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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1920 on: January 19, 2017, 07:40:34 AM »
Truck enthusiasts, don't know if any of you have seen this but looks like Thunder is working on something for Ishod


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morfordmedia @brandon.starr test trucks for Ishod

Dang are they imprinting 147 on the wheel side like the 149ers now ?

Yeah I saw the exact same thing when I saw the clip of Frank's front board and kept pausing when he showed the trucks cause I thought is that a different baseplate or did he slide them like that??

It was really wigging me out and now we got confirmation my eyes weren't fooling me. I'm sure it's a new baseplate to help with nose and tail slides cause that one thread about thunders being good for nose and tail slides was a true thing, I noticed the wheels stick out more than the baseplate on thunders and it does make slides a little trickier to lock into

Who'd a thought

would a new 147 be the same height as the 149ii?
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1921 on: January 23, 2017, 09:40:03 AM »

 8)
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1922 on: January 23, 2017, 09:55:08 AM »
^can't believe that, not the same geometry

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« Reply #1923 on: January 23, 2017, 10:00:49 AM »
^can't believe that, not the same geometry

Turns way better than the thunder baseplate because the indy pivot cup is a little bigger and gives it more room to travel. It also makes the truck wobble a little even when it isn't super loose which makes it feel more responsive. Try it for yourself if you don't believe me.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1924 on: January 23, 2017, 10:17:20 AM »
^can't believe that, not the same geometry

Turns way better than the thunder baseplate because the indy pivot cup is a little bigger and gives it more room to travel. It also makes the truck wobble a little even when it isn't super loose which makes it feel more responsive. Try it for yourself if you don't believe me.
i don't want wobbling in my trucks, but to each his thing...
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1925 on: January 23, 2017, 10:48:01 AM »
So now that we're mixing trucks, when should we open the can of worms that is...

mixing the top/bottom bushing durometers?

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« Reply #1926 on: January 23, 2017, 11:15:12 AM »
I have a set of theeve titanium kingpins I got years ago but never used. I wanna try them on my thunder titaniums but that hollow kingpin/forged baseplate combo is a bitch. Does putting the baseplate in the oven for 20 minutes on 500 really work? My main trucks are polished but I do have an extra set of forged base plates in blue I might experiment with if I don't have to worry about the paint in the oven

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1927 on: January 23, 2017, 11:31:13 AM »
paint is going to create toxic smokes i think, harder than dog drugs
if by polished you mean raw, it will work, don't hesitate to put them back in the oven if it needs way too much hammer hits, and be careful, shit is hot !

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1928 on: January 23, 2017, 04:53:34 PM »
I have a set of theeve titanium kingpins I got years ago but never used. I wanna try them on my thunder titaniums but that hollow kingpin/forged baseplate combo is a bitch. Does putting the baseplate in the oven for 20 minutes on 500 really work? My main trucks are polished but I do have an extra set of forged base plates in blue I might experiment with if I don't have to worry about the paint in the oven

They won't fit (I've tried), the spines are different - they'd fit in standard cast plates.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1929 on: January 23, 2017, 05:35:37 PM »
I have a set of theeve titanium kingpins I got years ago but never used. I wanna try them on my thunder titaniums but that hollow kingpin/forged baseplate combo is a bitch. Does putting the baseplate in the oven for 20 minutes on 500 really work? My main trucks are polished but I do have an extra set of forged base plates in blue I might experiment with if I don't have to worry about the paint in the oven

They won't fit (I've tried), the spines are different - they'd fit in standard cast plates.

Thanks for saving me the hassle . I'll have to find some cast plates in the classifieds or ebay whenever I feel like experimenting

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1930 on: January 23, 2017, 06:14:31 PM »
So now that we're mixing trucks, when should we open the can of worms that is...

mixing the top/bottom bushing durometers?

i've seen some guys run a bones soft/med combo. not sure if it was on here but it's already happening out there somewhere

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« Reply #1931 on: January 23, 2017, 08:50:40 PM »
I have Thunder-Indy's set up on my cruiser board. Agree about the pivot cup. I took out the bottom washers too--nice and wobbly now.
The Indy baseplates make them a little higher too, which is nice. But I'm using risers, so it doesn't really matter anyway.

Pretty much just trying to salvage these Thunders that I bought a couple months ago. I went from kinda liking them, to hating them, to switching back to Indy Indy's, in just a few weeks. They're alright for cruising around though. Kind of like that quick, carvy response going down the sidewalk.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1932 on: January 24, 2017, 01:53:31 AM »
So now that we're mixing trucks, when should we open the can of worms that is...

mixing the top/bottom bushing durometers?

i've seen some guys run a bones soft/med combo. not sure if it was on here but it's already happening out there somewhere

aha ive been thinking about this but dont wanna try since i like my stuff equal and balanced(same tightness on front and back trucks and same bushing duros)

cause i heard, i dont remember from here or somewhere else, that the top bushing(smaller) is for stability and rebound while the bottom(bigger bushing) is for turn-ability/response ? so it would make some sort of sense to have say a medium top and a soft bottom for a nice responding truck i would say
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1933 on: January 24, 2017, 02:06:11 AM »
I tried a whole bunch of combos on my Aces last summer:
Ace bushings
Krux bushings
Bones mediums
Bones hards

and I think almost if not all combos you can make with those. Ended up going with Ace bottom and Bones medium top. Very deep and easy turns and still stable. I absolutely love it. Best of both worlds. No wheelbite either. All other combos were wonky in one way or another.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1934 on: January 24, 2017, 08:14:11 AM »
I tried a whole bunch of combos on my Aces last summer:
Ace bushings
Krux bushings
Bones mediums
Bones hards

and I think almost if not all combos you can make with those. Ended up going with Ace bottom and Bones medium top. Very deep and easy turns and still stable. I absolutely love it. Best of both worlds. No wheelbite either. All other combos were wonky in one way or another.

Ohh. I might have to try that. Thanks for the tip.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1935 on: January 24, 2017, 03:36:48 PM »
So now that we're mixing trucks, when should we open the can of worms that is...

mixing the top/bottom bushing durometers?

i've seen some guys run a bones soft/med combo. not sure if it was on here but it's already happening out there somewhere

aha ive been thinking about this but dont wanna try since i like my stuff equal and balanced(same tightness on front and back trucks and same
bushing duros)

cause i heard, i dont remember from here or somewhere else, that the top bushing(smaller) is for stability and rebound while the bottom(bigger bushing) is for turn-ability/response ? so it would make some sort of sense to have say a medium top and a soft bottom for a nice responding truck i would say

I thought bones bushings were all one height. One of my setups is bones soft roadside and medium deck side on the front and back because even under my scrawny ass the bones soft will blow out super easy on the deck side.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1936 on: January 24, 2017, 04:16:13 PM »
Thindy. Krace. Theeunder. Destruture. Indulwing. Vensor.

This thread has gone off the rails (pun intended)

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1937 on: January 24, 2017, 09:03:02 PM »
i believe in Thunducto low ;D

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1938 on: January 24, 2017, 09:24:41 PM »
I've seen youness amrani do venture baseplates with thunder hangars. I wonder how that works? A stiffer thunder ?
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1939 on: January 25, 2017, 05:01:52 AM »
I tried a whole bunch of combos on my Aces last summer:
Ace bushings
Krux bushings
Bones mediums
Bones hards

and I think almost if not all combos you can make with those. Ended up going with Ace bottom and Bones medium top. Very deep and easy turns and still stable. I absolutely love it. Best of both worlds. No wheelbite either. All other combos were wonky in one way or another.

Ohh. I might have to try that. Thanks for the tip.

What was wrong with krux bushings ?
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1940 on: January 25, 2017, 06:12:18 AM »
I tried a whole bunch of combos on my Aces last summer:
Ace bushings
Krux bushings
Bones mediums
Bones hards

and I think almost if not all combos you can make with those. Ended up going with Ace bottom and Bones medium top. Very deep and easy turns and still stable. I absolutely love it. Best of both worlds. No wheelbite either. All other combos were wonky in one way or another.

Ohh. I might have to try that. Thanks for the tip.

What was wrong with krux bushings ?

Unstable and too soft for my taste.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1941 on: January 25, 2017, 09:39:27 AM »
I'm a complete noob with bushings - only ever rode stock Indy's and never switched the bushings out . I'd like to try out some blue doh dohs (88a) - what kind of washers do I need for em (barrel / cylinder) ? My back truck bottom washer is bashed and curving up , almost cupping the bushing . Also , I read all over about probably having to shave one of the bushings down with the Indy/Dohdoh combo . Any insight/help would be greatly appreciated , wanted to cop the bushings and washers to complete my new setup this weekend .
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1942 on: January 25, 2017, 09:54:42 AM »
I'm a complete noob with bushings - only ever rode stock Indy's and never switched the bushings out . I'd like to try out some blue doh dohs (88a) - what kind of washers do I need for em (barrel / conical) ? My back truck bottom washer is bashed and curving up , almost cupping the bushing . Also , I read all over about probably having to shave one of the bushings down with the Indy/Dohdoh combo . Any insight/help would be greatly appreciated , wanted to cop the bushings and washers to complete my new setup this weekend .
I'm sure others will say the same, but here, washers included.
http://www.tactics.com/independent/genuine-standard-cylinder-cushions-2-truck-set/red-soft
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1943 on: January 25, 2017, 10:04:39 AM »
I'm a complete noob with bushings - only ever rode stock Indy's and never switched the bushings out . I'd like to try out some blue doh dohs (88a) - what kind of washers do I need for em (barrel / conical) ? My back truck bottom washer is bashed and curving up , almost cupping the bushing . Also , I read all over about probably having to shave one of the bushings down with the Indy/Dohdoh combo . Any insight/help would be greatly appreciated , wanted to cop the bushings and washers to complete my new setup this weekend .
I'm sure others will say the same, but here, washers included.
http://www.tactics.com/independent/genuine-standard-cylinder-cushions-2-truck-set/red-soft

Ahhhh perfect dude thx so much , problem solved . I owe you 1

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« Reply #1944 on: January 25, 2017, 10:45:45 AM »
After filing down my kingpin working on smith grinds today, I've decided I want try those krux downlow kingpins with my Thunder Ti's. Did a google search and saw that Xen actually had a similar setup in the past, so for him and/or anyone else who's used them with thunders, do you have to use lower aftermarket bushings or were the stock ones fine with the lower kingpin? I'd rather not break in new bushings if I don't have to

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« Reply #1945 on: January 25, 2017, 12:27:21 PM »
After filing down my kingpin working on smith grinds today, I've decided I want try those krux downlow kingpins with my Thunder Ti's. Did a google search and saw that Xen actually had a similar setup in the past, so for him and/or anyone else who's used them with thunders, do you have to use lower aftermarket bushings or were the stock ones fine with the lower kingpin? I'd rather not break in new bushings if I don't have to

word of advice, the krux kingpin will work with the cast Thunder plates but not the forged.  the cavity on the bottom isnt deep enough for the kingpin nut and it sticks out.  every so slightly but enough.  i learned this the hard way haha
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« Reply #1946 on: January 25, 2017, 09:41:30 PM »
Changed the busted bones bushings in my indys after over a year, put conical orange aftermarket indy bushings and minilogo pivot cups. i also sanded down the top bushing a little. they turn great but different from before.
so now my real question: how are riptide pivot cups in indys? do they also fit in thunders?

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« Reply #1947 on: January 25, 2017, 11:33:12 PM »
After filing down my kingpin working on smith grinds today, I've decided I want try those krux downlow kingpins with my Thunder Ti's. Did a google search and saw that Xen actually had a similar setup in the past, so for him and/or anyone else who's used them with thunders, do you have to use lower aftermarket bushings or were the stock ones fine with the lower kingpin? I'd rather not break in new bushings if I don't have to

word of advice, the krux kingpin will work with the cast Thunder plates but not the forged.  the cavity on the bottom isnt deep enough for the kingpin nut and it sticks out.  every so slightly but enough.  i learned this the hard way haha

mmm, I had a similar problem when trying to install hex heads on some older venture baseplates. I just took a steel file to the edges and it ended up fitting after a few minutes of stoking. I'm sure there's a chance it would do with the nut. 

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« Reply #1948 on: January 26, 2017, 02:33:11 AM »
I tried a whole bunch of combos on my Aces last summer:
Ace bushings
Krux bushings
Bones mediums
Bones hards

and I think almost if not all combos you can make with those. Ended up going with Ace bottom and Bones medium top. Very deep and easy turns and still stable. I absolutely love it. Best of both worlds. No wheelbite either. All other combos were wonky in one way or another.

Ohh. I might have to try that. Thanks for the tip.

What was wrong with krux bushings ?

Unstable and too soft for my taste.

I was not comfortable with the wobble at first, but now I'm used to it and I find it very fun to skate.
Possibilities are everywhere, search and enjoy.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1949 on: January 26, 2017, 09:31:39 AM »
I tried a whole bunch of combos on my Aces last summer:
Ace bushings
Krux bushings
Bones mediums
Bones hards

and I think almost if not all combos you can make with those. Ended up going with Ace bottom and Bones medium top. Very deep and easy turns and still stable. I absolutely love it. Best of both worlds. No wheelbite either. All other combos were wonky in one way or another.

Ohh. I might have to try that. Thanks for the tip.

What was wrong with krux bushings ?

Unstable and too soft for my taste.

I was not comfortable with the wobble at first, but now I'm used to it and I find it very fun to skate.

I've never found wobble attractive myself. Also I suck so bad that I want to avoid wheelbite the best I can and with the Krux bushings I'd get wheelbite too easily. It just wasn't what I'm into at all. I know having trucks as loose as possible is something many ppl aim for, but not me. I like stability, but still getting a proper deep turn when I want and avoiding wheelbite. For that the Ace 44s with Ace bottom and Bones medium top bushings seem like the best solution for me. Almost as stable as Indy 149s with Bones hards, much better turn and no wheelbite, which was still a constant issue with the Indys if I landed wrong enough (which I seems to do a lot  ;))

But like I've said before. To each their own. Also I'm somewhat tall and not exactly light. I can't rock soft bushings. I need something beefier.  :)
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