in 2000 where awesome. Skating not at skateparks in the Pacific Northwest with lows sucks tho, cuz you are on 50s and going nowhere fast. The Royal IV's that I had were great for my flip floppity attempts, needed to be loose tho. This post is horrible

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1238 on: October 06, 2016, 07:47:43 PM »
I've been feeling like truck brand marketing is turning me off from the big 3. I love(ed) ventures for a long time and then they turned in to some hip hop truck company that is pretty off putting. The indy rtbftr bro thing makes me not want to skate them regardless of how well they turn. Thunders, whatever.

I just bought some Royals, wish me luck. They're really not as low as what tactics lists them at. geometry looks similar to indy.

Kinda in the same boat. On Ace currently, their loose trucks save lives thing is a little corny, but whatever. They feel great right now, and they sponsor some cool dudes (Dela, Yonnie Cruz, Karma, Matt Rodriguez, The Kid). If I can't be bothered to adjust to Thunders it's Ace from here on out.

Watching Jerry in Made 2 has got me considering Royals. I skated a heap of them when I rode tight trucks and 7.75 boards 10+ years ago. It felt like you could never get them loose enough. I've probably skated more Royals than Indies. I wouldn't mind trying a set, but I don't even skate Crailtap boards anymore because of the quality. Let us know how they go.

I don't know anything about Fury (didn't even know they still existed), other than that Arto used to skate for them, but these look alright:



They come in 8.25. Probably will never pull the trigger on them, but it'd be an option for those who don't want tall 8.25 Krux.

I've never skated the same type and size of truck back to back.

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« Reply #1239 on: October 07, 2016, 12:54:09 AM »
^ I've been skating last two winters those fury evo 2's on my indoor setup, mainly because of that 8.25" axle. Metal on those seems to be little bit softer than indys as they dont grind aswell and wear down much quicker. They turn ok to my opinion,really close to indys.
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« Reply #1240 on: October 07, 2016, 06:35:13 AM »
Fury's are not bad. they had this collab with sweet skateboards some years ago and lots of people here bought them. My friend had a pair and they felt decent, he just rides tight trucks and the bushings were kinda fucked so I couldnt feel them right, but they felt better then silver, tensor, etc... The built quality was better then the Ace's i had at the time. They had a lowcard collab that was mad cool!

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« Reply #1241 on: October 07, 2016, 06:59:11 AM »
Fury's were Indy knock offs when designed.....I didn't mind them.....they aren't actually furry though....

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« Reply #1242 on: October 07, 2016, 07:37:41 AM »
 

So this happened yesterday. Frontside nose slide to pivot cup pop out.

Kind of a bitch to fix because I had to loosen the downlow kingpin to get it back in and then I was paranoid it wasn't in the locknut under the baseplate so I took the whole truck off to check...
« Last Edit: October 07, 2016, 07:41:55 AM by JAesop »

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« Reply #1243 on: October 07, 2016, 08:43:33 AM »
^ That's a weird one.  I've seen that happen when people use Bones bushings because it changes the angle of the pivot but not with stock bushings.  Hopefully it was just a fluke

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« Reply #1244 on: October 07, 2016, 10:07:19 AM »
^ That's a weird one.  I've seen that happen when people use Bones bushings because it changes the angle of the pivot but not with stock bushings.  Hopefully it was just a fluke

Must of hit it just right. The pivot cup on the front truck was never quite right even when they were new, it looks wider than the back. Anyway, I'll just get a new one. I also skate my trucks really loose so there may be too much hanger up and down slide. I've never had it happen before, but I still love the Krux.

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« Reply #1245 on: October 08, 2016, 08:35:48 PM »
The pivot cup on the front truck was never quite right
That's a bummer.  I've noticed that, on almost all pairs of krux ive seen, the top of the pivot cups stick out above the seat for them and I feel like they should be flush.  Also had too much kingpin hangup and just wasn't feeling the pair I had, so I ditched em.

Funny to see people talking about Fury on here, but I might actually give them a try, as I'm desperate for a 8.25 truck that I like, and they don't look half terrible.  If only Indy could make an 8.25.....

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« Reply #1246 on: October 08, 2016, 10:56:51 PM »
The pivot cup on the front truck was never quite right
That's a bummer.  I've noticed that, on almost all pairs of krux ive seen, the top of the pivot cups stick out above the seat for them and I feel like they should be flush.  Also had too much kingpin hangup and just wasn't feeling the pair I had, so I ditched em.

Funny to see people talking about Fury on here, but I might actually give them a try, as I'm desperate for a 8.25 truck that I like, and they don't look half terrible.  If only Indy could make an 8.25.....

Same here, but a mid! I just can't skate 55mm trucks, I feel so tippy.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1247 on: October 09, 2016, 05:23:20 AM »
Funny to see people talking about Fury on here, but I might actually give them a try, as I'm desperate for a 8.25 truck that I like, and they don't look half terrible.  If only Indy could make an 8.25.....

Same here, but a mid! I just can't skate 55mm trucks, I feel so tippy.

The reason I stopped skating Indy. Somewhere around 52-53mm is the sweet spot for me. Something 8.25 and about 53mm tall would be nice. For now I've settled for Ace 44s.

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« Reply #1248 on: October 09, 2016, 06:05:31 AM »
Funny to see people talking about Fury on here, but I might actually give them a try, as I'm desperate for a 8.25 truck that I like, and they don't look half terrible.  If only Indy could make an 8.25.....

Same here, but a mid! I just can't skate 55mm trucks, I feel so tippy.

The reason I stopped skating Indy. Somewhere around 52-53mm is the sweet spot for me. Something 8.25 and about 53mm tall would be nice. For now I've settled for Ace 44s.


Go for indy's with forget baseplates. I'm with a 139 stage XI koston's in my set-up and I cant think of a better truck out. They just feel awesome to me. After a pair of Ace's 33 is night and day difference.

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« Reply #1249 on: October 09, 2016, 11:59:05 PM »
hey guys so if any of you remember im the low truck ranting guy, but any who i bought those aluminum tensor low and damn, just these are the possibly worst low trucks on the market. idk how daewon does it maybe the mags are made better besides being magnesium. the turn is very standard non special geometry turn, kinda sloppy. plus the bushings i took out and noticed the rings on the flat surface part of bushings was not even complete on one of the bushings, one bushing had all the usual rebound rings cut right and the other one was missing rings, it only had like 4 while typical bushings have like 10 or so of that rebound rings you see on the flat surface of the bushing that touches the yoke

so to wrap it up, dont buy tensor aluminum lows(or regs), maybe the mags but just stay away from tensor in general i would say, you really pay for what you get, these were $34 for the set and i truly regret it. dreams of skating like daewon crushed

but on to new things i discovered my indy lows are the best low trucks, so i jumped the gun and got some ace 03/ ace lows and boy oh boy when shop employees dont pay attention to current stock

they freaking sent me 1 new version of the 03 thats made with better quality aluminum and build, stiffer bushings, and 2 speed rings per axle and 1 old version of the 03 with 1 speed ring per axle, the softer bushings ace use to have, and a lower quality grade aluminum. how do i know its a lower grade? its the old aluminum that was the cause of old aces breaking and bending easily and when i spun my wheels on both new and old ace truck the bearing spinning against the old ace made this hollow chinging kind of rolling sound while the new ace with the bearing rolling against the axle sounded like a normal solid truck like your goto indys and thunders and good trucks.

idk i emailed them at [email protected], hopefully thats the right email joey put up and they can fix this cause like all you truck maniacs i cannot ride this setup of 1 new ace build and 1 old ace build, plus the soft bushing on 1 side and stiff bushing on the other is too much, you guys understand. you cant just tighten them cause the old ace bushings are so soft theres gonna be a few threads sticking while the new ace bushings require a wind down less than flush

overall though when this is fixed i cannot wait to get rolling on them, cause this might not be relate-able but i have some indy 109 on a zinger and i love the way they have this carvy but slight quick response turn and i think aces are supposed to be based of indy stage 3/4 and 109ś are stage 1 but i feel theyre relatively a similar style of feel and turn for different but close stages/versions

for now i guess its the indy 139 low til joey sends me a new 03, also the new 03 came in a bag that had a label with diamond on it while the old one didnt. i know joey and nick are cousins and work together. but crazy how the guys at the shop couldnt sort that out for me, also these were the last set on stock at the shop thats why im getting at ace isntead of the shop
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« Reply #1250 on: October 10, 2016, 02:29:27 AM »
Of course Tensors are trash. They're great if you don't want to turn, that's the reason why Daewon's setup is the way it is (no washers, no bushings, half a bushing, etc).

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Go for indy's with forget baseplates. I'm with a 139 stage XI koston's in my set-up and I cant think of a better truck out. They just feel awesome to me. After a pair of Ace's 33 is night and day difference.

It's an option, but I'd like to stay on something with an 8.25-8.5 axle for boards between 8 and 8.25.



Anyone out there skating 8.25 trucks that aren't Krux? We need a review on those Royals, Nallid!
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« Reply #1251 on: October 10, 2016, 09:14:20 AM »
Jesus Christ Rob.... why would you email the company if the problem was with the shop?

Clamy-they're just sitting here. Probably won't be able to get on them until next weekend.
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« Reply #1252 on: October 10, 2016, 09:19:43 AM »
hey guys so if any of you remember im the low truck ranting guy, but any who i bought those aluminum tensor low and damn, just these are the possibly worst low trucks on the market. idk how daewon does it maybe the mags are made better besides being magnesium. the turn is very standard non special geometry turn, kinda sloppy. plus the bushings i took out and noticed the rings on the flat surface part of bushings was not even complete on one of the bushings, one bushing had all the usual rebound rings cut right and the other one was missing rings, it only had like 4 while typical bushings have like 10 or so of that rebound rings you see on the flat surface of the bushing that touches the yoke

so to wrap it up, dont buy tensor aluminum lows(or regs), maybe the mags but just stay away from tensor in general i would say, you really pay for what you get, these were $34 for the set and i truly regret it. dreams of skating like daewon crushed

but on to new things i discovered my indy lows are the best low trucks, so i jumped the gun and got some ace 03/ ace lows and boy oh boy when shop employees dont pay attention to current stock

they freaking sent me 1 new version of the 03 thats made with better quality aluminum and build, stiffer bushings, and 2 speed rings per axle and 1 old version of the 03 with 1 speed ring per axle, the softer bushings ace use to have, and a lower quality grade aluminum. how do i know its a lower grade? its the old aluminum that was the cause of old aces breaking and bending easily and when i spun my wheels on both new and old ace truck the bearing spinning against the old ace made this hollow chinging kind of rolling sound while the new ace with the bearing rolling against the axle sounded like a normal solid truck like your goto indys and thunders and good trucks.

idk i emailed them at [email protected], hopefully thats the right email joey put up and they can fix this cause like all you truck maniacs i cannot ride this setup of 1 new ace build and 1 old ace build, plus the soft bushing on 1 side and stiff bushing on the other is too much, you guys understand. you cant just tighten them cause the old ace bushings are so soft theres gonna be a few threads sticking while the new ace bushings require a wind down less than flush

overall though when this is fixed i cannot wait to get rolling on them, cause this might not be relate-able but i have some indy 109 on a zinger and i love the way they have this carvy but slight quick response turn and i think aces are supposed to be based of indy stage 3/4 and 109ś are stage 1 but i feel theyre relatively a similar style of feel and turn for different but close stages/versions

for now i guess its the indy 139 low til joey sends me a new 03, also the new 03 came in a bag that had a label with diamond on it while the old one didnt. i know joey and nick are cousins and work together. but crazy how the guys at the shop couldnt sort that out for me, also these were the last set on stock at the shop thats why im getting at ace isntead of the shop



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« Reply #1253 on: October 10, 2016, 09:30:00 AM »
royal makes an 8.25 truck? they don't have any axle measurements on their site.

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« Reply #1254 on: October 10, 2016, 10:14:00 AM »
Uh...yeah rob don't know what the hell you were thinking emailing Joey about a shop sending you two different designs of the same truck. Call the shop you ordered it from and explain the differences between trucks, and they'll send you the right ones.

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« Reply #1255 on: October 10, 2016, 12:01:49 PM »
Uh...yeah rob don't know what the hell you were thinking emailing Joey about a shop sending you two different designs of the same truck. Call the shop you ordered it from and explain the differences between trucks, and they'll send you the right ones.

This. Just yesterday a guy at a shop gave me 57mm wheels saying they were 54mm. I'm not gonna email spitfire telling them they need to send me new wheels lol. Seriously though rob its not a big deal, I'm not gonna rag on ya.

I'm just gonna keep the wheels, I'm interested in trying them out. Plus they're "grosso's", the shop is 2 hours away, its my fault for not double checking, I can just buy the set I want from the local, etc...

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« Reply #1256 on: October 10, 2016, 01:29:51 PM »
Uh...yeah rob don't know what the hell you were thinking emailing Joey about a shop sending you two different designs of the same truck. Call the shop you ordered it from and explain the differences between trucks, and they'll send you the right ones.

This. Just yesterday a guy at a shop gave me 57mm wheels saying they were 54mm. I'm not gonna email spitfire telling them they need to send me new wheels lol. Seriously though rob its not a big deal, I'm not gonna rag on ya.

I'm just gonna keep the wheels, I'm interested in trying them out. Plus they're "grosso's", the shop is 2 hours away, its my fault for not double checking, I can just buy the set I want from the local, etc...

I really love the 55mm grossos for smaller (<6') transition. Just fast enough without being too large or bulky.

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« Reply #1257 on: October 10, 2016, 02:51:03 PM »
I've never skated the same type and size of truck back to back. One of the many ways my add manifests itself. Venture trucks are a much higher quality than people give them credit for. They also push the axles out, extending the wheelbase, which to me is helpful as I am enjoying skating shorter boards but like the stability of a longer board. Short legs. Currently on thunders, and they are cool, nothing is the best at everything. Probably pop the best off of Indys, and if I had to pick one forever they might be it, by I always feel like I could do better. I also don't like how homogenized set ups can get, and so I try and support the other guys here and there. I really can't do Indy 149s, the 139s are great. Indy 139s on a board up to 8.4 feels good, but thunder 147s feel weird for me past 8.25. Blah blah blah. I suck no matter what. I have almost always tried to skate decks with the trucks that the pro who skates said deck skate. Whatever. Interested to hear about the royals. Had several pairs and really enjoyed them. The lows back in 2000 where awesome. Skating not at skateparks in the Pacific Northwest with lows sucks tho, cuz you are on 50s and going nowhere fast. The Royal IV's that I had were great for my flip floppity attempts, needed to be loose tho. This post is horrible

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« Reply #1258 on: October 11, 2016, 07:45:28 AM »
Some of you talking about how Thunders slightly outdo Ace make me curious to try them again. It's been a long time and I don't remember how well they turn/grind. Being a big dude who has to worry about wheelbite, will throwing in some Bones hards do the trick? I'm thinking 149 team raw's and 53-54mm F4's.

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« Reply #1259 on: October 11, 2016, 09:38:12 AM »
Some of you talking about how Thunders slightly outdo Ace make me curious to try them again. It's been a long time and I don't remember how well they turn/grind. Being a big dude who has to worry about wheelbite, will throwing in some Bones hards do the trick? I'm thinking 149 team raw's and 53-54mm F4's.

I'd recommend keeping the stock bushings and use risers. I've ridden Thunder 149s and 151s with wheels in 54mm to 58mm range and get wheel bite but never enough to come to a dead stop. Thunders are great but the timing of the turn and 'pop' is way different to Ace.