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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1890 on: January 13, 2017, 10:15:36 AM »
Thinking of setting up a cruiser for the summer with a wider shaped deck and wider trucks. I've been on 149s since forever.

Been eyeing some decks and came across a Jason Jessee 8.9" one. I guess 159s would be better for that. Then again I rather like the new BA 9.25" too and I presume 169s would be better suited for that. Help me out here guys. Which size do you find more versatile for a cruiser and what width decks would be ok with the 159s and 169s? 149s on 8.25" work nicely for me, so I don't go super OCD about a few mm of overhang.  ;D

I think 159's are more versatile for the majority of us.  Keep in mind that most shaped boards taper.  That 8.9 Jason Jessee board you're looking at is actually about 8.6 over the rear trucks.  Indy 169's are 9.125 so you'll be hot doggin on the rear.

Most people including BA seem to be skating 159's on his shape again because of the taper

As a general rule -

159s - 8.6 - 9
160s - 8.8+



Thanks for the input man.

It's this deck
http://www.blacksheepstore.co.uk/santa-cruz-jason-jessee-mono-black-skateboard-deck-8-9.html

Doesn't look like it tapers very much, but it's hard to say from such pics.

For some reason I'm having a real hard time with this as I don't know exactly what kind of a cruiser I'm gonna want to ride in the future. I have to say that I'm not feeling the 10" wide old school fish shapes at all, so maybe 159s would be a safer choice, but for some reason I feel like they might be too close to 149s and thus not be different enough. Something about the 169s tempt me I guess.  ;D

Here's how I estimate taper when buying a board online.  Where the red line is touching is the max width (8.9). 

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Well damn. Nice one, I like the way you're thinking! You could also put that in some image editing program and measure the exact width using the widest point as a reference (if the listed width is for the widest point that is).  ;D

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1891 on: January 13, 2017, 12:20:32 PM »
There's a real difference between 149s and 159s, I got the 59s to build a cruiser. They ended being on my regular street setup! I love em.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1892 on: January 13, 2017, 11:19:57 PM »
There's a real difference between 149s and 159s, I got the 59s to build a cruiser. They ended being on my regular street setup! I love em.

Thank you. You have helped me ease my mind a bit about my decision.

Oh and BMCsteve. Your insanity inspired me to actually put the image of the deck in Pixelmator and measure the widths along the front and back trucks. Got 8,79" for the front and 8,63" on the back. Seems like the 159s would be a very nice match with this deck. I guess I gotta pull the trigger on this one then as I've been yapping about it so much on here already.  ;D

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1893 on: January 14, 2017, 06:56:18 PM »
There's a real difference between 149s and 159s, I got the 59s to build a cruiser. They ended being on my regular street setup! I love em.

Thank you. You have helped me ease my mind a bit about my decision.

Oh and BMCsteve. Your insanity inspired me to actually put the image of the deck in Pixelmator and measure the widths along the front and back trucks. Got 8,79" for the front and 8,63" on the back. Seems like the 159s would be a very nice match with this deck. I guess I gotta pull the trigger on this one then as I've been yapping about it so much on here already.  ;D

Nice!  good call on the Pixelmator work.  post a pic of the setup once you get it together

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1894 on: January 14, 2017, 08:24:38 PM »
Hello fellow truck nerds. Now I know that I am kind of breaking thread etiquette by posting about a sale in this thread, but if any of you like old Indy stuff I don't think anyone will mind(I apologize if anyone is bothered by me posting this here)
I'm selling my collection of Indy stage 7 and stage 8 size 146 8.25's. I started a thread in the classifieds so go ahead and check that out any info and my ebay link is there.
Like I said I'm sorry if it is distasteful to post this here, but I've read on the forum many times people saying that they'd love to have some older stage Indy's. Well now is the chance. Thank you all very much for any interest.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1895 on: January 16, 2017, 09:05:14 AM »
Anybody know when the Team Hollows will be available?
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1896 on: January 16, 2017, 09:46:17 AM »
Anybody know when the Team Hollows will be available?

They're out.  Socal and tactics have them

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1897 on: January 16, 2017, 02:39:27 PM »
Not going to buy from an online shop
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1898 on: January 16, 2017, 03:04:39 PM »
Not going to buy from an online shop
Then they are going to be out for you until your local shop stocks them.

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« Reply #1899 on: January 16, 2017, 03:07:23 PM »
Not going to buy from an online shop
Then they are going to be out for you until your local shop stocks them.
Seriously, ask your shop then, holier than thou fuck.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1900 on: January 16, 2017, 03:18:55 PM »
you can get them on sale for $40 bucks on tactics if you are willing to sell your soul to the devil

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1901 on: January 16, 2017, 03:31:18 PM »
Not going to buy from an online shop
Then they are going to be out for you until your local shop stocks them.

Ill order from a legit shop that has a website
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1902 on: January 16, 2017, 03:38:11 PM »
Not going to buy from an online shop
Then they are going to be out for you until your local shop stocks them.

Ill order from a legit shop that has a website

But isn't a legit shops website (that sells things) technically an online shop?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1903 on: January 16, 2017, 03:42:22 PM »
Not going to buy from an online shop
Then they are going to be out for you until your local shop stocks them.

Ill order from a legit shop that has a website

But isn't a legit shops website (that sells things) technically an online shop?

Double jeopardy

What is an online skate shop?
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1904 on: January 16, 2017, 03:42:55 PM »
Not going to buy from an online shop
Then they are going to be out for you until your local shop stocks them.

Ill order from a legit shop that has a website

But isn't a legit shops website (that sells things) technically an online shop?

Double jeopardy

What is an online skate shop?

I don't know.  :)

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1905 on: January 16, 2017, 04:18:35 PM »
Not going to buy from an online shop
Then they are going to be out for you until your local shop stocks them.

Ill order from a legit shop that has a website

But isn't a legit shops website (that sells things) technically an online shop?

Double jeopardy

What is an online skate shop?

I don't know.  :)

SoCal is a legit skateshop...
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1906 on: January 16, 2017, 05:01:30 PM »
This is so awkward.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1907 on: January 17, 2017, 09:15:01 AM »
This is so awkward.
It's only awkward if someone points it out. That's how it works, right?
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1908 on: January 17, 2017, 10:55:21 AM »
SoCal

SW

Tactics

Active (kind of)

Are all legit brick and mortar shops with huge online presence...hell I've driven to Socal (2hrs) just because of their selection and I'm in L.A. and can easily hit up my local (5min away), Vans (ugh), Active (great selection for a non-core shop and all everyone working there skates), Kayo, Primitive, Diamond, all local.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1909 on: January 17, 2017, 11:23:55 AM »
Last I was passing by the Kayo store it's now k.o.

kinda bummed I didn't get the team hollows on sale when they were on whatever site had the sale

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1910 on: January 18, 2017, 05:49:26 AM »
So I just found my complete old set of bones mediums. I've always ridden no bottom washer and loved it but haven't tried bones on stage 11s yet.

No bottom washer or yes because otherwise it'll fuck with the stage 11s geo?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1911 on: January 18, 2017, 07:37:54 AM »
So I just found my complete old set of bones mediums. I've always ridden no bottom washer and loved it but haven't tried bones on stage 11s yet.

No bottom washer or yes because otherwise it'll fuck with the stage 11s geo?

no bottom washer is fine on Stage 11s... but I gotta tell ya, Im a recent (within last year) convert to the aftermarket Indy bushings from years upon years of bones med, and the aftermarkets feel worlds better. 
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1912 on: January 18, 2017, 07:59:51 AM »
So I just found my complete old set of bones mediums. I've always ridden no bottom washer and loved it but haven't tried bones on stage 11s yet.

No bottom washer or yes because otherwise it'll fuck with the stage 11s geo?

no bottom washer is fine on Stage 11s... but I gotta tell ya, Im a recent (within last year) convert to the aftermarket Indy bushings from years upon years of bones med, and the aftermarkets feel worlds better. 
I bought a pair just as the cold weather started hitting and they are pretty good. I'm hoping once it goes above 60 fahrenheit they'll become even softer.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1913 on: January 18, 2017, 09:13:20 AM »
So I just found my complete old set of bones mediums. I've always ridden no bottom washer and loved it but haven't tried bones on stage 11s yet.

No bottom washer or yes because otherwise it'll fuck with the stage 11s geo?

no bottom washer is fine on Stage 11s... but I gotta tell ya, Im a recent (within last year) convert to the aftermarket Indy bushings from years upon years of bones med, and the aftermarkets feel worlds better. 
Really? On my last set of Indys they were pretty good but I've tried the Indy hard, medium, and every combo of the two and nothing felt quite right. Then when I put in the Bones it was like I was I came back home. It was exactly what I had been looking for.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1914 on: January 18, 2017, 07:00:49 PM »
I put a set of Bones Mediums in my Thunder 149s, blew the tops out in one 2-1/2hr. session. They fell apart, second time its happened to me this year. I'm going back to stock Thunder clear yellow or white.

I found an old set of red 88a Indy bushings & they feel harder than the stock Thunder clear yellow 90a. Weird, but now I'm back to the stock Thunder parts.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1915 on: January 18, 2017, 10:46:05 PM »
I put a set of Bones Mediums in my Thunder 149s, blew the tops out in one 2-1/2hr. session. They fell apart, second time its happened to me this year. I'm going back to stock Thunder clear yellow or white.

I found an old set of red 88a Indy bushings & they feel harder than the stock Thunder clear yellow 90a. Weird, but now I'm back to the stock Thunder parts.
Do you use a top washer? The last  Time I used bones was in a set of thunder 149's without a bottom washer and they still look brand-new other than being dirty.




Sanyway, I found that set of bones mediums and now I'm back on bones. It's like coming home after a long day at work.

I have no doubt that most people like Indys with Indy bushings way more but even loose the medium ones seemed to turn a bit more sloppy than I'd prefer.

I've always used only a top washer with bones but that leaves too much of the kingpin exposed for my liking with my current set of Indys. However with a bottom washer I can leave the nut flush and it's perfect. Looser than I've ever ridden before but the bones have a nice, quick rebound compared to my Indys and I've found it's a lot funner to ride looser trucks.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1916 on: January 19, 2017, 01:57:04 AM »
Truck enthusiasts, don't know if any of you have seen this but looks like Thunder is working on something for Ishod


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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1917 on: January 19, 2017, 02:04:57 AM »
Truck enthusiasts, don't know if any of you have seen this but looks like Thunder is working on something for Ishod


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morfordmedia @brandon.starr test trucks for Ishod

Dang are they imprinting 147 on the wheel side like the 149ers now ?

Yeah I saw the exact same thing when I saw the clip of Frank's front board and kept pausing when he showed the trucks cause I thought is that a different baseplate or did he slide them like that??

It was really wigging me out and now we got confirmation my eyes weren't fooling me. I'm sure it's a new baseplate to help with nose and tail slides cause that one thread about thunders being good for nose and tail slides was a true thing, I noticed the wheels stick out more than the baseplate on thunders and it does make slides a little trickier to lock into

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1918 on: January 19, 2017, 03:58:20 AM »
I put a set of Bones Mediums in my Thunder 149s, blew the tops out in one 2-1/2hr. session. They fell apart, second time its happened to me this year. I'm going back to stock Thunder clear yellow or white.

I found an old set of red 88a Indy bushings & they feel harder than the stock Thunder clear yellow 90a. Weird, but now I'm back to the stock Thunder parts.
Do you use a top washer? The last  Time I used bones was in a set of thunder 149's without a bottom washer and they still look brand-new other than being dirty.


Yes, I had on the bottom washer and theBones flat top washer. The hey felt great until they were mushed out.

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« Reply #1919 on: January 19, 2017, 07:01:06 AM »
Truck enthusiasts, don't know if any of you have seen this but looks like Thunder is working on something for Ishod


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morfordmedia @brandon.starr test trucks for Ishod

Someone should post this in the "are thunders good for tail slides?" thread.  Stoked to see they are doing that now