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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1650 on: December 06, 2016, 05:38:22 AM »
Anyone tried the super soft (white) Indy aftermarket bushings? I just ordered some to try to get these krux k4s to turn. Still baffled by these plastic shitty bushings everyone swears by.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1651 on: December 06, 2016, 06:19:37 AM »
That's how I feel, need that lowered truck for quicker pop response

However, every time i see someone ollie higher than me they are always riding a bigger set up. Higher trucks (indy standards are very popular in my area -either this or destructo), bigger board/wheels. Makes my kit look weak haha. I usually think that i should join the club at some point but right now i just want to enjoy my time skating.
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« Reply #1652 on: December 06, 2016, 07:10:36 AM »
Yeah I can appreciate why people like thunders the way they are. the lower pop feels great for certain things, but personally I need more turn. Also definitely am not someone who can naturally pop high, so I take any advantage I can get. Get me some Thunders with 1/8th risers and it just feels good when I smack that tail on the ground.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1653 on: December 06, 2016, 07:27:40 AM »
I went the safe route and have been riding my Venture 5.25 lows again. No slight against Thunder either, pleasantly surprised by how they ride. I just feel more natural on my ventures. I even went as far as to buy a Venture hoodie and long sleeve to solidify my decision (for the time being, until I change my mind again and then have to buy a Thunder hoodie and long sleeve). I think I just need to stay in this safe realm for now due to my lack of consistent skate time. I may be retarded but I actually find the venture low 5.25 and thunder hi 147 to feel pretty similar minus the stock bushings (I don't like changing bushings but I have 2 sets of supercush in case I ever get sassy). If I can start getting more regular skate time I will probably go back n forth between brands though. I almost feel like a traitor for my lack of interest in Indy as I was "one of those guys" for most of my "career". I just can't skate them like I used to
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1654 on: December 06, 2016, 08:28:50 AM »
Anyone tried the super soft (white) Indy aftermarket bushings? I just ordered some to try to get these krux k4s to turn. Still baffled by these plastic shitty bushings everyone swears by.

I don't think it's the bushings man. I had Krux and thought the bushings were way too soft, but the trucks still didn't really turn very deep at all. Krux bushings in Ace was terrible IMO. Way too soft and turned deep as fuck with the slightest movement. But on Krux they were just unstable in the middle and but still didn't give me a proper turn. I suggest you get Aces instead if you wanna turn.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1655 on: December 06, 2016, 09:10:02 AM »
That's how I feel, need that lowered truck for quicker pop response

I guess I have to get the timing & feeling down, the bushing issue will work itself out.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1656 on: December 06, 2016, 10:18:04 AM »
Anyone tried the super soft (white) Indy aftermarket bushings? I just ordered some to try to get these krux k4s to turn. Still baffled by these plastic shitty bushings everyone swears by.

YES. They're awesome - very surfy and responsive. I expected they would blow out quick but they're my #2 choice now (blue conicals being the first).

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1657 on: December 06, 2016, 10:28:38 AM »
Anyone tried the super soft (white) Indy aftermarket bushings? I just ordered some to try to get these krux k4s to turn. Still baffled by these plastic shitty bushings everyone swears by.

YES. They're awesome - very surfy and responsive. I expected they would blow out quick but they're my #2 choice now (blue conicals being the first).

The Indy 88a are fantastic.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1658 on: December 06, 2016, 09:34:55 PM »
That's how I feel, need that lowered truck for quicker pop response

However, every time i see someone ollie higher than me they are always riding a bigger set up. Higher trucks (indy standards are very popular in my area -either this or destructo), bigger board/wheels. Makes my kit look weak haha. I usually think that i should join the club at some point but right now i just want to enjoy my time skating.

i know what you mean about getting giant pop cause the angle of higher bigger stuff helps get you up and over but truthfully if you look at the guys who can get crazy pop some of them ride lower stuff(low trucks, small wheels) like luis tolentino, the guy rode 145 thunder lows and some how pops over the tallest things.

i feel pop really just comes from board feel and how far back you position your front foot to drag the board up higher and energy you put into it. back in the mid 2000 when i was skating all day every day i rode krux 3.5/7.6 downlows and could ollie 4-5 decks tall, it was all in how you try to rocket your pop up and over/popping your hardest and evening out your board at the tip top you could best.

higher trucks do help but i say, if you have a good feeling setup that gives you the best boardfeel and response you can do anything you put your mind to, cause you know. skating is 90% mental or some hocus pocus those guys who rip and ride crappy boards do it and how those little kids are able to kickflip a set on a board with no tail and barely a nose haha

always the supposed, ride what you like and just enjoy skating. but we slap posters arent here for that mumbo jumbo. we want the best gear and feedback on what we dont have
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1659 on: December 06, 2016, 10:38:34 PM »
Pop has nothing to do with kit. It is your ability to ollie, you either have it or you don't.

As I age, the one constant is my pop, I can still clear about the same height now as I could then, regardless of truck height and wheel size.

That said:

Thunders and small wheels.

Indy/ACE and big(ger) wheels.

Crispy/snappy wood is a must, short, steep tails, medium WB, sticky grip and something to set your sights on getting over. It's about the 'hoist' ;)

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1660 on: December 06, 2016, 11:28:45 PM »
not sure where to post but i got a new bastard child mix up im trying to tune right now


thunder team baseplate
new updated bones hard bushing
thunder hollow hanger
krux downlow kingpin
ricta sparx wheels (one side is flat the other is slightly rounded, kinda interesting)
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1661 on: December 07, 2016, 01:43:50 AM »
and something to set your sights on getting over. It's about the 'hoist' ;)
this. On the old skate warehouse forums (Rip)  somebody posted a thread about how high can you ollie , and Jarvis, who is an employee there, said in a non-cocky, matter-of-fact way, "as high as I need to."

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1662 on: December 07, 2016, 09:13:20 PM »
guys guys GUYS and possible female skate heads out there...

i was setting up a cruiser with the mini logo trucks...

dude!...mini logo trucks are very legit. i didnt warm up or anything and literally the setup felt so good. got a nice high kickflip second try, some nollie 180ś, got a good switch flip attempt. switch ollie and just getting a high ollie were on super sharp point! these trucks got me

they were like a lower lighter thunder with so much control and response. idk how to describe it but damn. these mini logo trucks are the most under rated trucks ever. skate1 really put work in what they make, first stfś get me and now these mini logo trucks, they just need to redesign the look and they would be perfect.

i couldnt believe how good they were and was so baffled and amazed i have to get another set but in that 8.38 size ;D

if anyone out here is looking for a good street truck all i have to say IN MY OPINION is this is the top list

thunder
mini logo
ace
and its between royal and indy last cause they have their kinda major ups and downs in my opinion

like royals have this nice response to pop and flip tricks, they grind okay to good but turning wise they do hit a stop point on the carve

indys are solid, well built, turn deep, grind nice, but heavy and tall.

i know ima get kooked for this but hate on i stand by my opinion and i know my stuff, i aint no youtube revive braile loving grom trolling the net with biased opinions or some noob who doesnt know the difference between durometer and size
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1663 on: December 07, 2016, 09:45:26 PM »
guys guys GUYS and possible female skate heads out there...

i was setting up a cruiser with the mini logo trucks...

dude!...mini logo trucks are very legit. i didnt warm up or anything and literally the setup felt so good. got a nice high kickflip second try, some nollie 180ś, got a good switch flip attempt. switch ollie and just getting a high ollie were on super sharp point! these trucks got me

they were like a lower lighter thunder with so much control and response. idk how to describe it but damn. these mini logo trucks are the most under rated trucks ever. skate1 really put work in what they make, first stfś get me and now these mini logo trucks, they just need to redesign the look and they would be perfect.

i couldnt believe how good they were and was so baffled and amazed i have to get another set but in that 8.38 size ;D

if anyone out here is looking for a good street truck all i have to say IN MY OPINION is this is the top list

thunder
mini logo
ace
and its between royal and indy last cause they have their kinda major ups and downs in my opinion

like royals have this nice response to pop and flip tricks, they grind okay to good but turning wise they do hit a stop point on the carve

indys are solid, well built, turn deep, grind nice, but heavy and tall.

i know ima get kooked for this but hate on i stand by my opinion and i know my stuff, i aint no youtube revive braile loving grom trolling the net with biased opinions or some noob who doesnt know the difference between durometer and size
that got me curious, and im looking at them right now and the shape is kinda weirding me out, not sure if its just the pictures on there website or what

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1664 on: December 07, 2016, 09:50:27 PM »
its the actual shape ahaha

mini logo trucks are one of those things in life where its not aesthetically appealing but they work very well and satisfy the wants/needs

the hangar supposed to be bowed like ace does so you lock in to grinds better

i say if you got the money try them, theyre cheap and trust. they work. they work very well.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1665 on: December 07, 2016, 09:51:08 PM »
that got me curious, and im looking at them right now and the shape is kinda weirding me out, not sure if its just the pictures on there website or what

Nah, mini-logo trucks just look really weird.  But if they're really as good as Rob says, I say give em a shot.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1666 on: December 07, 2016, 10:48:08 PM »
Soooo: I hopped on the ace + Krux cushions bandwagon, but ended up giving the setup to my little bro before riding it, to hook him up.

Now I basically remade a similar setup for myself, but everywhere is out of Krux cushions and the ace stock is truly trash, people weren't exaggerating.... almost unsusable. Even shitty storefront sites that say they are in stock, get back to me 5 days later with the bad news.

What's the deal? Are Krux cushions out of production?

Shit sucks.

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« Reply #1667 on: December 07, 2016, 11:17:52 PM »
Yeah...mini logo trucks feel good...the finishing looks cheap...and aesthetically they look awkward but bang for the buck super good....if they didn't say 'mini logo' they'd be the next ace.....

I'm guessing Powell has had this holy grail of a truck that he's been unable to produce to his liking so they make in in China cheap and sell them as price point but I'm sure they are on par with everything else on the market....

If they put in the krux kingpin called it anything else the boards would light up.....

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1668 on: December 07, 2016, 11:54:35 PM »
Yeah...mini logo trucks feel good...the finishing looks cheap...and aesthetically they look awkward but bang for the buck super good....if they didn't say 'mini logo' they'd be the next ace.....

I'm guessing Powell has had this holy grail of a truck that he's been unable to produce to his liking so they make in in China cheap and sell them as price point but I'm sure they are on par with everything else on the market....

If they put in the krux kingpin called it anything else the boards would light up.....

so glad your on the same boat j soy, seriously idk who was in the development team with george powell working on these bad boys for 5 years but it paid off. sad they dont look more...hmmm...cool ahaha but hey if theyre making skating a better experience i can ignore the looks

definitely getting another pair, got the 8' but i like the stability of something bigger than an 8 but smaller than an 8.5 so those 8.38 mini logo are gonna be a good fit

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1669 on: December 08, 2016, 02:10:37 AM »
There was a dude on here years back that was singing praises of mini logos trucks. JBones, anyone else remember that?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1670 on: December 08, 2016, 05:55:25 AM »
good to have feedback on these trucks. how about the axles, Rob? any slippage yet?
also, i don't mind the cheapo finish -just wish the logo on the hanger was more mini :)
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1671 on: December 08, 2016, 07:33:49 AM »
Mini Logo trucks are perfectly fine until the hard plastic pivot cup breaks down. Then you are left with wobbly hangers.

Otherwise they are pretty decent/good.
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« Reply #1672 on: December 08, 2016, 08:29:40 AM »
Honestly...that's what got theeve off the ground....bones bushings...Powell could throw in their own cushions rebrand and there ya go.....

But it's Powell..the do what they do....

Made in China is unfortunately the new standard on trucks so there's nothing wrong with these ones....

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1673 on: December 08, 2016, 09:49:45 AM »
good to have feedback on these trucks. how about the axles, Rob? any slippage yet?
also, i don't mind the cheapo finish -just wish the logo on the hanger was more mini :)

When I set them up and after some riding I didn't notice anything up with the axles so I would say no slippage so far  :)
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1674 on: December 09, 2016, 12:42:32 AM »
^ good, i am yet to try the thunders i welded. At this point, my number 1 criteria is axle slip. get me a low-ish truck with no axle slip and im game.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1675 on: December 09, 2016, 08:47:45 AM »
There was a dude on here years back that was singing praises of mini logos trucks. JBones, anyone else remember that?

yea, he had a whole blog dedicated to trucks.  didn't he focus after the shitstorm that was unleashed upon him for loving mini logo trucks?
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1676 on: December 09, 2016, 02:16:20 PM »
If you skate mini logo trucks you're a kook.

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« Reply #1677 on: December 09, 2016, 02:29:06 PM »
If you skate mini logo trucks you're a kook.
well im gonna be king kook in the next couple of weeks then

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1678 on: December 09, 2016, 03:32:28 PM »
Just ordered some 8.5 Theeve TiKings and setup some Thunders.  Should be an interesting week

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1679 on: December 09, 2016, 05:34:41 PM »
I wish I was smarter, I'd make some machined steel trucks with a one piece hanger. Ultimate tolerances, ultimate money for zimmer!